I think to try a flute it's not enough to play short passages and change after 30 second. When I try out a flute I play a scale (slowly!), to try every note, try articulation, try extrem forte and piano....ect
I've never heard of Orpheo and can only imagine it is a chinese instrument. It may sound as lovely as a mirmatsu, but the day it breaks is the day your going to find out you got what you paid for. Cheaper materials, parts that can't be duplicated or found, easily bent or broken metal parts. If you want a cheaper flute that sounds nice add a couple hundred bucks and stick with a gemeinhardt or a jupiter. At least the known brands can be repaired by a tech.
Thanks for putting the time into this. I was looking for a comparison between a Yamaha and a Pearl so I could decide which sound I liked the most. This was helpful.
I own a Orpheo 615RBE which cost me 150.00 and I am not upset with my purchase. It sounds way better than a lot of stuff out there. I mean I think it is a little unfair to compare it to the pearl which costs way more. Personally I thought it sounded better than the yamaha.
Yamaha's open hole models are way better than the student model you played on. I personally prefer Yamaha over all. Orpheo isn't that well known nor that great... Pearl gets the job done, but they aren't anything great. Yamahas are reliable & great for the price.
Hello, are you buying an open hole Orpheo or you want to use a closed hole Orpheo as a practice flute to get used to the open hole flute on the side? The ONLY good Orpheo flutes were their closed hole model with pointed keys. EVERYTHING ELSE (including the 715, 615, closed hole, etc.) is trash and I wouldn't even get one to use as a lamp! Good luck!
Hi, if you can get one for, say $99, I would I suppose but anything higher I wouldn't even bother. For $100 or a little more you can get one that'd be better quality that you can actually USE as a backup if needed. Good luck!
Continued.... Another issue I have with this comparison is the performance factor. I can get on a cheap flute and make it sound good. If you try out a good flute and a proflute made of the same material, and used the same headjoint on both, both flute would sound identical. We will not even get into the factor of the recoding environment and the microphone! All in all, it was a dirty job and someone had to do it. Thanks for doing it!
For some reason I'm not getting notifications on here pertaining to comments to my videos. To each their own regarding my performance "factor" per each video as I don't sit around and prepare to do some sort of comparison and do so mostly for a general comparison just for my own archiving. For the record my Pearl had a PH-7 headjoint NOT the Forza so it was basically a stock-based flute comparison, nothing more nothing less!
Its cool, I did not mean it as an attack. I am just long winded...lol I have often thought about doing comparisons of my own, but just never had the time. I thought the comparison was cool.
As a Pearl owner, and an Orpheo flute owner, I really think comparing a Dolce to an Orpheo 615 is quite an unfair comparison. Of course the Dolce is a better flute over all. The Dolce has the Pearl pinless mechanism, and the Forze headjoint standard. The Orpheo does not. The Orpheo 615 would have compared better with a Jupiter 611, or a Pearl Quantz 665. Either way, it was a dirty job and someone had to do it!...continued
Yamahas: overpriced and factory made, pearls: good, :gemeinhard: better for professional grade than a student grade, BUT I have a jupiter 507S and I'm a beginner and I love it. So what about a Jupiter? I think they're a good brand.
Well, excuse me, maybe not OVERPRICED, but a little more expensive than other flute brands. Yah a lot of people love yamaha, BUT, to me, it just reminds me of motorcycles. That and they're too standardized.
Personally from buying and selling flutes I can tell you that from bottom to top price-wise is Gemeinhardt, Jupiter, Pearl & Yamaha. Gemeinhardt's older flute models from the 1990s were MUCH better than the "products" they're producing today and I refuse to buy or sell any Gemeinhardt products (unless it's a well-playing piccolo) made from 2000-current as they quality has gone downhill and this is a 100% FACT! Yamaha & Pearl student flutes usually sell for about $300 & Gem.+Jup. being -$200.
I agree completely! I love mine but they're all different and I've tried other Pearl Dolce's (even with my own headjoint) that were properly set up but sounded dead.
I wouldn't suggest Yamaha for anyone, to be honest. They're factory produced and have a lot of problems with corks. All the Yamaha's I've known are EXTREMELY sharp; so unless you play VERY loose, I don't suggest it. But that's me. >>
next time pleease please explain in the mike which flute is which, so we can tell which flute is which, I hear you put down 1 flute and pick up another but which is which you know?
