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  • Kevin Smith saw a different movie. He can't even describe what happened in Superman Returns.

  • Thank God Brain Singer has nothing to do with the Man of Steel now. Superman Returns was the worst comic book movie I have ever watched! Kevin Smith hit the nail on the head when explaining what was wrong. It was just a 2 hour bore-fest of pure bullshit! I hope Zack Snyder can save Superman becuase if the next movie fails, you will never see another movie about hm again.

  • Superman Returns is so underrated. Everyone was comparing it to all the other flashy superhero movies. I was so glad it wasn't like that. To me, it was more genuine.

  • Don't know why people in the comments are so pissy about Smith, it clearly states his name on this video title, no one is forcing you to click.

    Also, are people just saying they liked Superman Returns because the critics liked it? Because I find it hard to believe that people remained interested throughout the whole thing. Although X-Men 3 isn't really better either.

  • Only thing is, even if Superman does punch somebody, it won't be anywhere near as awesome as when he went all out on Darkseid in the last Justice League Unlimited episode. World of cardboard indeed.

  • I think Superman Returns had a good movie in there somewhere. I actually think the so called "EMO Superman" could have been good in small doses. It was full of problems though, the story wasn't big enough for the big screen though. It was fairly obvious that the kid was Superman's from the beginning and despite some good ideas, they didn't add much to the superman mythos.

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  • I liked Superman Returns for the exact reasons why he disliked it!! It was character driven, didn't rely on action, and just very different from your typical superhero movie. It's much better than X-Men 3!!

    Also, what actor does he cast in Zack and Miri!?! Brandon Routh!!

  • @indysoul86 bullshit superman returns sucks ass

  • @indysoul86 Returns wasn't bad, just was boring as hell. Certain heroes are expected to have action scenes in their movies, If I see a Superman movie want to see Supes have a real fight.

    If it was a hero like The Question or some street level character, then a predominantly character driven piece with a strong focus on romance might work. I just don't think it worked that well for Supes.

  • I have to agree with Smith on this film.  I want to see Superman as the larger than life character he is. I do not want to know the subtle details of his love life. I want to see him fly.

  • "He's dead." "Oh, right."

  • Cough cough (bitter)

  • Wear real pants then we'll take your opinions seriously KS is a douche bag!

  • @SuperBrianle why would you say that on a kevin smith video? clearly you're going to start a fight. is that worth anyone's time?

  • superman didnt punch anyone in the original one either. he dont have to act tuff, he's fucking superman. i also think that lois lane wasnt ever well depresented in a movie ever. margot kidder was annoying and ugly and that other chick from superman returns was a bitch.

  • KS is too fat and very self indulgent

  • After he saw this, I wonder if it was awkward for Brandon Routh to work with Kevin Smith on Zack and Miri lol

  • smiths a hack anymore......

  • It wasnt that bad , I would still watch it again but yeah he has a point about it being boring .

    I remember waiting like over a year for that superman movie to come out !

  • Superman Returns felt to me like a "Smallville" season premiere , they were setting things up these thing that were going to be issues for the season, but it's a movie, so it never came

  • hes SUCH a whiney fuckin fanboy, ofcourse they must have done it if the kid has fuckin powers THATS HOW BABIES ARE MADE MORON????????? she doesnt have to say it cause the fucking kid pushing a 2,000 pound piano speaks for itself!!!!!

    typical pathetic fanboy rants SMFH

  • Just because it didn't have the giant spider.

  • 7:50 @@@ LAWL

  • Superman Returns is fucking awesome.

    X-Men The Last Stand was great.

  • @Xyberfaust Returns Sucked!!!

  • He is sweating as hell but won't leave his coat

  • I would totally try out the Super roofie

  • OK, I can understand not liking Superman Returns but liking X 3? Come on...

  • You won't believe how fucking boring this man is. lmao

  • He is sweating as hell but won't leave his coat

  • I would totally try out the Super roofie

  • OK, I can understand not liking Superman Returns but liking X 3? Come on...

  • You won't believe how fucking boring this man is. lmao

  • I love Kevin Smith but dude needs to stop dressing like the epitome of "comic book geek".

  • @traumaturgy my thought on a new superman movie is that it takes place in the time the comics were made, like incorporate the front cover of the first issue in the movie

  • Idk about that man, I started watching Wrath of Kahn and I just fell asleep.. when do the cool parts kick in?

