and if we put that much money into our economy we'd not be in a recession.... or the flood relief... helping people is good, but when we're not in a possition to help ourselves... it's just stupid.
Fantastic to see Paul speak against this government, when hes going on about the x factor mumbo jumbo he is talking to his viewers, who fall into that demograph.
If you stand with Paul in opposition of these cuts please, please search Youtube for 'captain ska liar liar' and see how you can make a difference this Christmas through a superb protest song that will give its proceeds to charity. Stand up, be counted and together we can make a difference.
This government has no mandate to do what it is doing. The reason the Tories had no majority is because we remember the mess they made of the country last time they were in power. This government was helped into power by the Lib Dems who also had no mandate or they wouldn't have made stupid promises they wouldn't keep. The student protests are only the first of many and it's about time too. March is the big one.
@reddeviljp Labour left a £170 billion deficit - thats £5000 a second that the Government has to borrow because of years and years of irresponsible and reckless spending to bribe their natural supporters. The fact is Labour made a complete mess of the country. And much of what they spent on was a total waste of money. ( Britain has fallen massively down the international league table in educational achievment) . I welcome the coalitions attempt to put us on the right track.
@darkarts59 You Tories may welcome what you want but you still have no mandate to change anything. Labour's spending produced jobs, Gideon's cutting will produce unemployment. Don't expect those people to put up with your analysis and that's without mentioning the cost of bailing out the banks.
The Lib Dem's are your human shield but the Tories will not be forgotten..
Why were Police there if it was a peaceful protest? It's not like the 30000 students were unsafe in the city! They were put there quite on purpose to bait the violence that took the spotlight in the media. It was so their actual message would be ignored.
Remember that news story where Police killed an man by causing cardiac arrest as he walked past a protest by needlessly attacking him? Things like that are always covered up. Just so they can do it again...
Dumping the backlash of this "imaginary economic termoil" we're in on Students is an act of Genocide! Bankers do nothing but profit, and the corporations support the MP's to push their agenda.
Our country has advanced in science, language, art and everything within our culture because of our ability to learn! This will only be stunted by this Government!
It's hypocrisy from the Government, yet again! When they don't like something, it's acceptable to invade a country, i.e Iraq, Afghanistan and soon to be Pakistan...
BUT people in our own country are baited into violence by the Police and the peaceful protestors message is completely ignored.
We are far from free. THIS GOVERNMENT IS RAPING THE COUNTRY!
Who voted for the Tories? Obviously most people who did are upper-class but I know a lot of people complaining about the fees increase who voted for them. I also know a lot of people who didn't even vote and are complaining.
I HATE the thought of paying so much for Uni but people need to make sure the do not vote Tories ..
@HurricaneDominic the upper class are a small amount of people so even if they all voted it would make little affect. to make this a class issue is disgusting. people from all across the class spectum voted for them.
Paul's spot on. Can't believe I supported the Lib Dems - I knew they'd have to compromise to form a coalition, but the lengths they've gone to are way too far on this. I expected compromises around the edges, not the pledges they built the party around!
Not that I'd vote Labour or Tory either... I'd vote Green if I could, but they don't stand in my constituency.
It's kinda easy to blame the government for increasing the tuition fee without having any clue about how much money does a uni need for just one year. The argue about this stuff is bullshit. We do a lot of non sense talking without actually know what's behind their decision. Of course everyone wants the uni to be free for everyone but we live in the real world where if you want a quality product you have to pay more for it. Also the "Mickey Mouse courses" should've been out already imho. Cheers
I know people are saying you can earn money and uni is a choice but without uni you wouldnt have doctors, vets, scienctist who are finding the cure for cancer. Uni is part of a young adults future, and including my family we are having to cut back on lots of things to help pay for my sisters uni. Job hunting is hard and she is getting lots of declines because every student wants a job! So everyone can fuck off, i agree with paul its wrong to raise prices we cant afford these higher prices...
So they raised it from £4,000 to £12,000, so there's clearly a problem. Sure you don't pay upfront and you pay back after time, but the £8000 extra means something.
Lol, Tories. Bunch of English Twats who want the working class to stay working class. Yeah, I'm sure they'll "wipe" them after 20 years and make sure you don't pay anything until you're earning £21000. That'll happen.
@gingermadman you and anybody that calls the tories anti poor people is just stupid. do really think david cameron and any torie HONESTLY has some kind of hate of working class people. thats just u trying to said the whole world is against us. poor me poor me. wake up people
@mip0212 Yeah what we need to wake up to is ludicrously one-sided views like yours. When Tories talk about "hard work" (and my god do they use that phrase constantly), do you never stop to think "the hardest work that lot do all day is answer a telephone or open a briefcase". The simple fact is Tories don't DO hard work, they take the profits of someone ELSE'S hard work.
@JanineRobin yeah everyone like you throws insults at tories but are not looking the the problem. in the real world people will have to pay from their tax for free education. meaning everyone young or old who did or did not go to uni wil have to pay. when your 55 you will be paying for kids you dont know and will never meet for there education. why should millions of poor working old men who never when uni pay for somthing that does not effect him. why should uni be above policing health etc
@mip0212 No, in a fair world the poor would not be paying for education. The ultra-rich would be funding it with a tax to a fraction of their obscene wealth.
@JanineRobin go ask a grown man at his door for money for your higher education and when he says no, ask him for money for local policing, energy, health care and see what he is prepare to give his own money to.
@mip0212 Although presumably a large proportion of the people providing any good, solid energy and health services will have the skills and expertise necessary to do so through going to university and gaining a good higher education. The less people that can afford to do that, the poorer those services become, no matter how much money he throws at the practitioners directly.
@mip0212 They're not anti-poor, they just focus too much on their own benefits when others who suffer much more really need them. In my opinion the working class are made to make sacrifices for the good of the country, while the more fortunate people are occasionally docked a minimal percentage of money that they wont even need so that to the conservative dominated press can make it look like we're all in the same situation.
@scaryninja1693 look life is tough, its not a ideal world but politics will never please 100% of the people it is impossible so it has to look after the many not the few and the many (working people with fair or adove wages) will not think its fair their money will go into something that not everybody uses and when they do only for a max of 3 or something years. Do you get that in the whole grand scheme of things uni is not as important to fund than other things. education is free until uni.
