Introducing the HUD to Ubuntu

[abdulrahman112]

It's now on ubuntu 12.04 beta 1 ... which is a step forward

mmm,,, but: does it fit on every application, I mean: is it replacing the menu in every application? or is it just a general purpose menu (I mean for bookmarks and history ...)?

[CHEWStudio1]

lol I actually never critsized it and all I said is Its cool to have in addition to lol

[MrTuberize]

i really hate the bar on the left i wish it cant be removed on Ubuntu 11.10 look ugly when that bar on the left

[13rapidvictory]

this is stupif your assuming that eveyone knows what every option is in a program i sure as hell cant remember everything! im too busy for that crap!

[vudarksky]

it's just Ubuntu , what do you need more than that ? ;)

[FyeRee]

Guys i really don't think this will replace the menus... its just more intuitive and easier to use for programs like gimp where there are tons of options hidden in tons of drop down lists, or with music instead of having to use a search bar to go through your music. Jeeze everyone is so critical of everything ubuntu tries to do.

[hjf3022]

I'm pretty sure all the menus remain, this is just an extra option if you don't want to go looking.

[korney65495]

I like Ubuntu purely because they like the Foo Fighters!

[xmrwaffles]

Ubuntu this is the death of you. leave the menus.

[cumulus0007]

@xmrwaffles it is OPTIONAL. How hard is it to actually read their press release about this?

[Xaahu]

@xmrwaffles they're not gonna replace em. chill people chill.

[lambd01d]

Click and set status to away vs type away in a text box- which is quicker? In most cases, it would be quicker to use the menu. If it's a task you do regularly, and there's a keyboard shortcut for it, you'd be better off using that. It would be useful for some things no doubt, but not for the most part.

[blazeawez]

sure gonna beat windows and mac

[szoli69]

If Ubuntu goes this way, I - like many others- will go back to Debian.

[naryanr]

As long as it's not a replacement.

I never *hated* Unity, and I'll admit they're doing a good job with the idea. Maybe one day I'll actually think it's just as good as what they had going before, but I will *never* think, and am *still* waiting for someone to stop with those god damn invisible global menus... it's like some sadistic game...

[barkermn01]

The menu is stupid if i installed a new software i dont know what the menu items could be called i would have to know the exact menu name to find it but i'm trying to test a new software i don't know the menu names this is daft set-up leave the drop down menus as menus

[MrYashirun]

Please Leave the menus, so we can explore what the apps we used for.

[jmbbao]

Time to migrate to another distros

[chauron]

Not very accessible in my opinion. You always have to see what you type and are dependand of keyboard etc.

[206ernesto]

THE DREAM IS DEAD!

[slier81]

ubuntu really sucks now, trying so hard to be mac

[gpaluk]

Please.... they should hook this up to speech recognition!

[gpaluk]

@gpaluk Ohhh... and someone else put the same thing just a few comments below!

[sneekylinux]

i did like the nested menu's

[jesus2012end]

This thing would be incredibly useful if there was speech recognition software that would work properly on linux. (If you know one please reply)

[noname4422]

Back to the command line!

[walter0bz]

@noname4422 -

or command line on steroids, when combined with modern search technology or something like wolfram alpha

[gpaluk]

@noname4422 Not really command line...you can't type the wrong thing...it's more like a filter for the things that you want to do out of the possible things that you can do combined with map reduce

[MalaTemporaCurrunt]

@noname4422 YAY!

[marcellobello2]

Interesting concept. Altough it seems a bit ironic, that after all these graphical desktop advancements, they're basically going back to the command line. But it looks quite efficient. Gotta give this a try...

[walter0bz]

@marcellobello2 .. because its still hard to express actions as images or give an onscreen pathway for every possible action

[asdf90091]

I don't see the point in making Ubuntu users even lazier, but hud-cli looks nice.

[jas16899]

Ubuntu is cementing themselves into "babby's first linux distro"

[F3lixMjamjar]

nice. could this have anything to do with voice commands?

[Handuel13]

Is this going to be in ubuntu 12.04?

[aviatorman78]

What would be even better is if you can use your voice to do this then the HUD would be more interesting. Good but not good enough.