  • she doesn't know Superman and Kent are the same yet she had a kid with Superman. I wonder if she was having doubts who was who when they were fucking.

  • The fact Kevin Smith claims he liked X-Men 3 more than Superman Returns is our first piece of evidence he is again talking nonsense. Singer made a movie which like Ang Lee's Hulk felt grown up, as much as any comic book adaptation can anyhow. "where Superman doesn't trow a single punch"!? Yes, he is Superman, not some street thug! Invincibility and being able to move faster than a speeding bullet means he shouldn't have to resort to bar room brawls. Clerks 3 anybody? Figured as much...

  • @chiggins78 It was boring as shit and x men 3 was good

  • @chiggins78 The fact you cited Ang Lee's Hulk as "grown up" or in any way positive is our first piece of evidence YOU are talking nonsense, my friend.

  • it was really bad.....  the airplane scene was sweet?

  • @traumaturgy nah once... they open that door... people will be like WTF... we'd like it but not the masses

  • Didn't superman and Lois sleep together in part 2 at the fortress of solitude?

  • Respond to this video... Yes they did, but at the end of the movie, superman makes her forget. Therein lies the joke -- why doesn't lois ask Superman, when did you rape me?

  • At 2:10, Kevin really reminds me of Walter from The Big Lebowski

  • I really appreciated Star Trek the Motion Picture.

    :S

  • I actually liked Superman Returns despite what people say, even if it was quite long and the there should've been a proper villain. But still, I loved Kevin's jokes on the movie either way.

  • thumbs up if ur watching this in 2011

  • @eminemboyification

    I'm watching it in 1812. Shut the fuck up.

  • @eminemboyification Everyone who is watching this video is watching it in 2011?

  • @eminemboyification no im watching this in 2012 mother fucker.

  • @eminemboyification Why do you do this.

  • @Davetacular45 what do u mean

  • Kevin Smith is so right

  • Thankfully (hopefully) now, the Zack Snyder Superman reboot will be to Superman Returns as JJ Abrams' Star Trek was to the original. Amazing how so much can change in just a few years.

  • Superman is only as awesome as whoever controls story creation allows him to be. Look at the trashy batman movies. Then look at the dark knight. I rest my case.

  • @windstrider83 dark knight was abysmal and was barely saved by heath ledger's joker

  • @geckodragon how so

  • Kevin Spacey ruined Superman Returns granted that is was boring and sucked because Superman is just a boring and overrated character anyway.

  • @BayHarborButcher04 Kevin Spacey was the best thing!

  • @BayHarborButcher04 Honestly I have never like Kevin Spacey as an actor in general

  • i like Bryan singer's version of superman returns.......i feel like im the only one that really like it.

  • kevin smith is an idiot with basement dweller fanboys

  • To add, I think Kevin Smith was being kind to Bryan Singer b/c he could have gone off even more about how SR totally, irrevocably sucked.

  • I don't understand this "____ is better than ____!" arguments.

    Can't we agree that they're both fucking awful and leave it at that?

  • Superman lifting a kryptonite island into space is boring? Damn, what more do you want out of a superman movie? That's the most epic thing he can possibly do.

  • Superman hopefully will sucker punch!

  • Christopher Reeve should've been Ironside

  • @speebyda super coffin go

  • "why didn't Louis lane march into the hospital room and be like " when did you rape me Superman?"

    LMAO

  • 5:23

    Penguin laugh

    

  • @VinnyWS6 And if that's what you really think then you're an idiot.

  • Not only did Superman Returns have yet another real-estate scam, the movie steals to many elements from the first movie.

  • the new superman movie should be good chris nolan and zack snyder

  • Smith is absolutely 100% right Cristopher reeves was in a wheelchair and is now dead...

  • They sure got the name of the movie right on. Superman Returns. Thats it. Thats all that happend. Movie starts. He came back. Roll credits.

  • @ryano2099

    xDDD

  • One thing I really didn't about Superman Returns is how technology advanced by 30-40 years, in the span of 5 years after the first or second film. Folks went from typewriters to desktops and flat screen televisions. Plus Superman and Louis Lane aged backwards.

  • they should make a new superman but darker like the new batman movies.

  • @NWBE4ST Idiotic. Returns sucked, but Supes doesnt need to to be dark.