@mip0212 So what is in your grand scheme of things more important than universities, hospitals? police? perhaps a valid argument that more people need these services than people need universities, but where do doctors and important police chiefs receive the knowledge needed to reach these positions? I obviously agree its not an ideal world and that you cant please everyone, but the working people will want more opportunities for their own children,there are things we can afford to sacrifice more
people have forgotten that uni is a option not a need. you can earn good money without going to uni so this whole "the poor staying poor" thing is stupid. when all students grow up to be 50 or above will they still want to pay for uni. no of course not they have there own bills to pay. there tax payers money should not go to pay for everyones higher education. health, police, defence, business, energy, transport are examples of where money HAS to go because they are more important for EVERYONE
"Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. "
@mip0212 Paul wasn't really condoning violence, he's just made a joke - and how do you know it was some rich kid who threw the fire extinguisher? "Who said just because Uni used to be free does not mean it was right" - one finishes university and in this economic climate not only has to pay for rent/ mortgage, raise a family etc but also pay back more than £ 30K of debt. Could you afford it? Education should be a right, not a privilege for little spoiled brainless gits like yourself
@phyrrusvox i know u fool because i watch, read and listen to the news. clearly u dont so what the hell are u out of all people talking about news. weirdo.
@phyrrusvox i am informed you tosser. i guess you read some far left trash and you call call ur self informed. you joke, replying comments like that makes you the biggest snob as well ill minded thug who would thrash my house so i can be make to SEE IT UR WAY. piss off low life go get yourself a job and stop relying on others little child. my opinion is fair and not nasty unlike urs. next time u comment behind the safety of you computer PLAY NICELY or i tell ur parents about ur poor manners.
Education, including University education, should be free for all. Education frees the masses so that's why tuition fees were introduced. The establishment don't want social mobility, they see it as a threat. Labour should be ashamed for introducing fees, and so should the Lib Dems and Tories for raising them to £6k.
@19STU84 hmmm... and how exactly do you propose we pay for this entirely free university education? You are talking nonsense, it is impossible in modern day britian.
You are completed deluded and do not live in the real world, much like the students who protest last week.
@Kozzy06 I don't see why its impossible in modern Britain. There are other ways such as higher taxation on the super rich, a tax on people who have already benefited from free university education (such as our hypocritical MPs), or more of a financial contribution from big business who after all will benefit from students when they graduate.
The super rich already pay over 50% in taxes. Besides, they don't have shitty media and psychology degrees. Only the worthwhile degrees should be paid for by the tax payer
He's SO right about the XFactor votes. People are too court up with their pathetic bullshit like these stupid, forever ongoing, TV shows, they are forgetting thats really importent. How is democracy supposed to work if the only people still bothering to vote are the 55+ group? The USA is heading for a revolution, and so is England if things carry on like this.
if only you knew me as a person, the course i did and the job i do. u stupid troll. yeah throw insults at me because you have lost the debate so resort to what to do best. Violence.
and some rich kid was the one who threw the fire extinguisher. again what the fuck i doubt he cares about the uni fees, he just came because he thought it would look cool if he smashed some windows and try and kill someone. being a criminal is soooo cool. breaking the law, breaking the law sounds so much better when it is in a song. and by the way i just finish uni so i not some random person making unfounded comments.
You are all so stupid supporting paul comments . acting like thugs is not cool, being anti goverment is not cool. it was just violence for violence sake. eductation should be free. what a stupid comment, eductaion is free for everyone under 18 but uni is different. if it was for free who would pay for it, we all would out of our tax, even if millions of us dont go to uni. remember money has to be generated from somewhere to pay for it. stupid far left fantasy. my water supply should be free. FU
@BooMers232 even a bloody stupid 17 year was there smashing a window with a taken police cap. What the fuck was it he doing there. little prick go and play like a good kid
@mip0212 University Education was free until relatively recently - it was free under Thatcher. Uni is not different, you pay for bombs with your tax, you pay for health out of tax, refuse collection, water, policing, fire service etc why not education? This wasn't violence for violence sake. FU
why people get mad over him supporting something...its 9grand for ONE year of uni...u guna take a 3 year course and spend 27grand you dont have? then be in 30grand debt before you even have a job? you got a better chance getin pregnant at 16 and livin in a cancil house and livin of that money
True. Although I don't see why British Students have to pay for their education and Scottish Students get it all free? Rather than do stupid protests like this they need to march on number ten, thye need to lobby their MP's for change. Violence will not work at all.
@darrenmsparrow Just to point out, English students could go to Uni in Scotland, and still only pay roughly 1,750 a year at most. Unless the SNP cave to Westminster. So you could always come up here to study
It is usually forbidden to march to number 10, (since Thatcher erected the gates there anyway), so Tory HQ probably seemed the next viable alternative.
@69salford69 he wasn't one of you, so get your facts right, Ian Tomlinson wasn't on the protest, he was on his way to the pub after work. Wrong place wrong time, of course if you lot (as you like to refer to yourself) hadn't been there, Ian would still be alive today... Hang your head in shame...
Yeah exactly. He was an innocent man. Just like the pig who could have been killed by the fire extinguisher - INNOCENT. The point is millions used to die in World Wars a revolution is coming soon and thousands will die. I hope Dave Cameron is one of them
@millard27 BBC impartial? What planet are you on? The BBC is run by a socialist underbelly, I can point to transgressions including internal memo's sent to BBC staff telling them not to twitter their personal views.
Do a search for Biased BBC, get your news from proper news sites and not from the mainstream. Sky & BBC are the two most bias news sites in the UK.
The BBC even announced that they are bias on religion back in 2006...
How many of those whooping and cheering in the audience bothered to vote? Where was O'Grady when his beloved Labour party broke their promise not to introduce fees in the first place? Where was he when they then tripled them to £3000?
This is lazy, pathetic populist nonsense from O'Grady.
You don't pay back a single penny of tuition fees until you earn £21,000 so let's not pretend low earners or the unemployed are going to be scraping around trying to get their fees together.
@bobrudge61 Hang on. The point isn't about paying it back, it's about the amount. How on earth can anyone say that paying back MORE is making things easier for students from poorer backgrounds.
I am currently £10k in debt, and I'm only on my 2nd year at University. I am living at home, I have two part time jobs and I'm struggling. It's an absolute disgrace how the poor have been priced out of education, whilst the rest have them paid by Daddy
@AntonyShimminlfc How are the poor priced out of education? That's nonsense rhetoric. You don't pay a penny back unless you earn over £21,000 a year - at which point I hardly think you can be described as poor.
At present you start paying back at £15,000.
The fact is that the poorest 25% of students will actually be better off under the new system. Those that go on to get the best paying jobs will pay back more under the new system.
@bobrudge61Why should anyone have to take out a loan especially of that magnitude for education? If you can afford it fine, but if you can't. It's not about 'paying it back in the future' It's having to pay back what is effectively a mortgage. It's a financial burden for everyone, pass or fail. It's putting thousands of people off higher education. A Lost generation.
Tell me. How would it have been easier for me/the poorer going to Uni paying £9k a year, as opposed to £3.5k a year?
