i remember watchin this game...munster wernt even ad full strength, bt den agen dat was an almost c grade allblacks squad.. most of the players playin then still havnt made it to the allblacks starting line up.
the ironic thing is it was a kiwi player on the munster side who came forward out of the defense line that allowed rokocoko through :( still amazing performance from a pretty much 2nds munster team!
Rua Tipoki, he played for, and I think captained, the NZ Maori, Lefemi Mafi, think he played 7's or underage with the All Blacks and the last guy is Jeremy Manning.
Munster is not down at the bottom , they dont even play in just Ireland , they actually won the magners league 2008-2009 which consists of 4 teams from ireland , 5 from wales and 2 from scotland , formly known as the celtic league
i dont think you even understood what i said, Munster is down at the bottom of the country.....i didnt say they were at the bottom of any leagues, the province of Munster is at the bottom of Ireland....
lads quite a lot of the NZ players that day are their current test players that played against France. (Excluding forwards), Mafi fucked it up for us! but well forgive him cuz he is class :D
That was a great game of rugby....wouldve been awesome for the sport of Munster won but the ABs had too much experience in the end with rocokoko winning it. If we Rugby has more games like this the sport can only go higher from here.
cowards? look ye won the game and ye deserved it and i wish ye well in the final but dont go throwing words like cowards around. u came across any of them personaly ud shit urself my friend. doug howlet would eat ur babbies lol
actually, i do know what i'm talking about. if you actually did some research then you would see that a majority of them were in fact just out of highschool, with the exception of a few 1st team players. do you really think new zealand would play their adult squad and risk injury/exhaustion just a couple of days before the wales game?
maybe you should read what i said a bit more clearly
"you do realize that they were a development team and that a MAJORITY of them had just left highschool?"
i dont care about your thingo on the just out of school, i no they were not 'just out of school' name the people who were just out of school,
the fact still remains that it would of been and historical event in rugby history for munster (a club team) to beat all blacks (an international team) regardless of what side the blacks put out.
munster is a clquey, inferior provincial team. based mainly in limerick they are the only thing limerick people can feel vaguely proud of. many say that co. wicklow is the garden of ireland, co. limerick is thought to be the toilet or used syringe of ireland...
inferior provincial team?? what rugby have you been watching? this 'inferior' side is one of europes most successful teams and arguably the strongest in the world right now
They're not a bad team, It was the vicarious supporters I was referring to. I lived In Limerick and the folks are quite stand offish, and untrusting of "outsiders". I believe this stand offish attitude is manifest in some part due to colonialism and is an extension of the national phyche, an inferiority complex if you will.Generally however Limerick is starved of culture and the arts. It is a grey and bleak town, not a city. Munsters success is a welcome bandwagon on which to escape the truth!
honestly,how much rugby have you been watching lately?
the crusaders have been average this year and their mid table standing is proof of that. Bar one or two performances of late - one of which i attended, they have been poor
Whereas....munster sit top of the magners and have smashed everyone to reach the semis of the heineken cup, so yes munster could be seen as the best team in the world.
although im leinster, im not gonna be biased but munster are without a shadow of a doubt NOT the best club side in the world. in europe, mabye. but in the world?? thats laughable. the bulls are the best club side in the world.
bulls have played brilliantly this year, as have munster. i would love to see a world club cup - similar to whats in football, take place every year between the winners of the heineken cup and the super 14
But you have to remember that the Super 14 teams are an amalgamtion of professional rugby teams, so they are not club teams but representative teams. The Super 14 teams would have the upper hand. I know technically the Welsh and Irish teams are amalgamation teams but the teams they draw from would not be as good as the ones the Super 14 teams draw from.
oh. and any of the super 14 teams would beat Munster, in much the same way that any of the tri nations would beat Ireland. I'd say that the Crusaders are the best team in the world. And I'm not From Dublin, I was born and bred in Cork, I am a rebel and I am proud of that...the peoples republic of Cork rules, and is the best town in Ireland after Galway Belfast and Kilkenny and the great 2 cities of Irelan, Belfast and Dublin! OWNED poindexter. Fancy a few scoops after the gamo??
Im a Leinster man myself- were the serial underachievers in the HC- but hey, you live and hope... we better feckin win one soon though, as my missus is a munster girl, so you can imagine the years of abuse ive had to put up with
I will admit that i'm no expert on the s14, so im not gonna give you a load of bluff arguments but i will watch what i can this season and might take this argument up with you again. in fairness what little i have seen was high intensity stuff. But dont get carried away with Munster, they are certainly #1 at the mo but i think people in sh get an impression that no one else up here gives them a game and thats not the case . wasps have won hc twice as well and toulouse won it 3 times
I do think that most of a NZer point of view is drawn mostly upon international teams. I do not have a chip on my shoulder but I will say this..NZ are the best team in the world except at world cups, which means nothing really however I have always had a problem with NH comps not translating into quality test teams. So I think that is why we tend to be so 'up our selves' about S14.
That is I think a given. The power brokers up your way will eventually want some kind of closure as to who is best. I don't share your opinion on the final 8 HC keeping up with best 8 S14...the fact is that there are maybe 6 great teams in the S14 and the rest are shit. BUT..I think while the HC teams would smash the likes of the REDS, HIGHLANDERS and any SA team, there wouldn't be any contest between the top teams. I think the crusaders are too strong. Munster are the only team ...
...that could compete with the top teams. There are great players in the HC and it is the best set up competition and I wish we had a similar type of product but I think that the rugby
is not of the same standard as SH. But it is by far the best competition.
munster won 2 heineken cups with 90 percent munster born players.........no team in the world can match dat!!!!!new zealand get a massive amount of their stars from the pacific islands.........no country in the world has the pick they have!!!!
why does every other country seem to say nz poach players from the pacific islands?
dont you realize that new zealand is a pacific island itself? dont you realize that there are more pacific islanders born and living in new zealand than the islands themselves? they're all new zealanders..
warwick didnt fuk munster he played fucken class it wasnt his fault for losing it was mafi he went out of position wen rokofoko scored he left it wide open for him.if he had stayed in position he cud hav made d tackle n munster could hav won d game.we wudent hav taken d lead only for warwick.did u even see d game
Lets get this straight. best team in the world is the All Blacks. Best club team by a mile is the Crusaders. The Crusaders would destroy any team in Europe including the international teams. I am not disrespecting Munster. Huge respect. But don't fool yourself. Club rugby in Europe is better because of the imports. International rugby in Europe is not good for the same reason. Munster should tour NZ. The real deal.
munster are the best european team yes but not world team ATM
however i do think tht they are at the top with them
No dout Nz SA nd d auzzies will allways b the giants in int rugby but club rugby is becoming far better in northern hem., seeing the likes of dan carter,,macalister,chris jack,mauger,kelleher(who dosn even start LOL) coming over in the last few years is the just the start of the migration of rugby players 2 the north!
