Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - Kill Confirmed - Bakaara - M.O.A.B

[DeathByNumbe7s]

damn it you died at the end. I wanted you to live on forever. Bigb keeping it real with a strafe run lol

[irisngen]

I hide in bushes, but i only go 7-8, not 13-1.

I R B Beast

[Emize24]

455 views. WTF is going on here.

[Emize24]

I was sniping. I am the best. Nuff said.

[DyLusionz]

Its ps3 sorry but there all bad this video proves it :/

[TheJunkyjunker]

@DyLusionz troll a long sonny boy...

[Hurleyisdaman]

Although it is impressive to get a MOAB with those guns, I do think it's extraordinarily team campy.

And before I get flamed because it seems JLoco is catching for his subs seeing this, I would have said the same thing without his comment.  Those being defensive should understand that seeing kill confirmed played like this is frustrating to see since it was supposed to break the habit of spawn trapping new game modes.

[musashi1596]

I don't know how you stuck with the L86 for so long, that thing has nasty sound effects...

[MrFinalPrestige]

I'm all for a good spawn trap in Demo as long as people plant, but clearly the intention here was not to collect all the tags and go to time limit for kills. If this would have happened to anyone on this team, they would be complaining that the other team "played cheap", "camped", "worry about kd".

If the newbs in the room sat back in their spawn and never moved, what would happen, a 0-0 game? Gotta protect that spawn trap, right.

[TheJunkyjunker]

@MrFinalPrestige Where in this does this say we are protecting a spawn trap? This is people getting on streaks and wanting to continue a streak to get a MOAB. All for a good spawn trap in demo? So as long as you win it's ok? Well as long as the win is secured in this game then it's the same shit. Honestly, if this would have happened to me I wouldn't complain because I'm a good player and know how to break a spawn trap.

[MrFinalPrestige]

@TheJunkyjunker Do you think people who've played COD for 4 years don't know what a spawn trap is? If I posted a picture of a zebra, never call it a zebra, and have someone say why is that zebra there, can I say I never said anything about a zebra? It's a spawn trap, any way you slice it.

Difference with Demo is you have to spawn trap to plant the bombs. You have to push the team into a corner to complete the objective safely. There's no need to do it in Kill Confirmed.

[TheJunkyjunker]

@MrFinalPrestige WTF you on about zebras for? This is about spawn traps. First off, you don't "need" to spawn trap to plant a bomb on demo. Once again you lose that one bud. There's no "need" to do it any game mode. There is no need to spawn trap ever, a spawn trap is 6 people working together to win the game. This was an easy win and a funny game to post. We win, end of.

[Slayerboi1988]

@MrFinalPrestige where were we ignoring the tags? we won! Spawn trapping is spawn trapping, your point is absolutely flawed! no matter what game mode. i don't mind playing cheap and camping as long as we get the win, i would like to see you play against us, because no matter what for us the win comes first! K/D second.

Next time you play demo or dom capture all 3 flags and plant all bomb sites with minimal kills! er im guessing not!

[MrFinalPrestige]

@Slayerboi1988 Defensive, I see! People who play Kill Confirmed, actually move out and get their tags. The player had more kills denied than actually confirming his own. And hiding behind the fact that you won doesn't cover the image of 57 tags collected over 10 minutes when your team had more than double kills. In a game mode called Kill Confirmed, you had more Kills Denied than actual confirms. Shows a lot about how the game was played.

[Slayerboi1988]

@MrFinalPrestige erm do you know what you actually talking about, coming on here talking about Zebras and stuff, you really are deluded in some sort of manner! Why do you care about how the game was played? nothing really to do with you in how we play KC. At the end of the day whether we collected one tag and won or collected 65 tags and won its stills winning!

[MrFinalPrestige]

@Slayerboi1988 Yes, it was an analogy... actually was directed at a different comment.

