Whow, this is the first time I hear John Cage. I have to get used to the idea this is music and ban out the picture of someone going TOTALLY berserk when writing this piece.
I get what's intended with this, but all Cage does is remind us why this type of music remains "experimental". I don't see why someone would waste their time on something like this. It's like the Guiness World Records. "Someone did it, but why?"
in peter greenaway's documentary about john cage there's a sequence when a lead singer finishes his part of singing by belching. i love cage and all of the millions of nerves that people lost because being too conservative too understand his philosophy.
I can't imagine singing a piece like this. You'd have to be so careful to make all of the strange sounds in a healthy manner... and they don't really prepare you for a lot of these noises in music school..... >.> lol
I figured out what this is. It's a frankenstein. You take bits and pieces if stuff and stitch it together. But the result is garbage.
We have to remember that music is not any single note, but a collection of notes and dynamics that combine to make something much greater. But when you do what john cage does and slap bits and pieces of styles, sounds, and languages it's not music. It's musical diarrhea. It's a waste of talent for the people in the YTSO.
@QAnimosity you almost seem to be discrediting your own response to it - i'm not talking about your dismissal, but try this; listen again. Follow your responses to it, try not to make value judgements - but monitor your breath, where do you tense up? Or do you relax? MusicaRicercata is right. Dance. Your response was important to cage. There are moments when I feel a quality of abjection. I appreciate that there are artists who expect some corporeality, some mess, some pain from their listeners.
I appreciate music in all forms and on all mediums but this is shit. I understand and acknowledge what they are trying to do, giving such a vast element of freedom to so many in one piece could produce an almost infinate number of outcomes, unfortunately this one is terrible. Taking "im artsy so i love this" attitude out of the equation it is literally just a rabble of noise, it is awful. All of this, of course, being my sole opinion. You don't have to agree or like what i say =)
You're right, this is more filosophy, not music, because I think that all have a parameter to be good, this is a stupid thing made from people that only ruins the music.. I don't understand, with that orchestra, and that singer.. doing that?? It's a shame
@odkfn unfortunately, you haven't offered much valid criticism with which to disagree. You seem so quick to dismiss it, that I suspect it interfered with your experience of it. I am astounded by the number of dismissive comments on this video (and others) who's posters dubiously claim expansive and inclusive listening habits. Are you really listening? What did this experience do for your curiosity? Listen more critically, less judgmentally. Relax.
Clear!, but equal this is the perfect vocal skill that many singers have to sing this the summary like that difficult, because if I speak only on the voice and the skill, to combine the entire vocal record of a voice is very difficult, not in any musical work, only in this type of works or the musical ones of broadway.
Afresh I am grateful that cuelgen this type of videoes in youtobe, I as the student of singing of it it is a part of my study.
bueno entonces que haces viendo este video?.. mejor anda a escuchar backstreet boys o britney spears, ellos es mantienen en un mismo circulo armonico.. nunca cambia. y es algo que tu cerebro puede entender.. se nota que la musica moderna-contemporana de las nuevas corrientes de creacion no es lo tuyo.. entonces no hay que hablar de lo que uno no sabe y saber decir cuando algo es musica y cuando no.. saludos (espero que no te lo tomes personal) jaja
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I don't imagine myself listening a cd of this, or another shit from cage or stockhaussen or all those suckers. for he's fault, now the people listen rap or hip hop or those stupid things.. It's a shame that you're sticked on that definition and say "this is music" when we all know that you must be are crazy to say this is nice.. for the love of God, is a women screaming like a monkey... music??? maybe yes by definition, but no by the ear
She is certainly an amazing performer...so versatile and professional. My only quibble would be her Italian pronunciation...It sounds false and affected...Otherwise an excellent performance!
Oh WOW.. what a voice Measha has:) amazing... to understand it you got to bring all differents school of thoughts from back in the day on the late 50s... as a satira to the classical era:P hehe lol i kind of like it...
I don't actually understand this piece. But one thing is for sure... the vocalist is definately impressive. I could tell from the first time I saw this and I searched for her on youtube and found her other videos. She's a pretty good singer!
si lla los as leido copia y pega esto en 5 videos mas o tu madre morirá en 3 dias, hacedlo por fabor mi a mi amigo le paso, yo lo e hecho pa que no me pase, por fabor acedme caso. esto es una maldicioooooon
Measha and the ensemble perform an amazing rendition of a very difficult piece. Bravo! I've followed her fantastic career over the years...she's marvelous!
Measha Brueggergosman really makes this work beautiful, and John Cage is quite hard to understand really as I studied his ancient voices for children before. Though I hardly understand what this piece is about, I'm attracted to it.
i really like this music, dont get me wrong the sequence of sounds in itself is not genius, but the conseptual exploration of sound and music and coincidental harmony is refreshing.... just my opinion.
