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  • one milion percent this is jamersons bassline. EVEN STEVIE WONDER SAID SO. Carol Kaye let the late great man R.I.P

  • oh, and dude in video needs to practice a little more.

  • I"m a full-time professional bassist, and to all the non-believers that think Carol Kaye lies: She is so accomplished, she has no reason to lie about anything. I play both with my fingers and with a pick-- a dead set of flatwounds on bass can make fingers and picks sound the same, especially if the tone knob is tweeked just right. I know, I switch back and forth depending on the tune. Carol is the sh!t, and I believe her when she says she played on recordings.

  • @TheBelgiangiant since it was never documented, there's no way to know. Jamerson's not around to weigh in on it and Kaye was so prolific that there's no way she could remember every session she was on. Either one of those two would have been capable of producing a line like this. No matter who did it, it's one of the great historic bass lines.

  • Fantastic job, man! And it is Jamerson on the original. Jamerson played with his finger, Kaye played with her pick. Different sound altogether.

  • Great fingering and technique....work on your time.

  • this sounds like such a james jamerson bassline.. would love to get a definitive answer

  • NO WAY Carol Kaye played this! She plays with a pick and Jamerson had had the legendary hook.

  • One of my favorite Jamerson songs! EXCELLENT job.

  • Awesome!

  • Rught on the money, good job!

  • I love this song & play it note for note as close as I can on the Bass too. You did an outstanding job my friend. There are 3 particular bass parts in this song I get a kick from, & you, nailed 2 of them. There's a slight hesitation Jamerson has on one of his grooves & I think you've heard it too. It's no biggie really...just the kind of shit I freakin' dig...especially when great players like you pick up on it too. I can tell you have a fine ear & can really listen.

    Good choice in songs !!

  • wow, beautiful bass dude

  • great!

  • Wow - awesome, my brother!

  • Great job jocko! And the way you gave arcellus credit shows a lot of class!

  • good job... this is definitely not Carol's bassline, she likes to put her name a lot of basslines that she did not write.

  • Hey man!

    Is this Squier P Bass Special???

  • Sure looks that way!

  • wow awesome! good JOB man!

  • Billy Wilson, president of the MAA, wrote to me yesterday: "Virtually all that [CK] has said is true[....]" I'm not sure what to think about the difference between that and what he wrote in 2002 (e.g. perhaps he's done quite a bit of research at some point during the last seven years?), but in fairness to him I'm mentioning it here.

  • nice you showed me i was on the right track!

  • Rockin

  • relax. but def good. keep up the good work

  • Great job ! I love that song.

  • nice playing! one of Jamersons best lines 5*

  • didnt babbit play the stevie wonder tracks?

  • Nice!

  • a classic, mate you've got the notes but you're getting just a little carried-away and leaving the song behind. so take it steady, with bass playing the timing is everything.

  • i 've got the same bass and althought is a litle hrd you play it very well

  • Nice job. Thanks for posting.

  • ... According to Carol, this tune was recorded at Armin Steiner's studio and she recalls "I didn't like the final written riff that I played high up in unison with the horns. You can also hear where I was scuffling a bit with open strings a couple of times".

    As far as "scuffling" around, the performance is perfect.

    "I Was Made To Love Her" is rhythm section and strings. There are no horns on that record.

    Case closed.

  • Absolute nonsense!! This was played by James Jamerson, there is a sworn affidavit by Henry Cosby, the co-writer, arranger and producer on this tune, and he had confirmed it was played by James Jamerson. Anyway, Motown didn't move its recording operations to California until 1972, "I Was Made To Love Her" was recorded and released in 1967.

  • Carol needs to just stop this craziness about having played James' parts. It's bizarre behavior that only casts a shadow on her other real accomplishments.

  • this actually very good, very fluid. do you like your p bass special? im thinkin but gettin one. i have to say though, you look at times as though you're havin an orgasm! lol. great job though

  • the p-bass is nice. i also own a fender jazz (MIA). i prefer the jazz because of its smaller neck (i have small hands) so its easyer to play for me. but for value/money the p-bass is great!

  • AFAIK That p-bass special (this is the satin pewter & black colour combo) comes with a jazz neck so should be the exact same size.‬

    I just ordered this bass and my research indicates its so. This is of course for the 2009 line.

    I hope it's pretty/bass ass looking ;P. It's so hard to find decent quality, real life pictures of this model online.

  • Too many incorrect notes and you're rushing it. Go back & listen closely.

  • are you a 62 year old nobody trying to get one last jab in before you fall face first into your morning farina?

  • hahahahh lol!! that was great!!

  • Haha, yeah I love how he doesn't have any videos himself.

