It's simply not true to say that Shay locomotives were not used at all for "hauling passengers." It's true they wouldn't be used to carry passengers from city to city but they were used extensively to carry passengers -- usually tourists -- in mountain regions all around the world. Look up "Muir Woods Railway" on Wikipedia for one of countless examples.
I am with the Little River Railroad & Lumber Company in Townsend, Tennessee. Shay's were used for logging and mining. They seldom hauled passengers. Look up the museum on the Internet. Where the logging took place is today The Great Smoky Mountain National Park.
I searched and found this video. I'm watching one Shay's Locomotive now on a PBS TV show called California Live which is just outside of Yosemite. Sugar Pine Lumber company old railroad. 84 tons, narrow gage. Decommissioned from logging in 1933, now a tourst attraction laid in virgin forest land about 4 miles. It's the #10. 12 wheel drive. Original operated off Yosemite mountain. 500 gallons of water per mile, a thursty iron horse.
where in the hell did this f-----g idiot cockroach 2008 come from, must have fell out of his mother as she was standing at the picking up gay dude and he's brain dead
It was a great technical advance over "rod" locomotives. I'm surprised it didn't completely replace them after Shay's patents expired. But by then, diesel engines had been developed
I live in Harbor Springs Michigan where Mr.Shay lived and worked. His unique brick hexagonal house still stands, but little or no effort seems evident to memorialize him at all. He designed and built a steam yacht of riveted steel with a very unusual and progressive hull form that until a few years ago lain on its side rusting in a nearby inlet. This Town was a little jewel that has been taken over by greedy developers looking to cash in and little else matters. I hate them.
I live in Harbor Springs Michigan where Mr.Shay lived and worked. His unique brick hexagonal house still stands, but little or no effort seems evident to memorialize him at all. He designed and built a steam yacht of riveted steel with a very unusual and progressive hull form that until a few years ago lain on its side rusting in a nearby inlet. This Town was a little jewel that has been taken over by greedy developers looking to cash in and little else matters. I hate them. Nice locomotive.
I live in Harbor Springs Michigan where Mr.Shay lived and worked. His unique brick hexagonal house still stands, but little or no effort seems evident to memorialize him at all. He designed and built a steam yacht of riveted steel with a very unusual and progressive hull form that until a few years ago lain on its side rusting in a nearby inlet. This Town was a little jewel that has been taken over by greedy developers looking to cash in and little else matters. I hate them. Nice locomotive.
I live in Harbor Springs Michigan where Mr.Shay lived and worked. His unique brick hexagonal house still stands, but little or no effort seems evident to memorialize him at all. He designed and built a steam yacht of riveted steel with a very unusual and progressive hull form that until a few years ago lain on its side rusting in a nearby inlet. This Town was a little jewel that has been taken over by greedy developers looking to cash in and little else matters. I hate them. Nice locomotive.
The irony of the description actually made me laugh; shays were designed for the exact opposite of everything listed: steep grades, tight curves, and slow speeds, often on ridiculously rough track. They had a fairly limited range too, and were often equipped with siphon hoses to fill-up the tender from nearby streams and rivers.
You had better keep a close watch on that steaming pile of junk iron.
The parts from that machine can be removed quickly & sold for COLD HARD CASH with NO QUESTIONS ASKED!
If someone needs cash fast, a steam locomotive can make a good resource for parts which can be quickly removed & sold for cash, VERY FAST & their will be NO QUESTIONS ASKED!
Bells, whistles, gauges, boiler over pressure pop off valves, headlights, marker lights, number boards, builder's plate, grab irons, ect. . . .
@tweetsie12190fan Sure! But history belongs between the pages of a history book! These junkers have been photographed, filmed & documented. There is nothing else to them except the materials within them can be used to make new products.
to the scrapper! Historical preservation is adequate between the pages of a history book. The materials in steam locomotives can be used to produce new useful products.
@tweetsie12190fan If the machines is not revenue generating to the historical society or the historical preservation group, send it to the scrap yard for uttingc apart & melting. To save them for historical reasons which are not profitable is justification to send them to the junk pile!
That is where my crews come in & cut them apart & my crew earns their money to support their families! That is the American Way. Always tur ing old materials j to new products.
@Cockroach2008 But, in destroying our past models of vehicles, we're also destroying our historical diversity.. True, they don't serve any monetary purposes, but to scrap a locomotive is to scrap a bit of our past.
The sentimental value of these old models of engines easily outweigh any value that could be obtained by reusing the materials used to construct them.
@Mattzazami This garbage is already for destruction. Destroying historical diversity?Are you just making up non-sense to try & justify your cause to someone? That statement is absurd! Historical diversity is preserved between the pages of history books. This junk is worth money when people sell them off in parts or send the materials for scrap. Parts bring in nice sums of CASH! NO QUESTIONS! Or a graffiti canvas! Beautiful graffitti paint jobs on steam locomotives!
