Anti Dalai Lama Demo Nürnberg Germany 18.05.08

[goldmanndan]

Auf einmal sieht es so aus als ob der Vertreter der einzig friedlichen Religion ein Verbrecher ist. Und den wahren Verbrechern kriechen wir in Berlin hinten rein, nur weil sie uns ihr dreckiges Geld geben.

[malunamaba]

Es gibt ein sehr lesenswertes kritisches Buch von Colin Goldner über Dalai Lama: Fall eines Gottkönigs

[TheDharmaKnight]

Except for the ban on Dorje Shugden, not a single Tibetan god or demon has been discriminated against or abolished, and no other practitioner of any other Tibetan god or demon has been persecuted. Dalai Lama doesn't even speak out against any other religion, cult, occult. Why Dorje Shugden?!

[zamzam24388]

Why did HH Gaden Trisur wait until his term ended as Gaden Tripa to join Shar Gaden? And why did his whole household follow him? Do you think they are following blindly? Two big households at Shar Gaden cannot be wrong.

[Varavaken]

They are religious fundamentalists. Their intent is to undermine the Dala Lama. They have close connections with China.

Watch the documentary (newkadampa´s channel). Go to "Tibetan Buddhism goes West" for more information. Or just ignore it all...

[TheDharmaKnight]

varavaken

You speak passionately about and associate DS practitioners to the Chinese' government with the motivation to get money and belittling Dalai Lama. I do think there are DS practitioners who are doing this...but NOT ALL.

Seeing your many posts on youtube regarding this point does makes me think you must have a strong basis for saying this.

However, I hope you can consider the point I am putting forth also, that not ALL DS practitioners have the motivation you are accusing us of....

[oldmapstibet]

Dorgee Schugden group are very dangerous and fundamentalist people. They are prepared to do everything ...

We Tibetans do not need it .. they are most westen people.

[jasonzhang6248]

Dalai Lama is a layer!

[01622812943]

all these german nuns n monks acting like buddhist ......but infact they r jobless or homeless so they just create their own groups n make stupid money......well dun believe on them ....tats jus wot i wanted to say.

[Rob187ok]

Jesus Christ is 100% correct in everything so why not filow Him instead.

[jewishwarrior666]

Rob187ok

"Jesus Christ/ why not follow him"

I'm so with you on this one. Look at how much trouble these people cause around the world following the dalai lama when jesus is king. However I've never heard anyone say anything about introducing christianity to the tibetans. It's so much more simple not having to memorize the names of 100's of idols. You're definitely thinking on this one although you might receive death threats from the tibetan exile fanatics.

[ABCDIR]

'Loud is the noise that ordinary men make. Nobody thinks himself a fool, when divisions arise in the Sangha, nor do they ever value another person higher than themselves.' - The Buddha, Mahavagga

[TengriAsura]

You know what? I don't like Dalai Lama representing all sects of Buddhism.... including Theravada and Mahayana in Sino-centric cultures.

[TengriAsura]

this is all based on Western media.

[IchGibDirHeadshot]

dalai lama is ne Missgeburt Hurensohn mutterficker

[hunter990426]

怎么不见轮子的发言了？

[snowlandboytulku]

可恶的达赖喇嘛呀，你让佛弟子内斗流血，于心何忍啊．．

你是可恶的政治家，过去三百多年前以萨加派和格鲁派的护法大王大 力金刚"多杰雄天"来嘲弄玩政治,更不忍自 己的上师尊者赤将仁波切,,传乘上师尊者帕蚌卡等,,你的修道根 本皈依师已腐烂了,你没有资格讲菩提道次第 等法..

[snowlandboytulku]

Dalai Lama Please Stop Your Lying... Why You Maker Dorje Shuden"S Trouble

We Are All So Is Tibetan Why ?...

Please Stop stop Stop Stop Lying....

[lionheart3724]

amboy your posts are way out of date boy. Catch up with the news.

Your claim about the DL being the "highest Buddhist master" is meaningless in spiritual terms.

In political terms you are right - he is see like the Pope of Buddhism. But such worldly reputation is oh so fragile.

Regarding "gangsters" how about Tashi Angdu President of the Tibetan Regional Council?

[lionheart3724]

The dl is a disaster...he is doing a very good job of destroying harmony in buddhism worldwide. Also he is doing a very good job of eliminating his own lineage of teachings so that it will be mixed in with everything else in tibetan buddhism...this is his main plan.