yeah and while club rugby is getting better your international teams are turning to shit. the club teams are getting flooded with southern hemisphere players leaving your promising up and comers to languish in reserve grades not getting the chance to better themselves against the best. look at whats happened to england, five years ago they were a world power house, now they're a joke.
it depends. most the players who go over to the northen hemisphere are no longer good enough to compete in the super 14. however, they are still good enough to play in the heinekin cup where they can make a lot of money. dan carters coming back to the super 14 straight after his seasons over in france.
tat made no sence ur sad for even sayn tat nz players mov to europe cause they payed lyk 15 times more tan tere payed in tere clubs in the super 14.super 14 is a league wit 14 teams only 14.europe is split into deferent leagues couse ter is so many teams teres d magners leagues,gunnise league,french 14,n d big 1 d heinken cup.now tink d french 14 n yee super 14.yee hav no competion tat is y new zealand players come to europe.n u sed carter is in france so he is not gud anuf for d super 14 now.
sorry to tell you this mate. but all the southern hemisphere players playing in the heinekin cup are all washed up. dan carter is only there for 6 months to make some money then hes back off to the super 14. doug howlett is in the top team in the heinekin cup and hes not even good enough to make it into the NPC(semi-professional tournament) anymore.
no competition in new zealand?
the south hemisphere has more professional competitions than all of europe combined.
do your research.. u dont have a clue ur making half this up i bet u dont even watch european rugby.. and dougie isnt washed up he was banned because he left nz.. use get very defensive about nz rugby and to be honest its no better than ours because when i was over there went to a few matches the crowds arent to great eithier
sorry to tell you this man but im making none of it up. the heinekin cup is filled with retired all blacks and super 14 player. the reason people stay in the super 14 is because it is a far more competitive competition and players improve far more. they also stay as they want to be able to play for their country. players usually switch over to the heineken cup when they're too old or not good enough to compete in the super 14 anymore.
the only reason nz players dont come to the H cup teams earlier in their careers is because they know they wont get to play again for the AB's if they do (with the exception of the golden boy Carter) and nothing to do with the super 14 being more competitive- but the players coming over are mostly around the 29 yr mark which is their prime. Ah well your loss is our gain...
Dont worry though slash you can always head over to Fiji, tonga or samoa and dangle a visa in front of some young talents parents eyes to replenish your squads - as an irish fan though it would piss me off to have to nick welsh or english players to put together the national team
haha. here we go again with the poaching idea.. your nations accuse us of poaching players from the islands... you couldnt be more wrong.
every single pacific islander in the team was either born in new zealand or grew up here from a very young age(except sivivatu). are you forgetting new zealand is a pacific island itself? are you forgetting there are more pacific islanders in new zealand that the pacific islands themselves? my city has the highest pacific island population in the entire world
do you not realize that nearly every single pacific island family has been in new zealand for about 3 generations now?
learn your facts before you start making assumptions. nearly all of them were born in new zealand, ALL of them grew up as new zealanders. if they wanted they could choose to play for their pacific island..but they choose not to. why is this? because they see themselves as new zealanders.
just keep telling urself that mate and there aint to many all blacks that get reguraly spots anyway.. look at mafi hes young and good and he isnt alowed to play just because he wanted to play in europe.. u no nothing about rugby over here so stop dissing it until u do
If my parents are irish and i grow up in england, that does not make me english. The islanders dont play for NZ out of kiwi pride they do so for two reasons, the first being financial, and the second much as I hate to say it as you all seem to be such arrogant knobs already, is because the AB's are the best team in the world
I am samoan but born in NZ my parents were born here. My grand parents were some of the first samoan emigrants to New Zealand...I can understand why irish people would want to maintain that identity if brought up in england or born there as there is a long painful history there...but it is not so with island nations and NZ or Australia. I maintain my culture but I am a NZer and always will be. I think this is something that is not fully understood in the NH
Here we are all Kiwis because we each "share" our cultures with each other. I mean if you really want to use your philosophy then aren't all irish/english/scot/welsh anglo saxon? Should paul sackey return to ghana? The underwood brothers were asian should they go back to asia? How about isaac boss?
interesting 2 get a sam/kiwi viewpoint on it, so tks 4 that -doh i'd argue your case is different in that you are 2nd gen kiwi. it is probably harder 4 me to understand doh as we do tend to be very nationalistic.
re anglo saxons- Irish people would consider themselves as descended from Celts rather than anglo saxons (prob a lot of scots and welsh would 2), though as you say , in reality we are all probably part of the same soup as invading Vikings, Normans etc would have settled and interbred
re sackey, boss etc, yeah im not a big fan of the granny rule - i mean whats the point of international rugby if you can play anyone who has a passing connection with the country. Id prefer to see those rules tightened up. it would help the smaller playing countries develop by keeping the best talents and they'd become more competitive which imo would be good for the game.
I think the granny rule is ridiculous personally. Something that alot of NH people miss is that it is almost a natural progression for Pacific families to find their way to either Australia or Nz. I always find it funny though that no one really has a go at australia though. As in recent years thay have used plenty of island boys. Yet it is us getting it in the neck. Somehting rarely reported also is that tonga and samoa use alot of NZ born based players. Some times very dodgey use.
interesting points, particularly about oz , but about NZ 'geting in the neck' c'mon, NH people only start spouting this stuff, when theres been some kiwi on shouting about how crap the h cup is and how bad NH international rugby is. We all know the big 3 down south and particularly AB's are still well ahead of us, but hey, we gotta fight back with something. re H cup, imo the last 8 teams would give the s14 teams a good run for their money. hopefully soon well c a world club champ play off
wow, new zealand musnt have some fucken awsome talent scouts then, considering the islanders were either born in nz or moved there before the age of 5
if thats so true then why do they leave all the time mc'calister carter aint old you cud bring any super 14 team to munster and i garntee they wud get smashed.
man duno y say tat name all d tounmets other tan d super 14...n u say munster arnt gud anuf for super 14..they wud hav no problum in super 14 tere only compition wud be crusaders. munster arnt a team any more tere a franchise n tey are d best team in europe.if u watched tat game munster only had 3 players from tere 1st team d rest were reserve players..n tey toke d lead agaist yer 2nd team..it shows if tey played tere first team yee wud hav been distroyed.
that was no 2nd string team all blacks team man...those players in the new zealand team had just come out of teens. virtually all of them, except for a couple of players, had no super 14 experience what so ever.. it was worse than a 2nd string team..