[Wartznyx]

It's good, but it doesn't convince me to change back from mint... :)

[SuckerBullet]

I honestly hope you patented this, so Apple won't come and say they invented it.

[gigitek]

@SuckerBullet they already have it... it's called siri, and has voice input...

[RichieRich1986]

I'm so glad I took a step back from ubuntu and tried out other distro's after being disappointed by Unity. I have been using Ubuntu for the last 4 years, but I'm never going back again. I tried all KDE distro's but most were to unstable, until I came across OpenSUSE 12.1 KDE... I love it and even though Yast really takes some getting used to, the KDE experience in their distro is stable and solid, security is very good "out of the box" and I really didn't have to do that much tweaking at all. :)

[NewKeepSharing31]

Somehow I feel if ubuntu classic is easier to use :D

[thenatobourne]

please canonical make a old gnome interface to ubuntu 12.04

[BreoESEI]

But, what if you are not an expert using some software, and you have to look for the available options in a bar?

I am thinking in the awesome Gimp, in that I don't know all of the available options, sometimes I have to see in menus.

Really, I am going to move to Linux Mint, I think it is the future, in my opinion Ubuntu is in the wrong way.

[ogrejd]

Dear gods, so slow and inefficient and utterly useless for feature discovery... Not to mention a pain on the eyes - transparent text on a transparent background is not a good thing. Even worse is the intention to completely replace menus with this garbage.

[pgiblox]

Looks nice if you know what you want to do. But, not nearly as discoverable as a hierarchial menu. Simply because, even if the items are still in a hierarchy, this HUD thing flattens it all into a list.

[vengiss]

It looks great hopefully it won't replace the existing menus. What makes this useful is the fact that you already know what you're looking for or at least know that it exists, without menus/icons you may never know certain feature exists therefore won't be able to look for it with HUD

[meisth0th]

0:28 OMG!Ubuntu! displays IE ad, FAIL.

[falazarte]

Not good for Tablets if they want to aspire to make a dent in that market. Everything points out to tablets, I don't see this feature very useful in one,

[LEGITT]

I like the idea of the hud-cli :)

[thenatobourne]

Old Ubuntu 10.10 is much better

fuck caonical

[OSPOINT]

wow nice graphics!

[leezhieng]

What if I am a new user who doesn't know GIMP has "blur" or "shadow" or whatever feature it provides?? Am I going to read a thick manual to know what features it support and type the keyword manually, rather than clicking around the menu and see what it offers? wtf?

[PanDarK28]

Goodbye Ubuntu, hello Xubuntu

[pyjimbo]

I look forward to seeing how this works for digital content creation (DCC) in Inkscape and Gimp. I can not tell from the video if it will be laborious enough that another distribution has to be used just for DCC. Which is fine if Canonical and community want to push Ubuntu towards more casual usage than building stuff. So from what I have read the menus will be there for now but might be replaced by this in future altogether.

[dzabberro]

it would be nice, if we could enter parameters for commands. i'd propably still use keyboard shortcuts when i could.

[TheMsdos25]

this is why linux mint is more popular than ubuntu

[cobrrr]

interesting idea!

[FAKEBC]

So HUD is basically Spotlight and Help Search combined and given a given deeper integration with non-Menu settings.

[solidius4747]

It seems you guys are against everything Ubuntu make after Unity was released, whether good or bad. This will actually make the concept of using keyboard more comfortable and acceptable to end users (who will only prefer point and click in Windows), thus making the Terminal and Linux experience in general more appeal to end users. Also, I don't have to memorize billions of hotkey for every program, but can access the menu as fast as using hotkey by this new feature. Definitely will try Ubuntu.

[kahrytan]

@solidius4747 Sorry, The mouse/trackpad genie is released and can't be put back in it's back.  End Users will just end up frustrated and stop using Ubuntu. I personally hate Unity and everything designed for the shell. Unity, HUD, and everything after will spell the end of Ubuntu for End users that will just leave out of frustration.

[gerardcaulfield]

Still 10x slower than gnome-do... way too slow to be useful unfortunately.