What a disaster he is. Everywhere he goes there is disharmony and strife. What a failed opportunity after receiving the beautiful Ganden lineage from his spiritual guide, Trijang Rinpoche.

[amboy4]

Let me say this again: Dharma teachings to the ears of a wolf. And dogs don't eat when they are not happy but it doesn't bother the owner very much becoz its just a dog.If you don't like DL you must be unhappy but helpless becoz DL is the highest Buddhist master in today's world. A simple man from a small country is so popular and powerful! you guys jealous HUHHHH.

go and see what shugdhan gangsters did to the Tibetan communities. go to youtube at(newkadampa)the spirit and the controvers.

[amboy4]

21perusal believe yourself as a Buddhist practitioner, its you choice. but don't talk about qualifications, what about kal gyatso? he has just a qualification of high school compare to modern study, he is not a geshe, go ask him. your allegations about dalai lama is against Buddhist principle if you consider yourself as a Buddhist practitioner even if you don't like him. so I would say you must be a fake Buddhist monkey. I would say this to you because I'm not Buddhist.

[upkarma]

DL has stated that he started this and he will finish it. Quite sad!

[lionheart3724]

the dalai lama is not even a qualified student never mind a teacher. Why not?

Because he is trashing the lineage his kind teacher, Trijang Rinpoche, gave to him and he said "those who practice Shugden cannot be my friend"....in other words his own teacher cannot be his friend.

Therefore he has broken the first step on the Mahayana path which is to always rely sincerely upon the holy spiritual guide.

Now he wants to remove Trijang's throne from the monasteries. The Dalai Lama is a disaster.

[upkarma]

Sie haben den Nachweis? Let's see it! DL breitet sich Frieden auf der Welt, aber nicht in der Lage erscheint, um Frieden in seinem eigenen Hinterhof zu Hause. Darf er sollte die Brände in seinem eigenen Home Erste? Die Weitergabe von negativen Propaganda ist es, was die Chinesen taten. Tibeter sollten davon absehen. Nur Ursachen für Leid und Spaltungen unter einer einmal vereinten Gruppe von Menschen.

[tenacioustaut]

Go to India,

if you really want to know the reality.

the ORIGINAL document is in india.

and SHow the document in front of the Shudge protesters

[tenacioustaut]

The 14th Dalai Lama noticed the danger of Shugden as the Buddha noticed the danger of traditional practicies and founded Buddhism

[amboy4]

people be careful with ghosts and its followers.

dholgyal is also called shugdhan, a ghost.

[21perusal]

Dorje Shugden was recognised by 5th Dalai Lama as Wisdom Buddha. Also by this 14th Dalai Lama he was recognised as Wisdom Buddha.

What you are saying is superstitious nonsense.

The present Dalai Lama changed his mind for political reasons - he has no valid reasons to stop practising the prayer of Dorje Shugden. sadly for him since he stopped his own wisdom has decreased as we can see from so much pain and suffering he is causing many thousands of people woprldwide.

[tenacioustaut]

Those who attempt to murrrder are not practicing religion well.

Check out what the Indian police said about Shugdens.

They attempted

[21perusal]

Can you tell me what material evidence they have? Do the police say they have clear evidence? If not then it is just an allegation. thousands are made all the time.

Sadly, due to the Dalai Lama many other Tibetans had reason to murder those monks so please stop unfounded smears on a few people. As I said before if you have no evidence then please stop repeating lies.

[amboy4]

before I give you the evidence you have to learn the meaning of Buddha. please do not use the name of Buddha for a ghost,which I believe, but you can say its your deity or whatever, I think the dalai lama is doing well and will always, but think what about you guys if someday CCP change their mind not to support you guys.

[21perusal]

Get a life please. CCP has no connection. You have no evidence.

Buddha means "awakened one" - so please wake up! Buddha also means mind of indivisible bliss and emptiness - so he/she can manifest in whatever forms are suitable to help living beings.

I do not need a lecture from you about Buddha.

I have been going for refuge to Buddha all my life - and Dorje Shugden is the Wisdom Buddha, Protector of Je Tsongkhapa's pure tradition.

Now, where is your evidence?!! Post it here.

[tenacioustaut]

Furtheremore, it says,

If Dorje Shugden appears as a sword-wielding warrior riding a snow lion through a sea of boiling blood, his believers seem equally ferocious. Their death threats against the Dalai Lama illustrate this.