Bet your sorry ass doesn't have the courage to go to Cass WV and say that or better yet back at the Train Festival 2009 in Owosso Mich. You'd have been lynched. You're a fuckin retard!!
@janedoe1024 I know about your teakettle toy train in Cass. I have told many people what a junk pile they run & how it is ready for the induction furnace to melt it down. Missed that other event over a year ago. I would not go anyway unless the machine is ready to be junked so I can make a bid on this relic. It is time for it to be found only between the pages of a history book.
@coolcatevan9 I have been looking at your reply for a week now, and I don't understand. What is FU? Did you mistype something? Did you mean FOO? I just don't understand. Please explain!
gp40mc is absolutely correct. Why would you post wrong info on such a rare and important loco? Get your facts straight and don't make stupid guesses if you don't know. Do 3 minutes of research and you will find everything you needed to know about the Shay.
The description for this video is wrong. These locomotives were desinged for hauling log cars up very steep mountain grades. Not for hauling passengers. They are also one of the slowest locomotives that exist. Cool video but I suggest you correct the description because it's pretty much the opposite of what that locomotive is designed for.
@gp40mc Not only for logging, but also mining, and, for one east coast railroad, as a switcher. Now, is this one standard or narrow gauge? I couldn't tell. Nice seeing one!
Yes, these types of locomotives were built to haul logs, coal, and other resources in areas where the typical rod-driven locomotives which had trouble operating, such as mountains, valleys, and other areas where the track wasn't always level, straight, or even made of iron (wooden rails built out of logs). These locomotives travel very slowly, but they trade high speed for high torque and pulling ability on tracks that rod-driven locomotives cannot travel on.
The Heisler and Climax steam locomotives share similar traits with this one, the Shay. The Heisler uses a V-2 style engine to drive the front and rear trucks using a central drive shaft. The Climax uses a similar drive system, but it has two wheels connected to two pistons. The pistons drive the wheels like a normal locomotive, but the wheels don't touch the ground. Instead, they transfer their rotational energy into a gearbox under the locomotive, and the gearbox is connected to the driveshaft.
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applejak2000 7 months ago
You are taking this too serious. It's a tourist line. Let them pull a passenger car OK?
Trolleymoose 9 months ago
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Takes us back to the past dosen't it
Godzillafan541 10 months ago
thats the funniest caboose iv ever seen...
skybluedragonator 1 year ago
It is a nice shot of the running gear. Good video
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manuelaselma 1 year ago
It's simply not true to say that Shay locomotives were not used at all for "hauling passengers." It's true they wouldn't be used to carry passengers from city to city but they were used extensively to carry passengers -- usually tourists -- in mountain regions all around the world. Look up "Muir Woods Railway" on Wikipedia for one of countless examples.
raydot 1 year ago
I am with the Little River Railroad & Lumber Company in Townsend, Tennessee. Shay's were used for logging and mining. They seldom hauled passengers. Look up the museum on the Internet. Where the logging took place is today The Great Smoky Mountain National Park.
droid3913 1 year ago
I searched and found this video. I'm watching one Shay's Locomotive now on a PBS TV show called California Live which is just outside of Yosemite. Sugar Pine Lumber company old railroad. 84 tons, narrow gage. Decommissioned from logging in 1933, now a tourst attraction laid in virgin forest land about 4 miles. It's the #10. 12 wheel drive. Original operated off Yosemite mountain. 500 gallons of water per mile, a thursty iron horse.
I want one.
Next on my list.. Google patent search.
DudleyaSetchellii 1 year ago
where in the hell did this f-----g idiot cockroach 2008 come from, must have fell out of his mother as she was standing at the picking up gay dude and he's brain dead
sewallm60 1 year ago
It was a great technical advance over "rod" locomotives. I'm surprised it didn't completely replace them after Shay's patents expired. But by then, diesel engines had been developed
luridplanet 1 year ago
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I live in Harbor Springs Michigan where Mr.Shay lived and worked. His unique brick hexagonal house still stands, but little or no effort seems evident to memorialize him at all. He designed and built a steam yacht of riveted steel with a very unusual and progressive hull form that until a few years ago lain on its side rusting in a nearby inlet. This Town was a little jewel that has been taken over by greedy developers looking to cash in and little else matters. I hate them.
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I live in Harbor Springs Michigan where Mr.Shay lived and worked. His unique brick hexagonal house still stands, but little or no effort seems evident to memorialize him at all. He designed and built a steam yacht of riveted steel with a very unusual and progressive hull form that until a few years ago lain on its side rusting in a nearby inlet. This Town was a little jewel that has been taken over by greedy developers looking to cash in and little else matters. I hate them. Nice locomotive.