@Meekelo Bloody hell, they arent paying it back all at once you moron. They on average will pay back a WHOPPING %2 of thier monthly wage, only after they earn more than 21k a year.
Students have lost all sympathy from the vast majority of the country after the 'protests'
How DARE students think the UK taxpayer should pay for thier CHOICE to study further education?
@Kozzy06 I wasn't involved in this protest but the rise in the amount of money that it will cost me to go to university has changed my life decisions which I'm not happy about. I originally planned on having a working gap year after finising my A-levels and rest from the stresses of education and gain experience but I'm having to apply to go to university next year instead as it will be a lot harder for me to fund starting uni in 2012.
@Meekelo What?! You really think that when you earn £21,000 they take the full £9,000 back straight away? This is the sort of nonsense that exactly proves my point about the lack of knowledge from people whooping and cheering O'Grady along.
Once you earn £21,000 a year, you START paying back the loan as a percentage of your salary OVER £21k.
How can we have a debate when people don't even know what they're talking about.
FINALLY someone else in the world with any sense! its only a small percentage of what you earn too. I see it as if you want to go to univercity, you can pay it back by paying slightly more tax. People who earn £50000 pay about 40% tax anyway! Your the only person so far thats spoken any bloody sense on the matter!
@linkkpzz234 Sense? Sense? Whats so sensible about paying 3 times the amount currently for a degree. You pay back your loan plus interest. With maintenance loans you're looking at paying £40k a year + INTEREST.
Your interest goes up the longer you're out of work.
What would your message be to the poorer in society who have the talent but not the means?
Remember degrees are full time. There are no jobs, and it's hard enough getting by as it is.
There is too much of a 'I'm alright Jack' attitude
@AntonyShimminlfc I said he makes sense, not the government. But we are the ones getting the education and that, why should tax payers fork more of the bill for our education? And it is still massively knocked down to what it should cost if we were to fund the entire course ourselves. I am one of the ones poorer in society, and i cannot say it doesnt bother me having to pay more but everyone else is making sacrifices, why should we be immune. And why riot? riots=damage=higher taxes!
@linkkpzz234 Where do you stop? Why should people without kids pay tax for schools? Etc. Tax Payers should fork the bill because it's good for the economy. Education is good for the country, we should be encouraging this countries brightest talents to prosper, not to be lost because of finances.
The money spent on students will be paid back and then some by those in higher paid jobs.
@AntonyShimminlfc Where on earth do you get £40k a year from, that's ridiculous.
Obviously it would be better of the fees were lower or did not exist. My personal view is that fees should be abolished. The point I am making, however, is that a lot of people have jumped on the bandwagon of this without knowing the facts.
It's disingenuous to talk about the poor not being able to afford Uni because you do not pay until you earn a decent salary. So if you stay poor, you don't actually pay.
@bobrudge61 Apologies I meant £40k for a degree + Interests.
But once more you're missing the point. The whole point of going to University is to be able to demand a higher fee and have potentially a better quality of life.
If the poor stay poor, surely that means the tuition fees are wasted and Uni's are not doing there jobs. The longer they are out of work, the more the interest goes up.
Education should not come with a financial burden as big as £9k a year for a degree pass or fail
@bobrudge61 Mate do not be fucking patronizing when you are out of your depth. But if you are on 21 grand a year the last thing you need is to have to be paying more than tax, mortgage, insurance etc. I am not an idiot so never treat me like one.
You are acting like an idiot, the point is why should students have to face the repercussions of stuff they had nothing to do with? In what world do you live in? Because where I'm from if you fuck up you pay for it not your offspring.
They don't. All they have to do is pay for the education that they get. It's simple. If you earn £21,000 a year, it is no bother paying back the full amount of student loans. Only proper degrees should be payed for by the tax payer. No humanities, media, psychology or useless degrees! The fact is, if you want to go to uni, you have to pay, there is nothing that anyone can do about it.
@bobrudge61 why should the fees go up in the first place? this another way of the government forwarding the cost towards the public. especially the middle class. they are keeping there big fat MP salaries but try to charge up education fees?? that doesnt make any sense
@bobrudge61 just because you don't have to pay back your loans utill you earn£21,000 doesn't mean everyone will be able to pay it back or even get a job earning £21,000. Many students leave uni with huge debts and still no work.
Education should not depend on wealth these days, just because the Tories are in government doesn't not mean we should go back to the times where people were separated into classes based on there wealth.
@sillyshaz Do you even read what you write? If you don't earn £21k then you don't have to pay anything back, so how can your argument be - "oh some people don't get a job or don't earn £21k" - well those people don't have to pay a penny of the fees back.
@bobrudge61 and who will pay back what isn't payed by the students in the long run? the tax payers! so do you want to pay more taxes because students can't pay back their loans? the government expect that budget cuts to sort everything but its the tax payer that lose out in the long run
@bobrudge61 the government is what cut the funding to the universities in the first place, what is they're problem which allowing the poorer people have a chance at further education and improving their skills and knowledge allowing them to better themselves?? £3000 was a fair enough price and some what affordable.
@bobrudge61 I agree on the audiences part, but the fact he feels strongly on this matter has a lot less to do with what party he supports
Did the Tories come right out and say they were going to screw students over in their campaign? No.
Did the Lib Dems give people a false sense of security about student fees? Yes.
It's not populist nonsense, everyone should have the right to education not just well off families. Labour introducing and increasing fees is old news, people have adapted.
@LolAllen95 For some reason everyone seems to forget a very crucial point during election time, in all the hype we lose focus. The point is, whatever the politician is saying, there is an 85-90% chance that it's a grade A lie. However when Labour lie its because they haven't got a clue what they're doing so they end up screwing us all over equally, the Tories however lie because they know we wont like it when they screw over the poor and the rich just get slightly less pocket money.
sooo happy some support was on the television, 37 people arrested however there was 50,000 PEACEFUL protesters. All that seems to be in the news is the negativity. I'm glad and proud I was there, but raging about the fact they still take no notice of the majority.
OK chissiez1. You talking about the brains or the money??
So our 'backofafagpacket policy' Coalition government aren't doing too well despite their public school education - considering the thousands it must have cost.
They didn't have to pay fees when they went to university did they?
These proposals mean that higher education won't be for the bright, it'll be for the rich. Huge waste of potential and deeply unfair.
@chissiez1 Everyone has the right to enter Education whether they can afford it, or not. So if someone is suitable to enter Uni, but they cannot afford it, do you destroy his/her dream to go to Uni? I don't think so.
Do you want everything based on Meritocracy? Or do you want people to buy positions like in the Victorian Era? University should be available to EVERYONE. People need to realise, there is more to money in this world.
The Tories would never see this, all it is to them, is the dosh.