  • i get that Singer wanted to honor the Donner version of superman... but he tried to skip around superman 3 and 4 like they didnt exist. i know 3 and 4 were terrible but u cant reboot a franchise w/o including the rest of the storyline from the original (meaning w/ christopher reeve). Superman returns was just a bad waste of time and money and hopefully Zack Snyder and Chris Nolan's Superman adaptation will make up for Singer's mistake. just my opinion.

  • @bambamstiffy88 Oh, CAN'T they? have u noticed how many re-made moves end in the word "Reboot", let alone the fact that they're re-makes of re-makes that came out like wut, 3 years earlier?

  • @sancombru yea thats true... like what they did w/ the hulk. but i think the reboot of the hulk was better. lol.

  • @bambamstiffy88 Saying the reboot of The Hulk was better is like saying that solid turds are better than runny diarrhea. While the statement is true, it doesn't exactly mean much in the scope of things.

  • @SaintN0where i actually thought the last hulk movie wasnt bad. lol

  • Bryan Singer should've just stayed w/ the X-Men franchise. By doing Superman, he ruined both franchises once Ratner got involved.

  • I'd love to see All-Star Superman adapted well to the big screen in live action, though it would have be handled carefully and lovingly by some hugely talented people. If they couldn't do that, and maybe it would be best they don't try, I'd love to see a movie that captures the tone of that book, and the joy.

  • Well this is what happens when you take a franchise such as Superman and give it to someone like Jon Peters. And that film was never intended for the fans, but to capitalize on the toys.

  • Someone needs to put together a collage of all the times Kevin Smith says f*** in these q&a specials.

  • @voicebox64 What do you want "Kevin Smith, the Fucking short version"?

  • @pytko3 Can you do it?

  • I'm sorry, but X-Men 3 was ten times the piece of crap Superman Returns was.

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  • @mirrorimage345 So you bash him with as many fucks as possible then compliment him. Smith is above all else a comic book super fan and this is just his opinion. Take it easy, and the word fuck doesn't make your comment better, just brings it down to a low level

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  • @mirrorimage345

    You sound like a really stupid person trying to sound like a really smart person. You're not good at it.

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  • I think he's wrong about it. The Singer film was good. He also sound like a moron 40 year old who cannot speak with F en this and F'en that. God, that is so boring.

  • Kevin Smith should never be viewed side on.

  • actually, the "Memory Kiss" was used exactly once, back in the Silver Age, when Superman was pulling new powers out of his ass on a weekly basis

    X-Men 3 would've been better, if they had not tried to combine the Cure storyline with the Dark Phoenix Saga (both of which could've been an individual movie) and focused more on characters that weren't named Wolverine

  • While I agree with common opinion that The Dark Knight is probably the best superhero film ever,

    my personal fave of all time is the first Superman film.

    Which made Singer's Superman extra disappointing for me.

  • Im still waiting for them to make Superman fight brainiac

  • I like Kevin Smith and his funny ass movies(except Cop Out) but he's just hating cause that bastard producer Jon Peters gave him the boot in the 90's to direct a Superman movie with a giant robot spider! But even though he's right about how boring it was, but the action scenes were sick especially the airplane one!

  • So.... I shouldn't see Superman R? (please note: 9 times out of 10, I see my movies several years after they're made)

  • at least Bryan Singer doesn't bitch about critics when they criticize his movies.

  • @SamuraiSwoosh Donner's Superman is NOT outdated. Are you gonna to say the same thing about the 1st Star Wars Trilogy as outdated? Batman: The Animated Series outdated? You might as well since you seem to think 21st Century mentality makes you superior if not immortal.

  • He is right about Superman Returns, yet he cast Brandon Routh in Zack and Miri Make a Porno

    

  • @misfitsrule10 i agree with him about superman returns but i must admit routh was great as superman

  • the stuff he said about chris reeve was really fucked up

  • I think the key to a great Superman movie is not to "pretend" to be dark.

    Let the movie get REALLY dark...really sinister...really fuckin dark...till the point of despair and no return..even the jadest of the jaded, the most cynical of the cynical, will cry with loud howls, and THEN....

    *cue music

  • @TheArthen Nooooooope. Just let the Superman movie be a pulpy, spirited Superman story just like in the comics pure and simple.