  • he was playing it right, its just that he needs to put the sponge under the strings to get it to sound authentic, youre hearing string mutes that normally wouldnt be needed with the sponge. try it on your bass its fun.

  • great playing

    you just rush some of the straight 16th note fills, which are the hardest. it just takes practice

  • I've got the same Bass. I love it. But in the video it isn't as beautiful like in reality. ;)

    Well played!

  • thx for that great compliment! :) yeah, i like that bass too!

  • thx for your comments guys! i really appreciate them =)

  • you just look like funny guy lol

  • i am ;)

  • Really COOL- consider will you that song is years older than he is!

  • Don't apologise. Tricky line, and so great on so many levels. It was Jamerson. Carol Kaye never recorded in Detroit. This record was recorded at 2648. She recorded a lot of the later stuff, such as the Jackson 5, but she was not alone. Wilton Felder (Crusaders) played some beautiful things too. She seemed to go through a phase where she claimed credit for everything. Got caught out, and has been shamed ever since. Pity. She is a very fine musician. This is not her though.
  • Jamerson played everything with one finger. Stand up bass up into the precision. Good job pal

  • thats my bass.

    the same colour, everythin. LOLZZ

  • YOU ARE AWESOME!!! I love that song, but what realllly makes that song is the bass... It's also great to see that your so into it, reminds me of myself when I'm driving and listening to it :-)

  • thank you! and thanks for the info nudebass

  • i thought you did a good job

  • Hi,

    Excellent job!

    However, and if I may, it *was* Carol Kaye and not James Jamerson who played this bass part. You can check out Carol's web site and listen to the actual (isolated) bass track featured in her sound library. There, you'll also see the amazing (and endless) list of hits she played on. In fact, chances are she is the most recorded session musician bar none.

  • Well, there's what Carol claims and then there's everyone else:

    "Hank Cosby who co-wrote, produced it, and who, in his own words, "was there every step of the way from the writing of the song to the day the 45's were shipped", vehemently denied any participation by Carol Kaye on this recording. Cosby added, "Fifty percent of the song was James Jamerson's bass line. No one played like that but Jamerson."

  • In the spirit of objectivity, I researched this myself and what I found confirms your report. Being a fan of huge fan of both Jamerson and Kaye, I had no reason to suspect that any such controversy would even exist. Now, I, must admit, I am leaning towards believing it was Jamerson. Incidentally, I did see the movie (Standing in the Shadow of Motown) and according to Jamerson's fellow band members, he plucked with only one finger! And he played "Grape vine" while lying on his back, on the floor.

  • Still obsessed with the issue of "Motive" Plus, I saw a clip where neither McCartney nor Harrison could remember who played bass on

    "Golden Slumbers" and George Martin solved the puzzle by pointing out a subtle clue in the recordings (it was Harrison), here what I am thinking: If this bass line was PICKED then it was Carol who played it. If it was PLUCKED then it was Jamerson. Again, I am **totally** objective and I apologize if I have offended anyone with my follow up remarks.

  • Good technique, but please add some bottom to that sound. That does not honor the tone of Jamerson.

  • thx brilliantbeing! yeah. unfortunately i do nut use any recording devices, i just play "live" and my webcam records the sound.

    have a nice day!

  • thx jellstokhf!

    i dont think anyone can emulate the real sound of james, but i know what you mean. the feeling of the song doesnt get supported that well through my playing. but as mentioned in the info, i was in a hurry and am not able to upload anything new any time soon.

    thx for your comment though!

    have a nice day :)

  • don't worry about sounding like james. the best you can do is borrow his technique and incorporate it into your own playing. if you feel the song it'll just pour right out of your fingers without having to even think.

    great job btw but like i said feel it in your bones and it'll sound 1000 times smoother and rounder.

  • But yeah re-record this. Sit down, Turn up the background music a little bit so people can hear what you're playing to a little bit better. (not that big of a problem by the way)

    And don't work about having to do anything to look good while playing.

  • thx for your comment! if i have the time ill reupload. but the next few weeks im quite stressed... and i dont want to look good, this faces and movements just "happen" - im sorry ;)

  • You did a pretty good job dude. I do think you should re-record. Next time maybe sit down it will be easier to you to focus on. You messed up a couple of times. I'm giving you a four star because you're the person who I can hear both the bass and background music.

  • the main thing is that you look like you enjoy it and feel the real groove of the song. Like you said, it's not perfect and you get hung up a few times but overall your enthusiasm picked up those parts. 3 & 1/2 out of 5.

  • thank you very much rhix! its a great compliment to read that someone sees that im enjoying the bassline and feeling the groove.

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