[arukkvideoblog]

ie sponsorship?



[TheGamingGEEKx]

@arukkvideoblog Coincidence? I think so...

[Nilpferdschaf]

Let's say I just downloaded a new Image Editor and don't know all the features, should I just guess them?

[danclockable]

@Nilpferdschaf that's not the idea...

[aeof2]

how to use hud what is the key i have installed it

[MrPantelis123]

this is cool if you know what you re looking for, there should still be a way to browse through the options like with the traditional gui so you can see what is available.

[Percium]

You should show hotkey for each clicked action. So you don't enter same search filter for same action again and again and again and..

[SteamJZK]

It's very good idea, if it's will be customizable.

[CHEWStudio1]

lol I think this is a replacement for drop-down menu not the main buttons and shortcut keys and I think the menu should be there along with hud and I may use hud where its something I know exist under 8 levels of menu, however leave menus for discovery purposes please.

[Xaahu]

@CHEWStudio1 it wont replace.

[Xaahu]

@CHEWStudio1 it doesnt replace anything >> it just helps u find menus.

[ringonian]

it's the Nutrimatic Drinks Dispenser from the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation designed to make the perfect cup of tea. seriously though, i can see certain many instances where the hud is useful; and some cases where c/l or mouse is useful. in my mind, it would more sense to dock the hud (or at least provide an option for it). the one big problem i see with this i/f is if a guest user logs on. they'll be scratching their heads wondering what to do next after logon.

[TheEphesians511]

song??

[0Genus0]

In a world of computer shortcuts, I would like to know why I should replace a simple CTRL+C -> CTRL+V with typing "copy", clicking copy, typing paste and clicking "paste".

[Seboss38]

@0Genus0 As far as I know, the HUD is not going to replace regular keyboard shortcuts. It's just an alternative implementation of menus.

[qberty182]

when this will come please say u will hm?

sorry english my are

[XoRr0WBi7ch]

Its really good, modern and cool renewal for ubuntu,

can be useful BESIDE the existing ubuntu system..,

but NOT good if its gonna REPLACE the existing things.(like UI, menus and etc..)

hope its wont.. :\

[sinsiliux]

Looks promising, just two questions: does it adapt to user (common used commands are bumped to top) and why isn't first element auto selected?

[ringonian]

@sinsiliux: maybe to prevent users from carelessly using 'dd' instead of 'du'. but i see what you're saying.

[sinsiliux]

@ringonian well terminal doesn't require you to press down arrow before you can execute dd either...

[ringonian]

@sinsiliux the terminal, or rather bash shell, equivalent to that would be [tab] for auto-complete. or [tab][tab] for a listing of ambiguous commands. but i was being partly fecetious in my original comment. the jab was at the hud and not at you.

[floted]

interesting thing is that there looks like a move away from mouse on desks. to more gestures and even, voice controlled typing. Think of this application on the TV.

[bi0acid]

I think CTRL-Z is faster for Undo than CTRL-SPACE > 'Undo' > Enter. Don't really see a reason to adopt HUD now.

[ScorpionEngenhus]

looks delicious!

[ScorpionEngenhus]

looks delicious!

[ScorpionEngenhus]

looks delicious!

[ScorpionEngenhus]

looks delicious!

[louis058]

I think it'll be much easier to find a command, but you'd have to know generally what the command will be called beforehand.

The only problem I see with it is for people used to buttons to adjust to it. That was the problem with both Unity and Gnome 3 as well.

The second problem is if you aren't a touch-typist. There are plenty of people who use computers that can't type very fast, and for those people, this will be less fast, though prediction will help greatly with that.

[spasserfar78]

Innovative and a great idea. Seem like a lot of typing though.

[marsupialmente]

I'ts like a typing Siri

[Uzerc]

@marsupialmente

You're dumber than a Siri.

[Bruce222255]

love the idea, innovation, and very intuitive! Keep the awesome work up!

[HasHPIT]

how will you discover commands you dont know?

[Dominoes282]

Backtrack ftw

[jakubus007]

Clicking is faster? LoL :D Use GIMP someday :P

[HispanicImpression]

This is so Linux...