@farmerjamesfergus "Students would not have to pay anything "up-front" and as graduates, would only have to pay back their tuition fee loans once they were earning £21,000 or more."
@WinstonSmith46 Yeah so how much would you have to pay back every month?And that £21K BEFORE tax. And dont forget your expenses when living out. Students dont want a mimimum of 21k debt before they even have a job - It ruins credit ratings and simply just a way for teh conservatives and rich to stay in power. Pathetic and unnecassary!
damn right, it's so refreshing to see a TV personality denounce the X factor. I wish people would wake the fuck up and get their heads out of their manufactured pop-culture arseholes.
FUNNT
xMASSxDx187x 9 months ago
I don't get what his point is at the end. Is he somehow implying that if more people had voted, Labour would have got back in?
I doubt it. If anything, if more people had voted the Tories would have got in without needing to form a coalition.
fodsaks 9 months ago
@dolesponger Get a job you piece of shit, moan about tax when you eventually pay tax you bum
METALLICA3077 11 months ago
VOTE GREEN!! CLICK OR YOUR AN IGNORANT FOOL. ->
deexjayx 1 year ago
What does the flower he's wearing mean?
swiftthirdday 1 year ago
@swiftthirdday It's a poppy... for Remembrance Day.
Horanzu 1 year ago
what channel is this guys show on?
timetochilli 1 year ago
You don't need to afford it, if you never earn a lot you never pay it back.
ajuk1 1 year ago
he just went up in my estimation.
scottishlad1987 1 year ago 5
@scottishlad1987 like wise
theonlylukepritchard 1 year ago
i love you paul!!! you tell em!! xxxx
christinedaae87 1 year ago
hehe thats me holding that sign <3
NandoDickson 1 year ago
I agree paul, the tories are nasty people who should be shot.
SuperPoisonoak 1 year ago 6
and if we put that much money into our economy we'd not be in a recession.... or the flood relief... helping people is good, but when we're not in a possition to help ourselves... it's just stupid.
TheUniversalScholar 1 year ago
THANK GOODNESS FOR PAUL OGRADY. WELL DONE PAUL.SOMEONE NEEDS TO SPEAK FOR THE "COMMOM PEOPLE"
moanytony6 1 year ago 3
Fantastic to see Paul speak against this government, when hes going on about the x factor mumbo jumbo he is talking to his viewers, who fall into that demograph.
Good stuff.
fso520 1 year ago
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1thedividedsoul1 1 year ago
well done. Paul for PM
SoulMan1994 1 year ago 4
This government has no mandate to do what it is doing. The reason the Tories had no majority is because we remember the mess they made of the country last time they were in power. This government was helped into power by the Lib Dems who also had no mandate or they wouldn't have made stupid promises they wouldn't keep. The student protests are only the first of many and it's about time too. March is the big one.
reddeviljp 1 year ago 5
@reddeviljp Labour left a £170 billion deficit - thats £5000 a second that the Government has to borrow because of years and years of irresponsible and reckless spending to bribe their natural supporters. The fact is Labour made a complete mess of the country. And much of what they spent on was a total waste of money. ( Britain has fallen massively down the international league table in educational achievment) . I welcome the coalitions attempt to put us on the right track.
darkarts59 1 year ago
@darkarts59 You Tories may welcome what you want but you still have no mandate to change anything. Labour's spending produced jobs, Gideon's cutting will produce unemployment. Don't expect those people to put up with your analysis and that's without mentioning the cost of bailing out the banks.
The Lib Dem's are your human shield but the Tories will not be forgotten..
reddeviljp 1 year ago
Paul Grady 'You Cunt'
MeanMachine022 1 year ago
Paul Ogrady sums up my opinion
MrJamesmusic 1 year ago 21
Scotland didnt vote tory! Scottish students protest today at 3pm on buchanan street and 5pm at george square. Make your voices heard!
antz1916 1 year ago
watch?v=HECMVdl-9SQ <--- Watch this, this is that incident I described in my last comment.
I'm pretty sure that the police used similar tactics with the students so it was blown completely out of proportion!
TheNotoriousTOM 1 year ago
Why were Police there if it was a peaceful protest? It's not like the 30000 students were unsafe in the city! They were put there quite on purpose to bait the violence that took the spotlight in the media. It was so their actual message would be ignored.
Remember that news story where Police killed an man by causing cardiac arrest as he walked past a protest by needlessly attacking him? Things like that are always covered up. Just so they can do it again...
TheNotoriousTOM 1 year ago
They should kill all of these greedy pricks. An ultimatum of leaving the area or getting blitzed with mustard gas is a fair option!
moodini99 1 year ago
Dumping the backlash of this "imaginary economic termoil" we're in on Students is an act of Genocide! Bankers do nothing but profit, and the corporations support the MP's to push their agenda.
Our country has advanced in science, language, art and everything within our culture because of our ability to learn! This will only be stunted by this Government!
Hospitals, Pensions, Education, Emergency services:
These are things that should be untouchable by politicians!
TheNotoriousTOM 1 year ago
Well said Paul!
It's hypocrisy from the Government, yet again! When they don't like something, it's acceptable to invade a country, i.e Iraq, Afghanistan and soon to be Pakistan...
BUT people in our own country are baited into violence by the Police and the peaceful protestors message is completely ignored.
We are far from free. THIS GOVERNMENT IS RAPING THE COUNTRY!
I'm sorry if that offends you, but it's true...
How long will we accept it?
TheNotoriousTOM 1 year ago
Who voted for the Tories? Obviously most people who did are upper-class but I know a lot of people complaining about the fees increase who voted for them. I also know a lot of people who didn't even vote and are complaining.
I HATE the thought of paying so much for Uni but people need to make sure the do not vote Tories ..
HurricaneDominic 1 year ago
@HurricaneDominic the upper class are a small amount of people so even if they all voted it would make little affect. to make this a class issue is disgusting. people from all across the class spectum voted for them.
mip0212 1 year ago
WELL SAID!!!!
falcons1988 1 year ago
can anyone tell me why the is finishig?
20postit 1 year ago
Paul's spot on. Can't believe I supported the Lib Dems - I knew they'd have to compromise to form a coalition, but the lengths they've gone to are way too far on this. I expected compromises around the edges, not the pledges they built the party around!
Not that I'd vote Labour or Tory either... I'd vote Green if I could, but they don't stand in my constituency.
DitzyStephanie 1 year ago
typical liberals!
PatricksTime 1 year ago
I AM JESUS, I AM THE 666 IN REVELATION...
THE MARKS / NUMBERS FORMING UPON MY FACE WILL SOON BE TOTALLY UNDENIABLE...
GOD BLESS YOUR SOULS... THAT MOMENT IN TIME REALLY IS NOW UPON US ALL...
ulived1969 1 year ago
I'm rooting for Paul !
zcheeseolly 1 year ago
I love paul!!!