Just because Munster played good that game and are the european champs dont mean they're the best club side. Mate Crusaders will demolish Munster hands down. Out of 13 seasons of super12 and super14 crusaders have taken it out 7 times. And mind you the super14 contains the best players in the world from the three best nations in rugby union! South Africa, Australia and of course New Zealand. Players such as Burger,Smit,Habana,George Smith,Palu,Mitchells,Rockokoko,Mills,Sivivatu, Woodcock.
It is one of the things that have Irish media puzzled why they can't replicate it in green. Some of their players have been quoted as saying that wearing the red means more to them. Don't forget that they are the no.1 ranked team in europe. I know it was a second string team NZ fielded but it was (I stand to be corrected) pretty much the same team that hockeyed Scotland. Munster might not be the best team in the world but they would, I believe, beat alot of the Super 14 teams.
I think they would beat maybe 2 South African teams the highlanders and the reds but none of the other teams. The rugby is too open in S14 and they would last about a 1/4 of the season before cricket scores would go against them.
Your right they are Europes best team and have an outstanding home record but they could win the odd one off match against S14 sides but not regulary.
Well I think it a bit unfair Razbra dat just cause the 3 SH teams are the best intern'l teams at the mo that it must mean the club rugby up North is shite compared to S14. Club teams up here is v strong cause they buy in positions they think they are weak in so generally the better HC teams are test match standard. Don't forget also that Crusaders have dominated S14 unlike any HC team (I think theres 7 winners), which possibly suggests a disparity between their standard and the average standard
If perhaps Nh teams were buying the "best" players in each position you could make the assumption(and that is exactly what it is an "assumption") that they would be test standard. But they are not. They are buying Argentines a few frenchies and Southern players at the end of their respective careers(Carter,Heyman,Evans,Mcallister excluded). That is not and never will be test standard. It is easy for me to say NH are shite and leave it at that...but I do not think that...
Munster and Stade francais consistantly win their respective comps so therefore disparity is squarely on your shoulders as well.I will continue to think the crusaders are the best club team until there is some kind of world club challenge,as in league, The only basis can be the strength of the test teams of each respective country!
Razbra, txt string too long to see comment u were replying 2 but think I got it. Munster rugby is one of the biggest brands in rugby (which is why Adidas were rumoured to have made it happen). They have brought 65,000 fans to big matches. I'm not saying Munster are the best team in the world but don't think just because so many of their players line out for Ireland that because Ireland are bad that so are they. It is one of the things that have Irish media puzzled.
not a hope are crusaders better, munster are by a mile the best club in the world, seriously do the crusaders have a record at home like munster, ten years without losing a game in thomond park. if it was a crusaders v munster game munster would win hands down. you dont come into Thomond Park and expect to win
hell no. the entire irish team is basically munster. the entire all black team is basically the crusaders. who usually win between the all blacks and ireland?
the heinekin cup is filled with players who arnt good enough to play in the super 14 anymore.
No doubting the ability of munster but honestly southern hemisphere players see your comp as nothing more than a retirement scheme. You guys get our guys who are at the end of their careers and are past their best and you fall over yourselves to sign them (Dan carter,Nick Evans,Luke McCalister,Carl heyman excluded). I fail to see how a club team from a nation that has never beaten NZ could be better than NZs strongest team. Munster r great but honestly mate your dreaming.
the players play so much better for munster than ireland, majority of fans support munster, then ireland, they never play as well for ireland as the do ireland. trust me. when was the last time you saw a new zealand team pushed to the limit by a club side seconds team bar about 3 players.....and took one of the best wingers in the world to score a try with four mins left...if the crusaders were to come to thomond park they would not win!!!
Thats maybe part of my point. Yes wonderful they can win under pressure with men down. But the Crusaders(i am actually a hurricanes fan and hate the crusaders during the super 14) are more accustomed to smashing other teams with XV players. It just means they are a better disciplined team!They do just about everything with an annoying efficiency that even the All Blacks would be jealous of. It is hard for me to believe it is more important to play club over country there, but I am not Irish.
sorry didn't read you text properly. You may need to look at the fact that no other teams play mid week games anymore.
You should also look at the fact that the team of "all Blacks" you played have never played together in that combination before. It was a Second string team! Also many NZ club teams have beaten touring Test squads in the past.
the last time ireland had a full blown tour with mid week games in NZ they were beaten three times by club teams. Cantabury won 38-13 Auckland smashed them 62-7 and Manawatu also humbled them 58-24. So there you go in the context of things what have Munster really proved? that they could foot it for 78mins with a second string team but could not beat them.
nah your dreaming bud, as much as i hate to admit it, (being from Hurricanes country) but the crusaders are easily the best club side in the world. they play in a comp which is made from the best three rugby nations in the world and theyve won 7 out of 13 seasons since it started. munster are awsome, no doubt. but crusaders are the best of the best.
I would have loved to have seen both teams put out their full team! It would have been klass, with out a doubt the munster team are way better than the irish team!!!!
shows how much you know sayin it was an all black b team. theres no such thing as a b team. when u wear the jersey, ur an all black. munster had more 1st choice players missin ie the entire pack.
NZ still played second stringers. When they bought out a few first stringers in the end the game was won. Munster were fantastic and what is amazing is that they were second string them selves. But the fact reamins had both teams trotted out their top liners NZ ould have blown them off the park. Most of the Nz team that started will likely never be all blacks again..they were brought on tour specifically to play munster as emerging players if you lived in NZ you would have known that.
I meant that specific players had been brought along with the sole intention of playing in the munster game,and this was mentioned several times in the local media. As for my comment on never 'playing again' i was over stating a wee bit. But there are certainly at least a few guys bnot likely to play again any time soon
Hika Elliott, Mcintosh,Hosea gear,Cory Jane,Jason Eaton and Alby matheson- if they do its likely years away.
Fair enough. Was an absolutely riveting game though eh? For a while I imagined that Bob Bickerton Song, 'Greater Than Creation' being sang with a whole new gusto. Ah, but I was wrong. The All Blacks, still the greatest....
razbra...i tink ur highly wrong!!! not the biggest munster fan but cant imagine any team-national or club-"blowing" munster away! they prove themselves time and time again (particularly today against clermont). prob one of the most consistently outstanding teams in world rugby-if not the best!!!
Its wonderful that you love your team that much. But get real mate. Any full strength top 4 international team would humble them. I really don't want to get in to it with you,Munster are an outstanding team europes best club. But the fact remains they are a club team!
hell no. even this team beat munster... and they weren't even the real all blacks. they were all developing players. most of them had just come out of their teens and had no super 14 experience whatsoever.. and they still managed to beat munster
Munster are the European Champions and are a province.they have 7 starting Irish internationals,to call it a Irelands B team is a bit wrong.Also that team that started against the All Blacks,maybe only 2/3 players might play in a European cup match.But Munster are the pride of this country.Irish team is wrecked with the Leinster(Brian O'Driscoll and his gayboy players) influence with there faggit way of going on.Paul O'Connell is a brute of a man and is the real captain of Ireland.
