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  • Speed, technic, no feel for the piece. Waist of space. He probably had a little talent but good connections.

  • Are there REALLY 27 dislikes? Wow...stupid stupid stupid

  • Outstanding.

  • Naw, he's just playing Bach, who's s zesty" composer. (He did have 17 kids, you know!). He holds the violin so oddly forward - that is what intrigues me. Bach is very "zesty" for pianists and harpsichordists as well. Fun to play!

  • This is a very "zesty" video. =p

  • this is a piece that I have listened to more than 1000 times, more than 20 versions, and Milstein's version is always the best.

  • Simplistic?

    Mozart: too complicated for adults, too simple for children.

    Yep.

    Bach too.

  • this is much better than vanessa mae's, and i think she's amazing.

  • This video went viral on Pretoria

  • @bhowe007 --Lol! Hey, me too!

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  • 26 dislikes? Jeesh...go back to Occupying Wall Street.

  • @MiloArc: I actually know of many people who enjoy Bach AND support stronger regulations of private multinational financial institutions.

  • @brandon71085 ---I'm so glad you do!

  • @brandon71085 haha well said

  • ONE of the bests, but not the one, check it /watch?v=oPfZVflJdp0 !! John Williams, the man who sold his feelings for skills!

  • Amazing!!

  • AMAZING!!! Best version ever, I love Bach, and I love this piece so much... it is just AWSOME! Like like like!! :)

  • Too dry. Try Grumiaux instead.

  • @ivanoschen ---Grumiaux's interpretation is quite awesome!

  • If someone set an orgasm to music it would sound something like this

  • Just listened to Van. Mae's version. She sounds like a premature ejacuation when she slows down on some of the passages.

  • @daniel0731ex i know this piece. i've played violin for 14 years. in actual sheet music which bach wrote, there should be slow downs on those passages which vanessa does. even though she is far lower skill player than this guy, she plays exactly as it should be played with pauses. If i were you, i'd learn first and then talk. just saying.

  • @phosphore222 Touche

  • @phosphore222: Those ritardandos "slow downs" are actually editorial embellishments and are absent in many editions of this piece.

  • @brandon71085 though it remains in original bach composition

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  • I dont know what hes doing but its fucking amazing

  • 2:03!! 

  • booyah! i luv how he "takes a rest" at the end as if saying "THAT is a PARTITA for u!"

  • better version herd ever

  • AH HIS BOWING IS SO FUCKING GOOD.

  • OH Yes!!!!!!

  • 1:08-1:12 part is awesome!!

  • He looks much younger than when he made the renown recordings (CD only ) of all three sonatas and partitas. For which he won many awards, I think among them classical recording of the year. Does anyone know when this recording was originally made? The credits only give 1993 as the year it was "remastered." Thank you "sissy" for this glorious video.

  • Brilliant, nothing less. i also find this to be the best actual video of someone playing this piece. There's an amazing atmosphere as you just slowly zoom in on this proper but humble, suited up musician just standing there on the stage. Genuine in every respect!

  • Perfect dynamics, emphasizes notes without sacrificing his timing.

  • this guy has a much more refined tone that vanessa mae..

  • Oh. My. Gosh. <3

  • there is something about a piece that once you have played it you like it even more.

    i couldn't like this piece much more. :D

  • Carl Sagan's favourite piece of music.

  • @BigMasterTeek I was about to say that :P

  • @BigMasterTeek, Is that true? Now that you mention it, I did notice Bach played throughout the Cosmos series.. That's awesome. Carl Sagan and Bach are like peanut butter and jelly.

  • @stvexplos Yer you can check it out on the BBC site. Search for the radio 4 program "desert island disks" and you can search for him in their archives.

  • ahhhhhhh 8th grade!!!!!!

  • Where the hell is he?

  • @DinkleberryDelight He is in heaven, watching all the "best" singers fail and die and go to hell. <<

  • @AoifeStair Win.

  • @DinkleberryDelight Definitely.

  • Utterly divine! Genius!

  • bravo.

  • I think this is the best version, I am trying to convence my teacher to teach me this!

  • Milstein was FANTASTIC, no doubt about that! This piece is wonderful, but I like Nigel Kennedy's interpretation a bit more...

  • like a boss. this shit is really hard to do :| 100+ bars of 16th notes, wohoo

  • Vanessa Mae looks like a fucking Chinese dog. Her rendition was just awful. I want to shove her violin up her ass along with her fucking electric violin. She sucks at playing classical music

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  • Perfeito

  • Bravo! Beautifully played. Thank you for the video as it adds to the simplistic but ingenious art of what we are hearing now.

  • @EnterpriseFlight

    Oh dear, calling Bach simplistic is an extreme example of poor word choice.

  • @valois89

    No, it's pure ignorance and bigotry.