PLICK4444 1 year ago
Fuck nick cleg! and Cameron!
MouseMatProductions 1 year ago
@MouseMatProductions
wtf is ur problem dyke-boy
stfu rape-face
suk my dik
petujaymz 1 year ago
It's kinda easy to blame the government for increasing the tuition fee without having any clue about how much money does a uni need for just one year. The argue about this stuff is bullshit. We do a lot of non sense talking without actually know what's behind their decision. Of course everyone wants the uni to be free for everyone but we live in the real world where if you want a quality product you have to pay more for it. Also the "Mickey Mouse courses" should've been out already imho. Cheers
mvnftw 1 year ago
make the fuckers pay from day one i have to if i wanna take courses,half ov em never pay it back anyway
MegaPitbull12 1 year ago
What about people who emigrate - can they avoid paying back their huge debt? £9k is only the TUITION FEES, not costs of living........
smeejit 1 year ago
I know people are saying you can earn money and uni is a choice but without uni you wouldnt have doctors, vets, scienctist who are finding the cure for cancer. Uni is part of a young adults future, and including my family we are having to cut back on lots of things to help pay for my sisters uni. Job hunting is hard and she is getting lots of declines because every student wants a job! So everyone can fuck off, i agree with paul its wrong to raise prices we cant afford these higher prices...
YocoolKids 1 year ago 2
So they raised it from £4,000 to £12,000, so there's clearly a problem. Sure you don't pay upfront and you pay back after time, but the £8000 extra means something.
Liam1993R 1 year ago
Nice one Paul!
bluenail90 1 year ago
i agree with paul!
robobbiebob 1 year ago 3
Lol, Tories. Bunch of English Twats who want the working class to stay working class. Yeah, I'm sure they'll "wipe" them after 20 years and make sure you don't pay anything until you're earning £21000. That'll happen.
gingermadman 1 year ago
@gingermadman you and anybody that calls the tories anti poor people is just stupid. do really think david cameron and any torie HONESTLY has some kind of hate of working class people. thats just u trying to said the whole world is against us. poor me poor me. wake up people
mip0212 1 year ago
@mip0212 Yeah what we need to wake up to is ludicrously one-sided views like yours. When Tories talk about "hard work" (and my god do they use that phrase constantly), do you never stop to think "the hardest work that lot do all day is answer a telephone or open a briefcase". The simple fact is Tories don't DO hard work, they take the profits of someone ELSE'S hard work.
JanineRobin 1 year ago 73
@JanineRobin yeah everyone like you throws insults at tories but are not looking the the problem. in the real world people will have to pay from their tax for free education. meaning everyone young or old who did or did not go to uni wil have to pay. when your 55 you will be paying for kids you dont know and will never meet for there education. why should millions of poor working old men who never when uni pay for somthing that does not effect him. why should uni be above policing health etc
mip0212 1 year ago
@mip0212 No, in a fair world the poor would not be paying for education. The ultra-rich would be funding it with a tax to a fraction of their obscene wealth.
Jimisonjons 1 year ago
@JanineRobin go ask a grown man at his door for money for your higher education and when he says no, ask him for money for local policing, energy, health care and see what he is prepare to give his own money to.
mip0212 1 year ago
@mip0212 Although presumably a large proportion of the people providing any good, solid energy and health services will have the skills and expertise necessary to do so through going to university and gaining a good higher education. The less people that can afford to do that, the poorer those services become, no matter how much money he throws at the practitioners directly.
Hakucho 1 year ago
@mip0212 They're not anti-poor, they just focus too much on their own benefits when others who suffer much more really need them. In my opinion the working class are made to make sacrifices for the good of the country, while the more fortunate people are occasionally docked a minimal percentage of money that they wont even need so that to the conservative dominated press can make it look like we're all in the same situation.
scaryninja1693 1 year ago
@scaryninja1693 look life is tough, its not a ideal world but politics will never please 100% of the people it is impossible so it has to look after the many not the few and the many (working people with fair or adove wages) will not think its fair their money will go into something that not everybody uses and when they do only for a max of 3 or something years. Do you get that in the whole grand scheme of things uni is not as important to fund than other things. education is free until uni.
mip0212 1 year ago
@mip0212 So what is in your grand scheme of things more important than universities, hospitals? police? perhaps a valid argument that more people need these services than people need universities, but where do doctors and important police chiefs receive the knowledge needed to reach these positions? I obviously agree its not an ideal world and that you cant please everyone, but the working people will want more opportunities for their own children,there are things we can afford to sacrifice more
scaryninja1693 1 year ago
people have forgotten that uni is a option not a need. you can earn good money without going to uni so this whole "the poor staying poor" thing is stupid. when all students grow up to be 50 or above will they still want to pay for uni. no of course not they have there own bills to pay. there tax payers money should not go to pay for everyones higher education. health, police, defence, business, energy, transport are examples of where money HAS to go because they are more important for EVERYONE
mip0212 1 year ago
1. NOTHING paid upfront
2. Only paid back when earning 21k a year
3. Smaller repayments per month than currently
4. More bonds and grants for the poorest students than currently
5. Less Mickey Mouse courses that mean nothing in the real world
6. Higher average wage than non graduates
7. If not paid back after 20 years, its wiped.
Now PLEASE explain what the fuck students are complaining about? How about you stop acting like little kids and grow a backbone, and get on with ffs.
Kozzy06 1 year ago
@Kozzy06 FUCK OFF FUCKING CUNT
scottyurfunnylol 1 year ago
@scottyurfunnylol Try to argue properly please that dosen't help your cause, i also disagree with him but getting hot headed won't solve anything.
scaryninja1693 1 year ago
"Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. "
H. L. Mencken
planetmax83 1 year ago
"Democracy is only a dream: it should be put in the same category as Arcadia, Santa Claus, and Heaven."