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MRdotPTR 3 weeks ago 2
@0boyle And this was NZs B-C team?
nigahigasMyFav 3 months ago
why whould he fucking kick the ball out wen your 2 down
OHnumberniine 5 months ago
nz team sucked
09georger 5 months ago
@09georger These were all basically reserves.
spankky90 2 months ago
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0boyle 7 months ago
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0boyle 7 months ago
@0boyle he's still an Irish international...
alternativebassist 7 months ago
3 years on, and i still can't come to terms as to why Warwick kicked it away
dadubs93 8 months ago 4
im better than all of them
TheDunmanway 9 months ago
does anyone know or hear what the AB players thought it was like facing the haka? magical occasion
life2lifele55 9 months ago
@life2lifele55 wouldve loved it, a respect thing.
adammmr 8 months ago
Still a third string A'Bs team but fuck me would really expect them to do better then that
drtyda 10 months ago
great highlights.
melbournecrosbie 1 year ago
i remember watchin this game...munster wernt even ad full strength, bt den agen dat was an almost c grade allblacks squad.. most of the players playin then still havnt made it to the allblacks starting line up.
TooMujBaddas 1 year ago
warrick lost it not munster. he fuck up
x1R1SHxG0LF3Rx 1 year ago
@x1R1SHxG0LF3Rx poor lad..unreal player though
MrFaglord 1 year ago
the ironic thing is it was a kiwi player on the munster side who came forward out of the defense line that allowed rokocoko through :( still amazing performance from a pretty much 2nds munster team!
Marveh 1 year ago
why are only some of the munster team doing the haka
cheese123321123321 1 year ago
@cheese123321123321 those players are actually from new zealand :p
Marveh 1 year ago
@cheese123321123321 because only 4 of the players were from New Zealand.
ckeltuboff 1 year ago
munster the best in europe
niall824 1 year ago
Why oh why did Warwick kick away???
SuperSlick01 1 year ago 2
@SuperSlick01 yeah he wasted that
yvdswyvds 1 year ago
why did warrick kick it out like that the idiot! keep it in hand!! we cud hav got drop goal.
MrLiamConnolly 1 year ago
Think Munster has a couple of kiwi in there. Not all of em did the haka. Just the "legit" hakateers ;)
caleberiel 2 years ago
nz had more first team players here tan munster
rory198 2 years ago
Since then
sunflowery 2 years ago 6
since when Munster has a haka??
123eorl 2 years ago
those 4 guys are kiwis playing for munster.
stanlymanly2 2 years ago
who are the other 3 besides howlet ?
TwixSMDB 2 years ago
the white one is Jerremy Manning, i guess
123eorl 2 years ago
Rua Tipoki, he played for, and I think captained, the NZ Maori, Lefemi Mafi, think he played 7's or underage with the All Blacks and the last guy is Jeremy Manning.
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o8kate8o 2 years ago
AAAHHHH YA IRISH AND MAORI LMAOO- wonder what that will make " MORE KIWI" lol- YOu go Ireland Haka!
Featheredman2009 2 years ago
limerick clare waterford cork nd kerry munster represent
wwwsnoop9 2 years ago
what team does Munster represent? like city, or country????
tarolegs12 2 years ago
munster is a province in ireland, there is 4 provinces, and munsters down at the bottom (bottom of the country that is)
1KarlMurray 2 years ago
Munster is not down at the bottom , they dont even play in just Ireland , they actually won the magners league 2008-2009 which consists of 4 teams from ireland , 5 from wales and 2 from scotland , formly known as the celtic league
upinsmokes999 2 years ago
i dont think you even understood what i said, Munster is down at the bottom of the country.....i didnt say they were at the bottom of any leagues, the province of Munster is at the bottom of Ireland....
1KarlMurray 2 years ago
lads quite a lot of the NZ players that day are their current test players that played against France. (Excluding forwards), Mafi fucked it up for us! but well forgive him cuz he is class :D
civicsaloon 2 years ago
If they hadn't kicked it at the end there they might have had a chance
WazQuaz 2 years ago
That was a great game of rugby....wouldve been awesome for the sport of Munster won but the ABs had too much experience in the end with rocokoko winning it. If we Rugby has more games like this the sport can only go higher from here.
obi582 2 years ago
Munster missin half their team aswell,
4 players from irelands local side had to play, missin rog, paul o connol, earls, quinlan, horan, hayes, o leary.
Tobber56 2 years ago
LONSTER!
urfadder 2 years ago
cowards? look ye won the game and ye deserved it and i wish ye well in the final but dont go throwing words like cowards around. u came across any of them personaly ud shit urself my friend. doug howlet would eat ur babbies lol
fenian08 2 years ago
ur talking shite did u see some of their players, either way even if they wer all 19year olds i didnt see them come to play leinster did u?
fenian08 2 years ago
Munster cowards hammered by leinster and they didnt even have van der linde or kearney!!!!!!
kiwicoachire 2 years ago
haha bye bye account
life2lifele55 2 years ago
how are they cowards... leinster fan here by the way, and i was in croker on saturday, so stop talking shite
marcher87 2 years ago
thats just class i think any team with four or more kiwi's should preforme the haka before every match it would just be class i reckon:)
walesxscarlets 2 years ago
Munster. . . . The Best Province in World Rugby.
xXDK7Xx 2 years ago
WHAT THE FUCK IS MURRAY MECKSTEIDE (dunno how to spell his name) ON ABOUT!!!!!!
'well that kick was needed to defuse this potential blob'
or whatever he said....
fucking douchebag....
u cant say that
munster were way better than the allblacks that night and they deserved to win....
im munster won it wouldnt of been a blob...
it would have been rugby history...
OSHMIE 2 years ago
you do realize that those weren't the real all blacks do you?
you do realize that they were a development team and that a majority of them had just left highschool?
i doubt beating a group of 19 year olds would make rugby history.
SLASH570570 2 years ago
mate what are u no about,
munster is a CLUB TEAM,
allblack international team, and the best international team in the world,
i dont care what u think but i think a club team beating the top team in world rugby would be pretty historical dont you think,
just out of school, are u kiddding,
donald, rokokoko, toeava may be young but has played world cup and super14 semis, waldron is old enough,
and thats just to name a few,
im sure if i looked at the match the program i could find more.
OSHMIE 2 years ago
actually, i do know what i'm talking about. if you actually did some research then you would see that a majority of them were in fact just out of highschool, with the exception of a few 1st team players. do you really think new zealand would play their adult squad and risk injury/exhaustion just a couple of days before the wales game?
maybe you should read what i said a bit more clearly
"you do realize that they were a development team and that a MAJORITY of them had just left highschool?"
