@bladerj quite a few infantry artillery pieces if not most of them are carried and used in teams of 2. But you can load it yourself but it's not very safe nor effective
@22ndSASreenactor well i mean that's not the swedish camo at all, that's just pure canadian type camo, i own a m90 uniform myself (swedish camo), look it up, it's awesome
@7570mental They're obviously new recruits firing the weapon for the first time. So why bother making a dumb ass comment like that? How very sloppy and amateurish of you.
@Jaytheroyal Yep, but its an inert RAP (Rocket Assisted Projectile) round, so there is no warhead involved, BUT there is an engine. I have no idea what the engine might do
@creccy Judging by the fumbled load and unload, these guys aren't used to firing it, and as such are probably recruits. As they are probably recruits, they are being trained in the safest manner possible, to ensure that no one gets hurt.
I'd imagine if you were handed a live rocket launcher for the first time you'd want to know what the fuck you were supposed to be doing with it.
Once they're more experienced they'll learn how to operate faster without all the commands.
@MrRWJP Faste yes - without commands hardly. Support weapons are rarely left to fire at will, so the command telling the gunner which target to engage and how (ammo, mode etc.) will be given. The gunner should then repeat the command before ordering the loader to load the gun. When the gun is loaded the loader must check that the bacblast is clear and tell the gunner when he can fire the gun. Then the gunner will warn everybody she is going to shoot a second or so before firing.
@CarlAlex2 I said "without all the commands", not "without any commands"
I'm well aware of the fact they'd still use certain commands, but the whole point is, these guys are clearly new, and as such the range master and instructors are making sure that everyone is safe by making everyone repeat every command.
With practice, they won't need to reply to every single command all the time, they will simply know what to do.
If you watch vids of experienced operators, there are very few commands.
@MrRWJP Then the gunner must tell the loader whether to unload or reload the gun depending on the situation (reengaging a missed/unkilled target, engaging another target in a group, firing another round in a multi round fire order (used with airbust HE))
You shouldn't train differnt commands/procedures when training and in when in combat,
@Ronin91 No, only if you are in a tigth area were the backblast can't escape fully backwords. But you should never put yourself in that position. It is recoilless.
@SWEmanque Let me edit myself a little, the normal firesquad don't have enough ammo with them for it to be dangerous. But many armies like the Swedish one have sett a limmit, just in case. In Sweden it is nowdays 6 shots/ man. But that is just to be on the safe side.
@PointRecce RPG from wikipedia: RPG is a transliteration of , the Russian РПГ or ручной противотанковый гранатомёт (transliterated as "ruchnoy protivotankovy granatomyot"), which translates to the English phrase "hand-held anti-tank grenade launcher". Thus rocket-propelled grenade is a backronym rather than a translation
@GunmanTheH So in your effort to look smart, you just comfirmed what I said. Its a grenade. One propelled by rockets. And I'm reffering to the RPG, not the Carl Gustaff 84mm.
This is not a real "live" grenade, I fired this weapon several times last summer, just before I quit as a sergeant in Denmark. Instead it is a gypsum round. But the shockwave is the same to the operators as a live round.
@PRFDK ...and what a concussing wave it is hey? First time I fired one; I was the number two....it sucked every ounce of air out of my lungs...I've never felt anything like that before.
Hey what do you know, good to see the 84mm on Youtube. Brings back lots of memories for me. Bloody heavy weapon to shoulder on a route march though. Thanks for sharing.
@Lucassandro25 Come to denmark, attend the NCO-School and get the opportunity to join "Hærens Kamp Skole" which is a special camp, for educating frontline NCO's, there you will get to fire almost everything:) - There might be otherways though
Clearly new recruits or something... obviating ring is not flush; im not sure why he was looking so far down the barrel and through the venturi at all; and he had a lot of trouble loading that prac round as well. I wonder are the canadian drills are different....
@yuri60014 The assistant gunner is holding the gunner in order to stabilize the firing position - it is hard to hold such a heavy weapon still while firing it from a standing or kneeling firing position.
From this angle it looks as if he should have been hugging him closer.
singapore army, we bash tru jungle with 84, heli ops with 84, climb brunei mountain with 84.. we cover 20 to 25km each mission on foot .never on vehicle. and we have to carry full pack, m16 rifle...
i must say is pretty useless, hitting enemy is like hitting jackpot, n is uselessly loud. all enemy will react on u once u fired . the only reason 84 is still available is becos it can last many years . cheap!!!
