9. Nietzsche Lecture: The Will to Power: Section 1: Notes 1-7

[MrPiccolop]

Tut tut! Lecturer disturbing the class... double standards i say!! LOOLL

[chickenwretch]

Not sure if I get the humour here; is he serious? Man, I hope not.

[drjasonjcampbell]

@rammsteingod666 LOLOLOLOLOL!!! Nice...despite the warning, I would probably have a drawer filled with petrified multicolored fingers! :-)

[thepatshowonwp]

God commands us to obey his commands, then he gives commands that conflict with each other as well as what we have been taught--surely he must know we know the difference and that this in itself can be seen as an imperfection/weakness/collapse­. We've all been taught that we cannot know the mind of God, but if the command theory is what it is we don't need to know, we can see for ourselves. I think this freaks theists out.

[CettoTheCesco]

@thepatshowonwp I think there is a misunderstanding here, it seems that people think that there is a contradiction between a man murdering another man by his own will and God using a man to take another man's life. The commandments say "YOU shall not murder" but it never says God cannot by his own means take away someone's life lol since that would be dumb, if God is the giver of all life in this world surely then he can take it away as well.

[GHETTOPOCOHOTASS]

cosmogonical

[drjasonjcampbell]

@GHETTOPOCOHOTASS LOL!! Say that 10x fast...

[Ubernoob85]

Wasn't logos developed by the Stoics who were pantheist to describe universal logic or order? It seems strange to me that Christians might use the term to define "the word of God." Unless they wanted to associate the Word with Logic itself... hmm.

[colourmegone]

A minor criticism, you use the term "theist" seemingly within the strictures of Christianity but "theist" is a much broader term, e.g. there are Muslim and Hindu theists who have no conception of Logos and would find the concept heretical.

[drjasonjcampbell]

@colourmegone That's a good point. Ur absolutely right about the use of the word theist....I wonder if logos is uniquely Christian then? Thanks for the attentive ear.

[andyvinstra]

If God didn't want us to think why the hell did he give us brains? I hear Christians say things such as "you can be so open minded you have no mind" or as G.K. Chesterton says "the mind opens so it can close upon something solid" but I vehemently disagree. When you open you're mind you only reclose it tentatively - at least this is the ideal of the scientific method. We may open our minds to plunge through open space but so what? The scientist and explorer does what he/she has to do.

[mephatboi]

i guess a monotheist might argue that we humans should not attempt to understand things that r beyond us (we will understand all if we get to heaven); we must be humble and accept/surrender to God's divine laws.

i know theologians throughout the centuries have given explanations for the abraham killing thing but i guess N wasnt persuaded (or is that ur own example)?

the point is i think theists would say N is looking @the wrong place for answers (his own mind) instead of believing in God.

[drjasonjcampbell]

@mephatboi Really good point. The example is mine. But I use it to try and demonstrate the logical difficulty in subscribing to the Divine Command theory. This is what's unnerving Nietzsche and partly why he does away with religious devotion.