[GuyInnagorillasuit]

Looks like a lot of switching up between the keyboard and mouse. If that's the case, I don't think it'll have legs.

[ilivefortheone]

Those of us who are spelling challenged will hate this, we want to be able to be lazy. This seems the opposite of unity's march toward touch screen usability. Nail in the coffin for Ubuntu.

[hjmaltena]

Love it! will use it!

[Scheckedelick]

whats that song ? not the foo fighters, the other...

[DaFish1337]

@Scheckedelick Watch the whole video.

[Scheckedelick]

@DaFish1337 thx, im an idiot :)

[DaFish1337]

@Scheckedelick Nope, you're a human ;)

[chillyperson23]

Hmmm. Looks cool, but might need a bit of refining to make it more useful. Show the menus above where you type maybe? 

[Imyirtshashem]

Fuck.... this is absolutely the most terrible idea I've ever seen. Worse that when Unity came out...

Are the Ubuntu devs smoking crack?

[MrRobertDeanJohnson]

I agree that the hud isn't for every thing in every app but if combined correctly with voice commands this is gonna be big.

[tsdf2]

I had so much hope for Ubuntu to become an awesome OS, but it's very obvious that Canonical has no idea what people like. It started with Unity and now goes on with that shit.

[Deks90]

windows commercial on omg ubuntu ? :O

[xxturboweixx]

What if I don't wanna type or something prevents me from accessing the keyboard? Does it mean I am screwed in those scenarios?

[grey0powerlessnesss]

@xxturboweixx Disabled like me? use the virtual keyboards - several. Or voice input (best on Win7)

[brunofin12]

It's a really interesting idea, what I most liked is the nested menu thing, made the application more efficient, but some of the other functions seemed like a re-implementation of what's already available on the applications.

[14021996raf]

This is an excellent evolution of the Terminal HeheHE

[14021996raf]

@14021996raf Also has voice command OK

[FlumenSanctiViti]

What's next? Injecting opcode directly to the CPU whenever we want to access a simple command? :D

However, this HUD thingy can be nice touch as a companion to the classical interface.

[Babeman1]

@FlumenSanctiViti hahah thatd be intense. i agree though the hud is definitely an interesting new thing about ubuntu

[magecu]

In my opinion a horrible idea.

This approach is only useful to people with good memory.

I prefer to keep in memory a general idea and refine it when going trough menus.

I hated the unity "start menu". I takes me in the order of 5-10 times more time to find what I want than it did with gnome.

Oh well some will like it, I will just get another distro or go with kbuntu.

[14021996raf]

@magecu Yes but the old menu will is present. I liked the most practical and Ubuntu HUB will burst.

[AcadiaToCielo]

So it's a command-line interface to graphical applications that are usually built on a command-line interface. Wow, inception.

[webparkhr]

linuxes just want to be so keyboard oriented, it's like an obsession... i like and use ubuntu for a long time now, but THIS is a step backwards

[TheMerchantDS]

Didn't like Unity but this looks kind of cool...

[jodr666]

Come on you guys decide already, are making a Desktop OS or a Tablet one. I admit this may have some hidden potential for disable people but, you screwed it already with Unity now this.

[utubearenazis]

can you also use the regular menu, alongside the HUD?

[nathandyerdotme]

@utubearenazis Yes you can. They work great together.

[dereksbooks]

A truly terrible, terrible idea.

[RichardPetithory]

Using the menu now requires moving your hand from your mouse to type. GOOD THINKING, SHITTLEWORTH.

Please destroy this, Unity, and Gnome 3. Please stop changing that which was not broken.

[cezarluizc]

Using the HUD to change status. Totally useless. The click is faster.

[louis058]

@cezarluizc Not for me. I don't know what sequence they've mapped the HUD to, but assuming it's CTRL-SPACE, then CTRL-SPACE > 'Away' > Enter is faster than moving the mouse to click the status, then choose the status I want.

[MrMisteryWillTube]

@cezarluizc Blind people can't click faster.

[balldavida]

@cezarluizc until you factor alternative input, such as voice control. seems very useful to me.