As far as why do I care, I don't care, but posting videos to youtube opens anyone up to criticism, good and bad. That same argument applies to posting videos and if you care such much about people who react negatively, why post in the first place? Fact is I commented on a video, received replies, so naturally I reply. It's how the internet works

[Slayerboi1988]

@MrFinalPrestige i think you would have been better off with symbolism rather than analogy. the only reason why your here is because of Jloco, no other reason! Your inadequacy and confusion on about constructive criticism on youtube videos is not even here, you just agreeing with Jloco

[MrFinalPrestige]

@Slayerboi1988 What does Loco have to do with anything? Granted, he liked the video, I took a peak. I didn't even reply or agree with a single comment of his. I stated my opinion on spawn trapping and a situation of 2 teams camping and you had to reply defending your gameplay.

[Slayerboi1988]

@MrFinalPrestige you really have no idea what your talking, spawn camping in any game mode is the same regardless on how it is played, i'm bored of you now au revoir

[MrFinalPrestige]

@Slayerboi1988 Apparently you have no idea what I am talking about, because I stated it very clearly. If the other team camped, and never left their spawn, and nobody advanced, the game would have ended in a 0-0 tie. I don't know how much clearer it gets than that.

[TheJunkyjunker]

@SpeedArtFX Troll along laddy... you're a fuckin nubcake.

[TheJunkyjunker]

@SpeedArtFX You have 15 subs... go away.

[TheJunkyjunker]

The fact of the matter is this... the game was put up as Pop messing around with 2 LMG's. The fact it is getting hate from people is laughable. Even on videos I've seen is that it's ok not to collect every tag. This isn't stat padding or anything it's 6 players playing the game smart. Same reason people cap 2 flags in dom and spawn trap. You only "need" two flags to win but if you cap all 3 the game is over in half the time. You only need 1 tag to win. Same thing. To say differently is retarded.

[Jloco11]

@TheJunkyjunker There is a difference between collecting every tag, and ignoring the majority for the games to go to time limit.

There is a difference with Dom that has a finite point limit with no time limit, compared to KC that has a finite point and time limit... especially when the game should have been finished 1/2 way through.

AND, this is not the only game, it's been a series of low tag collected, time limit games in order to get MOABS. Fact is, it's boring to watch.

[TheJunkyjunker]

@Jloco11 What does time limit have to do with anything? Spawn trapping is spawn trapping. We forced 3 rounds on demo on MW2, we did the same with domination and other games. The fact is you may find this boring but that doesn't mean what is being done isn't "right or wrong"

[Jloco11]

@TheJunkyjunker Dom & KC spawn trapping can't be compared. Because without a time limit on Dom, the game will end based on a rolling point total.

KC is based on tags, which are ignored for the most part in order to stretch the game out further. Unlike other objective modes, where you only need 1 person to plant a bomb or what not, this is a whole group effort to ignore the objective for kills. All that's done is enough to prevent losing to gain more kills & streaks.

[TheJunkyjunker]

@Jloco11 Ok so what you're saying is that because there's no time limit in dom it's ok to spawn trap? All you're doing in that game mode is capping enough flags to prevent your team from losing? Your argument is flawed. You can say the gameplay is boring that's fine but to say one spawn trap is worse than another is downright foolish. You can't condone it in one hand and condemn it on the other.

[Jloco11]

@TheJunkyjunker Look at the opening statements. Capture and Hold Flags vs Collect Tags for the win. In Dom, you're SUPPOSED to guard a flag from being captured (it has more in common with Team Defender than KC).

Kills do not matter in Dom, however, kills DO matter in KC and so do the tags, 65 of them. But the tags in these spawn traps go ignored to preserve stats. Fact is KC and Dom are 2 incomparable game modes, and you're arguing to ignore objectives to keep a spawn trap.

[TheJunkyjunker]

@Jloco11 Alright, I'm going to assume that you have spawn trapped in a domination game? Aren't you ignoring the third flag in order to extend the game and get more kills? Have you ever played a HQ game on shipment and not capped the HQ just to extend the game? Seriously if you find the gameplay boring then don't watch it, if you expect someone to run and gun and collect all the tags and get a moab with 2 LMG's then please post your MOAB with that set up.

[Jloco11]

@TheJunkyjunker Oh lord, are you seriously pulling the "Don't Watch" and "Let's See You Do This" 12 year old brainfart I get on my channel all time? Just throw in the towel now if that's your argument.

Again, you think spawn trapping is inherent and necessary to every game mode... that shows you're arguing solely for kills. To win at KC, you need to kill AND collect, something hard to do on the other side of the map.