H. L. Mencken
planetmax83 1 year ago
What a thick dangerous prick that fudge packer is.He's the one that needs a fire extinguisher ramming down his throat.
vankwisher7 1 year ago
@vankwisher7 and why is that?
crazyjake29 1 year ago
Paul O'Grady for prime minister
fleshrose 1 year ago 2
ahhh.... its so nice that we dont have to pay anything up here in scotland :) ahhh... feels good mmmmm :)
HardManAndres 1 year ago
if you get a good degree in a proper subject, i think you should get some of your fees back.
i.e., the sciences, engineering disciplines, economics and math
otherwise you can pay full price.
and its not the poor that suffer, they get grants.
or the rich, they can piss money away,
its those in the middle between the two that seem to get fucked over every which way
TurKdiRty 1 year ago 2
@TurKdiRty I agree with every part of your comment
lmd141 1 year ago
@mip0212 Paul wasn't really condoning violence, he's just made a joke - and how do you know it was some rich kid who threw the fire extinguisher? "Who said just because Uni used to be free does not mean it was right" - one finishes university and in this economic climate not only has to pay for rent/ mortgage, raise a family etc but also pay back more than £ 30K of debt. Could you afford it? Education should be a right, not a privilege for little spoiled brainless gits like yourself
phyrrusvox 1 year ago 3
@phyrrusvox i know u fool because i watch, read and listen to the news. clearly u dont so what the hell are u out of all people talking about news. weirdo.
mip0212 1 year ago
@mip0212 yes you read some Tory supporting trash newspaper and call yourself informed - tosser
phyrrusvox 1 year ago
@phyrrusvox i am informed you tosser. i guess you read some far left trash and you call call ur self informed. you joke, replying comments like that makes you the biggest snob as well ill minded thug who would thrash my house so i can be make to SEE IT UR WAY. piss off low life go get yourself a job and stop relying on others little child. my opinion is fair and not nasty unlike urs. next time u comment behind the safety of you computer PLAY NICELY or i tell ur parents about ur poor manners.
mip0212 1 year ago
Education, including University education, should be free for all. Education frees the masses so that's why tuition fees were introduced. The establishment don't want social mobility, they see it as a threat. Labour should be ashamed for introducing fees, and so should the Lib Dems and Tories for raising them to £6k.
19STU84 1 year ago
@19STU84 there are other far worse lockin's to control the country than restricting education.
It's worrying that the younger generation are semi illiterate and many lack the ability to hold a sensible conversation.
Education starts at home.
Sres1 1 year ago
@19STU84 hmmm... and how exactly do you propose we pay for this entirely free university education? You are talking nonsense, it is impossible in modern day britian.
You are completed deluded and do not live in the real world, much like the students who protest last week.
Kozzy06 1 year ago
@Kozzy06 I don't see why its impossible in modern Britain. There are other ways such as higher taxation on the super rich, a tax on people who have already benefited from free university education (such as our hypocritical MPs), or more of a financial contribution from big business who after all will benefit from students when they graduate.
19STU84 1 year ago 3
The super rich already pay over 50% in taxes. Besides, they don't have shitty media and psychology degrees. Only the worthwhile degrees should be paid for by the tax payer
moodini99 1 year ago
He's SO right about the XFactor votes. People are too court up with their pathetic bullshit like these stupid, forever ongoing, TV shows, they are forgetting thats really importent. How is democracy supposed to work if the only people still bothering to vote are the 55+ group? The USA is heading for a revolution, and so is England if things carry on like this.
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mip0212 1 year ago
if only you knew me as a person, the course i did and the job i do. u stupid troll. yeah throw insults at me because you have lost the debate so resort to what to do best. Violence.
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mip0212 1 year ago
and some rich kid was the one who threw the fire extinguisher. again what the fuck i doubt he cares about the uni fees, he just came because he thought it would look cool if he smashed some windows and try and kill someone. being a criminal is soooo cool. breaking the law, breaking the law sounds so much better when it is in a song. and by the way i just finish uni so i not some random person making unfounded comments.
mip0212 1 year ago
@mip0212 "i just finish uni " well that was a waste of public resources then you semi literate, Tory loving dick
adycousins 1 year ago
You are all so stupid supporting paul comments . acting like thugs is not cool, being anti goverment is not cool. it was just violence for violence sake. eductation should be free. what a stupid comment, eductaion is free for everyone under 18 but uni is different. if it was for free who would pay for it, we all would out of our tax, even if millions of us dont go to uni. remember money has to be generated from somewhere to pay for it. stupid far left fantasy. my water supply should be free. FU
mip0212 1 year ago
@mip0212 also majoity of them spend theyr money clubin and boozing so on
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mip0212 1 year ago
@BooMers232 even a bloody stupid 17 year was there smashing a window with a taken police cap. What the fuck was it he doing there. little prick go and play like a good kid
mip0212 1 year ago
@mip0212 University Education was free until relatively recently - it was free under Thatcher. Uni is not different, you pay for bombs with your tax, you pay for health out of tax, refuse collection, water, policing, fire service etc why not education? This wasn't violence for violence sake. FU
adycousins 1 year ago
@adycousins just because it was once free does not mean it was right. LOL or are u not aware of that. FU
mip0212 1 year ago
Well said Paul xx
fattyk06 1 year ago 2
Paul O'Grady for Prime Minister - he'd get my vote! He cracks me up. LOL.
lpbh25 1 year ago 3
legend
Seagerash 1 year ago
wishto god i was in london i would of protested
sarahleighton 1 year ago
PAUL FOR PM!!!!!!!
Flappyman24 1 year ago 41
Brilliant, is Paul to be the only person to vocally oppose this Government? Come on Labour, don't sit back like Kinnock did.
onwebcameron 1 year ago
why people get mad over him supporting something...its 9grand for ONE year of uni...u guna take a 3 year course and spend 27grand you dont have? then be in 30grand debt before you even have a job? you got a better chance getin pregnant at 16 and livin in a cancil house and livin of that money
AdamssikH3 1 year ago
what a lad
t6yz 1 year ago
@darrenmsparrow violence has worked previously - poll tax riots.
teamnish 1 year ago
What a dick. Anything for a few viewers.
UKFilmGeek 1 year ago
True. Although I don't see why British Students have to pay for their education and Scottish Students get it all free? Rather than do stupid protests like this they need to march on number ten, thye need to lobby their MP's for change. Violence will not work at all.
darrenmsparrow 1 year ago
@darrenmsparrow violence solves everything
kylech4lfc 1 year ago
@darrenmsparrow Just to point out, English students could go to Uni in Scotland, and still only pay roughly 1,750 a year at most. Unless the SNP cave to Westminster. So you could always come up here to study
A16AdamWalker 1 year ago
@darrenmsparrow
It is usually forbidden to march to number 10, (since Thatcher erected the gates there anyway), so Tory HQ probably seemed the next viable alternative.
onwebcameron 1 year ago
Has to make sure his demographic are kept happy...
Sres1 1 year ago
@Sres1 except his "demographic" seem to be pensioners - they all remember the dark days of Thatcher - thats why they're cheering
adycousins 1 year ago
@adycousins it was a flippant remark.
Sres1 1 year ago
He'll do anything for viewing figures.
darrenmsparrow 1 year ago
Don't forget the police killed one of us at the G20.
We owe them
69salford69 1 year ago
@69salford69 he wasn't one of you, so get your facts right, Ian Tomlinson wasn't on the protest, he was on his way to the pub after work. Wrong place wrong time, of course if you lot (as you like to refer to yourself) hadn't been there, Ian would still be alive today... Hang your head in shame...