  • @EnterpriseFlight

    Bach wrote some of the most complex music of all time. Your comment is an example of extreme ignorance.

  • es muiiii secooo!

  • lol lol

  • Twenty three human beings on earth could give a negative rating above??? Beyond my ability to understand even if I do heartily believe in everyone's right to their opinion.............

  • Vanessa Mae's version is better, but only if you turn your computer speakers off.

  • @jephthah007 LOL

  • @jephthah007 You probably couldn't play better than either of them.

  • @pipebillys dam....i wish i could read what he sayd xD!

    its one of those cases where u look for the guy u talked to and he isnt in the list... el o el xD

    i just saw a guy (today) in the music school playing this like him =D

    pro's rule ^^

  • @pipebillys nvmnd..hes on the top xD fail <.<

    yea, i bet he couldnt xD

  • @jephthah007

    diferent types, i honestly prefer original one, its prettyer, her's its more for dancing and stuff.. =)

  • @jephthah007

    Eew, you got yellow fever.

  • @jephthah007 I guess a million or so viewers like the sound of Miss Vanessa Mae's shrilling.

  • @jephthah007 Nahh, Bobby Mcferrin's version is the most authentic.

  • @jephthah007 think i have a point here. when bach wrote this, he wasn't thinking: ''Nathan is my boy, fuCK vanessa mae!'' i think he was thinking: ''guys, wake up, sun is up, we all must shine''... ok i may like nathan milstein's version much more than vanessa's but goda dammit, if i like his play i wont gonna insult everyone in the world who plays this, just because I think that he/she ruins the piece. BE BACH, and than may be you ll have the right to say fuck you violin players! i love ya guys

  • @phosphore222 Relax, I wasn't telling any violin players "F___ you!" I was making a joke, I think it's a legitimate comparison. The irony is that Vanessa Mae is a beautiful young woman who plays this piece moderately well, while Milstein is a middle aged man whose playing is sublime, but he is less well known.

  • @altriego1 TOTALLY Agreeed. you should say fuck show buisness :D :D

  • @jephthah007 dont say bullshit

  • @jephthah007

    Dude, what an awesome quip!

  • @jephthah007 was going to disagree until i read the last part of the sentence

  • Rock out with your bach out

  • By far the best version of Bach's partita No. 3, on youtube.

  • I love good music.

  • 387,387 views when I come in . What are the chances. I mean, seriously.

  • @Subtitles00 1 in 387,387

  • I agree w/ Meesterc.., but this has raw, honest soul as an interpretation. Milstein demonstrates it with ease and passion. Heifetz appears to struggle through the same passages, although both favor the upper bow. 2:06 incredible bowing control and choice of shape to the melody. 210 intonation is sharp and Milstein is mostly a bit off. But bowing and choice of emphasis carries the tune. It is hard to tell whose intonation/bowing truly interprets the intention of the author. This is my favorite.

  • @fiddlraz 210 INTONATION IS SHARP AND MILSTEIN IS MOSTLY A BIT OFF?? WTF?? Whatever dude.. or girl dude... whoever you are. Plug it into your computer if you don't want intonation a "bit off" and enjoy the boringness of inhuman interpretation. This is one of the greatest... you're an ASS for saying "a bit off".

  • Bach's impeccable genious + Milstein's flawless technical skills = ☺

  • According to the Washington Times article after Maestro Milstein's death, it was a "1716 Stradivarius".................­....

  • this is great

    i wish i could play this good

  • Staggeringly great.

  • Vanessa...sucks

  • it seems like the more bach, handel and vivaldi i listen to... the less original Beethoven and Mozart sound to me, brilliant as they were

  • lisent bela fleck version on banjo... awesome.

  • Im tryin to learn this movement and I'm using THIS ONE as my prime example of how its played because it sounds the best to me

  • É possível alguém não gostar disso?! Rs.

  • For Plancks Time, I wonder on what basis you make the statement that all of us who prefer Milstein have poor listening skills. I have listened to, and participated in, classical music for decades. My hearing may not be what it was, but I can assure you that my ability to listen, from training and practice, is rather good. I know good performances when I hear them. At most you could say that you find Mae's performance more pleasing, and that would be fine. You don't know us, otherwise.

  • Not that it matters, but even though I prefer this version to all others I have heard, I would like it to be a bit slower. It seems rushed, but not alarmingly so. The tone and comprehensiveness/comprehensio­n exhibited by Milstein are, in my opinion, peerless.

  • Maybe the reason you guys like this man's version better is because his serious look, the black and white, the tuxedo and the emotion and interest with which he plays is far more suited to the classical era of music than the 'pop', 'asian' Maes. Not racism, but just the way different images fit better. Even the name "Milstein" is better for this music than "Vanessa Maes". Yeh, for those of you with poor listening skills, thats the only reason you would choose him

  • @PlancksTime Speaking frankly, the tonality on Milstein's is honestly just plain better. His technique serves to preserve the subtlety of the piece rather than to exaggerate and exploit Bach's composition.