SLASH570570 2 years ago
ok,
i dont care about your thingo on the just out of school, i no they were not 'just out of school' name the people who were just out of school,
the fact still remains that it would of been and historical event in rugby history for munster (a club team) to beat all blacks (an international team) regardless of what side the blacks put out.
ok
OSHMIE 2 years ago
Sorry buddy, did some research. Yeah I'm bored. The ages of the players who started against munster are as follows Jane - 25; H Gear - 24; Tuitavake - 25; Toeava - 22; Rokocoko - 25; Donald - 24; Weepu (capt) - 25; Mackintosh - 23; Flynn - 27; Franks - 20; Filipo - 29; Eaton - 26; Thomson - 27; Waldrom - 28; Messam - 24
What age do you go to school to in NZ??? Don't make stupid comments you can't back up.
SonnyMulligan1980 2 years ago 2
Did the all blacks not bring there usual first 15 because they had some odd players there!
jesssta07 2 years ago
A few all blacks were playing in the Munster side (their club team)
Bucketheadhead 2 years ago
not really, they used this game to give their reserves and backup players some game time.
UHtiger 2 years ago
sorry for sounding like a dumbass, but what is 'Munster'
TrEkKiE2k7 2 years ago
munster is an irish rugby team
philharmonie182 2 years ago 3
@philharmonie182 thought it was a semisoft cheese
beerndumplings 1 year ago
The team that beat the All Blacks 12 - 0.
nialler12 2 years ago
Irleand is made up of four Provinces... Leinster, Munster, Connaght and Ulster
OJMMDD 2 years ago 2
A rugby Team!!
seanobrien321 2 years ago 2
the greatest rugby team in the world
tuxdwyer 2 years ago
munster is a clquey, inferior provincial team. based mainly in limerick they are the only thing limerick people can feel vaguely proud of. many say that co. wicklow is the garden of ireland, co. limerick is thought to be the toilet or used syringe of ireland...
dunlaoghaire 2 years ago
shut up you D4 fag
inferior provincial team?? what rugby have you been watching? this 'inferior' side is one of europes most successful teams and arguably the strongest in the world right now
life2lifele55 2 years ago
They're not a bad team, It was the vicarious supporters I was referring to. I lived In Limerick and the folks are quite stand offish, and untrusting of "outsiders". I believe this stand offish attitude is manifest in some part due to colonialism and is an extension of the national phyche, an inferiority complex if you will.Generally however Limerick is starved of culture and the arts. It is a grey and bleak town, not a city. Munsters success is a welcome bandwagon on which to escape the truth!
dunlaoghaire 2 years ago
honestly,how much rugby have you been watching lately?
the crusaders have been average this year and their mid table standing is proof of that. Bar one or two performances of late - one of which i attended, they have been poor
Whereas....munster sit top of the magners and have smashed everyone to reach the semis of the heineken cup, so yes munster could be seen as the best team in the world.
life2lifele55 2 years ago
munster are a bunch of girls!!!!
kiwicoachire 2 years ago
although im leinster, im not gonna be biased but munster are without a shadow of a doubt NOT the best club side in the world. in europe, mabye. but in the world?? thats laughable. the bulls are the best club side in the world.
chublets 2 years ago
we'll agree to disagree
bulls have played brilliantly this year, as have munster. i would love to see a world club cup - similar to whats in football, take place every year between the winners of the heineken cup and the super 14
life2lifele55 2 years ago
good idea but where would you play it? northern hemisphere or southern hmisphere? because who ever plays closer to home would have a HUGE advantage.
chublets 2 years ago
aisa, the tri-nations game in Hong Kong last year was a big success, it would be a neutral venue but attract a big crowd
life2lifele55 2 years ago
Build a pitch on the equator or in Antartica!
limerickgreen 2 years ago
But you have to remember that the Super 14 teams are an amalgamtion of professional rugby teams, so they are not club teams but representative teams. The Super 14 teams would have the upper hand. I know technically the Welsh and Irish teams are amalgamation teams but the teams they draw from would not be as good as the ones the Super 14 teams draw from.
limerickgreen 2 years ago
oh. and any of the super 14 teams would beat Munster, in much the same way that any of the tri nations would beat Ireland. I'd say that the Crusaders are the best team in the world. And I'm not From Dublin, I was born and bred in Cork, I am a rebel and I am proud of that...the peoples republic of Cork rules, and is the best town in Ireland after Galway Belfast and Kilkenny and the great 2 cities of Irelan, Belfast and Dublin! OWNED poindexter. Fancy a few scoops after the gamo??
dunlaoghaire 2 years ago
owned? hardly son, im not going to debate with you over what the best town in ireland is, i honestly couldnt give a fuck what you like/dislike
but i will disagree with your comment of the munster team, dont back track on what you said earlier
'munster is a clquey, inferior provincial team'
there is no mention of your disdain for the supporters in that comment, you were referring to the team
life2lifele55 2 years ago
also ifu think the reds or cheetas from the super 14 would beat munster then your retard
life2lifele55 2 years ago
why were the all blacks playing munster??
ajm6665 2 years ago
why not?
when a country tours it plays against countries and clubs
Ireland have never beaten NZ but munster have
alucardlubu 2 years ago
ye itz pretty confusin actually...
RIPTESTWWE 2 years ago
Im a Leinster man myself- were the serial underachievers in the HC- but hey, you live and hope... we better feckin win one soon though, as my missus is a munster girl, so you can imagine the years of abuse ive had to put up with
Macsimus1978 3 years ago
on reflection i'll back down...Munster could beat the crusaders.....out of ten games I think munster are good for 2.
Rugbypolitic 3 years ago
I will admit that i'm no expert on the s14, so im not gonna give you a load of bluff arguments but i will watch what i can this season and might take this argument up with you again. in fairness what little i have seen was high intensity stuff. But dont get carried away with Munster, they are certainly #1 at the mo but i think people in sh get an impression that no one else up here gives them a game and thats not the case . wasps have won hc twice as well and toulouse won it 3 times
Macsimus1978 3 years ago
I do think that most of a NZer point of view is drawn mostly upon international teams. I do not have a chip on my shoulder but I will say this..NZ are the best team in the world except at world cups, which means nothing really however I have always had a problem with NH comps not translating into quality test teams. So I think that is why we tend to be so 'up our selves' about S14.
Rugbypolitic 3 years ago
That is I think a given. The power brokers up your way will eventually want some kind of closure as to who is best. I don't share your opinion on the final 8 HC keeping up with best 8 S14...the fact is that there are maybe 6 great teams in the S14 and the rest are shit. BUT..I think while the HC teams would smash the likes of the REDS, HIGHLANDERS and any SA team, there wouldn't be any contest between the top teams. I think the crusaders are too strong. Munster are the only team ...