Sres1 1 year ago
@Sres1
Yeah exactly. He was an innocent man. Just like the pig who could have been killed by the fire extinguisher - INNOCENT. The point is millions used to die in World Wars a revolution is coming soon and thousands will die. I hope Dave Cameron is one of them
69salford69 1 year ago
lmao true Paul this is funny, dont toss the extinguisher from the roof barge the windows and doors down. It was a good day there. Viva La Revolucion.
Paul said it; 'Education should be for everybody and not just a few'.
CSmoCC 1 year ago
This makes me so happy. Love you Paul!
steph895 1 year ago
FINALLY someone supporting the students!
Take that BBC!
MiaKi1991 1 year ago
@MiaKi1991
BBC is impartial, retard.
millard27 1 year ago
@millard27
Believe that and you'll believe anything.
And there was no need for the way you said it.
MiaKi1991 1 year ago
@millard27 BBC impartial? What planet are you on? The BBC is run by a socialist underbelly, I can point to transgressions including internal memo's sent to BBC staff telling them not to twitter their personal views.
Do a search for Biased BBC, get your news from proper news sites and not from the mainstream. Sky & BBC are the two most bias news sites in the UK.
The BBC even announced that they are bias on religion back in 2006...
Sres1 1 year ago
'If people took this amount of interest in the election we wouldn't be in this pickle today'
What, by voting Labour who also went back on their tuition fees promise?
DuncanMcA 1 year ago 2
Briliant
ciderbow 1 year ago
Someone in the media with some sense! :)
AnarchyIsNotBad 1 year ago
PAUL FOR PRIME MINISTER!
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How many of those whooping and cheering in the audience bothered to vote? Where was O'Grady when his beloved Labour party broke their promise not to introduce fees in the first place? Where was he when they then tripled them to £3000?
This is lazy, pathetic populist nonsense from O'Grady.
You don't pay back a single penny of tuition fees until you earn £21,000 so let's not pretend low earners or the unemployed are going to be scraping around trying to get their fees together.
bobrudge61 1 year ago
@bobrudge61 Hang on. The point isn't about paying it back, it's about the amount. How on earth can anyone say that paying back MORE is making things easier for students from poorer backgrounds.
I am currently £10k in debt, and I'm only on my 2nd year at University. I am living at home, I have two part time jobs and I'm struggling. It's an absolute disgrace how the poor have been priced out of education, whilst the rest have them paid by Daddy
Education for the many, not for the few.
AntonyShimminlfc 1 year ago
@AntonyShimminlfc How are the poor priced out of education? That's nonsense rhetoric. You don't pay a penny back unless you earn over £21,000 a year - at which point I hardly think you can be described as poor.
At present you start paying back at £15,000.
The fact is that the poorest 25% of students will actually be better off under the new system. Those that go on to get the best paying jobs will pay back more under the new system.
bobrudge61 1 year ago
@bobrudge61Why should anyone have to take out a loan especially of that magnitude for education? If you can afford it fine, but if you can't. It's not about 'paying it back in the future' It's having to pay back what is effectively a mortgage. It's a financial burden for everyone, pass or fail. It's putting thousands of people off higher education. A Lost generation.
Tell me. How would it have been easier for me/the poorer going to Uni paying £9k a year, as opposed to £3.5k a year?
AntonyShimminlfc 1 year ago
@bobrudge61 Oh look another youtube member with too much to say for themselves.
TheGoldStandardBoy 1 year ago
@bobrudge61 So if your earning 21 grand and you have to give up to as much as 9 back? Good luck living off that.
Meekelo 1 year ago
@Meekelo Bloody hell, they arent paying it back all at once you moron. They on average will pay back a WHOPPING %2 of thier monthly wage, only after they earn more than 21k a year.
Students have lost all sympathy from the vast majority of the country after the 'protests'
How DARE students think the UK taxpayer should pay for thier CHOICE to study further education?
You want it? You bloody well pay for all of it.
Kozzy06 1 year ago
@Kozzy06 I wasn't involved in this protest but the rise in the amount of money that it will cost me to go to university has changed my life decisions which I'm not happy about. I originally planned on having a working gap year after finising my A-levels and rest from the stresses of education and gain experience but I'm having to apply to go to university next year instead as it will be a lot harder for me to fund starting uni in 2012.
SLASHERHEATH 1 year ago
@Meekelo What?! You really think that when you earn £21,000 they take the full £9,000 back straight away? This is the sort of nonsense that exactly proves my point about the lack of knowledge from people whooping and cheering O'Grady along.
Once you earn £21,000 a year, you START paying back the loan as a percentage of your salary OVER £21k.
How can we have a debate when people don't even know what they're talking about.
bobrudge61 1 year ago
@bobrudge61
FINALLY someone else in the world with any sense! its only a small percentage of what you earn too. I see it as if you want to go to univercity, you can pay it back by paying slightly more tax. People who earn £50000 pay about 40% tax anyway! Your the only person so far thats spoken any bloody sense on the matter!
linkkpzz234 1 year ago
@linkkpzz234 Sense? Sense? Whats so sensible about paying 3 times the amount currently for a degree. You pay back your loan plus interest. With maintenance loans you're looking at paying £40k a year + INTEREST.
Your interest goes up the longer you're out of work.
What would your message be to the poorer in society who have the talent but not the means?
Remember degrees are full time. There are no jobs, and it's hard enough getting by as it is.
There is too much of a 'I'm alright Jack' attitude
AntonyShimminlfc 1 year ago
@AntonyShimminlfc I said he makes sense, not the government. But we are the ones getting the education and that, why should tax payers fork more of the bill for our education? And it is still massively knocked down to what it should cost if we were to fund the entire course ourselves. I am one of the ones poorer in society, and i cannot say it doesnt bother me having to pay more but everyone else is making sacrifices, why should we be immune. And why riot? riots=damage=higher taxes!
linkkpzz234 1 year ago
@linkkpzz234 Where do you stop? Why should people without kids pay tax for schools? Etc. Tax Payers should fork the bill because it's good for the economy. Education is good for the country, we should be encouraging this countries brightest talents to prosper, not to be lost because of finances.
The money spent on students will be paid back and then some by those in higher paid jobs.
AntonyShimminlfc 1 year ago
@AntonyShimminlfc Where on earth do you get £40k a year from, that's ridiculous.
Obviously it would be better of the fees were lower or did not exist. My personal view is that fees should be abolished. The point I am making, however, is that a lot of people have jumped on the bandwagon of this without knowing the facts.