@chinchowpowpook We carry ours everywhere as well. Our Basic Training had us on a 15 km rucksac march; and it only goes up from there. We carry full gear, C7 assault rifle and Carl G as well. It's not useless when you have a vehicle in front of you that needs busting. It's more accurate than a lot else out there...and yes it is cheap. ;)
@CarlAlex2 Not that I have seen. The only laser sightings I have seen left in our service are IR lasers....but I haven't had the opportunity to use the newer and better ones on battalion yet....still stuck training with the shitty old ones.
@Adammartini that's a training ops at the range. The dude firing it probably has little more experience than you do. Give him his full training, and he'll fire that thing with more effect than any RPG7 heading his way. Canadian Forces train far better than any other. ;)
@EvilRedGoose You should see it in the field. It is insane how effective it is. Try taking a picture of someone in it; and they pretty much disappear.
@EvilRedGoose You can find them in most military surplus stores; at least here in Canada; although it isn't the actual military issue. It is the same licensed camo now; but the material is heavier and lower quality....ironically it also costs more. I can buy a set of real and better combat pants from the QM for like $25; yet the crappier ones from a military surplus store run somewhere like $65. Crappy civie knockoffs. :P
Slow and inneffective crew. Poor example. There are other film heres with same weapon but much faster (and perhaps also safer) drill.
The weaopon in not a dedicated anti-armor weapon in my opinion, but a portable gun system with sevaral kinds of ammo, including HE and Smoke. Extremely usefull. Was in a platoon with 4 of these, on top of loads ot disposables, machine guns etc, but the 84mm commanded the field. Lots of firepower for a platoon with a decent range and flexibility. Sounded a lot.
@RNKPalmer Ok, fair enough. I admit I mostly went for the speed. With very experienced crew, each move and command is very effective=a good flow, making for a higher rate of (still accurate fire). With live ammo this flow is very important as the blast get the snot out of ones skull and you have carrying the damn thing too long for risking not making the best of max 2 min.
Its not a dedicated anti-tank support weapon as implied. Easy to provde air-burst for killing soft vechicles or troop.
@xFogxofxWarx What gave you the idea that its a war crime to fire the Carl Gustav at infantry ? What do you think is the intended target for HE and ADM rounds ?
@CarlAlex2 It is illegal for us in Canada to. Ours are used exclusively for anti-vehicles. It is technically illegal to use anti-vehicle munitions on people; and Canada feels the need to charge those who do. You know the whole Robert Furlong story? Set the record distance for a sniper shot (since been beaten by a UK sniper); he was charged for using American armour piercing rounds.....gotta love the Canadian government's willingness to sell over their own troops like that. We get charged for it.
@xFogxofxWarx Did they say exactly which convention would make it illegal to fire AP or HEAT at personnel ?
There are specific anti-personnel ammunition types available - HE, which can be set to blow on impact or after at a preset range (airburst) and ADM, which turns the CG into a giant shotgun (close defence).
I am very much in favor of operating within the laws and customs of war as codified in the Hague and Geneva conventions, but it amazes me what some naive people claim they say.
@CarlAlex2 Only rounds that are designed to be used against vehicles are illegal to use against personnel. If the munition is designed for anti-personnel, then it is 100% legal to use against personnel; ours are used solely for the purpose of anti-vehicle from what I have dealt with; and so, they are illegal for us to use against personnel.
@xFogxofxWarx Please state where which convention says that.
Of course Canada is free to enact its own more restrictive laws and regulations, but AFAIK none of the conventions listed in the IHL (International Humanitarin Law) database of the ICRC (International Comitee of the Red Cross).
Are you allowed to fire .50 BMG at personnel ? It was developed as an AT round in WW1.
@CarlAlex2 I have already stated repeatedly that the Canadian Forces charge for using anti-vehicular weapons on humans.
I have no idea if it is present in any Geneva conventions; but those are one of 5 different laws that is used in armed conflict. There are several others that are not available to the public; including the Law of Armed Conflict; which does in fact prohibit the use of anti-vehicular munitions on personnel. Weapons are not to be used for what they were NOT intended for....
@xFogxofxWarx Oh there are tons of conventions regulating war - the five most important ones being the 1907 Hague (IV) convention and the four 1949 Geneva Conventions. There are LOTS of other conventions covering stuff from dumdum bullets over protection of culturally important buildings to laser weapons.
They are all available to the public and I haven't notice any of them banning the use of anti tank weapons against personnel.
@CarlAlex2 They are not all available to the public. The Law of Armed Conflict; the Rules of Engagement and the Code of Conduct are NOT available to the public. The ROEs are not even available to military personnel who are not involved in a specific mission. I do not know the ROEs of Canadian soldiers in Sudan; because I am not involved in it. The LOAC states that it is illegal to use weapons that are not issued to a soldier by his force; and only in the context they are designed for.