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I live in Harbor Springs Michigan where Mr.Shay lived and worked. His unique brick hexagonal house still stands, but little or no effort seems evident to memorialize him at all. He designed and built a steam yacht of riveted steel with a very unusual and progressive hull form that until a few years ago lain on its side rusting in a nearby inlet. This Town was a little jewel that has been taken over by greedy developers looking to cash in and little else matters. I hate them. Nice locomotive.
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I live in Harbor Springs Michigan where Mr.Shay lived and worked. His unique brick hexagonal house still stands, but little or no effort seems evident to memorialize him at all. He designed and built a steam yacht of riveted steel with a very unusual and progressive hull form that until a few years ago lain on its side rusting in a nearby inlet. This Town was a little jewel that has been taken over by greedy developers looking to cash in and little else matters. I hate them. Nice locomotive.
jamesandrew2000 1 year ago
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jamesandrew2000 1 year ago
The irony of the description actually made me laugh; shays were designed for the exact opposite of everything listed: steep grades, tight curves, and slow speeds, often on ridiculously rough track. They had a fairly limited range too, and were often equipped with siphon hoses to fill-up the tender from nearby streams and rivers.
SR722 1 year ago
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hate steam
jathom26 2 years ago
@jathom26 Why?
Classicalguy12 2 years ago
how can u hate steam
TheJuggalohomie4life 1 year ago
It is fantastic!
Locomotive with vertical triple expansion machine! All-wheel transmission including all-wheel coal-tender!
Best regards from Belgrade, Serbia!
sbd650 2 years ago
hahah shay carl?! you what you what?!
joshuareamazing 2 years ago
you got the descriction wrong. look up shay on the internet or in wiki
durangoandsilverton 2 years ago 6
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Another junker, ready for the scrapper's torch!
Cockroach2008 2 years ago
@Cockroach2008 if you dislike steam so much, then why do you watch and comment on nearly every steam locomotive video on YouTube?
Classicalguy12 2 years ago
FU cockroach2008
SPARE THE STEAMERS
coolcatevan9 1 year ago
Thank you for the very flattering & complimentary suggestion!
I will take it under advisement.
Nahhhh!
Junk all the remaining steam locomotives!
If people need some quick cash, I advise that parts from steam locomotives can be quickly removed & sold with NO QUESTIONS ASKED!
The bell, whistle, gauges, boiler over pressure pop off valves, headlights, marker lights, number boards, builder's plate, hoses, pipes, grab irons, boiler doors, valves, ect. . . .
There is much there for the taking!
Cockroach2008 1 year ago
Im not falling for your scheme. I am refurbishing steam!
coolcatevan9 1 year ago
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You had better keep a close watch on that steaming pile of junk iron.
The parts from that machine can be removed quickly & sold for COLD HARD CASH with NO QUESTIONS ASKED!
If someone needs cash fast, a steam locomotive can make a good resource for parts which can be quickly removed & sold for cash, VERY FAST & their will be NO QUESTIONS ASKED!
Bells, whistles, gauges, boiler over pressure pop off valves, headlights, marker lights, number boards, builder's plate, grab irons, ect. . . .
Cockroach2008 1 year ago
@Cockroach2008 dont you care about history?
tweetsie12190fan 1 year ago
@tweetsie12190fan Sure! But history belongs between the pages of a history book! These junkers have been photographed, filmed & documented. There is nothing else to them except the materials within them can be used to make new products.
Junk all the remaining steam locomotives.
Cockroach2008 1 year ago
@Cockroach2008 so.. what your saying all the cars trains boats and airplains of yesterday aka 24hours ago shuld be scraped
tweetsie12190fan 1 year ago
@tweetsie12190fan If it no longer serves, it goes
to the scrapper! Historical preservation is adequate between the pages of a history book. The materials in steam locomotives can be used to produce new useful products.
Cockroach2008 1 year ago
@Cockroach2008 so what your saying is all the history museams that have cars boattrains and airoplains shuld be put out of bisniss.
tweetsie12190fan 1 year ago
@tweetsie12190fan If the machines is not revenue generating to the historical society or the historical preservation group, send it to the scrap yard for uttingc apart & melting. To save them for historical reasons which are not profitable is justification to send them to the junk pile!
That is where my crews come in & cut them apart & my crew earns their money to support their families! That is the American Way. Always tur ing old materials j to new products.
Cockroach2008 1 year ago
@Cockroach2008 But, in destroying our past models of vehicles, we're also destroying our historical diversity.. True, they don't serve any monetary purposes, but to scrap a locomotive is to scrap a bit of our past.
The sentimental value of these old models of engines easily outweigh any value that could be obtained by reusing the materials used to construct them.
