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  • Going stargate units usually isn't best vs a marauder army since it is really easy for them to go to vikings since they were probably working up to getting medivacs anyway. Immortal + Coloss is better since the only units they have available to them that are good against immortals are marines and thanks to their tech labs their production is slowed. With the colossus those marines go down as well, forcing vikings instead of medivacs, by which time you should hopefully have done lots of damage.

  • marauders aren't op, and they can't compare to stalkers directly.. every unit has it's strength.. e.g stalkers can also attack air units, while marauders don't.. etc... I really think that SC2 races are pretty balanced right now.. but what do I know, I'm just a gold newb wating to go plat :D cheers

  • @bboysil Marauders aren't overpowered at all, the races are balanced quite well. However, as a silver protoss player wanting to go gold, I can say for a fact that marauder rushes are extremely difficult to hold off. Even after boosting out my first three immortals, they end up getting melted and I die.

    Of course: an equally valid argument is that it's difficult to hold off four gates, or that it's difficult to hold off early void harass.

    But yeah, marauder rushes are annoying.

  • @bboysil Marauders beat stalker one on one...

  • Oh wow, protoss players lamenting over marauders being OP? (not the video, I mean the comments) Well I quit my VoidCraft2 account for being constantly whored by Protoss players (and being too busy on RL than having time to bother about a means against photon cannon/void rushes).

  • how the name of the map???

  • I'm so glad I sold my MarauderCraft2 account. Such an unbalanced game.

    A tier 2 unit with the cost of a 1 tier unit... great idea blizzard to piss on the protoss players

  • I deal with Marauders like I do with any of my strats, mass cannons and Void Rays.

  • @TehRockLobsterr with mass voids u are a noob

  • @OfficialLetsPlayer It's a joke, Rays are OPed.

  • @TehRockLobsterr yes ^^mass rays are so op :)

  • I think this video´s confrontations are wrong in the sense that you should put zealots on the front to hit marauders and stalkers behind also hitting them ... marauders will be forced to hit zealots and you´ll get a better chance against them ... also, If you tech the CHARGE on your zealots soon enough you´ll kill them more easily ... I think. I also have huge trouble with marauders ... I DO THINK they are not well balanced and right NOW they ... ARE ... unfair. Blizzard: Please take notes.

  • idea: ff ramp when they get up and send in zealots+sentries and ff their escape

  • WELL EXPLAINED good work

    

  • i just realised...mauraders cant be OP because they have no aa capabilites...their the only unit of the value (or around that) that doesnt have aa

  • how do you make 100 vs 100 thing ?

  • how about capped hydras vs capped marauders? no tech/atk/def upgrades

  • nothing is OP, there is a counter to everything in the game, its balanced completely fairly. Why do you think it's so popular? Because the game flows so well.

  • look at those zerg

    zerg is op

    ban zerg

  • Zealots are actually good early game vs marauders when mixed with stalkers because zealots have a higher dps then stalkers and are more of a tank so if the marauders try microing against the zealots it would take forever to kill and by time they get close to killing the zealots the stalkers have done there work, and if they don't micro you just destroy them.

  • @Guitar5hit

    yu forget that while changing the protoss army you must also think about the terran army

    and yur reasoning is very statistical.

    yu probably just googled the stats and said that....doubt yu actually play protoss possibly even starcraft 2 on a regular basis

  • @eQNoxious I play both terran and protoss in diamond I have enough experience with the match up to know early game composition

  • marauders are op. thats it.

  • @xxAlexLoves182xx protoss is op

  • @eQNoxious terran OP.

  • how you spawn units?

  • RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE

  • cortex!

  • spells...

  • MAKE IMMORTALS!!!! LIKE A TOSS!!! THEY NEVER DIE!!! LIKE A TOSS!!!

  • how do u get the spawner and how did u get 24 voidrays without cheat?

  • Terran is ownining protoss units. It means...

    zerg op.

  • terrans OP

  • from what i have seen you are just putting maurders against all the units they are good against and can counter well :/ not your best video

  • @julesdavieshinds he's just pointing out that as protoss you'll need to get a robo up asap when fighting marauders.

  • I think the problem is that Marauders have slow, which is a counter against zealots, and anti-armor bonus, which makes them equally viable as a counter against both zealots and stalkers...

    however, tier 1, a combination of stalker, sentry, and zealot can work better than a mass, unmicro'd wave battle. You only need a couple of sentries to guardian shield an entire army, and that -2 damage really hurts Marauder DPS against light and marine DPS, stalkers can DPS while zealots tank marauder slow.