@xFogxofxWarx Exactly - you are talking about internal Canadian regulations.
ROE's are notorious for being written with purpose of allowing politicians (in government and military leadership) to cover their arses when the grunts do what is neccesary to survive in the situations they end up in.
However if Canada and Denmark went to war over Hans island you could NOT legally charge Danish soldiers as war criminals for firing AT weapons/ammo at you.
@CarlAlex2 Canada couldn't no; but it is not in the ROEs that it is stated the legal use of weapons designed for certain practicalities; it is in the Law of Armed Conflict; and this isn't just Canadian. It is also not available to the public, sorry. I have stated before; many nations will not charge a soldier for using a weapon in this manner; but Canada will....that's what I said off the bat; and it's what I'm saying now. I don't care if Denmark wouldn't.
@xFogxofxWarx The closest thing we have to a "law of armed conflict" is the 1907 Hague (IV) conventions annex - "Regulations concerning the Laws and Customs of War on Land"
They ban the use of poison or poisoned weapons and the use of arms, projectiles, or material calculated to cause unnecessary suffering.
The 1899 Hague declaration bans expanding bullets.
The 1868 St. Petersburg declarion bans explosive projectiles lighter than 400 g
@CarlAlex2 I know that the US does not charge soldiers for using anti-vehicular munitions on personnel (and I personally don't understand why anyone would; I can't see how overkill is inhumane), but here in Canada, we do.
@CarlAlex2 Canadian Sniper Robert Furlong had set the world record for distance shot (yes it has been beaten since then); with a .50 cal US round. He was being charged for using illegal munitions yes.
Just awful...awful! Must be the first time you've ever seen that weapon! You: loader, are supposed to be looking BEHIND the gunner when he fires to make sure nobody is in the way (and the load procedure was just horrible) and you: gunner should have all your settings sorted before you load...awful!
Terrible drills, standing BEHIND the breech as he loads the round when he should be stood to the side, and then he takes forever to get in in and close the venturi properly. As for the "unload" , Jesus wept! had these clowns ever even seen the weapon before they took it on a range?
can these be carried loaded ? cos it seems cumbersome on the battlefield to take 2 guys to slowly load this thing.
bladerj 1 month ago
@bladerj quite a few infantry artillery pieces if not most of them are carried and used in teams of 2. But you can load it yourself but it's not very safe nor effective
Draug88 7 hours ago
check the obviating band!
lynxburst 3 months ago
ill miss those times fired 2 grglys
närskydd 03/04 best time in my life
P4 LIF nsky
jaarpo 3 months ago
is it me or is the swedish camo like the canadian cadpat type?
22ndSASreenactor 5 months ago
@22ndSASreenactor cadpat :)
Ascoint87 4 months ago
@Ascoint87 cool!
22ndSASreenactor 4 months ago
@22ndSASreenactor well i mean that's not the swedish camo at all, that's just pure canadian type camo, i own a m90 uniform myself (swedish camo), look it up, it's awesome
Ascoint87 4 months ago
@Ascoint87 then why do they use it? o.0
22ndSASreenactor 4 months ago
@22ndSASreenactor No, you see that's a swedish anti-tank weapon, we export weapons alot,this is a vid of the canadians using it :)
Ascoint87 4 months ago
@Ascoint87 but it doesent sound like canadians talking o.0 still awesome AT weapon from an awesome country!
22ndSASreenactor 4 months ago
@22ndSASreenactor listen closely near the end and you'll hear it :) haha truth be told my friend!
Ascoint87 4 months ago
@22ndSASreenactor If you listen closely you'll hear it ;) Indeed!
Ascoint87 4 months ago
get to fire one tomorrow, so keen :D
2304jake 5 months ago
Not more than 10 live rounds for each shooter a day !
bunnyrabbit008 6 months ago
look at the noob and his proud noob tube.
BoxcarSteve316 6 months ago
@BoxcarSteve316 wrong
YoitsDro 5 months ago
@YoitsDro its the noob tube in battle field bad company 2
BoxcarSteve316 5 months ago
CG noob ^_^
Travis2nsk 6 months ago
wow
jekerism 6 months ago
Med den farten skulle ni varit borta i ett skarpt läge.
GRG -88 Färnebo Kompani
8530ica 6 months ago
@8530ica Så sant, men dedär killarna är inte svenskar....
bum291 6 months ago
somebody's nervous!
OnsetOfPutrefaction 7 months ago
ye..cool gun, a bit heavy though
reddevil911 7 months ago
Those are Canadian troops right? I know they use the Gustav recoilless rifle.