[pghg022]

give us back the "Human" Look

Thumbs up for anyone who agrees

[Ishioka89]

This doesnt look faster than the mouse.

[SiBuTG]

What about GNOME Do ? We don't need HUD !

And Unity is sh** !

[3LFL3DA]

i like the way ubuntu is going, i like unity and most ideas are not so bad,... i dont understand why people are that much upset,... if you dont like it, there are many alternatives to ubuntu, for example you could use xfce if you like the old way...

[FreedomKnightX]

don't use hud please

if my hand on mouse

i'm lazy to move my hand on keyboard typing any word

it's will be a bad user experience

[Sjoerdd93]

@FreedomKnightX That's right.

I believe it should be an expansion of the current menus.

It would be a terrible decision if it replaced the menu, may even drive me away from Ubuntu if that was the case. (Been a loyal user since 2006)

But it would be awesome as an expansion, I'm also too lazy to move my hands towards the mouse :)

So if I'm using the keyboard, I'd use the HUD and if I were using the mouse, I'd use the classic menus...

[ManneMannen]

i did not like that there was no option for the "good" gnome gui in ubuntu anymore,

xfce -> is the answer if you dont want some fancy extra desktop CPU using fancy pantsy user meny gui =) xfce xfce xfce

[sandchemi1433jp]

why do they believe keybord is the best input system? Mouse must be best!!!

[CedsHouse]

I don't know what all of you are complaining about. Just imagine hooking this and the other search functions of Ubuntu up to speech recognition software - this would make for a great new interface for home & desktop PCs. And as opposed to the solution that Windows offers, you wouldn't even have to learn stupid new commands to access the functions of your OS. How many times have you clicked around menus, trying to find the right entry? This might easily make me switch back from Arch to Ubuntu.

[rodrigoDSTC]

You should concentrate on improving the ubuntu user experience, just like all OS do.

[kingsway8605]

These designers need to realize the world is moving from typing interfaces and towards touch based interfaces.

[lataaka]

This is really stupid. When don't they use Gnome if they can't be innovative instead of introducing something dumb as new feature? Gnome is fine.

[nickotiness]

which track plays on the background?

[TheMsdos25]

ubuntu 10.04 UI kicks this things butt

[termi892]

Just dump all this and use default Gnome again, before it's too late and you lose even more users!

[akultar]

for blondes

[NewportCraig]

Some people seem to love the idea of this & some seem to hate it, but I think we can all agree that it is in the very least interesting and inventive.

[pepenacho65]

I like it! I miss ubuntu! It's so gorgeous!

[martin82sf]

the worst. It is a step back

[GRdestroyerH2]

ubuntu doensn't even work for me!!!

[ricodelta1]

rather stupid idea actually

just a gimmick



[Taima]

I think it's a pretty interesting idea, although somewhat of a novelty, kind of like Siri can be for some people.

[wujj123456]

They should learn from the fact that people are switching to Mint... Changing UI isn't always a progress, and mostly a regression for Ubuntu since the invention of Unity.

[jas16899]

All this means is that I will switch to arch if I reinstall my OS.

[Tinosn]

Thanks so much. I've been waiting this kind of interface for years! I think that's the way interfaces should go: both beautiful and powerful. For once, GUI innovation does not come from OSX but from Ubuntu!

[meister9208]

WINDOWS 7 THE BEST.

[livinglegend1187]

Linux is incredibly user-unfriendly.

No normal person should use it.

[MrRac00n]

Oh no! I think I might actually love the new direction Ubuntu is going.... I was afraid of this.

[ydoomenaud]

One of the things I enjoy after installing a new application is navigating the menus to get an idea of what the program can do, how it conceptually groups commands, and developing a mental map of the application's abilities and paradigms. I don't see how with this interface I learn anything as I have no reference to search through, only a text search that might not give me what I actually needed.

[phatcartoon]

Looks interesting and I do see how this can be useful, but I just hope this doesn't completely replace the old menus one day. This is great for software I am familiar with. . .Not so much for software I am trying to learn.

[Xbox360fanboyer]

ubuntu sucks

Try Windows Vista