[21perusal]

Do you have any evidence of Shugden people making death threats to the Dalai Lama? If so show it to the Indian police. If you have no evidence then please stop spreading lies.

If you look at the 1st Swiss video you will see clear evidence of death threats against Dorje Shugden pracitioners.

[tibetanheart]

Protestants DO NOT HAVE TO live in Vatican City, where only Catholics live.

I wonder why Dorje Shugden practitioners want to live in Daramsara, where the Dalai Lama lives.

[tibetanheart]

Perhaps those Shugden practitioners should form their own community in India and live there; they do not have to live in DaramSara.

They DO NOT have to live with the Dalai Lama.

The Dalai Lama is NOT responsible for all Tibetans; he is not the head of all Tibetan Buddhists. The Dalai Lama is responsible for only his followers.

[lobsang7763]

Fuking Fuking Fukinggggggggggggggggggggggggg­gggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg­gggggggg Shugden the ghost.

[davidyogitube]

sonam, you can slander as much as you like, I don't need to use insults to help my reasoning. I don't need it because the facts are there for everybody to see. If you don't see them, is just because you act like a Dalai Lama blind fanatic. DL is destroying the four main tibetan schools, creating at the same time a mixture of them that he calls rime (without lineage). This is harming the spritual lives of millions in the world. This is why there are so many people protesting to the DL.

[sonam21]

How stupid you are, whole world know about His Holiness the Dalai lama and his work for promotion of human value and promotion of religions harmony more than two decades, follower of His Holiness dalai lama within four school of our tibetan Buddhist r very good relation and harmony each other, Shugden's party destroying our good harmony relation between four Tibetan buddhist school.

[davidyogitube]

sonam your allegations are completely false. I think you are following into the extreme of fanatism here. You look like a Dalai Lama fanatic, that thinks that he can never be wrong. Everybody that contradicts your political leader is then pointed as bad. I think you would have been very happy in the theocratic Tibet, in which the God King was the ruler. At that time also, nobody could contradict him. You are supressing your own freedom and intelligence and helping DL to do the same with others.

[sonam21]

1) I knew these protesters follower of Kalsang Gyaltso who is great liar and real hypocrite, he called him self as a Geshe but reality he hasn't graduated and gain title Geshe. He looks humble but every monks from Sera know about him as a hypocrite, lair and robber as well. Now a days he and his followers relation with CCP government.

[davidyogitube]

sonam21, I think you need to question yourself a bit more about your leader, the present Dalai Lama. Is he really helping others to find inner peace and harmony? It's evident that this people protesting don't think the same as you. Dalai Lama is essentially a political leader pretending to be a spiritual one. His main aims are political, so his motivation is very impure and worldly. This is why he is harming the spiritual life of so many buddhists througout the world...

[sonam21]

2)Monks from Sera abandon relation with him many years ago because of big liar and robber of Buddhist centre from FPMT Lama yeshi's centre in England. since he stop to put image of H.H.Dalai lama and not allowed to read H.H. Dalai lama books,lot of students stop to go his centre, actually so called his centre he robbed from FPMT Lama yeshi's centre.

[killevilness]

i guess dalai mama supporters and china haters will say the CCP paid those people blah blah again, coz those anti-china idiots just don't dare to face the fact that actually there are also many tibetans and westeners dislike dalai mama...

[ForJamuqa]

Any serious and creditable book about the history of Tibetan Buddhism can tell you that religious persecution and genocide of other sects of Tibetan Buddhism led by the sect Dalai Lama represented has never stopped. Today, it's Dorje Shugden.

Tibet has had many Lamas from many sects of Tibetan Buddhism. The DL has been the most powerful came at the price of blood and loss of human lives of other sects of Tibetan Buddhism. The DL is fundamentally a brutal political and religious dictator.

[justintenzinjinpa]

This is why so many people have a problem with the Shugden practice, it is viciously sectarian. However, His Holiness has opposed this practice in this incarnation and others. His Holiness is far from a dictator. He asks others to stop the practice but he does not force them to do so.

[jpvdsbe]

he is just a dog of CIA, holy?hahh,joking,but still have so many jerk who know nothing about this shit

[floatinghippos]

You need to do your homework a bit better. The Dalai Lama indeed practiced Dorje Shugden as his main practice, because it was given to him by his spiritual guides. Proof of this was the verses of praise to Dorje Shugden which he himself composed called "Melody of the Unceasing Vajra". Also, you are correct in saying initially the 5th Dalai Lama did not support Dorje Sugden practice, but later he became one of the biggest Dorje Shugden supporters and encouraged others to do the same.