  • @Diakron79

    Yep, you're right. Full circle. You win. hahaha

  • Batman >>>>>>>> Superman.

  • they need to do another supes movie and do it right. more action for christ sakes. take advantage of the tech we have today and put it to better use jeez

  • fuck, look at his audience.

  • How many punches did Superman throw in Superman I?

  • I liked Superman Returns, but it really was boring as shit

  • That movie was terrible in about a half dozen unique ways. WB was right to remove Singer. I have very high hopes for the reboot!

  • @GenoPeppino As do I. I trust The Brothers Nolan and Zack Snyder to do a damn good job. The Nolans are great with story and Snyder is great with visuals. You need both with Superman.

  • @redsoxfan3418 Exactly!

  • yeah not enough action or fighting its just a god damn soap, a paternity movie.. fuck

  • Kevin smith is so fat that he wears pants that can be confused with a skirt at first glace

  • I'm conflicted about Superman Returns. I love the character, and I missed seeing him in movies. I have to agree with Kev though, SR was somewhat boring. They should've done more with the kid with super powers. That would've been a hell of a movie if the kid was flying around and causing trouble and Superman had to do damage control.

  • HOLY SHIT ITS A GIANT BABY GET IN THE FUCKING CAR MARION!

  • I agree with Kevin, Im surprised Returns was greenlot, didnt anyone read the script to authorise it other than Singer? Superman stalks lois and the whole movie is him greaving that he lost Lois to another guy and she has his child. Downbeat, sad and negative. Thats what happens when you give someone like Singer too much trust. And the quality of the CGI was terrible. The suit? dont get me started! too plastic and action-figure looking. Routh was good though.

  • @Mikez4 The suit was even action-figure. To my mind it was novelty bubble-bath

  • Smith has a short memory, they fucked in Superman 2

  • @Colt2571 But, as he pointed out, Superman gave her a kiss at the end of the movie and she forgot everything. So, from her perspective, they never had sex.

  • He's sweating, and still he keeps his overcoat on.

  • they fucked in superman 2, sorry

  • @Devilhunter318 Well yeah, he knows that. But Superman wiped her memory of that

  • @level22productions i know, but he said that he didnt remember a scene in which superman raped lois, i might just be out of context though

  • Fact: Superman is the lamest character ever created.

  • @AlexKKKeller Face: You've never read a Superman story arc in your life.

  • "when did you rape me?"lmao

  • I wonder if Kevin told Brandon Routh this when they made Zach and Miri together lol.

  • Lex Luthor is such a boring villain. I mean - he's just a regular guy with a lot of money. Crap! Bring on Doomsday.

  • @boydegg There's more to Lex Luthor than just money, he's a Xenophobic egotist who genuinely believes killing Superman will keep the world safe. Meanwhile Doomsday is just a dumb muscle-bound monster that was only created to do the stupid death of Superman story.

  • @Curttehmurt

    Your Doomsday bit reminded me of how I perceive Bane. People keep saying that we need to see Bane in a Batman film again, but really, Bane doesn't have the 'range.'

  • @uruseiranma Not quite, Bane is a very intelligent and capable villain who just happens to be addicted to steroids

  • @uruseiranma bane was the one who crippled batman and left him in a wheelchair, the guy is like a hunter, and a very intelligent one fot that matter, you are probably used to see bane as this idiot with muscles, thats not an accurate discription at all. ;)

  • @Curttehmurt Did you read the entire arc?

  • @TampaRed I hate to admit that I haven't, but I still support Bane regardless

  • @JLC31383- I agree with you COMPLETELY!!! I hated Superman Returns and Bryan Singer really FUCKED UP BAD. I can't wait to see Superman punch someone in this next film...I just wanna see him punch someone...punch SOMETHING.

  • @laddie86 I just pictured myself being in the theatre for Superman Returns and seeing some guy jump up and completely lose his shit just yelling "PUNCH SOMETHING!!!"

  • "Superman Returns" could have been an acceptable film if Superman had actually been fighting a villain and Lois Lane did not have a kid. Bryan Singer ruined it doing the story he did and that is why we are still waiting for another movie with the Man of Steel. I just hope the reboot gives me the Superman movie I have always wanted to see. It needs to be an origin story skipping the destruction of Krypton and the Kents finding baby Kal-El. Lex Luthor and Brainiac should be the villains.