Rugbypolitic 3 years ago
...that could compete with the top teams. There are great players in the HC and it is the best set up competition and I wish we had a similar type of product but I think that the rugby
is not of the same standard as SH. But it is by far the best competition.
Rugbypolitic 3 years ago 2
it was munsters 2nd team
conall13 3 years ago
fuckin love munster
mochababy2 3 years ago
Nevermind all the "Who's better, blah blah" crap, great game of rugby, that's all that matters, respect all round!
aindrias 3 years ago
munster won 2 heineken cups with 90 percent munster born players.........no team in the world can match dat!!!!!new zealand get a massive amount of their stars from the pacific islands.........no country in the world has the pick they have!!!!
ronoc89 3 years ago
those pacific islanders are either new zealand born or moved there with their family when they were very young.
UHtiger 3 years ago
why does every other country seem to say nz poach players from the pacific islands?
dont you realize that new zealand is a pacific island itself? dont you realize that there are more pacific islanders born and living in new zealand than the islands themselves? they're all new zealanders..
SLASH57062 3 years ago
munster rely on their kiwi lads. altho Warwick fucked munster at the end of that game, bootin it into touch on 81 minutes when he had an overlap.
galeforcerob 3 years ago
warwick didnt fuk munster he played fucken class it wasnt his fault for losing it was mafi he went out of position wen rokofoko scored he left it wide open for him.if he had stayed in position he cud hav made d tackle n munster could hav won d game.we wudent hav taken d lead only for warwick.did u even see d game
mikekeating09 3 years ago
munster might have thaught they have got it again but all blacks play more than 80 minutes.
daredevilrugbyplayer 3 years ago
djackedinc + bring any of your teams to thomond park and see how ye get on , yeel only need a 1 way ticket becouse you will be shouted back
ryanmc31896 3 years ago
Lets get this straight. best team in the world is the All Blacks. Best club team by a mile is the Crusaders. The Crusaders would destroy any team in Europe including the international teams. I am not disrespecting Munster. Huge respect. But don't fool yourself. Club rugby in Europe is better because of the imports. International rugby in Europe is not good for the same reason. Munster should tour NZ. The real deal.
djackedinc 3 years ago 2
Munster are the best club team in the world!!
limerickandproud 3 years ago
munster are the best european team yes but not world team ATM
however i do think tht they are at the top with them
No dout Nz SA nd d auzzies will allways b the giants in int rugby but club rugby is becoming far better in northern hem., seeing the likes of dan carter,,macalister,chris jack,mauger,kelleher(who dosn even start LOL) coming over in the last few years is the just the start of the migration of rugby players 2 the north!
better pay better fan base y wudnt they come
mickrum 3 years ago 2
yeah and while club rugby is getting better your international teams are turning to shit. the club teams are getting flooded with southern hemisphere players leaving your promising up and comers to languish in reserve grades not getting the chance to better themselves against the best. look at whats happened to england, five years ago they were a world power house, now they're a joke.
UHtiger 3 years ago
it depends. most the players who go over to the northen hemisphere are no longer good enough to compete in the super 14. however, they are still good enough to play in the heinekin cup where they can make a lot of money. dan carters coming back to the super 14 straight after his seasons over in france.
SLASH57062 3 years ago
tat made no sence ur sad for even sayn tat nz players mov to europe cause they payed lyk 15 times more tan tere payed in tere clubs in the super 14.super 14 is a league wit 14 teams only 14.europe is split into deferent leagues couse ter is so many teams teres d magners leagues,gunnise league,french 14,n d big 1 d heinken cup.now tink d french 14 n yee super 14.yee hav no competion tat is y new zealand players come to europe.n u sed carter is in france so he is not gud anuf for d super 14 now.
mikekeating09 3 years ago
LOL.
sorry to tell you this mate. but all the southern hemisphere players playing in the heinekin cup are all washed up. dan carter is only there for 6 months to make some money then hes back off to the super 14. doug howlett is in the top team in the heinekin cup and hes not even good enough to make it into the NPC(semi-professional tournament) anymore.
no competition in new zealand?
the south hemisphere has more professional competitions than all of europe combined.
SLASH57062 3 years ago
do your research.. u dont have a clue ur making half this up i bet u dont even watch european rugby.. and dougie isnt washed up he was banned because he left nz.. use get very defensive about nz rugby and to be honest its no better than ours because when i was over there went to a few matches the crowds arent to great eithier
barhez099 3 years ago
sorry to tell you this man but im making none of it up. the heinekin cup is filled with retired all blacks and super 14 player. the reason people stay in the super 14 is because it is a far more competitive competition and players improve far more. they also stay as they want to be able to play for their country. players usually switch over to the heineken cup when they're too old or not good enough to compete in the super 14 anymore.
SLASH57062 3 years ago
Dan Carter's washed up then is he???
Macsimus1978 3 years ago
dan carter is going back to the super 14 straight after his contract in france is done (only a few months)
SLASH57062 3 years ago
the only reason nz players dont come to the H cup teams earlier in their careers is because they know they wont get to play again for the AB's if they do (with the exception of the golden boy Carter) and nothing to do with the super 14 being more competitive- but the players coming over are mostly around the 29 yr mark which is their prime. Ah well your loss is our gain...
Macsimus1978 3 years ago
Dont worry though slash you can always head over to Fiji, tonga or samoa and dangle a visa in front of some young talents parents eyes to replenish your squads - as an irish fan though it would piss me off to have to nick welsh or english players to put together the national team
Macsimus1978 3 years ago
haha. here we go again with the poaching idea.. your nations accuse us of poaching players from the islands... you couldnt be more wrong.
every single pacific islander in the team was either born in new zealand or grew up here from a very young age(except sivivatu). are you forgetting new zealand is a pacific island itself? are you forgetting there are more pacific islanders in new zealand that the pacific islands themselves? my city has the highest pacific island population in the entire world
SLASH57062 3 years ago
do you not realize that nearly every single pacific island family has been in new zealand for about 3 generations now?
learn your facts before you start making assumptions. nearly all of them were born in new zealand, ALL of them grew up as new zealanders. if they wanted they could choose to play for their pacific island..but they choose not to. why is this? because they see themselves as new zealanders.
SLASH57062 3 years ago
just keep telling urself that mate and there aint to many all blacks that get reguraly spots anyway.. look at mafi hes young and good and he isnt alowed to play just because he wanted to play in europe.. u no nothing about rugby over here so stop dissing it until u do
barhez099 3 years ago
If my parents are irish and i grow up in england, that does not make me english. The islanders dont play for NZ out of kiwi pride they do so for two reasons, the first being financial, and the second much as I hate to say it as you all seem to be such arrogant knobs already, is because the AB's are the best team in the world
Macsimus1978 3 years ago 2
so what you're saying is.... if your family had lived and grew up in ireland for 3 generations... you wouldnt want to play for ireland?
