I love that horn! Looks like a period after-market accessory not Columbia? Amplifies the sound well. It would be great to have an early Coumbia like that that only mentions New York City instead of the later "New York and Paris." Looks like some mold about the last inch or so but it doesn't affect play.
In this year 1895, it was the like our HD television, so imagine in 2060 when our kids will say ''Daddy it's easy as ever Thats like the first iPad when you was young, But It's the Physical - Holographic - Technology! :)
No electricity. You wind it up (there's a large spring inside) and set down a pickup with a mica disc in it. The stylus moves up and down, moving the mica, and finally the sound is focused through the horn.
Thanks for such a high-quality filming of this machine playing! Thank so much for using a high-quality studio microphone. Seeing that the purpose of going on Youtube or another site to view and listen to this stuff is to hear what it really sounds like, it's great that you put the effort into this video. Thanks!!
@phonatic I would not give house room for an mp3 player or iPod but i certainly would this as she is just so beautiful a music machine. Please look after her.
Im getting a 1908 flat disk gramaphone it plays flat records however all my records are from the 1980's will those types of records work on a 1908 gramaphone or do i need to buy records from the early 20th century all i know it plays 78 rpm records
In case your question is serious, no, the acoustic gramophone will only play shellac discs. The heavy weight of the reproducer and the steel needle will instantly ruin any vinyl. Also, the steel needle has to be changed after each record side or will also start to ruin the shellac records too.
This is like a time machine. You are listening to people playing instruments more thana century ago. Now I ask, did they produce the cylinders commercially? How did they make copies of them?
Of course, this machine and the record were made commercially. This 1897 cylinder was likely dubbed using a pantograph which transcribes the source cylinder mechanically to a blank. Later black wax and celluloid cylinders were made directly from a metal master derived from master (wax) record by using galvanic reproduction methods.
In general, yes but not more than an old 78rpm disc played on a period machine. It depends a lot on the reproducer's stylus, weight and room temperature.
This cylinder should allow several hundred playbacks which I am not going to take advantage of. :)
I get very, very edgy when hearing stuff from old Phonographs. I don't know why people do, maybe because its freaky, its like hearing Ghost from the past but in a very freaky way.
what's the name of the song? , i can't sleep without listening to this video. believe in me. 01:47 is killing me. i want to stop living when i hear that seconds....
I miss my collection of cylinder records and phonograph. I used to have a great dance record on a brown edison record from around 1900. Great to hear these vintage sounds on here.
The overtake by the disc was a fairly slow process. When someone bought this phonograph in 1895 he could at least obtain new 2-minute cylinders for the following 16-17 years. This phonograph was cutting edge technology in home entertainment when it was new.
I used to have this record. The chance of hearing a duplicate are very slim. Perhaps this is where the 50 Columbia BW I sold went???? This machine sounds pretty good, except for some tracking problems.
I once bought it from a collector in Iowa who said he it came in a set of 70 BW's that he had purchased in the 1970's. It could be also the same title but a different take. A waltz has much less variations and another take would not be easy to distinguish from another one.
Sometimes, the motor lacks of power but I want to keep it the original parts together.
It's an early 1890's Columbia horn. Its last appearance was in the 1897 catalog where it was priced at $6.50 - $1 cheaper than before as the fancy new spun-bell horns became more trendy.
I love that horn! Looks like a period after-market accessory not Columbia? Amplifies the sound well. It would be great to have an early Coumbia like that that only mentions New York City instead of the later "New York and Paris." Looks like some mold about the last inch or so but it doesn't affect play.
eclecticdufus 1 month ago
In this year 1895, it was the like our HD television, so imagine in 2060 when our kids will say ''Daddy it's easy as ever Thats like the first iPad when you was young, But It's the Physical - Holographic - Technology! :)
KarenRazer 4 months ago
@GoogleFascists: roll-operated player pianos weren't popular at the time this Graphophone was manufactured, in fact, they hadn't been invented yet!
shellophone 8 months ago
Amazing and very precious object.
Thanks !
Discofunkytrain 9 months ago
Good example of why player pianos were still so popular in that day.
Amazing that the records were actually much better than the machines
were to play them. Rig up a tone arm with a more modern needle
to play those old records, (the steel stylus wore the records out),
and you won't believe how great they sound!
GooglFascists 9 months ago
@GooglFascists so true and it happens with many devices
the recording quality is good, but the machines used to reproduce them aren't
funguy873 9 months ago
I am so glad that there are people like you who are maintaining these wonderful artifacts. Thank you for doing so.
Vermontist 1 year ago
What did light switches look like back then?
Batamon1997 1 year ago
@Batamon1997 You would usually have the switch directly attached to the socket. Try antiquesockets(dot)com for more details.
phonatic 1 year ago
put jay z in that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
josephgmen 1 year ago
@josephgmen NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cartoonmusicandfilm 1 year ago
@josephgmen that would start armageddon.
heathovc 1 year ago
this is my farorite video
frederik027 1 year ago
Grat looking machine playing a wonderfully rare brown wax cylinder - excellent. THanks for sharing it.
SwingBandHeaven 1 year ago
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DCR123TV 2 years ago
No electricity. You wind it up (there's a large spring inside) and set down a pickup with a mica disc in it. The stylus moves up and down, moving the mica, and finally the sound is focused through the horn.
MrXnews 2 years ago
wow this is 3 years older than my edison home 1898 and there was great advancements in three years aswell
edisonphonographfan 2 years ago
Thanks for such a high-quality filming of this machine playing! Thank so much for using a high-quality studio microphone. Seeing that the purpose of going on Youtube or another site to view and listen to this stuff is to hear what it really sounds like, it's great that you put the effort into this video. Thanks!!