  • I love how he just sits down at the end like "yeah..that's how its done" lol

  • @gnatural Exactly! xD

  • @gnatural lol, exactly

  • too fast but very good..

  • Wow, there seems to be some oneupsmanship with regard to given performers. Doesn't anyone think Itzhak Perlman is any good? LOL. The good thing about "so and so is better than so and so" is that I can go and listen to those as well. Vanessa Mae is a pop performer, but I'll bet her serious renditions are excellent. Any performer who plays Bach with respect is top notch in my book. I remember Jim Stafford who used to play "goofy" guitar until he played a classical piece which blew me away.

  • i like this version much better than vanessa mae's. this one is so clear and perfect, while she adds in all these ridiculous accels and rits that she puts in to make it sound impressive but just makes it sound like a child messing with too much improvisation. sure, there is room for interpretation, but there is a reason bach wrote his song the way he did, and nathan milstein plays it he way bach intended.

  • Way way better than Heifetz's version.

  • Why so many people in the commentaries are arguing about vanessa mae/Nathan Milstein version? Can't you just shut the fuck up and listen to the music?

  • great!

  • if i listened milstein's version first, i just can't go and listen anyone's version. It's impossible for me to change my perspective of bach's partita to any other's besides milstein's..

  • this is the best written solo violin piece ever.

  • OK, I have to ask this about the 23 or so people who seem to have voted against this performance: was that merely a pointer slip, or is there actually a reason for your attitude? Would you care to explain the rationale of your contempt, if any at all, to the just-shy-of-a-thousand listeners who thought otherwise, or you intend to leave us wondering? What is there that you dislike about Nathan Milstein? How much improvement is there to be made for your austere criterion to concede an approval?

  • I have to play this in our audition for chamber orchestra D:

  • There is no comparison to musicianship on this level, for this composition, during this era or any other. That's my opinion at least.

  • i simply love it... he's my rolemodel for how to play it... ♥

  • music doesn't get much better than this

  • This is why J S Bach is the greatest composer of all time

  • Milstein is insuperably good when it comes to this piece.

  • YO YO MA

  • @hgchjk oh yeah but she is a slut .. she is good but she is a mainstream slut POINT!

  • vanessa mae is a slut

  • thats god

  • HOLA: SOY ESTUDIANTE DEL CONCERVATORIO JJC , TOCO EL VIOLIN , ESTOY LLEVANDO A CABO UN TRABAJO PRACTICO Y ES BELLISIMO . LOS COMPOSITORES BARROCOS SON MIS FAVORITOS

  • It is like Bach has come alive. The joy! The JOY!!!

  • badass. he just sits back down like it was nothing.

  • Hilary Hahn is the best, she play this Partita better than Vanessa Mae

  • like this comment if you think this is a good performance and the new youtube layout sucks tremendously

  • This is the tune my school system plays to signal for morning assembly, hence we term it as 'the depressing music'. Now for the first time, im able to appreciate its elegance.

  • It's just this partita the cause of make me start play violin, maybe one day I will really learn this.

  • Vanessa Mae has no soul. She is a robot sent to look hot while overshadowing great violinists.. something she'll never be.

  • I hella love this song!! And in black and white!! YEAH!! Rock on!

  • It is elegant and joyous.....It also makes the hair on my arms stand up when here Nathan play this. It is complete control of the instrument, dynamics, bowing....There are none like him now.

  • he played it as perfect as possible! really like his interpretation.

  • I posted my remarks many months ago. If you find this style appealing, and many will, please look for the 80-year-old Milstein's rendition of the Bach Sonata No. 3, Allegro Assai. It is an amazing show of experience and skill, but in a well-aged man whose best years were behind him. Still, the mark of his ability is unmistakable, and I, for one, can only look on in awe.

  • un bach divin et exceptionnelle interprétation !

  • Awful pop. No feelings,no imagery. Where was he driving horses? Only Russian violinists to the transfer of all of these masterpieces.

    A full violinist - the worst violinist.

  • Wonderfully epic... I'm speechless.

  • at 2:05 it soung like theres 2 violins!!buts it only 1!!!

  • 2:04 to 2:08 is the hardest!!!!

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  • This is one of those performances that brings an uneducated listener to a sudden realization of new beauty.  It's as if I have never before heard the violin and Bach makes the experience of sound unbearably, excrutiatingly wonderful. I'm begging for mercy. More!

  • Does this guy have an amati or a stradivarius

  • @CheechPuppy08 He had a Stradivarious

  • @ericgable He had? What happened oh don't tell me.

  • @StradAmatiViolin Will he passed away, and the Milstein family sold it in the 20th century.

  • @ericgable Thats sad but I know he will love on in his music I will remember this piece the way he played it.