(have to continue in second post... damn 500 characters)

[Jloco11]

@TheJunkyjunker (second post). Mathematically in Dom, what makes sense... Having 6 people holding all 3 flags, splitting your resources 3 ways, or having the same six divide amongst 2 flags. It's not just spawn trapping, it's simple math on how to win at Dom. The kills will be there just doing the objective.

In KC, what objective are you protecting? Nothing. The objective is to collect and by sitting back, this is no different than the noob ignoring HQ's or flags.

[TheJunkyjunker]

@Jloco11 The objective in KC is to collect tags or protect your own. Collecting 65 tags is 1 way to win the game, another way to win the game is to not let the other team collect 65 tags. So by protecting your tags you aren't letting them win, it's the same shit as dividing your resources. You make an argument like we are losing these games, last I checked we have all over 7 win loss ratios and rarely lose. You can say it's because we run in a party but again that's the point of the game. Cont'd

[Jloco11]

@TheJunkyjunker No clue why Shipment is even thrown in... nobody takes that map seriously for anything other than a killfest in ANY mode. Nobody caps EVERY objective, it's impossible, but if you want to personally look at my stats, go look at my the number of Dom caps, S&D & Demo plants or even better, the ratio if kills I have to kills confirmed... then look at the core people in parties and tell me who ignores objectives

[TheJunkyjunker]

@Jloco11 You ignore tons of flags and HQ's. Not every single person needs to get all the tags/flags/HQ's. How many times have we played HQ on Shipment and never capped an HQ until the very end just so we all can get 100+ kills? It's really funny how all of the sudden this is an issue? Why? Like I said, you aren't even arguing the fact you used to do this shit in other games and now find an issue. I did a reverse hipfire commentary on you camping for a nuke.

[Jloco11]

@TheJunkyjunker I proudly said I camped for Nukes to complete a challenge... what challenge was completed here?

I spawn trap in game modes that require it as part of the logic to win. Demo, Dom, to a certain extent Sabo if quick plants are out. Spawn trapping in KC, finishing with double kills over tags collected in a party no less, is sad. Partially play the objective enough to win in a game mode meant for running & gunning, turned into a spawn trap. Congrats.

[TheJunkyjunker]

@Jloco11 I'm interested to see where this rule book is for how to play KC? The point of the game is to win, doesn't fucking matter how it's done. Playing in a party is a lot harder to get tags than playing with randoms and getting loads of tags. When you play with 11 shit players and you're the only decent one in the room it's easy to do well. Look at my sub account and you'll see I do the same shit. Congrats you boost to complete challenges.

[Jloco11]

@TheJunkyjunker Try watching the intro trailer of KC from IW to see them clearly say this is what run & gunners have been asking for! I didn't say anything that said spawn trappers.

Don't give me that bullshit that playing in parties is harder... it's harder when you sit back and camp, not move and ignore tags. It's always easier to win in a party. Only time parties fight for kills is TDM. Stop acting all butthurt that someone calling out cheap tactics isn't a typical troll.

[TheJunkyjunker]

@Jloco11 Please, cheap tactics? Like boosting with Sub__Acct and xDwright05? You are a booster and a dumbass. Check out your stats? I did see you get a MOAB with an AS50 on the 20th. Wanna post that one up on YouTube? Typical troll? You are the typical troll, you boost and then talk shit about someone else's MOAB. Get owned son.

[TheJunkyjunker]

@Jloco11 Amazing how you say to look at your stats and then complain when someone does! Not taking things personally just doing as you say. If you don't want people to look at your elite stats then don't send them to do it. Seriously, now this is even more laughable.

[Jloco11]

@TheJunkyjunker Where did I complain? My stats have always been public, can be looked at any time by anyone. I know they get looked at daily by people who are interested. They're free for anyone to check on.

Still doesn't change what I initially said in my very first post, KC has been turned into campfest.

[TheJunkyjunker]

@Jloco11 KC is not a campfest it is a game mode where spawns can be manipulated and handled by a smart team. You choose to play solo and you can't do these types of things then comment negatively publicly and have your subs come in and do the same. The game was won easily and people dropped MOAB's obviously something you struggle with. Maybe you should focus more on your gameplay and worry less on how others are playing.