  • what map is this?

  • And this is why you make sure to mix your units kids.

  • At 0:51 is just like the civil war...

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  • @lambodgod2316 ...... Your a bitch

  • Umm as zerg i make alot of zerglings, as protoss i die (but thats what this video.is for rite? Teaching us how to counter as protoss?) and as terran i make marines

  • @DCstarcraft2

    It is a suggestion to how you can stop early Marauder play, yet that some things can counter the counter as a protoss. Marauders are strong throughout the game, and their extra damage against armoured units makes them even more dangerous. But there are many things they can't do anything against.

  • you forgot darktempler en high templer en archon

  • i wonder if marauders were affected by any patches over the last year since this vid.

  • @darkzero967 nop

  • hey idk husky played cortex rp am i the only one that noticed the map and isnt bitching about the video

  • @nilegod1 yes your the only one that noticed the map...

  • Lambofgod2316 Stop being a little cunt like your dead mom. Marauders are clearly OP you terran piece of shit. It is the worst unit ever. Husky is clearly showing us WHY and HOW it is so fucking OP especially against protoss. GG no re, go get cannon rushed bitch.

  • @Danny34523465 true early game they can have 5 marauders out and we 4 stalkers see how to stop that

  • dont stalkers do extra vs armored 2 ? plus they got sheilds DO NOT UNDERSTAND i think that P is OP i late game yet maruders can kill units with 30 more hp then them

    DO NOT UNDERSTAND

  • @Wijrobloxian they do 4 more damage. marauders do DOUBLE damage. they are specifically made to counter heavy ground. stalkers can hit air units. i kinda consider marauders to be more like immortals than stalkers. stalkers are ranged support units, marauders are assault units.

  • this actually helped me out alot against protoss bc im terran most of the time

  • did he do this in map editior, or a custom map

  • Protoss is the micro race. If you don't micro you lose every time. And zealot legs with a surround own Marauders. :p

  • lol shut up husky you noob. dont make vids crying about balance WHICH IN FACT IS WHAT THIS VIDEO IS NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY. your fucking stupid husky no shit 100 muraders would win, they fucking counter stalkers. you make me sick dude

  • @Lambofgod2316 He isn't crying about "balance". He is simply stating that Marauders are a hard unit to counter early game (when playing Protoss), as they can counter/beat a lot of early gateway units.

  • @ExampleJared blah blah. shut up fool, i know Husky is bias bro, i listen to his casts. i dont need you input i know for a fact.lol listen to him. Husky is a joke, if you say "im not talking about balance"...your talking about balance..

  • @Lambofgod2316 : wtf Husky said it like 20 times, he's not talking about balance or complaining about anything. Quit trolling. He even explained strategies to use against early marauders. He's not saying that there's no way to counter them, or anything like that. Like he said, "They counter every gateway unit," and then recommending building immortals quickly in order to deal with the marauders. I can't possibly see how you could support your argument, so just stop. Now.

  • @Fangscream You're a fucking idiot. Shut the fuck up, Husky is a bias bitch bro. I dont even play terran or toss. When you make a video saying that 1 unit counters every gateway unit thats fucking crying. You dont see fucking Psy or HD making videos "Why marines/zealots/sentries/helio­ns/stalkers/marauders" are hard to stop as Zerg. Husky is a little bitch lol and so are you for defending him. Who cares if husky sucks and cant beat a simple marauder rush?

  • @Lambofgod2316 : You make no sense. He repeatedly stated in the video that he isn't trying to say that marauders are overpowered, even GIVING A SOLUTION to going against them. I already said this before. Giving unbiased information is not CRYING. If you took any sort of English language training, you would know that. And no it's NOT biased because he gave direct, unopinionated info on countering marauders and you turn it all into some sort of personal attack! Cool your jets.

  • @Fangscream unbiased might not be correct, husky plays Protoss

  • @ArjayBlogs : So what if he plays Protoss? That doesn't make any difference. He's not biased because he's not adding any big opinions to the fact that gateway units do not do well against marauders in general. Sorry if I sound offensive, but I've kinda had enough with replies on this video. btw, definition of what being biased means : a tendency of having a prejudiced consideration of a question or subject. Very similar to the actual definition of prejudice.