[justintenzinjinpa]

Actually, you need to do YOUR homework. His Holiness turned down the life entrustment when Trijang told Him to take it. As far as lineage holders go, HHDL has said that the lineage has passed to him from Trakda Rinpoche, not Trijang Rinpoche. And to my knowledge you have lineage holders for specific practices, not for whole schools. For instance, HE Gelek Rinpoche (who does not practice Dholgyal) is the Gelug lineage holder of Vajrayogini.

Your view of the Fifth Dalai Lama is simply erroneous.

[21perusal]

Homework, homework, oh so tedious...

Trijang Rinpoche would NEVER "tell" his student the DL to take anything. He was a true Spiritual Guide and would not force anything upon people. The DL humiliated his own teacher and then destroyed the lineage of Je Tsongkhapa's tradition with his minestrone soup of rime - it is the DL who is TELLING people what they can and cannot practice. He is the very opposite of a spiritual guide. He is not even a qualified Mahayana disciple. Such a bad example...

[amboy4]

believe yourself as a Buddhist practitioner, its you choice. don't talk about qualifications, what about kalsang gyatso? he has just a qualification of high school compare to modern study, he is not a geshe, go ask him. your allegations about dalai lama is against Buddhist principle if you consider yourself as a Buddhist practitioner even if you don't like him. so I would say you must be a fake Buddhist monkey. I would say this to you because I'm not Buddhist and I'm not religious person.

[lionheart3724]

How odd that you are so well informed about religious matters yet you yourself are not religious.  I wonder what is your interest in this debate?

[Crapidiot]

haha sucker

[floatinghippos]

I hope due to this video, people investigate the expulsion of 900 monks by the DALAI LAMA from his own monastaries. WHY? Merely because they practice Dorje Shugden, a practice which the Daila Lama himself practiced until he was 50, and which was given to him by his spiritual guides and practiced by the great Gelugpa masters. The Dalai Lama has no spiritual justification for this BAN on Dorje Shugden practice. His aims are entirely POLITICAL.

[justintenzinjinpa]

This comment is very ignorant of the actual situation.

His Holiness never actually practiced the full practice of Dholgyal. His Holiness never had the life entrustment of this spirit, which is the main practice.

Also, there is strong spiritual precedent for ceasing this practice, which isn't a ban. His Holiness has never banned this, just asked his followers to stop. The Great Fifth Dalai Lama was against the practice as was the 13th Dalai Lama. The vast majority of other lamas are against it.

[floatinghippos]

He constructed the Trode Khangsar temple to Dorje Shugden which can still be seen today in Lhasa, and he also made a statue to Dorje Shugden with his own hands which can be seen in that same temple right now. Lastly, the vast majority of Lamas are not against this practice, in fact the last two lineage holders of the Gelugpa tradition, Trijang Rinpoche and Je Pabonkapa, were sincere Dorje Shugden Practitioners.

[justintenzinjinpa]

Building a temple and statue does not mean that it is one's main practice or that one has the full life entrustment of a protector.

The majority of lamas are against this practice. Dholgyal is not practiced outside of Gelug to begin with, and nowadays you have many, many great Gelug lamas opposed to the practice of Dholgyal. HH the Gaden Tri Rinpoche being the most obvious example, with many others.

[21perusal]

They have been forced to abandon their practice through the terror campaign unleashed by the Dalai Lama. Politics is everything in Tibet nowadays...the true Dharma is disappearing fast.

[amboy4]

I know its silly to give you more explanations and evidences. there is a saying: Dharma teachings to the ears of a wolf, doesn't make any sense.

anyway go and see some tragedies done by shugdhan people. go to youtube at(newkadampa)the spirit and the controversy. you will be happy to know what kind of a gangsters you belong to.

[lionheart3724]

Just repeating lies..that is all you are doing. You and others like you have not one piece of evidence for what you say. Just repeating the Dalai Lama's lies will not work.

Doprje Shugden is regarded by faithful followers as an enlightened being. These people are Buddhists so they have no wish to harm anybody.

But they are now speaking out strongly against the Dalai Lama's years of deceit and lies. The truth is gradually coming out.