Pre114 8 months ago
@Pre114 yes
resuberance 8 months ago
@Pre114 correct, we use them. they have proven to be the most powerful missle launcher
nroland99 7 months ago
Looks very sloppy and amateurish!
7570mental 8 months ago
@7570mental They're obviously new recruits firing the weapon for the first time. So why bother making a dumb ass comment like that? How very sloppy and amateurish of you.
resuberance 8 months ago
Looks very sloppy and amateurish!
7570mental 8 months ago
battlefield bad company 2?
luischifrutt 9 months ago
what type of munitions they using?
wdulmage 9 months ago
@wdulmage that bue one is a trainee amunition
boehserpaul1989 9 months ago
@boehserpaul1989 ah I see. I remember having read that they developed a multitude of different rounds specifically for the Carl Gustav.
wdulmage 9 months ago
@wdulmage HEAT, HEAT RAP, tandem HEAT RAP, HE, Smoke, Illumination, ADM (giant shotgun) plus training rounds.
CarlAlex2 9 months ago
The rubber band needs to be closer to the end of the venturi!
Fail on safety (Joke):)
Holidats 9 months ago
I used to hate those things...bloody Charlie G pain in the arse..
dpenz 9 months ago
what would happen if he hit the wall infront
mokgboy 9 months ago
@mokgboy nothing theres is a 20m arming distance for the warhead
Jaytheroyal 9 months ago
@Jaytheroyal Yep, but its an inert RAP (Rocket Assisted Projectile) round, so there is no warhead involved, BUT there is an engine. I have no idea what the engine might do
CarlAlex2 9 months ago
hehe its the same one from bfbc2 ^^
CoolFuux 10 months ago
1:02 if u want to see teh shoot!!
Spiders306 10 months ago
-Target destroyed
-I knoooow
PietereQ 10 months ago 13
@PietereQ you probably got this alot, its unload, not i know.
lynxburst 3 months ago
Thank god Sweden is on our side.
damaster77854 10 months ago
Gustav noob :p
TehEggy 10 months ago
ohhh i always thought it was a rocket launcher, not a re-coiless rifle!!
two0sixTay 11 months ago
only noobs use this
Merk0 11 months ago 2
@Merk0
Noobs like the US Military you mean?
TheEmmausRoad 11 months ago
Canada FTW
ClaydinJamez 11 months ago
time he decides to stop fuckin about the enemy armour has pissed off lets hope with practise the loader dont have to screw the round in
creccy 11 months ago
@creccy Judging by the fumbled load and unload, these guys aren't used to firing it, and as such are probably recruits. As they are probably recruits, they are being trained in the safest manner possible, to ensure that no one gets hurt.
I'd imagine if you were handed a live rocket launcher for the first time you'd want to know what the fuck you were supposed to be doing with it.
Once they're more experienced they'll learn how to operate faster without all the commands.
MrRWJP 11 months ago
@MrRWJP Faste yes - without commands hardly. Support weapons are rarely left to fire at will, so the command telling the gunner which target to engage and how (ammo, mode etc.) will be given. The gunner should then repeat the command before ordering the loader to load the gun. When the gun is loaded the loader must check that the bacblast is clear and tell the gunner when he can fire the gun. Then the gunner will warn everybody she is going to shoot a second or so before firing.
CarlAlex2 11 months ago
@CarlAlex2 I said "without all the commands", not "without any commands"
I'm well aware of the fact they'd still use certain commands, but the whole point is, these guys are clearly new, and as such the range master and instructors are making sure that everyone is safe by making everyone repeat every command.
With practice, they won't need to reply to every single command all the time, they will simply know what to do.
If you watch vids of experienced operators, there are very few commands.
MrRWJP 11 months ago
@MrRWJP Then the gunner must tell the loader whether to unload or reload the gun depending on the situation (reengaging a missed/unkilled target, engaging another target in a group, firing another round in a multi round fire order (used with airbust HE))
You shouldn't train differnt commands/procedures when training and in when in combat,
CarlAlex2 11 months ago
time he decides to stop fuckin about the ememny armour has pissed off lets hope with practise the loader dont have to screw the round in
creccy 11 months ago
The cement round.
goodtimes616 1 year ago
Swedish quality!!:)
MrBentleyBrooklands 1 year ago 49
Not used to the weapon. Clear from the loading and removing of the shell...
DrMabuse1000 1 year ago
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Obviously, lol these are canadians!
jerryheilman 1 year ago
we have those in canada!