  • @Fangscream Ironically he's wrong about zealots. Zealots with sentry support these days are a standard unit again any terran ball.

  • @Fangscream Well yes and bias comes from being towards a side, so if you get a football fan to comment on a match that his team is in no matter how nice they are there is always that little bit of bias in there always will be. I didnt go oh you are wrong he was so bias in this, look at your comment i responded to you are in a full on argument over youtube. The video itself is bias, who only has pure stalker in early game? The video is devised in a way that will make marauders looks stronger.

  • @ArjayBlogs no shit, everybody who plays starcraft plays a race, idiot

  • @Fangscream you are sooo dumd unbiased? fuck huskey plays protoss retard

  • @starcraftboy69 : Shut the hell up and open a dictionary, my friend.

  • @Fangscream

    rofl. im not trying to offend you, but you're a fucking faggot. grow a fucking brain, retard.

  • @Lambofgod2316 You do play terran dont lie, you can tell terran player.s THey swear a ton and have no idea how the game works. ITS AN OBJECTIVE FACT THAT MARAUDERS BEAT GATEWAY UNITS! L2P 1a mmm guy

  • Oh please, P = 1A

  • immortals are always a good choice. I tend to go 3 gate robo bay myself when in PvT

  • Zealot+sentry beats marauders, the sentries forcefields enable the zealots to attack them, and zealots when in a straight up fight beat marauders.

  • To be honest husky this video was useless and a waste of your time :P try out in game situations like you said. please and tank you!!!!

  • Chance of early reaper. LoL! That is something I have not seen for a while.

    3:11 Awesome last Zealot to die took a Marauder with him (bottom of Marauder army).

  • husky is biased on toss

    hd is biased on zerg

    force is biased on terran

    thumbs up

  • Hustky, you didn't test a mixture of zealots, sentry with shields and stalkers vs. marauders. A balanced unit composition probably would have fared much better...

  • Something tells me this video isn't entierly acurate :p

  • very good vid! thank you!

  • huskys u sound like pussy in this vid wtf??

  • phoenix, fast n deadly to marauders

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  • 5:46 LOL 4 Maraduers in the WATER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • watch?LMdDmbpmIRw&feature=BFa&­list=PLF59C205B0B64C9F7&lf=mh_­lolz

  • zealots own rauds, dumbass.. :I

  • What a moron..

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  • Lol protoss whining about Marauders whey they got those fucking zealots earlier in game... ridiculous

  • @Robarch89 how so? marauders kite zealots. If your talking about a zealot rush just block off...

  • @Robarch89 ya microing away from zealots with marines is incredibly difficult. It isn't like your unit is faster, and has range.

  • @Robarch89 Hahaha, you didn't even watch the video did you? The zealots got decimated, and you would be kiting them so not a single marauder would be lost. Your one unit marauder is good against almost every one ground unit we have. Stimpack with marauders will own our units. Whining as Terran about Zealots is a very, very, VERY sad sight.

  • @ZeroD3lta Which part of "EARLIER" didnt you get smart guy ?

  • @Robarch89 Haha, marauder slow. You failed. Rapes Stalkers, Sentries, AND Zealots because of kiting. Your argument is invalid.

  • @ZeroD3lta Seriously improve your english.. I was talkinga bout early game, marauders need more time than zealots to be made you genius I know they Kite and Slow but on early game they are hard to stop

  • @Robarch89 Why are you going onto a tangent about my ability to speak English? When was using two periods and "talkinga bout" proper English? So more examples, "...marauders need more time than zealots to be made genius. I know...", and I was talking about "the" early game.

    It takes no brains to criticize. Tell me exactly how they are SO difficult to be stopped? Because of a 2 gate proxy? Wall off. Concussive shells is a fast upgrade to get. And tell me when you're out of the bronze league.

  • @ZeroD3lta Oh my god this is the 3rd time answering you,can't you really undersand what I'm saying ? You should go out of bronze league to understand what I'm talking about, get back to me when you learned something

    ( Gold League )

  • @Robarch89 Ouch... My feelings are crippled. I am being insulted by a gold league scrub. I'm just so horrible in my platinum league I guess. By the way, you still haven't told me how zealot are hard to deal with in the early game, nor did you improve your English. If you are having trouble with zealots in the early game you might as well be bronze league. Have a nice day!!! =D!