[tenzinzigme]

All these Fake CCP Commies.... They dont have any jobs, nor any spiritual qualification... in order to make themselves RELEVANCE and Get salaries from CCP they have to do something even if that happens to Betrays their own country in favor of Communist China, or to say ILL of someone who is Bodhisattva himself. They say ILL about HH The Dalai Lama as if they know him, but I Dont think these people have ever MET H H The Dalai Lama in their entire life leave alone knowing him. PATHETIC PEOPLE.

[YAPONLUQ]

This kind of "internal trouble" will just favor and encourage China's suppression on Tibet.

China will use the society's demonstration for it's propaganda.

[friz963]

Bull shits

[tsotube2]

EVEN THOUGH THESE PEOPLE ARE RAISE BY CHINESE..BUT LISTEN PRO-CHINESE OUT THERE.. JUST ASK THEM..DO THEY WANT FREEDOM OR NOT..THEY WILL SAY YES COS THEY CARRY THE SAME FLAG..watever it may be you cant stop our freedom struggle ..thats it..

[KKSSR]

Nam Mo A Di Da Phat!

Ihc bin voll und ganz der Meinung von nakata und thich dong hoa (wir kennen uns :)

[SuChuThichDongHoa]

diese "mönche und nonnen" sind falsch in jedem detail. sie haben nur 5 regeln haben sex und sind u.a verheiratet.

sie glauben an sugden einen gott dem sie alkohol und tiere opfern. sie garantieren jedem der diesen gott anbetet das nirwana erreicht.

ausserdem werden sie von den chinesischen kommunisten bezahlt.

[derkarlos123]

und der Dalai Lama wird vom CIA bezahlt. Das ist Fakt!!!

[SuChuThichDongHoa]

this are faked monks, having only 5 rules and are ordinated by themselves. they follow sugden, a god and not buddha. they say that following this way brings people direkt to nirwana. AND THEY OFFER ANIMALS AND ALCOHOL FOR THIS GOD. also they have sex. all this means they arent buddhists in anyway.

and they are payed by chinese communist regime.

[shantidewa]

than the dalai lama was also a fake monk? my friend this issu is to complicated for you and dont be to emotionnel, learn our tibetan buddhist befor writing comments.

[adamaglaia]

What they want is religious freedom, and that has nothing to do with whether they are 'real' buddhists or not.

If they can practice their belief simply because it is not approved by Dalai Lama, then Dalai is a real dictator.

[justintenzinjinpa]

People can practice whatever they want to.

These people are just uncomfortable with the fact that HHDL, many Gelug lamas and lamas from every other school call it a harmful practice.

It's not a matter of freedom of practice, it's a matter of the NKT and other Dholgyal practitioners wanting other lamas to stop being so mean to Dholgyal. The situation is, in my opinion and from what I've seen, blown out of proportion by the NKT and WSS.

[justintenzinjinpa]

SCTDH is actually semi right regarding the NKT. Kelsang Gyatso has destroyed the vinaya, going from the full set of vows of a gelong or gelongma to 10 vows, half of which are the same vows that I hold as genyen with celibacy added, the other half are "pure conduct" vows, if I remember the term correctly. They're quite vague and difficult to apply. According to the Vinaya they are not even real monks or nuns. Also, Dholgyal is considered a gyalpo by many, an unfit source of refuge.

[wisdombuddha]

Dalai Lama give RELIGIOUS FREEDOM!

Dalai Lama STOP LYING!

[dellfor]

for all limited ppl get lost

who made this video is the best person that i have know, Chrissi u're the best ;)

[rptopmbv]

Go to hell! his holly shit dalai cock sucker!

[rptopmbv]

.┏━━━━━━━┓ IT'S FOR U Dalai cock sucker

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[rptopmbv]

Germany is the motherland of Adolf Hitler(even though he was born in Austria), Germans are 100% purebreed Nazi monkeys living in the Nazi/Hitler's land, they only need to do one thing - go to hell to kiss Adolf Hitler's fat ass.

Hope those German monkeys will stop day dreaming of being the permanent member of UNSC. The people in the rest of the world should not give them any opportunities. Germans only need to go to hell - those Hitler's son of biatch.

Germans' war crime will never be erased.

[24nakata24]

I've been myself there, and I think that's just ridiculous and just sassy!

How dare they? "dalailama, stop lying?!"

U, China are lying don't blame our Holyness...

Disguised as monks and blame the tibetans...go home and let those in peace!

[shantidewa]

i know you wont believe but they are reall monks i know some of them. they have noting to do wiht the chinese