ColinouRugby 1 year ago
this should be in call of duty
jmantime 1 year ago
@jmantime its in battlefield bad company 2 btw
tyu632 1 year ago
Hot Carl nub.....
GR3B3N 1 year ago
Is it true your body needs to recover before you shoot this multiple times?
Ronin91 1 year ago
@Ronin91 No, only if you are in a tigth area were the backblast can't escape fully backwords. But you should never put yourself in that position. It is recoilless.
SWEmanque 1 year ago
@SWEmanque Let me edit myself a little, the normal firesquad don't have enough ammo with them for it to be dangerous. But many armies like the Swedish one have sett a limmit, just in case. In Sweden it is nowdays 6 shots/ man. But that is just to be on the safe side.
SWEmanque 1 year ago
Basic Infantry Qualification?
PcGamerPaul 1 year ago
Why does some people think this is an RPG? Its a grenade launcher right?
GodHatesWar 1 year ago
@GodHatesWar No.
MrBEpally 1 year ago
@MrBEpally Really? It fires a Greande projectile, is it a Recoilless Rifle?
GodHatesWar 1 year ago
@GodHatesWar Yes it is. The gas is ejected at the back, therefor no recoil occurs.
homer5995 1 year ago
@GodHatesWar Yes it is a recoilless rifle, it is designed that way. RPG stands for Rocket Propelled Grenade but this isnt an RPG
DaReaperZ 1 year ago
@GodHatesWar What does RPG stand for? Rocket Propelled Grenade. you just answered you own question
PointRecce 1 year ago
@PointRecce What?
GodHatesWar 1 year ago
@PointRecce RPG from wikipedia: RPG is a transliteration of , the Russian РПГ or ручной противотанковый гранатомёт (transliterated as "ruchnoy protivotankovy granatomyot"), which translates to the English phrase "hand-held anti-tank grenade launcher". Thus rocket-propelled grenade is a backronym rather than a translation
GunmanTheH 1 year ago
@GunmanTheH So in your effort to look smart, you just comfirmed what I said. Its a grenade. One propelled by rockets. And I'm reffering to the RPG, not the Carl Gustaff 84mm.
PointRecce 1 year ago
@PointRecce ah, sorry. That was supposed to be on that GodHatesWar.
GunmanTheH 1 year ago
i have fired one off these, in the military in sweden : P
TheJrbfilms 1 year ago 28
@TheJrbfilms I fired 1 in the Irish army and I'm only 19.
265CoJ 7 months ago
@265CoJ and your point is?
pross634 6 months ago
An taliban insurgent can fire his rpg-7 faster!
nunvikingsofthesea 1 year ago
@nunvikingsofthesea so can a Canadian soldier. those are recruits firing that for the first time.
xFogxofxWarx 1 year ago
@nunvikingsofthesea Sure, and then you read from news about Taliban shooting their RPG-s backwards by accident :D
ksiimson 1 year ago
Target Destroy!!! jajaja muuy bueno el fierro.
Heineser 1 year ago
This is not a real "live" grenade, I fired this weapon several times last summer, just before I quit as a sergeant in Denmark. Instead it is a gypsum round. But the shockwave is the same to the operators as a live round.
PRFDK 1 year ago
@PRFDK ...and what a concussing wave it is hey? First time I fired one; I was the number two....it sucked every ounce of air out of my lungs...I've never felt anything like that before.
xFogxofxWarx 1 year ago
Hey what do you know, good to see the 84mm on Youtube. Brings back lots of memories for me. Bloody heavy weapon to shoulder on a route march though. Thanks for sharing.
BlackDiver777 1 year ago
I fucking hate this gun on BC2. Real life it pwns.
michaelhoangtin 1 year ago
@michaelhoangtin it ain't a gun
PulisSniper 1 year ago
@PulisSniper actually; technically it is. It's an 84mm recoilless rifle.
xFogxofxWarx 1 year ago
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canadian army.
if you guys havnt noticed
PcGamerPaul 1 year ago
what do you have to do in the army to get the occasion to fire the Carl Gustav?
Lucassandro25 1 year ago
@Lucassandro25
Not sure about the french army but in Sweden more or less all parts of the army/amphibious forces use the CG.
Laessker 1 year ago
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BlackDiver777 1 year ago
@Lucassandro25 Come to denmark, attend the NCO-School and get the opportunity to join "Hærens Kamp Skole" which is a special camp, for educating frontline NCO's, there you will get to fire almost everything:) - There might be otherways though
PRFDK 1 year ago
@PRFDK Sounds cool :D Do you need to talk danish to go to this school?