[Jloco11]

@TheJunkyjunker 1) I can't control what my subs decide to view, nor do I send them. They see it on youtube, and show up.

2) KC isn't a campfest because people run & gun. To manipulate spawns, you NEED to camp. There is no way around that. If 6 people run in different directions, spawns dynamically change, so the only way to control that, is to camp.

And since a good portion of the community wanted this game mode to be R&G, these tactics defeat that purpose!

[TheJunkyjunker]

@Jloco11 lol you come in here and blast the person who made the vid thus giving your subs free reign to do the same. Yes, when you post you leave yourself up to criticism but not someone who says they are a friend. You could have done that in numerous other places instead you chose to do it here.

Did they win the game? Yes, are there more than 1 way to play the game? Yes. Just because your opinion on how to play the game differs doesn't mean you're right. Cont'd

[Jloco11]

@TheJunkyjunker I did the same thing in Haytred's video... when they were 4-1 half way through the game and nobody showed up. I have BEEN saying on PGz that the way KC has been played lately is cheap. Again, can't control what videos people choose to see regardless of the comment I make.

And it's not only my opinion... got watch some of the other channels complaining about tactics people use in KC. This is exactly what IW didn't want for THIS game mode.

[TheJunkyjunker]

@Jloco11 Yet again putting your foot in your mouth and showing you don't know how to play the game properly. If 6 people run in different directions all die and lose 6 tags then how are they going to win the game and defend their objective? You say there is no objective to lose but losing your tag is losing the objective. So a defensive playstyle doesn't suit you, so what keep it to yourself or expect backlash. You say you aren't the typical troll..well you've been owned and you keep coming back

[Jloco11]

@TheJunkyjunker 6 good players running and gunning in a party, are not going to lose to 6 randoms. Just look at how we play TDM, do people sit back? No, it's full speed ahead to get as many of the 75 kills as possible.

There are plenty of ways to R&G in KC, play smart, AND put up good scores. But camping on an overmatched team? Really? Playing defensive against someone who went 0-37? What exactly was he going to kill other than himself? 

[TheJunkyjunker]

@Jloco11 6 good players run and gunning only causes people to get shot in the back constantly. That 0-37 kid can get 2 cheap kills just by spawning behind someone. The game is frustrating enough, and to be honest this type of game is boring to me but that doesn't mean I go on someone's video and talk shit about the gameplay. if you want to complain about it use your own channel and make a video. Don't go one someone else's video and talk shit about their gameplay.

[Jloco11]

@TheJunkyjunker Oooh, a death! People getting shot in the back, I'm sure people will get over that. Usually in good parties, 6 people talk communicate and 1 person doesn't leave himself on the other side of a map to get killed. A death here and there won't throw the balance of a game.

That's the beauty of the internet, opinions are shared, whether we like them or not! Same way you and Slayer write back disagreeing with my view, is what makes the internet what it is.

[TheJunkyjunker]

@Jloco11 You keep going back to the same shit over and over again, yeah it's the internet and we have a place where we can have this discussion and not have your subs come in and say retarded shit. You opened it up and said shit first so people come back at you. Just like you said to look at your stats and then they show you're boosting. Whether it's camping or not makes no difference. The only thing is you wouldn't complain if you were in the party doing it to someone but complain here?

[Jloco11]

@TheJunkyjunker I do complain in parties about bullshit! How many times did we play HQ on MW2, leave the final one untouched, only for me to bitch about that because we were playing for stats. How many times in parties did I complain about letting the other team plant in Demo to extend the match, and we end up losing on stupid shit!

In parties, I always play for wins then stats... and bitch when others play for stats over wins.

[TheJunkyjunker]

@Jloco11 This is the same fucking thing! They play for the win first and then stats! You are proving my point yet again, bravo!

[Jloco11]

@TheJunkyjunker At no point was this win in jeopardy, give me a break. Fact is the only time they were down in tags, they were up 20 kills. Had they played the game the way the rest of the community plays it, the game wouldn't have been close or this long. Hence, this was a game for stats.