SLASH57062 3 years ago
NO, that is clearly not what I am saying
Macsimus1978 3 years ago
the all blacks are the best team for rugby in 2008...
because i read in the newspaper that they won 13 games outta 15 in 2008
and no other rugby team bet that :]
so therefore we are the best so far (:
LuvNZforevah 3 years ago
I am samoan but born in NZ my parents were born here. My grand parents were some of the first samoan emigrants to New Zealand...I can understand why irish people would want to maintain that identity if brought up in england or born there as there is a long painful history there...but it is not so with island nations and NZ or Australia. I maintain my culture but I am a NZer and always will be. I think this is something that is not fully understood in the NH
Rugbypolitic 3 years ago
Here we are all Kiwis because we each "share" our cultures with each other. I mean if you really want to use your philosophy then aren't all irish/english/scot/welsh anglo saxon? Should paul sackey return to ghana? The underwood brothers were asian should they go back to asia? How about isaac boss?
Rugbypolitic 3 years ago
interesting 2 get a sam/kiwi viewpoint on it, so tks 4 that -doh i'd argue your case is different in that you are 2nd gen kiwi. it is probably harder 4 me to understand doh as we do tend to be very nationalistic.
re anglo saxons- Irish people would consider themselves as descended from Celts rather than anglo saxons (prob a lot of scots and welsh would 2), though as you say , in reality we are all probably part of the same soup as invading Vikings, Normans etc would have settled and interbred
Macsimus1978 3 years ago
re sackey, boss etc, yeah im not a big fan of the granny rule - i mean whats the point of international rugby if you can play anyone who has a passing connection with the country. Id prefer to see those rules tightened up. it would help the smaller playing countries develop by keeping the best talents and they'd become more competitive which imo would be good for the game.
Macsimus1978 3 years ago
I think the granny rule is ridiculous personally. Something that alot of NH people miss is that it is almost a natural progression for Pacific families to find their way to either Australia or Nz. I always find it funny though that no one really has a go at australia though. As in recent years thay have used plenty of island boys. Yet it is us getting it in the neck. Somehting rarely reported also is that tonga and samoa use alot of NZ born based players. Some times very dodgey use.
Rugbypolitic 3 years ago
interesting points, particularly about oz , but about NZ 'geting in the neck' c'mon, NH people only start spouting this stuff, when theres been some kiwi on shouting about how crap the h cup is and how bad NH international rugby is. We all know the big 3 down south and particularly AB's are still well ahead of us, but hey, we gotta fight back with something. re H cup, imo the last 8 teams would give the s14 teams a good run for their money. hopefully soon well c a world club champ play off
Macsimus1978 3 years ago
wow, new zealand musnt have some fucken awsome talent scouts then, considering the islanders were either born in nz or moved there before the age of 5
UHtiger 3 years ago
if thats so true then why do they leave all the time mc'calister carter aint old you cud bring any super 14 team to munster and i garntee they wud get smashed.
link10304 3 years ago
man duno y say tat name all d tounmets other tan d super 14...n u say munster arnt gud anuf for super 14..they wud hav no problum in super 14 tere only compition wud be crusaders. munster arnt a team any more tere a franchise n tey are d best team in europe.if u watched tat game munster only had 3 players from tere 1st team d rest were reserve players..n tey toke d lead agaist yer 2nd team..it shows if tey played tere first team yee wud hav been distroyed.
mikekeating09 3 years ago
that was no 2nd string team all blacks team man...those players in the new zealand team had just come out of teens. virtually all of them, except for a couple of players, had no super 14 experience what so ever.. it was worse than a 2nd string team..
SLASH57062 3 years ago
Who cares, it was a great match to watch, come on Munster
endas180 3 years ago
Just because Munster played good that game and are the european champs dont mean they're the best club side. Mate Crusaders will demolish Munster hands down. Out of 13 seasons of super12 and super14 crusaders have taken it out 7 times. And mind you the super14 contains the best players in the world from the three best nations in rugby union! South Africa, Australia and of course New Zealand. Players such as Burger,Smit,Habana,George Smith,Palu,Mitchells,Rockokoko,Mills,Sivivatu, Woodcock.
Lesi14 3 years ago
asdf
Lesi14 3 years ago
It is one of the things that have Irish media puzzled why they can't replicate it in green. Some of their players have been quoted as saying that wearing the red means more to them. Don't forget that they are the no.1 ranked team in europe. I know it was a second string team NZ fielded but it was (I stand to be corrected) pretty much the same team that hockeyed Scotland. Munster might not be the best team in the world but they would, I believe, beat alot of the Super 14 teams.
k947598 3 years ago
I think they would beat maybe 2 South African teams the highlanders and the reds but none of the other teams. The rugby is too open in S14 and they would last about a 1/4 of the season before cricket scores would go against them.
Your right they are Europes best team and have an outstanding home record but they could win the odd one off match against S14 sides but not regulary.
razbra33 3 years ago
Well I think it a bit unfair Razbra dat just cause the 3 SH teams are the best intern'l teams at the mo that it must mean the club rugby up North is shite compared to S14. Club teams up here is v strong cause they buy in positions they think they are weak in so generally the better HC teams are test match standard. Don't forget also that Crusaders have dominated S14 unlike any HC team (I think theres 7 winners), which possibly suggests a disparity between their standard and the average standard
k947598 3 years ago
If perhaps Nh teams were buying the "best" players in each position you could make the assumption(and that is exactly what it is an "assumption") that they would be test standard. But they are not. They are buying Argentines a few frenchies and Southern players at the end of their respective careers(Carter,Heyman,Evans,Mcallister excluded). That is not and never will be test standard. It is easy for me to say NH are shite and leave it at that...but I do not think that...
razbra33 3 years ago
Munster and Stade francais consistantly win their respective comps so therefore disparity is squarely on your shoulders as well.I will continue to think the crusaders are the best club team until there is some kind of world club challenge,as in league, The only basis can be the strength of the test teams of each respective country!
razbra33 3 years ago
Razbra, txt string too long to see comment u were replying 2 but think I got it. Munster rugby is one of the biggest brands in rugby (which is why Adidas were rumoured to have made it happen). They have brought 65,000 fans to big matches. I'm not saying Munster are the best team in the world but don't think just because so many of their players line out for Ireland that because Ireland are bad that so are they. It is one of the things that have Irish media puzzled.
k947598 3 years ago
not a hope are crusaders better, munster are by a mile the best club in the world, seriously do the crusaders have a record at home like munster, ten years without losing a game in thomond park. if it was a crusaders v munster game munster would win hands down. you dont come into Thomond Park and expect to win
robconnellan 3 years ago
hell no. the entire irish team is basically munster. the entire all black team is basically the crusaders. who usually win between the all blacks and ireland?
the heinekin cup is filled with players who arnt good enough to play in the super 14 anymore.