Lucassandro25 1 year ago
Clearly new recruits or something... obviating ring is not flush; im not sure why he was looking so far down the barrel and through the venturi at all; and he had a lot of trouble loading that prac round as well. I wonder are the canadian drills are different....
funks88 1 year ago
why is he holding him?
yuri60014 1 year ago
@yuri60014 The assistant gunner is holding the gunner in order to stabilize the firing position - it is hard to hold such a heavy weapon still while firing it from a standing or kneeling firing position.
From this angle it looks as if he should have been hugging him closer.
CarlAlex2 1 year ago
@CarlAlex2
looks gay, i'd rather fire an RPG-7 and miss my target, at least i don't have to be hugged to shoot it, and it's reusable.
yuri60014 1 year ago
Again this Carl Gustav noobs.
gertuberger 1 year ago
Someone ban this Gustav NOOB OMFG.
ManSmokingACigarette 1 year ago
aaah good old swedish engineering...
UserAndr5773 1 year ago
Carl Gustav Noobs ;)
TheRestPL 1 year ago
Carl Gustav is considered a rife, because it shoots projectiles from shells rather than a propelled rocket.
tarjr94 1 year ago
@xFogxofxWarx
singapore army, we bash tru jungle with 84, heli ops with 84, climb brunei mountain with 84.. we cover 20 to 25km each mission on foot .never on vehicle. and we have to carry full pack, m16 rifle...
i must say is pretty useless, hitting enemy is like hitting jackpot, n is uselessly loud. all enemy will react on u once u fired . the only reason 84 is still available is becos it can last many years . cheap!!!
chinchowpowpook 1 year ago
@chinchowpowpook We carry ours everywhere as well. Our Basic Training had us on a 15 km rucksac march; and it only goes up from there. We carry full gear, C7 assault rifle and Carl G as well. It's not useless when you have a vehicle in front of you that needs busting. It's more accurate than a lot else out there...and yes it is cheap. ;)
xFogxofxWarx 1 year ago
@xFogxofxWarx And very versatile given the ammo types available.
Do you have laser range finders on them in Canada ?
CarlAlex2 1 year ago
@CarlAlex2 Not that I have seen. The only laser sightings I have seen left in our service are IR lasers....but I haven't had the opportunity to use the newer and better ones on battalion yet....still stuck training with the shitty old ones.
xFogxofxWarx 1 year ago
over a min to shoot in real life ud be dead
Adammartini 1 year ago
@Adammartini that's a training ops at the range. The dude firing it probably has little more experience than you do. Give him his full training, and he'll fire that thing with more effect than any RPG7 heading his way. Canadian Forces train far better than any other. ;)
xFogxofxWarx 1 year ago
RCR has reservists? Oh wait the 4th "battalion" riiiiiiiight. This guy is junk.
guest426 1 year ago
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xFogxofxWarx 1 year ago
If they went through all this talking shit in the battlefield their be dead :P
xXLIAM189Xx 1 year ago
@xXLIAM189Xx hence why they do it in training; so they know how to do it right on the battlefield.
xFogxofxWarx 1 year ago
@xFogxofxWarx ahhh right, supose they wouldnt talk in the battlefield anyway, their just shoot .
xXLIAM189Xx 1 year ago
Is that Swedish camo or Canadian? Or something else?
EvilRedGoose 1 year ago
@EvilRedGoose It is not swedish camo. Swedish camo are large angular fields of primarily green and black.
Andreask93 1 year ago
@Andreask93 it's Cadpat. That is a Canadian issued gear. They are Canadian soldiers; I would guess RCR by the French and English in the video.
xFogxofxWarx 1 year ago
@EvilRedGoose Canadian. It's called Cadpat. I have that gear. ;)
xFogxofxWarx 1 year ago
@xFogxofxWarx ah yes,that was the word i was looking for :D
EvilRedGoose 1 year ago
@EvilRedGoose You should see it in the field. It is insane how effective it is. Try taking a picture of someone in it; and they pretty much disappear.
xFogxofxWarx 1 year ago
@xFogxofxWarx lol i will have to try it :D
EvilRedGoose 1 year ago
@EvilRedGoose You can find them in most military surplus stores; at least here in Canada; although it isn't the actual military issue. It is the same licensed camo now; but the material is heavier and lower quality....ironically it also costs more. I can buy a set of real and better combat pants from the QM for like $25; yet the crappier ones from a military surplus store run somewhere like $65. Crappy civie knockoffs. :P
xFogxofxWarx 1 year ago
Carl Gustav noob! Dont shoot at Inf. *banned*
schatzinator 1 year ago
the worst weapon in history, shouldn't call light at all...is a dinosaurs weapon. heavy dumbo .only do harmful weight to soldiers
chinchowpowpook 1 year ago
@chinchowpowpook and you've used it in combat when?
xFogxofxWarx 1 year ago
Slow and inneffective crew. Poor example. There are other film heres with same weapon but much faster (and perhaps also safer) drill.