If this was a close and contested game, playing defensive would work, but this was a blow out from the start, and kept close to run up point total

[TheJunkyjunker]

@Jloco11 For the last time, you do the same shit in other games. Hell you even posted a video with myself and haytred in it on MW2 rundown I think HQ and you say we are telling the randoms not to cap the last HQ so we can run up the kills. Next thing, just because this game mode was "designed" for run and gun doesn't mean it has to be played that way, The fact is you bitch about others doing it but see no issue when it's you doing it.

[TheJunkyjunker]

@Jloco11 People do sit back in TDM, they sit back to get killstreaks. It's done in every game mode. Your argument is floundering and you have nothing left to hold on to. A win is a win is a win. People can't argue that and the way it's done is nothing short of what's done in other game modes. The other game modes are fucked in this game so this is the one that is chosen.

[Jloco11]

@TheJunkyjunker Whole teams don't sit back... and if you do get a whole team that sits back, how often do we complain they're camping? Every single time.

There's nothing wrong with other game modes. This is just the easiest at the moment to rack up points, same way Demo was in MW2. The other modes are probably "fucked" because IW tinkered with the spawn systems in them to prevent spawn trapping. But as we've seen, it's still done.

[TheJunkyjunker]

@Jloco11 it has nothing to do with your view and everything to do with how you did it. If you want to share something like that do it on your own channel or on the forum. That's why those are there. To do this here is what makes you look like an asshole. Other modes are fucked because it doesn't have to do with spawn traps.Look at the video where I get spawned directly behind and stabbed in the back. Not in a party and playing dom. Yeah you get over it but it's frustrating when it can be avoided

[Jloco11]

@TheJunkyjunker That's funny, because 90% of your comments are towards my view. I have said my piece on the forums, and I have said them in people's videos and will continue to, because I don't sugarcoat shit for the sake of appearance.

Getting spawned has been happening since COD4, it's not going to change. But that's a flaw in the game design, not a flaw in the player.

[TheJunkyjunker]

@Jloco11 That's because you don't see how spawn trapping in this is the same as spawn trapping in every other fucking game mode. You don't need to sugar coat it. Things come out when they need to. Can't wait for all this to be brought to light. You never have an issue when you are the one spawn trapping and getting nukes or moab's but now that other people are doing it you have an issue. You don't need to sugarcoat anything bud, people see you for who you are in time. Glad this came out now.

[Jloco11]

@TheJunkyjunker And how many times have I said this was a game mode not intended for spawn trapping? It's the same mold as TDM (something we never spawn trap), with the added wrinkle that someone needs to collect a tag for a team. This is not Dom, or Demo, or any other mode built to trap a team in corner. But that's what it's been turned into! Nobody argues over Dom because playing the objective will trap a team, but KC was designed by IW to be different!

[TheJunkyjunker]

@Jloco11 aren't all games designed to be won? Isn't that's what they are doing? Your argument is weak when you allow for certain games to be played one way and not others. Domination was designed to cap all three flags and win as fast as possible. People turned it into cap 2 and spawn trap. KC was designed to force people to win the game by capping tags and not having yours be capped. Exactly what they are doing.

[Jloco11]

@TheJunkyjunker Of course game modes are played differently! Do we play Sabo or CTF to spawn trap? Now, we get that shit over with as quickly as possible.

Dom was actually designed for teams to fight for the B flag... That came from CS where teams had all out wars for the middle of the map. COD4 makers even said they designed the game based on CS!

TDM is won by outkilling the other team, so when a douche goes 13-1, sitting in a bush hiding, he's playing the game, right?

[TheJunkyjunker]

@Jloco11 If some douche sitting in a bush goes 13-1 your team doesn't deserve to win. That argument is fucking stupid as shit, you talk about calling shit out then say some douche is going to camp in one spot and go 13-1. And the main reason we never played sabo or CTF to spawn trap is because they aren't good modes to do it on with the spawn delay. *facepalm*

[Jloco11]

@TheJunkyjunker You know what's sad, you twist your OWN argument and then think you're right, haha. Look 2 posts ago "certain games to be played one way and not others". In other words, play games the same way.