  • He's dead on about Wrath of Kahn.

  • What the "FUCK" is he wearing?

  • I wouldn't call Superman Returns boring. I would call it FAR too long 2.5 hours. X-Men 2 was 2.5 hours long and it too is FAR too long.

  • @EpiquestGame x men 2 however actually worked as a movie, there were moments of actual drama and the enemies plan wasn't really really stupid.

  • Smith is absolutely 100% right about Superman Returns, one boring ass Superman movie where nothing happens. Superman might as well of saved a kitten from a tree in that movie. We need an action packed Superman movie where he stops an alien invasion or some shit...

  • @trentkill In recent superhero films, the character of the hero's secrect identity is just as important as the guy in the costume (if not more so) look at Iron Man, Batman Begins and Spider-man, those films were more about Tony Stark, Bruce Wayne and Peter Parker than the costumes they wore. Superman returns was a throwback to the silver age of comics where Clark Kent was a mere disguise.

  • @woodgatejack I understand exactly where Superman Returns and Bryan Singer are coming from... I get what world he was trying to create and for that attempt, I salute him because Singer does have skill....but of all the Superheros Superman is the one character I'd rather not be sitting next to in GROUP THERAPY.. I'd much rather see him actually using all his superpowers to defeat a foe worthy of his time.

  • @trentkill And if we're lucky, throws a fucking punch

  • @trentkill While that's true, Smith's Superman script was terrible, too.

  • @trentkill yes and also half the script dialogue was stripped off of the old superman movie

    a lazy crap movie

  • @trentkill That's true i don't remember anything about the movie. They say the new Superman is going to be more like Dark Knight which is good. All of the comic movies are going dark, Spiderman, Batman and now Superman.

  • @PeacefulVibes it can be as dark or as light as they want as long as they don't fuck it up again

  • @trentkill FUCKING THANK YOU MAN!!!!!! that is exactly what i want to see. lets see him take on fucking Metallo or bring Zod back or something like that. or lets see fucking Lex Luthor put on that suit of his and have a smackdown in Metropolis. 

  • @trentkill fuck yea

  • @trentkill

    Be careful what you wish for. If all you care about is action, then in theory you would have no problem with Michael Bay directing Superman and giving him the "Transformers" treatment. I agree that Superman Returns needed more action, but I do NOT want to see a movie that's all action and no character development...but I'm worried that the message we're sending to Warner Brothers is that that's what we want.

  • Don't lose anymore hair, Smith, b/c Cop Out fucking sucks. PS X-Men 3 sucked balls, so did Wolverine.

  • @Joecbg100 what does his hairline have to do with the quality of his films?

  • Returns rocked.

  • fucking awesome!

  • i could watch this guy tell stories for the rest of my life... what a genius

  • @PoliteElliot- I disagree. At least XMen3 kept me AWAKE. I fell asleep nearly 1/4th of the way into Bryan Singer's snorefest of a Superman failed film.

  • One thing....in "Superman IV," Lois told Superman that she remembered everything about her and Superman, if not that Clark is Superman. Yeah, IV wasn't the greatest, but they did set that up. And based on other scenes in the film, it is obvious that she remembers being with him, otherwise she wouldn't be as upset with him as she was.

    I didn't think Superman was "emo" either. He was upset about things, but it doesn't stop him from doing his calling like it did in in "Spider-wuss 2."

  • Goku vs Superman. Goku wins.

  • @warrior72989 - I love them both, but to rationalize it, and break it down. They would beat each other to death, but Goku would be wished back somehow. So, yep, guess he wins. :P

  • Love you man, but no matter how 'boring' Superman was it was far better than X-Men 3.

    Superman may not have relit its franchise, but X-Men 3 defiled its franchise.

    (And take the coat off ;)

  • Love you man, but no matter how 'boring' Superman was it was far better than X-Men 3.

    Superman may not have relit its franchise, but X-Men 3 defiled its franchise

  • ..and yes, Lois should not have remembered having gotten super-dicked down. I hate a lack of continuity, especially among film makers.

  • He made one mistake: in Superman 2 there was a scene of Lois and a depowered Clark in bed at the fortress of solitude. I believe that's where she got pregnant. But since they Assumedly had sex after he gave up his powers, why would his kid have powers? Superman Returns was indeed an abomination. A wasted opportunity.