  • @ZeroD3lta 4th answer... You fail dude sorry I said for 3 times the same thing and yet you can't understand... you must have some issues with your brain

  • @Robarch89 Uh... Herp Derp... You failed to mention me reasons of why they are hard in the early game besides Zealots train faster. Your English has gotten even worse by the way bro... =(. I don't know what to think, but to show you myself. Just as a politician would, you dodge the question, so you don't have actually answer it which is sad. And I'm willing at anytime to kick your ass as a Terran and you as Protoss to show you this as well. I'll even give you the clan chat, "Goldleaguescrub".

  • @ZeroD3lta LOL dude you got serious issues with english ! I said Zealots are hard to stop in early game because you most likely wont close against a protoss because ( if you really are a Plat you should know ) stalkers can hit your shit by shooting and you cant fight properly... So if protoss goes early zealot rush if you dont scout it it's very hard to stop as Marauders are slower to make and costs more and they need Vespene too, while Zealots are just 100 Minerals, here it ends "Plat"

  • @Robarch89 25 vespene gas... Are you seriously going to say that's expensive? Bull shit. Marines are 50 each, and complement your marauders, "GOLD". I'll cream your ass, I gave you the chat channel, I'm in it now, play me. If you don't scout a zealot rush, you can do something amazing, it's called heal your wall with SCVs. Ranged units hit through wall, PROFIT! Stalkers cost more than Marauders, so you shouldn't be complaining in the first place. I said I'll play Terran and you can play Toss.

  • @ZeroD3lta Dang U Mad bro D:

  • @Robarch89 I had a feeling you were trolling. Guess this confirms it. =D

  • @ZeroD3lta Trololololloolllo lolollo lolooo ho oh ho oh hooo * trumpets *

  • easy, just go terran :P

  • Marauders are OP.

  • @Feuerfresser90 nope, they are just sucks -.-

  • husky do you play cortex rp? Because that's one of the maps and you seem to know the commands.

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  • Need me some ol school reavers!!

  • marauders win because they are awesome!! *muahahaa*

  • I still like sneaking dark Templars behind the enemy lines while my ally distracts from the main gates. I use warp gates and the portable pylon thingy (I haven't played in a while and I forget the names easily)

  • @Piecopter Warp Prism

  • Only reason i think marauders are unbalanced is because of the shear size of the unit in comparison with it's stats. A stalker vs a marauder, you end up with a marauder with 8 hp. In this video, you end up with around half of the army of marauders still living. What's the catch? Marauders are smaller by almost a factor of 0.5 radius. Meaning more marauders can attack at the same time by almost a factor of 2. Not counting stimpack, lighter costs, etc. I think re-sizing the units could help.

  • Zealots almost 1v2 marauders, this is a very shitty comparsion. In a real game you will have charge, you won't be in a choke and you will fight with much smaller armies.

  • @massdestruction97 Actually, 2v1, the zealot will get one kill and the other marauder doesn't get hit, IF there is a charge, if there is no micro involved and no stimpack WITH the marauder's slow. The ONLY way zealots can even stand a chance vs marauders is if you block them somehow (surround, stasis, pincer attack, etc.)

    Most people won't let themselves get cornered anyway.

  • @massdestruction97 the game doesn't spell out to Protoss players that they need an extra tech (charge/blink) researched from it's own building to counter a unit that can get conc shell from the same tech lab for just 50/50. It's counter-intuitive: the natural thing is to assume that each race's basic units are balanced against each other directly. This kind of video is helpful to people who didn't know that already. Oh and when terran get stim they can kite chargelots too, lol lrn2play noob .

  • @IncredibleGoliath lol the reason why terran get shells for so cheap and what not is because ff is so good this video is really dumb all you need to do in order to stop a early game mauraders is just to use zlots and sentrys just ff behind the units so they cant kite and own them i dont think you understand how good sentrys are

  • @blaekman I don't think conc is unbalanced, I was describing how it affects marauders getting a reputation for being difficult to deal with. FF take micro, and new players generally suck at both micro and reaction time, which you need to react to an attack and place the FF quickly and accurately so they actually help you. Conc shell, on the other hand, is a benefit that doesn't require any extra expertise to use. So noob Terran players roflstomp noob Protoss players at the same skill level.