I said we don't play Sabo or CTF the same way and you translate that into "because they aren't good modes to [spawn trap]. The argument was clear, we DON'T play game modes the same way, keep up if you're going to twist things.

[TheJunkyjunker]

@Jloco11 The reason we don't play those games is because they aren't good spawn trapping games. Next stupid comment? When we do play those games it's always to go straight for the win because the games aren't that exciting and there aren't a lot of kills that can be had because of the spawn delay. The sad part is you honestly have no clue what your side of the argument is anymore and can't claim if you're right or wrong. In the end you're a booster and a cheat so your opinion is null.

[Jloco11]

@TheJunkyjunker Now I have to give lessons in spawn traps? Of course Sabo is a spawn trap waiting to happen, they ALWAYS spawn by the bomb until it's planted! You're worried about the delay because it takes away from kills, which shows different game modes are played differently.

We could easily spawn trap for 20 minutes in Sabo (we've done it), but we choose quick plants, so apparently you missed the memo on how Sabo really works

[Jloco11]

@TheJunkyjunker Where did the dude is 13-1 against a party with call outs? I can't seem to find that.

I said when he's 13-1 in TDM, he's outkilling everyone right? Even sitting in a bush. So if objective is to kill people, he's doing the job, playing like a bitch regardless of his competition. Again, if you're going to argue my points, at least READ them fully to understand them.

[TheJunkyjunker]

@Jloco11 I'm going to break this down for you since it's quite clear you're a bit slow. If a kid is going 13-1 by sitting in a bush then you don't deserve to win and he is obviously the superior player to you. Next point, You can't even type a coherent sentence so how am I supposed to read and comprehend what you're saying? "Where did the dude is 13-1 against a full party with call outs?" That's not even coherent. You are the biggest fucking troll and I can't wait to laugh when you get reset.

[Jloco11]

@TheJunkyjunker Missed one word in sentence... you missed out on a whole point being made. I'll stick with minor grammar mistakes instead of being incapable of logic.

You also must have missed the part in the initial argument that never said what team. I said he's 13-1 in a bush, could be on my team, could be on other team. Some how you translate that into automatically being an opponent. Like I said, logic helps when you read the WHOLE sentence.

[TheJunkyjunker]

@Jloco11 didn't miss the topic at all really, why would I care if someone on my team is going 13-1 in a TDM and we are winning? Makes no sense why I would complain about that! Hell we all play with people who camp and have camped ourselves and helped the team win. Didn't miss anything just seems that your logic is the only one allowed on this earth.

[TheJunkyjunker]

@Jloco11 Read my points and reply then numbnuts. You sit here and say you play for the win and then stats and you don't just pad stats in game then why'd you say in your commentary that you told the randoms not to cap the last HQ so you could pad your stats? All your stats are padded anyway with the boosting and PS quitting you do. So for people who don't do that this is a nice alternative.

[Jloco11]

@TheJunkyjunker Old argument in thread = check. Old video being watched = check. New argument being ignored because you have no reply to what I just said = check!

I also make random analogies in my videos, talk about supermodels, pornstars and sports... would you like to run through a list of each video of the shit I say for entertainment, shits and giggles?

[TheJunkyjunker]

@Jloco11 New video on my channel = check. Your stats being reset = hopefully soon to be check. You also claim to be the one who knows how to play the game yet you are the one who is boosting? Like I said many times before your opinion is null and void and you have no leg to stand on. Keep thinking you are right it'll all come crumbling down.

[TheJunkyjunker]

@Jloco11 honestly your argument is weak, and to be completely honest has become quite boring. You bitch and moan about every goddamn thing because you can't do it. We've spawn camped in sabo we do this blah blah blah...But then on the other hand you say you don't extend games to pad stats. You flip back and forth so much it's like you're a politician and I've grown quite tired of you. Enjoy the new video up... it's a doozy.

[Jloco11]

@TheJunkyjunker Aww, how sweet! The funniest thing is the same can be said from your arguments. Hop back and forth, ignore points and continue.

I've always said I had no issue spawn trapping in Dom, my issue is Kill Confirmed, yet somehow you've managed to miss that whole point. Amazing how that works.

[TheJunkyjunker]

@Jloco11 It's obvious this whole thing went right over your head. Don't worry one day you'll understand it.