SLASH57062 3 years ago
like dan carter?
FlankerDeiniol 3 years ago
please note what i said. MOST.
SLASH57062 3 years ago
No doubting the ability of munster but honestly southern hemisphere players see your comp as nothing more than a retirement scheme. You guys get our guys who are at the end of their careers and are past their best and you fall over yourselves to sign them (Dan carter,Nick Evans,Luke McCalister,Carl heyman excluded). I fail to see how a club team from a nation that has never beaten NZ could be better than NZs strongest team. Munster r great but honestly mate your dreaming.
razbra33 3 years ago
the players play so much better for munster than ireland, majority of fans support munster, then ireland, they never play as well for ireland as the do ireland. trust me. when was the last time you saw a new zealand team pushed to the limit by a club side seconds team bar about 3 players.....and took one of the best wingers in the world to score a try with four mins left...if the crusaders were to come to thomond park they would not win!!!
robconnellan 3 years ago
Thats maybe part of my point. Yes wonderful they can win under pressure with men down. But the Crusaders(i am actually a hurricanes fan and hate the crusaders during the super 14) are more accustomed to smashing other teams with XV players. It just means they are a better disciplined team!They do just about everything with an annoying efficiency that even the All Blacks would be jealous of. It is hard for me to believe it is more important to play club over country there, but I am not Irish.
razbra33 3 years ago
sorry didn't read you text properly. You may need to look at the fact that no other teams play mid week games anymore.
You should also look at the fact that the team of "all Blacks" you played have never played together in that combination before. It was a Second string team! Also many NZ club teams have beaten touring Test squads in the past.
razbra33 3 years ago
the last time ireland had a full blown tour with mid week games in NZ they were beaten three times by club teams. Cantabury won 38-13 Auckland smashed them 62-7 and Manawatu also humbled them 58-24. So there you go in the context of things what have Munster really proved? that they could foot it for 78mins with a second string team but could not beat them.
razbra33 3 years ago
I still like Munster though! I just think its abit rich to call them the worlds best club team without playing the other top teams ie Super 14 teams.
razbra33 3 years ago
nah your dreaming bud, as much as i hate to admit it, (being from Hurricanes country) but the crusaders are easily the best club side in the world. they play in a comp which is made from the best three rugby nations in the world and theyve won 7 out of 13 seasons since it started. munster are awsome, no doubt. but crusaders are the best of the best.
UHtiger 3 years ago
Stringer got hit hard at 0:57
legend game
Greguitar94 3 years ago
Munster And All Blacks . Two Biggest names in rugby at the Mo !!
alcatraz3677 3 years ago
I would have loved to have seen both teams put out their full team! It would have been klass, with out a doubt the munster team are way better than the irish team!!!!
yellowlor 3 years ago 3
ya munster are way better than the ireland team its a pity the other lads werent there
twomeyangel 3 years ago 2
HEHE I went to the same school as Stephen Donald
Kiwisrlegendry 3 years ago
did u go to this match though? i was hehe!!!
noflynn94 3 years ago
shows how much you know sayin it was an all black b team. theres no such thing as a b team. when u wear the jersey, ur an all black. munster had more 1st choice players missin ie the entire pack.
1983honey 3 years ago
NZ still played second stringers. When they bought out a few first stringers in the end the game was won. Munster were fantastic and what is amazing is that they were second string them selves. But the fact reamins had both teams trotted out their top liners NZ ould have blown them off the park. Most of the Nz team that started will likely never be all blacks again..they were brought on tour specifically to play munster as emerging players if you lived in NZ you would have known that.
razbra33 3 years ago
I live in NZ & I didn't know that....
allagoo 3 years ago
I meant that specific players had been brought along with the sole intention of playing in the munster game,and this was mentioned several times in the local media. As for my comment on never 'playing again' i was over stating a wee bit. But there are certainly at least a few guys bnot likely to play again any time soon
Hika Elliott, Mcintosh,Hosea gear,Cory Jane,Jason Eaton and Alby matheson- if they do its likely years away.
razbra33 3 years ago
Fair enough. Was an absolutely riveting game though eh? For a while I imagined that Bob Bickerton Song, 'Greater Than Creation' being sang with a whole new gusto. Ah, but I was wrong. The All Blacks, still the greatest....
allagoo 3 years ago
razbra...i tink ur highly wrong!!! not the biggest munster fan but cant imagine any team-national or club-"blowing" munster away! they prove themselves time and time again (particularly today against clermont). prob one of the most consistently outstanding teams in world rugby-if not the best!!!
quickahndjudge 3 years ago
Its wonderful that you love your team that much. But get real mate. Any full strength top 4 international team would humble them. I really don't want to get in to it with you,Munster are an outstanding team europes best club. But the fact remains they are a club team!
razbra33 3 years ago
canterbury crusaders are better
UHtiger 3 years ago
hell no. even this team beat munster... and they weren't even the real all blacks. they were all developing players. most of them had just come out of their teens and had no super 14 experience whatsoever.. and they still managed to beat munster
SLASH57062 3 years ago
no way man. most of those all black players on the field had just come out of their teens. most of them had no super 14 experience whatsoever.
SLASH57062 3 years ago
great video. we were unlucky to lose it. of course, both teams were down their big guns!!!
noflynn94 3 years ago
the all blacks don't have a B team ,the munster team was its b team it's players being retained for the Irish squad
orientaldog 3 years ago
all blacks put out a B team we would have thrashed them if we had our best players on ie: carter
MauriMidget 3 years ago 2
munster had a b team...no hayes,oConnell,o'gara,o'callaghan...etc
feeneybopper 3 years ago
bitterness and pride!!
limerickandproud 3 years ago
fighting irish-we should av won that game
erniepimlott 3 years ago
munster is a provience there are 4!!!! Munster Connaught Leinster and ulster
Munster has 6 counties
Cork Kerry Limrick Clare Tipperary and waterford but munster is the biggest and the best rugby team in ireland
ciaranhickie 3 years ago 2
Haha fair play.
I bet Dougie missed that tackle on purpose!
(please note internet sarcasm...)
jimbobjimminy 3 years ago
Munster are the European Champions and are a province.they have 7 starting Irish internationals,to call it a Irelands B team is a bit wrong.Also that team that started against the All Blacks,maybe only 2/3 players might play in a European cup match.But Munster are the pride of this country.Irish team is wrecked with the Leinster(Brian O'Driscoll and his gayboy players) influence with there faggit way of going on.Paul O'Connell is a brute of a man and is the real captain of Ireland.
lexus1888 3 years ago
what are munster? are they like the best players from european rugby.