ObiWanBillKenobi 2 years ago
Was this item ever appraised?
Darkgod171990 2 years ago
It's about 8 years older than mine! Compared to one from 1903, you can see the great advancements in quality made in such a small amount of time!
EnerG15 2 years ago 2
cant you people stop comparing CD and cyl;inders!!!!!!!!!!!
respect the ELDERs
rweerakkody4565 2 years ago 9
Full ack, but that's what people only know today. It's like comparing a candle with an LED.
phonatic 2 years ago 3
@phonatic What is the candle?
Carthsting 1 year ago
@phonatic I would not give house room for an mp3 player or iPod but i certainly would this as she is just so beautiful a music machine. Please look after her.
HORVATH1962 7 months ago
@rweerakkody4565 who uses cd's anymore XD
chantinginmysleep 1 year ago
@chantinginmysleep haha!!!!!
beethsonnet 1 year ago
@rweerakkody4565 Well said!
Eddy2730 1 year ago
Im getting a 1908 flat disk gramaphone it plays flat records however all my records are from the 1980's will those types of records work on a 1908 gramaphone or do i need to buy records from the early 20th century all i know it plays 78 rpm records
coolbrian15 2 years ago
In case your question is serious, no, the acoustic gramophone will only play shellac discs. The heavy weight of the reproducer and the steel needle will instantly ruin any vinyl. Also, the steel needle has to be changed after each record side or will also start to ruin the shellac records too.
phonatic 2 years ago
Where did you get this?
woody558 2 years ago 2
The phonograph is from a record and machine fair where many enthusiasts are gathering.
phonatic 2 years ago
For such an early machine I think it plays quite well! Do you play this machine often? How many main springs are in the motor?
Thanks
edisonphonographs 2 years ago
As far is I know there is only a single mainspring in that motor, but it's quite wide.
I don't play it that often to reduce stress on the rawhide leather gear which gladly is still intact at 100%.
phonatic 2 years ago
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i dont think thats funny dont take his name in vain
edisonphonographfan 2 years ago
JESUS THAT'S ONE BIG ASS HORN
hahaha
mynameisbackwards 2 years ago
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Its so different sound if its compare with blue Ray Disc...
Raven00088888 2 years ago
Why do you keep comparing these recordings with Blu-Ray?
It is a totally different thing.
NESHero 2 years ago 3
This is like a time machine. You are listening to people playing instruments more thana century ago. Now I ask, did they produce the cylinders commercially? How did they make copies of them?
cobolsaurus 3 years ago 2
Of course, this machine and the record were made commercially. This 1897 cylinder was likely dubbed using a pantograph which transcribes the source cylinder mechanically to a blank. Later black wax and celluloid cylinders were made directly from a metal master derived from master (wax) record by using galvanic reproduction methods.
phonatic 2 years ago
would u sell it
phonographedison 3 years ago
Doesn't the cylinder degrade with every play?
cobolsaurus 3 years ago
In general, yes but not more than an old 78rpm disc played on a period machine. It depends a lot on the reproducer's stylus, weight and room temperature.
This cylinder should allow several hundred playbacks which I am not going to take advantage of. :)
phonatic 3 years ago
What an atmosphere!
Afro70s 3 years ago
I get very, very edgy when hearing stuff from old Phonographs. I don't know why people do, maybe because its freaky, its like hearing Ghost from the past but in a very freaky way.
bravo45th 3 years ago
what's the name of the song? , i can't sleep without listening to this video. believe in me. 01:47 is killing me. i want to stop living when i hear that seconds....
jimihendrix1967 3 years ago
It's in the video description, go figure...
phonatic 3 years ago
Fascinating!
cant7think7clearly 3 years ago
I miss my collection of cylinder records and phonograph. I used to have a great dance record on a brown edison record from around 1900. Great to hear these vintage sounds on here.
payless1981 3 years ago
I have a fable for the the pre-1900 recordings too. You really can hear the performer's excitement coming of the horn.
phonatic 3 years ago
I have exactly one brown wax cylinder in my collection... Thanks for posting this one!
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Rolf, Netherlands.
I am a collector of classical 78's and lp's
Click "otterhouse" above to see (and hear!)
some of my collection.
otterhouse 3 years ago
I bet people who had bought a lot of cylinders were really annoyed when the format changed to wax platters.
Fuliginosus 3 years ago
The overtake by the disc was a fairly slow process. When someone bought this phonograph in 1895 he could at least obtain new 2-minute cylinders for the following 16-17 years. This phonograph was cutting edge technology in home entertainment when it was new.
phonatic 3 years ago
I love hearing the primitive sounds of a brown wax record. Thanks for putting it up for everyone to hear....
linuspop 3 years ago 8
I really does not get a lot more primitive than that. :)
phonatic 3 years ago
I used to have this record. The chance of hearing a duplicate are very slim. Perhaps this is where the 50 Columbia BW I sold went???? This machine sounds pretty good, except for some tracking problems.
darksound1973 3 years ago
I once bought it from a collector in Iowa who said he it came in a set of 70 BW's that he had purchased in the 1970's. It could be also the same title but a different take. A waltz has much less variations and another take would not be easy to distinguish from another one.
Sometimes, the motor lacks of power but I want to keep it the original parts together.
phonatic 3 years ago
WOW...
what a cool horn
I've never seen one like that
very nice.... : )
RagtimeFreak86 4 years ago
It's an early 1890's Columbia horn. Its last appearance was in the 1897 catalog where it was priced at $6.50 - $1 cheaper than before as the fancy new spun-bell horns became more trendy.
Will check your great videos too. :)
phonatic 4 years ago