[TheJunkyjunker]

@Jloco11 Oh and one last thing before I'm done with this, I know you'll come back because you feel that you need to have the last word so you'll think you've won. Don't worry about that though I've already won.

[Jloco11]

@TheJunkyjunker Kept thinking that you've "won"! If that's what makes you go to sleep at night, knock yourself out!

[TheJunkyjunker]

@Jloco11 LOL like I said... keep coming back to say shit like that. You win Loco... we can only get MOAB's by boosting, no wait, that's you!

[Jloco11]

@TheJunkyjunker I thought you were "done with this". Apparently you only say things that have little or no value since you can't actually just walk away like you claim.

Like I said, whatever floats your boat!

[Inkology112]

Thank you for wasting my life with this retarded ass video.

[gigidigo3]

that was boring

[barbedwings]

I have no idea how you can play this badly and get a MOAB.

[xPaTH2PaiNx]

nice gameplay pop

[IIIIVisualFaceIIII]

Loved it, keep them coming.

[Jloco11]

Honestly, when Swamps has almost as many kills as the team has tags, that's pretty sad.

You guys have turned a game mode that was built for running and gunning into campfests. Really time to start considering going for tags instead of stats and MOABS because this is starting to get sad to watch now

[Slayerboi1988]

@Jloco11 depends how you perceive it, Domination is about holding all the flag and protect them, yet no one does it, HQ is all about capturing all the HQ's as quick as possible, Sabotage is all about planting the bomb and going for the win etc etc, how many teams, people, friends do you see do this? i would say virtually none.

Yes we are supposed to play the objective, however, the win is most important, not matter how many kills we get in Kill Confirmed 95% of the time we always win

[Jloco11]

@Slayerboi1988 If it was about winning, you could have won before the time limit.

Kill Confirmed hasn't been about "winning" for you guys because you know you can win at any time. It's been about stats, MOABS and camping. This game could have been won half way through, but this has been the norm to avoid tags.

Dom is about holding and defending. HQ is capping and defending. KC is about collecting and that objective is ignored. This is the kinda shit we rail Edwin for

[Slayerboi1988]

@Jloco11 to be fair it isn't about stats, i've had plenty a games on KC, TDM where i have gone negative or even, and to be fair Jloco you have been in a party with us or people that play with us and have done the same thing were you have spawned camped whether it be Domination etc.Everyone milks the cow in one way or another and to be fair i dont see nothing wrong it in since i play alot of TDM as well, people play they game how they want to play, they pay the money for it, nothing wrong in that

[Jloco11]

@Slayerboi1988 There is a difference between spawn trapping in Dom (holding 2 flags) and Kill Confirmed (killing and moving to collect a tag). I will spawn trap the hell out of teams on Dom because we only need 2 flags and kills do not matter for winning.

In Kill Confirmed kills DO matter, but you still need the tags to win. Sitting back and ignoring tags a whole game just to control the spawns is completely different considering this game was created to PREVENT this style

[Slayerboi1988]

@Jloco11 there is no difference, spawn trapping is spawn trapping no matter what game mode. If your talking about playing game modes properly, capturing all 3 flags in Dom is playing the game mode properly just like collecting the tags in KC. Any if they created the game to prevent this style, whats any different in only collecting 2 flags instead of 3?

We don't sit back and not collect tags because we still win.

[Jloco11]

@Slayerboi1988 Nobody spawn traps in TDM, nobody spawn traps in Team Defender.. and the only way to spawn trap in HQ is to sit back and wait... All 3 methods are just camping in games made for running and gunning.

To win Dom, all you need are 2 flags. But the fact is if the other team played EXACTLY how you guys play, it would be a pissing and staring match as to who moves first.

And winning with 57 tags with over 100 kills, going to time limit proves you guys play to camp

[AVxgamer]

@Slayerboi1988 I agree 100% with Loco. You don't play TDM, get 6500 points and then say "well we have a lead, we're going to win, time to ease back on the objective". You go for 7500 kills to win. This room is blatant about delaying capturing tags, to extend the game for stat padding. There is never any intent to collect 65 dog tags, it's to play 10 full minutes to get as many kills as possible.