    

  • @IncredibleGoliath lol so your saying kiteing doesnt take micro? but i can see what your trying to say but ff doesnt take much micro just press f and left click behind the army lol and if their both at a noob lvl then they will never hit a early timing attack perfectly and the games will go on for a while and by then the toss should have like 4-5collo so that makes your argument about conc shell kinda invalid but i play zerg and i offrace as both the races and it isnt very hard lol

  • @blaekman my whole point was that if you have conc, you don't need to kite unupgraded 'lots, because they'll die before they reach you. FF requires that the player be looking at their army, have their army selected, have enough energy, press f, hold down shift and then click in the correct place. And you better have the right mix of zealots and sentries, in the right position. It's not noob-friendly. Conc shell helps a terran player defend even if a marauder is sitting in a bunker autofiring.

  • Good video Husky

    I'm a Terran player and I use marauders a lot, but this video has just given me tips about how a Protoss player could try and defend an early push of them

  • i love seeing hardened shield go off =]

  • zelots are good against marauders..

  • @VoodooD0g Not if you micro the marauders...

  • @Teongose even if you micro marauders and lots, the lots are great against rauders. ofc i didnt talk about a-move.

  • @TimeDividerN hew asshole, shut your butt up

  • hate marauder.. I even saw an marine marauder with observer, got 5 immortals 4 stalkers, failed to kill 10 marauder 10 marine...

  • @tfwarlord well yea you over committed to immortals....

  • Your intro made me feel better.

    DIE! DIE! KILL THEM ALL!

  • "The protoss player has to scout"Problem:how the hell will i scout an Terran that with 1 marines can take down my probe.And i cant get an observers becuase i got to RUSH TO IMMORTALS!!!!

  • " I love my Protoss

    I really do

    But those Marauders

    Turn Toss to GOO "

  • @unkhowman Toss.. Goo..

    See what you did there.

  • @TetrisLock Well , I'm just singing " Banelings " song along this vids

  • @unkhowman Its so true.

  • @phedden97 XD

    

  • @unkhowman i heard zealots are good vs them

  • @Ohushi Concussive Shell + Stim + Some Stimed Marines + Kiting

  • @unkhowman forcefields? zealot sentry hits befor stim if its not an all in. if it is u will have seen the 3 rax allin and like husky said just hold off...

  • @Ohushi OK OK .

  • srsly zealots crush marauder! and even with charge the consc upgrade dosent help much, but the zealots cant surround here what so ever so ofc marauders won,

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  • husky had no clue those days, go mass chargelot and you´ll rape the marauders.

  • @GrouEEf you can read right? there stands "early game" ... and husky is even saying it ...

  • @GrouEEf and how are you going to get charge likr 5 mins into the game? noob

  • wounder what cortex map this is. . .

  • what mode is that that you can spawn things? o.O

  • I know you don't "want to say" that marauders are OP but can you? Cuz they are =P

  • @HuskyStarcraft Would the results be the same if you were using fewer numbers in this demonstration? (Eg. Instead of using 100 marauders vs 100 zealots, use 12 vs 12, or some smaller number.) I think part of the debate happening here is that because the units are not able to surround, the marauders will always win.

    Note: I don't even play SC2, but I played lots of SC and BW, and I enjoy watching your videos. I could probably answer this for myself if I did play but as it is...

  • @Jastro88 Thank god guys, captain obvious has arrived to shed light on the situation. :D

  • SERIOUSLY WHAT MODE OR SOMETHING ARE U DOING

  • @Pasta585 this is a cortex roleplay map

  • What mode are u doing...

  • What about blink stalks and an observer? sounds like it would counter no?

  • good stuff m8!

  • marauders suck vs protoss, 1 force field in the ramp and you pel them from afar, and as soon as you see marauders, you see you can pick inmortals and back up with zealots, so you can go safely into collossus tech

  • *Spoiler Alert*

    Zerg Wins

  • alter JEDES MAL SCHEIS  WERBUNG

  • @25687wtf nur wenn man in deutschland lebt :)

  • carrier rush ftw

  • Q to the Q some of these comments :)

  • put 50 stalkers and 50 zealots vs 100 marauders and the protoss would win i think...

  • get high templar and storm the MMM ball

  • mauraders were the counter to stalkers in the campaign

  • Meanwhile > Sentry FFs the choke..

  • is it just me or does husky sound like hes 12

  • husky sucks

  • @redryan20000 lmao no `?

  • @TheSnakepoison you're not even sure yourself haha

  • zeolot show its not right,, im a terran player and i can say its already unfair puting both unit that. show it in a wild field that all unit in both side can attack evenly.