It's disingenuous to talk about the poor not being able to afford Uni because you do not pay until you earn a decent salary. So if you stay poor, you don't actually pay.
bobrudge61 1 year ago
@bobrudge61 Apologies I meant £40k for a degree + Interests.
But once more you're missing the point. The whole point of going to University is to be able to demand a higher fee and have potentially a better quality of life.
If the poor stay poor, surely that means the tuition fees are wasted and Uni's are not doing there jobs. The longer they are out of work, the more the interest goes up.
Education should not come with a financial burden as big as £9k a year for a degree pass or fail
AntonyShimminlfc 1 year ago
@bobrudge61 Mate do not be fucking patronizing when you are out of your depth. But if you are on 21 grand a year the last thing you need is to have to be paying more than tax, mortgage, insurance etc. I am not an idiot so never treat me like one.
You are acting like an idiot, the point is why should students have to face the repercussions of stuff they had nothing to do with? In what world do you live in? Because where I'm from if you fuck up you pay for it not your offspring.
Meekelo 1 year ago 3
They don't. All they have to do is pay for the education that they get. It's simple. If you earn £21,000 a year, it is no bother paying back the full amount of student loans. Only proper degrees should be payed for by the tax payer. No humanities, media, psychology or useless degrees! The fact is, if you want to go to uni, you have to pay, there is nothing that anyone can do about it.
moodini99 1 year ago
@bobrudge61 why should the fees go up in the first place? this another way of the government forwarding the cost towards the public. especially the middle class. they are keeping there big fat MP salaries but try to charge up education fees?? that doesnt make any sense
tvain86 1 year ago
@bobrudge61 just because you don't have to pay back your loans utill you earn£21,000 doesn't mean everyone will be able to pay it back or even get a job earning £21,000. Many students leave uni with huge debts and still no work.
Education should not depend on wealth these days, just because the Tories are in government doesn't not mean we should go back to the times where people were separated into classes based on there wealth.
sillyshaz 1 year ago
@sillyshaz Do you even read what you write? If you don't earn £21k then you don't have to pay anything back, so how can your argument be - "oh some people don't get a job or don't earn £21k" - well those people don't have to pay a penny of the fees back.
bobrudge61 1 year ago
@bobrudge61 and who will pay back what isn't payed by the students in the long run? the tax payers! so do you want to pay more taxes because students can't pay back their loans? the government expect that budget cuts to sort everything but its the tax payer that lose out in the long run
sillyshaz 1 year ago
@sillyshaz Hang on. If they don't put fees up, or they scrap them where do you think the money to fund Universities comes from? That taxpayer.
So you don't want fees for students tom increase but you're also against increased state funding!
How the hell do you expect Universities to prosper then? Magic free money ?
Unbelievable.
bobrudge61 1 year ago
@bobrudge61 the government is what cut the funding to the universities in the first place, what is they're problem which allowing the poorer people have a chance at further education and improving their skills and knowledge allowing them to better themselves?? £3000 was a fair enough price and some what affordable.
sillyshaz 1 year ago
@bobrudge61 actually its £11,000
ComradeJon 1 year ago
@ComradeJon What is £11,000?
bobrudge61 1 year ago
@bobrudge61
so if my household is on 14,500 a year will i not have to pay tuition ??
Konartwist 1 year ago
@bobrudge61 I agree on the audiences part, but the fact he feels strongly on this matter has a lot less to do with what party he supports
Did the Tories come right out and say they were going to screw students over in their campaign? No.
Did the Lib Dems give people a false sense of security about student fees? Yes.
It's not populist nonsense, everyone should have the right to education not just well off families. Labour introducing and increasing fees is old news, people have adapted.
LolAllen95 1 year ago
@LolAllen95 For some reason everyone seems to forget a very crucial point during election time, in all the hype we lose focus. The point is, whatever the politician is saying, there is an 85-90% chance that it's a grade A lie. However when Labour lie its because they haven't got a clue what they're doing so they end up screwing us all over equally, the Tories however lie because they know we wont like it when they screw over the poor and the rich just get slightly less pocket money.
scaryninja1693 1 year ago
amen to that
slbelfield 1 year ago
nice one.
beezerbeez 1 year ago
sooo happy some support was on the television, 37 people arrested however there was 50,000 PEACEFUL protesters. All that seems to be in the news is the negativity. I'm glad and proud I was there, but raging about the fact they still take no notice of the majority.
laurennnjustlaurennn 1 year ago
spoken like a man who's true to his roots , a true northerner , well said Paul !
kateycon 1 year ago
OK chissiez1. You talking about the brains or the money??
So our 'backofafagpacket policy' Coalition government aren't doing too well despite their public school education - considering the thousands it must have cost.
They didn't have to pay fees when they went to university did they?
These proposals mean that higher education won't be for the bright, it'll be for the rich. Huge waste of potential and deeply unfair.
88deaddog 1 year ago
Brilliant!
whopayswins 1 year ago
This man is wonderful, and right
anotherlemontree 1 year ago
Damn right Paul!! This Country must not be ruled "Culture Operated" Tories!
EVERYONE HAS A RIGHT TO HAVE EDUCATION; ELITE OR NOT!!!!
farmerjamesfergus 1 year ago
@farmerjamesfergus
WRONG
Those that are capable of handling the education regime should get it not those who are not for whatever reason.
chissiez1 1 year ago
@chissiez1 Everyone has the right to enter Education whether they can afford it, or not. So if someone is suitable to enter Uni, but they cannot afford it, do you destroy his/her dream to go to Uni? I don't think so.
Do you want everything based on Meritocracy? Or do you want people to buy positions like in the Victorian Era? University should be available to EVERYONE. People need to realise, there is more to money in this world.
The Tories would never see this, all it is to them, is the dosh.
farmerjamesfergus 1 year ago 2
@farmerjamesfergus
WRONG - Those not up to the mark have no right to be there - that is the basis of all admissions and any examinations thereafter.
The meritocracy originated with the Victorians - get it right.
The intention is that there will be bursaries etc for those that merit it.
chissiez1 1 year ago
@farmerjamesfergus "Students would not have to pay anything "up-front" and as graduates, would only have to pay back their tuition fee loans once they were earning £21,000 or more."
WinstonSmith46 1 year ago
@WinstonSmith46 Yeah so how much would you have to pay back every month?And that £21K BEFORE tax. And dont forget your expenses when living out. Students dont want a mimimum of 21k debt before they even have a job - It ruins credit ratings and simply just a way for teh conservatives and rich to stay in power. Pathetic and unnecassary!
Jiminallybillybob 1 year ago
damn right, it's so refreshing to see a TV personality denounce the X factor. I wish people would wake the fuck up and get their heads out of their manufactured pop-culture arseholes.
SyndicalistTimes 1 year ago 32
Couldn't agree more!
Ayraomega 1 year ago