The weaopon in not a dedicated anti-armor weapon in my opinion, but a portable gun system with sevaral kinds of ammo, including HE and Smoke. Extremely usefull. Was in a platoon with 4 of these, on top of loads ot disposables, machine guns etc, but the 84mm commanded the field. Lots of firepower for a platoon with a decent range and flexibility. Sounded a lot.
ghanaboyz 1 year ago
@ghanaboyz I cannot see any problems with his firearms drill, its target practice not a range day blat.
RNKPalmer 1 year ago
@RNKPalmer Ok, fair enough. I admit I mostly went for the speed. With very experienced crew, each move and command is very effective=a good flow, making for a higher rate of (still accurate fire). With live ammo this flow is very important as the blast get the snot out of ones skull and you have carrying the damn thing too long for risking not making the best of max 2 min.
Its not a dedicated anti-tank support weapon as implied. Easy to provde air-burst for killing soft vechicles or troop.
ghanaboyz 1 year ago
@ghanaboyz Ever seen the damage from a Carl G? It's not used against troops, that is a war crime.
xFogxofxWarx 1 year ago
@xFogxofxWarx What gave you the idea that its a war crime to fire the Carl Gustav at infantry ? What do you think is the intended target for HE and ADM rounds ?
CarlAlex2 1 year ago
@CarlAlex2 It is illegal for us in Canada to. Ours are used exclusively for anti-vehicles. It is technically illegal to use anti-vehicle munitions on people; and Canada feels the need to charge those who do. You know the whole Robert Furlong story? Set the record distance for a sniper shot (since been beaten by a UK sniper); he was charged for using American armour piercing rounds.....gotta love the Canadian government's willingness to sell over their own troops like that. We get charged for it.
xFogxofxWarx 1 year ago
@xFogxofxWarx Did they say exactly which convention would make it illegal to fire AP or HEAT at personnel ?
There are specific anti-personnel ammunition types available - HE, which can be set to blow on impact or after at a preset range (airburst) and ADM, which turns the CG into a giant shotgun (close defence).
I am very much in favor of operating within the laws and customs of war as codified in the Hague and Geneva conventions, but it amazes me what some naive people claim they say.
CarlAlex2 1 year ago
@CarlAlex2 Only rounds that are designed to be used against vehicles are illegal to use against personnel. If the munition is designed for anti-personnel, then it is 100% legal to use against personnel; ours are used solely for the purpose of anti-vehicle from what I have dealt with; and so, they are illegal for us to use against personnel.
xFogxofxWarx 1 year ago
@xFogxofxWarx Please state where which convention says that.
Of course Canada is free to enact its own more restrictive laws and regulations, but AFAIK none of the conventions listed in the IHL (International Humanitarin Law) database of the ICRC (International Comitee of the Red Cross).
Are you allowed to fire .50 BMG at personnel ? It was developed as an AT round in WW1.
CarlAlex2 1 year ago
@CarlAlex2 I have already stated repeatedly that the Canadian Forces charge for using anti-vehicular weapons on humans.
I have no idea if it is present in any Geneva conventions; but those are one of 5 different laws that is used in armed conflict. There are several others that are not available to the public; including the Law of Armed Conflict; which does in fact prohibit the use of anti-vehicular munitions on personnel. Weapons are not to be used for what they were NOT intended for....
xFogxofxWarx 1 year ago
@xFogxofxWarx Oh there are tons of conventions regulating war - the five most important ones being the 1907 Hague (IV) convention and the four 1949 Geneva Conventions. There are LOTS of other conventions covering stuff from dumdum bullets over protection of culturally important buildings to laser weapons.
They are all available to the public and I haven't notice any of them banning the use of anti tank weapons against personnel.
CarlAlex2 1 year ago
@CarlAlex2 They are not all available to the public. The Law of Armed Conflict; the Rules of Engagement and the Code of Conduct are NOT available to the public. The ROEs are not even available to military personnel who are not involved in a specific mission. I do not know the ROEs of Canadian soldiers in Sudan; because I am not involved in it. The LOAC states that it is illegal to use weapons that are not issued to a soldier by his force; and only in the context they are designed for.
xFogxofxWarx 1 year ago
@xFogxofxWarx Exactly - you are talking about internal Canadian regulations.