IMO flute #3 sounded the best overall. Flute #2 sounded great but had "clicky" keys. I'm most surprised that flute #1 was a Yamaha, it sounded much more airy to me. Thank you so much for doing this demo! What is your opinion of the Orpheo overall?
I kept accidentally pressing something on flute #1 (Yamaha 225S) which was messing up a few notes. Flute #2= Orpheo 615RBE [clanky keys] & flute #3= Pearl Dolce. Maybe I'll make a better video after practicing some lol.
Pearl sound good
ThaidaermClassic 1 week ago
I played well!!!
pyrioni 10 months ago
I like Pearl better, sounds better.
pyrioni 10 months ago
yamaha 281 fly excelent
purrusco 1 year ago
I liked the Pearl flute best, second is Yamaha. In my opinion the Orpheo is far behind them.
But it is not really fair comparing a Yamaha 225S to the Pearl Dolce which is at least double the price...;-)
TanjaE83 1 year ago
They all sound good (because you play well).
jazzflutist 1 year ago
@jazzflutist thanks!
foreverwoodwinds 1 year ago
I think to try a flute it's not enough to play short passages and change after 30 second. When I try out a flute I play a scale (slowly!), to try every note, try articulation, try extrem forte and piano....ect
VeronikaCsajagi 2 years ago
I've never heard of Orpheo and can only imagine it is a chinese instrument. It may sound as lovely as a mirmatsu, but the day it breaks is the day your going to find out you got what you paid for. Cheaper materials, parts that can't be duplicated or found, easily bent or broken metal parts. If you want a cheaper flute that sounds nice add a couple hundred bucks and stick with a gemeinhardt or a jupiter. At least the known brands can be repaired by a tech.
pegsbored 2 years ago
It is spell Muramatsu moron! You sure seem to know your flute stuff! NOT!
Rexicanoo 2 years ago
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jenamie88 1 year ago
It was obviously a typo. You are smart!
Rexicanoo 1 year ago
Thanks for putting the time into this. I was looking for a comparison between a Yamaha and a Pearl so I could decide which sound I liked the most. This was helpful.
bryanhur 2 years ago
I own a Orpheo 615RBE which cost me 150.00 and I am not upset with my purchase. It sounds way better than a lot of stuff out there. I mean I think it is a little unfair to compare it to the pearl which costs way more. Personally I thought it sounded better than the yamaha.
Framus89 2 years ago
If you think a junk Orpheo sounds better then you must really suck at flute playing and have a very poor embouchure!
Rexicanoo 2 years ago
Yamaha's open hole models are way better than the student model you played on. I personally prefer Yamaha over all. Orpheo isn't that well known nor that great... Pearl gets the job done, but they aren't anything great. Yamahas are reliable & great for the price.
maggiemexiface 2 years ago
The first set of the clip, if the third one is Orpheo, then sound are much better then Pearl and Yamaha ??
klajai 2 years ago
Flute #1 (Yamaha 225S) which was messing up a few notes. Flute #2= Orpheo 615RBE [clanky keys] & flute #3= Pearl Dolce.
foreverwoodwinds 2 years ago
hey
im buying a ophero to just practice to get used to the open hole, im not buying it for it to be my personal flute
do u think its good enough to use just for practice? [$99] is how much it cost atm
pplease and thank you :D
julyanation20 2 years ago
Hello, are you buying an open hole Orpheo or you want to use a closed hole Orpheo as a practice flute to get used to the open hole flute on the side? The ONLY good Orpheo flutes were their closed hole model with pointed keys. EVERYTHING ELSE (including the 715, 615, closed hole, etc.) is trash and I wouldn't even get one to use as a lamp! Good luck!
foreverwoodwinds 2 years ago
i mean like practicing getting used to open hole.......till september....because thats when im getting my REAL flute [:
julyanation20 2 years ago
Hi, if you can get one for, say $99, I would I suppose but anything higher I wouldn't even bother. For $100 or a little more you can get one that'd be better quality that you can actually USE as a backup if needed. Good luck!
foreverwoodwinds 2 years ago
do you know how much the yamaha 211s should be im looking at getting on and i dont want to get ripped off xxxxx
jaszan20 2 years ago
Continued.... Another issue I have with this comparison is the performance factor. I can get on a cheap flute and make it sound good. If you try out a good flute and a proflute made of the same material, and used the same headjoint on both, both flute would sound identical. We will not even get into the factor of the recoding environment and the microphone! All in all, it was a dirty job and someone had to do it. Thanks for doing it!