Mattzazami 1 year ago
@Mattzazami This garbage is already for destruction. Destroying historical diversity?Are you just making up non-sense to try & justify your cause to someone? That statement is absurd! Historical diversity is preserved between the pages of history books. This junk is worth money when people sell them off in parts or send the materials for scrap. Parts bring in nice sums of CASH! NO QUESTIONS! Or a graffiti canvas! Beautiful graffitti paint jobs on steam locomotives!
Cockroach2008 1 year ago
@Cockroach2008
Bet your sorry ass doesn't have the courage to go to Cass WV and say that or better yet back at the Train Festival 2009 in Owosso Mich. You'd have been lynched. You're a fuckin retard!!
janedoe1024 1 year ago
@janedoe1024 I know about your teakettle toy train in Cass. I have told many people what a junk pile they run & how it is ready for the induction furnace to melt it down. Missed that other event over a year ago. I would not go anyway unless the machine is ready to be junked so I can make a bid on this relic. It is time for it to be found only between the pages of a history book.
Junk the remaining steam locomotives!
Cockroach2008 1 year ago
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@Cockroach2008
Your screen name says it all !
janedoe1024 1 year ago
@Cockroach2008 This is actually revenue generating as it is providing rides to museum patrons who PAY admission...which isn't cheap there either.
Also, this is locomotive is in Canada, so as far as keeping things the "american way" I'm afraid you're out of your element here.
I know you're just trying to piss off some of the train nuts on here and you're doing it but get your facts straight.
gingeypoo 1 year ago
@gingeypoo I know what is going on. It is getting more & more expensive. Tourist activity is off somewhat & expenses are outpacing income.
It won't be long! Parts will be stolen, graffiti painted & off to the scrap yard for cutting apart & sent off for melting.
Good riddance! Junk all the remaining steam locomotives!
Cockroach2008 1 year ago
@coolcatevan9 I have been looking at your reply for a week now, and I don't understand. What is FU? Did you mistype something? Did you mean FOO? I just don't understand. Please explain!
Cockroach2008 1 year ago
Great locomotive!
capefearnc 2 years ago
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largepod 2 years ago
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THIS ISN'T SHAY CARL!!!!!!!!!!!!! boooooooo!
StevieStickman 2 years ago
yeah, the shay was used for power on logging railroads or railroads with steep grades and sharp turns. they are SLOW but powerful.
203lindy 2 years ago 5
gp40mc is absolutely correct. Why would you post wrong info on such a rare and important loco? Get your facts straight and don't make stupid guesses if you don't know. Do 3 minutes of research and you will find everything you needed to know about the Shay.
USFED645 2 years ago 9
The description for this video is wrong. These locomotives were desinged for hauling log cars up very steep mountain grades. Not for hauling passengers. They are also one of the slowest locomotives that exist. Cool video but I suggest you correct the description because it's pretty much the opposite of what that locomotive is designed for.
gp40mc 2 years ago 10
@gp40mc Not only for logging, but also mining, and, for one east coast railroad, as a switcher. Now, is this one standard or narrow gauge? I couldn't tell. Nice seeing one!
mbabist01 2 years ago
looks to be standard gauge
gp40mc 2 years ago
You know the shay was made to go up steep hills around sharp curves and run on temporarry track
sticklets87 2 years ago 5
not to mention a very smooth take off
cumminsturbofan101 3 years ago
very very innovative at the time and still innovative today as nobody else has tried to replicate the design
cumminsturbofan101 3 years ago
Actually the Willamette Iron and Steel works of Oregon did a pretty good job of just that ;)
hollywood1340 3 years ago
my bad i wasn't aware of that :) but either way u cut it it is still very innovative
cumminsturbofan101 3 years ago
isn't this an engine wich can go up steep hills with heavy loads? andcan go through very tight curves??
Gotthard68 3 years ago
Yes, these types of locomotives were built to haul logs, coal, and other resources in areas where the typical rod-driven locomotives which had trouble operating, such as mountains, valleys, and other areas where the track wasn't always level, straight, or even made of iron (wooden rails built out of logs). These locomotives travel very slowly, but they trade high speed for high torque and pulling ability on tracks that rod-driven locomotives cannot travel on.
DeltaHL2 3 years ago 3
The Heisler and Climax steam locomotives share similar traits with this one, the Shay. The Heisler uses a V-2 style engine to drive the front and rear trucks using a central drive shaft. The Climax uses a similar drive system, but it has two wheels connected to two pistons. The pistons drive the wheels like a normal locomotive, but the wheels don't touch the ground. Instead, they transfer their rotational energy into a gearbox under the locomotive, and the gearbox is connected to the driveshaft.
DeltaHL2 3 years ago 2