ROE's are notorious for being written with purpose of allowing politicians (in government and military leadership) to cover their arses when the grunts do what is neccesary to survive in the situations they end up in.
However if Canada and Denmark went to war over Hans island you could NOT legally charge Danish soldiers as war criminals for firing AT weapons/ammo at you.
CarlAlex2 1 year ago
@CarlAlex2 Canada couldn't no; but it is not in the ROEs that it is stated the legal use of weapons designed for certain practicalities; it is in the Law of Armed Conflict; and this isn't just Canadian. It is also not available to the public, sorry. I have stated before; many nations will not charge a soldier for using a weapon in this manner; but Canada will....that's what I said off the bat; and it's what I'm saying now. I don't care if Denmark wouldn't.
xFogxofxWarx 1 year ago
@xFogxofxWarx The closest thing we have to a "law of armed conflict" is the 1907 Hague (IV) conventions annex - "Regulations concerning the Laws and Customs of War on Land"
They ban the use of poison or poisoned weapons and the use of arms, projectiles, or material calculated to cause unnecessary suffering.
The 1899 Hague declaration bans expanding bullets.
The 1868 St. Petersburg declarion bans explosive projectiles lighter than 400 g
What bans AT outside Canada ?
CarlAlex2 1 year ago
@CarlAlex2 I know that the US does not charge soldiers for using anti-vehicular munitions on personnel (and I personally don't understand why anyone would; I can't see how overkill is inhumane), but here in Canada, we do.
xFogxofxWarx 1 year ago
@CarlAlex2 Canadian Sniper Robert Furlong had set the world record for distance shot (yes it has been beaten since then); with a .50 cal US round. He was being charged for using illegal munitions yes.
xFogxofxWarx 1 year ago
Tube noob!
TheBlackNotWhite 1 year ago
in BFBC2 it looks faster lol
togogot0 1 year ago
@togogot0 haha thought the same thing ^^
RichnerDK 1 year ago
loader. please stand bside the gunner when you load. not behind. cheers,84mm commander
IXXVIIX 1 year ago
fact is Sweden makes the best Anti-Tank weapons. which is they they buy from Sweden and do joint R&D programs with them
Dogmeat1950 1 year ago
wow they made that shit look so much harder than it really is
SuperSpeaker123 1 year ago
That's 25(push-ups?) there sweet-pea..lol
Leftie84 1 year ago
wtf was this? Must be both guys first time... And even if that's the case, they sucked ass
Pinocheck 1 year ago
@Pinocheck like to see you try and fire that
HolyAssassin167 1 year ago
@HolyAssassin167 I have actually, on numerous occations and I'm a zillion times faster.
Pinocheck 1 year ago
@Pinocheck well i look like a twat now lol, well good to know you can fire that thing quick
HolyAssassin167 1 year ago
this is a very nice swedish weapon.RPG 7 is a pice of paper against this
mrtumgum 1 year ago 2
Just awful...awful! Must be the first time you've ever seen that weapon! You: loader, are supposed to be looking BEHIND the gunner when he fires to make sure nobody is in the way (and the load procedure was just horrible) and you: gunner should have all your settings sorted before you load...awful!
sgterikericson 1 year ago
Fucking Gustav Noob!! no skill req bitch
Denek1337 1 year ago
@Denek1337 hahaha so true
SPETZZBRO 1 year ago
....why did it take u so long....
Sparekassen 1 year ago
Chuck Norris does this by himself.
itsARATA 1 year ago
@itsARATA and shoots from the hip.
rongallant 1 year ago
@rongallant He shoots from the testicles because the hip is dual wielding miniguns.
itsARATA 1 year ago
FIRE! now where is that trigger........
waterbuffalo31 1 year ago
he f***in took his time picking the ammo up. they would all be dead by the time it's in the barrel if at war
toosas 1 year ago
@toosas. I guess thats why you dont train soldiers on the battlefield.
SoPlEoReD 1 year ago
hopefully its not like this in combat or by the time they done talking the bad guys already left or killed them.
luiskilla91592 1 year ago
Training round.
eskes762 1 year ago
was the m2 cg made by someone named carl gustav? thats a cool name
TheLastSliceOfPie 1 year ago
@TheLastSliceOfPie AFAIK the Carl Gustav is named after the factory where it is produced - there are also lots of hunting rifles named "Carl Gustav"
CarlAlex2 1 year ago
Terrible drills, standing BEHIND the breech as he loads the round when he should be stood to the side, and then he takes forever to get in in and close the venturi properly. As for the "unload" , Jesus wept! had these clowns ever even seen the weapon before they took it on a range?
paddy864 1 year ago