phineashenshaw 2 years ago
For some reason I'm not getting notifications on here pertaining to comments to my videos. To each their own regarding my performance "factor" per each video as I don't sit around and prepare to do some sort of comparison and do so mostly for a general comparison just for my own archiving. For the record my Pearl had a PH-7 headjoint NOT the Forza so it was basically a stock-based flute comparison, nothing more nothing less!
foreverwoodwinds 2 years ago
Its cool, I did not mean it as an attack. I am just long winded...lol I have often thought about doing comparisons of my own, but just never had the time. I thought the comparison was cool.
phineashenshaw 2 years ago
As a Pearl owner, and an Orpheo flute owner, I really think comparing a Dolce to an Orpheo 615 is quite an unfair comparison. Of course the Dolce is a better flute over all. The Dolce has the Pearl pinless mechanism, and the Forze headjoint standard. The Orpheo does not. The Orpheo 615 would have compared better with a Jupiter 611, or a Pearl Quantz 665. Either way, it was a dirty job and someone had to do it!...continued
phineashenshaw 2 years ago
Yamahas: overpriced and factory made, pearls: good, :gemeinhard: better for professional grade than a student grade, BUT I have a jupiter 507S and I'm a beginner and I love it. So what about a Jupiter? I think they're a good brand.
manicjupiterflute 3 years ago
I don't think that yamahas are overpriced :(, they are very stable and honest flutes. Even more so, they have real good potential concearning sound.
houtblazer 3 years ago
Well, excuse me, maybe not OVERPRICED, but a little more expensive than other flute brands. Yah a lot of people love yamaha, BUT, to me, it just reminds me of motorcycles. That and they're too standardized.
manicjupiterflute 3 years ago
My friend, you have it all backwards!
Pearl and Yamaha flutes are modestly priced and great quality flutes!
Jupiter and Gemeinhardt are the lower qualities flutes that I wouldn't recommend.
FenAllo1 2 years ago
Personally from buying and selling flutes I can tell you that from bottom to top price-wise is Gemeinhardt, Jupiter, Pearl & Yamaha. Gemeinhardt's older flute models from the 1990s were MUCH better than the "products" they're producing today and I refuse to buy or sell any Gemeinhardt products (unless it's a well-playing piccolo) made from 2000-current as they quality has gone downhill and this is a 100% FACT! Yamaha & Pearl student flutes usually sell for about $300 & Gem.+Jup. being -$200.
foreverwoodwinds 2 years ago
i have a pearl dolce...its worth buying trust me!!!
ankeburley 3 years ago 2
I agree completely! I love mine but they're all different and I've tried other Pearl Dolce's (even with my own headjoint) that were properly set up but sounded dead.
foreverwoodwinds 2 years ago
thankyou for making this comparison, your demonstration gives me a clear path of which flute I should choose.
Freyaloulou 3 years ago
But remember that your embrochure is different...
I wouldn't suggest Yamaha for anyone, to be honest. They're factory produced and have a lot of problems with corks. All the Yamaha's I've known are EXTREMELY sharp; so unless you play VERY loose, I don't suggest it. But that's me. >>
beanie021 3 years ago
what song are you playing at 6:00?
smtiell 3 years ago
next time pleease please explain in the mike which flute is which, so we can tell which flute is which, I hear you put down 1 flute and pick up another but which is which you know?
bonerici 3 years ago
I like the 3rd one...
How much did you pay for it??
Doombah91 3 years ago
3rd = Pearl Dolce = $2400
foreverwoodwinds 3 years ago
Which flute is the third one?
Renee11123 3 years ago
Pearl Dolce
foreverwoodwinds 3 years ago
IMO flute #3 sounded the best overall. Flute #2 sounded great but had "clicky" keys. I'm most surprised that flute #1 was a Yamaha, it sounded much more airy to me. Thank you so much for doing this demo! What is your opinion of the Orpheo overall?
pennsylvaniaflutist 3 years ago
I´m not able to say which is which, but I think I prefer the sound of the 3rd one when I listen to them. Which is it??
YoNoLoHice 3 years ago
I kept accidentally pressing something on flute #1 (Yamaha 225S) which was messing up a few notes. Flute #2= Orpheo 615RBE [clanky keys] & flute #3= Pearl Dolce. Maybe I'll make a better video after practicing some lol.
Shakiki 3 years ago
I would be very hard pressed to choose among them! -Dennis
wdciii 3 years ago