  • This is just so hard to play...how did Bach even invent this piece?

  • the bowing at 00:24 always kicks my ass! he does it with ease!

  • by far, my favorite interpretation.

  • erm why is there over 1 million views on the vanessa mae version, and this has barely 314,000? Is it just because she's hotter? This version is a bajillion sqaured times better than the vanessa mae version.

  • @Joshuaying the answer is because she reached the media, she is POP. I like both versions. Unfortunatelly, the fame goes to the ones who are presented on TV, etc and Vanessa reaches those people that would probably never go to an erudit concert. Nowadays, with internet, a good musician can build fame even here at YouTube ;-)

  • @Joshuaying lol ur right but i wouldn't use "hotter" because you don't necessarily use that term for guys

  • @Joshuaying Nathan milstein, is a 19th century violinists. Vennesa is a violinist in the 20th century and youtube wasnt even made back than. AND who cares people are missing NATHAN MILSTEIN playing the Bach prelude at his youngest momment.

  • @ericgable I tried using the bow at the tip but I don't play slow enough or fast enough I don't know how he does it I have to play at the middle of the bow in fast movements. I love how he plays it I wish I knew where to find more of these videos. I would say this video is priceless. :D

  • @StradAmatiViolin Look, when your still studying the violin or now, you should focus mainly on your BOWING and bow hold. Cause bowing and bow hold will improve your violin playing. Care about the use of bow. Also, you have to understand where to use the bow and everything. I mainly focus on my bow hold, and use.

  • @ericgable I do now it is becoming increasingly easier I am bowing more straight now. I just don't use the tip for fast movements I like the middle it helps more for some reason. I use the whole bow when I am playing a slow movement the partita 2 sarabande is an example that piece I'm used to it comes easily that's why I like practice. Thank You I hope to be as good as him.

  • @StradAmatiViolin You also use certain parts of the bows for specific reasons. Thats why you have to understand whats the best part of the bow for certain pieces. Also, dont use to much bow on sarabande,because first back than they had baroque bows and they played it way different. Thats why my teacher teaches me Baroque style. because to really play J.S Bach you have to play his period style. I do look up to Milstein aswell, he inspires me alot.. and i aswell want to be as good or equal to him

  • @ericgable Well I know most of the bowings ricochet bowing etc. I just need to learn how to do them. I try to keep my bowing for the bach srabande not just pulling quickly but hold it and pull slowly long as possible. Thank You writing back.

  • @Joshuaying you only support my view. There are millions who profess to understand and love music. However, there are few who do? Cheers

  • @Joshuaying it s called markting

  • @Joshuaying Absolutely!! Have you noticed how many of Mae's videos have had the comments disabled? Can't think why...

  • @Joshuaying shes not even that hot too... jeez.... -_-;;

  • @Joshuaying Don't 4get man she is fucking hot.

  • @Joshuaying - I'm not saying that Vanessa Mae isn't good, but honestly I think the skill and sound quality is much better in this one. There's something in this one that you can't find in the Vanessa Mae video..perhaps it is the emotion which Milstein plays this, or the dynamics. Either way, both are spectacular but I too have no idea why the videos are unequal.

  • @Joshuaying i cant really agreee. i agree that nathan palys better, but not this piece. playing faster is nothing. but i think you know that :)

  • @Joshuaying I just listened to both versions side by side comparing them.

    Milstein >> Maes

    Maes is a lot worse than his version. In fact, his speed actually makes the pauses sound a lot better

  • @Joshuaying it s buisness,markting bullshit

  • @Joshuaying

    Ouch that burns, I think Vanessa Mae needs some ice for that!

  • @Joshuaying The only problem is now everyone who watches this is now gonna go over there and see how bad it is.

  • @lookoutitscaleb omg darn it! that's what i just did!! argh

  • @Joshuaying It's because Vanessa Mae prefers to put in crap electronic sounds to make her music more appealing to the ears of dickheads that contribute to modern society and sound.

    What a pity that the legend that put so much of his style into the partitas is overshadowed by his contemporary counterpart, who rides on the coattails of unimaginitive and original-lacking playing.

  • @Joshuaying yeah hers seems really clumsy to me, this is EPIC

  • @Joshuaying It's because she's more well known now than Him. Remeber, Internet was invented a few years ago, therefore, since he was from the 1900's and she had performed when internet and computers were, it makes sense she would have more views.

  • @Joshuaying "Barely" 314,000 (now almost 400,000) views??? For a Bach violin partita on YouTube, that's still pretty awesome!!!! Vanessa is just more popular because she caters to the whims of her "target demographic": young folks more in tune with "pop" music than Baroque or Renaissance masterpieces. // That said, this IS a very exceptional performance of this wonderfully joyful musical creation..... i am SO happy that it's here for everyone (especially me, lol!!) to enjoy :-+).