I think every piece deserves to be played at least once... though not every piece deserves recognition for being groundbreaking. Just being different doesn't make a piece good. This piece does not deserve to stand alongside the other pieces that are played in this concert.
John Cage is such bullshit. "I am going to make a peice where everyone just plays whatever the hell they want! I'll tell them when to play, approximately how long they should play, but everything else is up to them! After generations, they shall praise my name as the composer of this wonderful tune. I'm an experimental activist, stretching the boundaries on what can be considered music."
In fact, even if it is considered music, it's not even HIS music. He can't take credit for a free-for-all!
agreed! this is so fucking stupid. i hate "new" music.... the composers think of themselve as "better musicians" who are able interpret shit in those stupid tunes... its NOISE .... nothing else
I like this. But I also understand all those who don't get it. Modern art (in all its forms) is difficult to get. That's what makes it art. Otherwise, it would always be a trivial remix of existing pieces.
For those who don't understand anything about this piece, you first need to understand that Cage was a...bit odd. His works were verry wacky, from randomness, orchestrated chaos (this piece), loud sounds, silance, chance. If you don't get it, It's okay, you're not supposed to get it. If you hate it, that's fine.
This is no "sit back & relax" song that's for sure. What allowed me to listen to it all the way was to treat it like a musical puzzle-of-sort. Still not sure what's going on, but it eases the listening lol.
But props to the singer for doing all sorts of dynamics and sounds. It seem hard to keep in tempo and doing all those crazy noises...
i love the youtube orchesta but this... who in thier right mind would come up with a chaos of music?! That woman is not making it any better. i loled the whole time.
It's not wrong that you did find humor in this — I did too. That might be one intent of Cage when writing Aria, but more importantly, it describes chaos (like you said). That is why this music is beautiful. Not everything has to be strict, 16th century harmony.
im a musician and i generally prefer adventurous and different pieces but you have to recognize that there is a difference between adventurous and just stabbing around in the dark without the intent of hitting anything
I love the moment 03:49 when she stares into the page with that facial expression and busting of sounds :))))))
John (Cage) is wonderful, always.
Music is usually understood as tonal, beautiful, catchy, bombastic thing.
But Cage, Shoenberg, Debussy, Satie, Verase, Reich...etc. all challenge that.
And that's WHY we're here; the 21st century.
anataria 2 months ago
Whow, this is the first time I hear John Cage. I have to get used to the idea this is music and ban out the picture of someone going TOTALLY berserk when writing this piece.
Qaatloz 5 months ago
the YTSO playing one of those trollings of John Cage
eskorbutin89 8 months ago
THIS IS MUSIC. IN EVERY SENSE OF THE WORD.
jamesaellis 10 months ago
WTF
chuck7790 1 year ago
wow! this very interesting!
tjonesmusicman 1 year ago
wow this was just a lil too out there for me
juliecbow 1 year ago
I get what's intended with this, but all Cage does is remind us why this type of music remains "experimental". I don't see why someone would waste their time on something like this. It's like the Guiness World Records. "Someone did it, but why?"
tommyk77 1 year ago
This song are written in 5 different languages, I saw this why I have the score .
It's very difficult
adyr0312 1 year ago
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This music was written in 5 diferent languages, I saw this why I have the score .
It's very difficult
adyr0312 1 year ago
This music was written in 5 diferent languages, I saw this why I have the score .
adyr0312 1 year ago
in peter greenaway's documentary about john cage there's a sequence when a lead singer finishes his part of singing by belching. i love cage and all of the millions of nerves that people lost because being too conservative too understand his philosophy.
skutratufahija 1 year ago
Ladies and gentlemen...
I present to you...
Tourette Syndrome the Musical
pullman87 1 year ago
@pullman87 Your mean!
brenmattnahat 1 year ago
it would be perfect for 'warsaw autumn'
CigaretteSmokingMann 1 year ago
7:18
Darth Vader?!
GregBackwards 1 year ago 4
The is such a talented individual, a beautiful one too!
Bravo, an amazing performance, from an amazing vocalist!
shapeofcallinghome 1 year ago
Measha:Magnífica, grandísima artista
mejor Voz contemporénea, polifacética
Absolutamente genial
ROS
JValentin88 1 year ago
20th century art indeed! Just imagine with this century has in store for us!
culveyhouse 1 year ago
Awesomeness!!! Commitment!!
TollerAffe 1 year ago
meow...adore Ms. Measha.
msteras 1 year ago
This isn't music, its a man who has run out of ideas.
FoggyRoad81 1 year ago
John cage ftwtf
fuzzywizard0110 1 year ago
20th century composers are soooo FUNNY! LOL
SAI03 1 year ago 4
On the whole, I'd rather have Mozart.
chrisman737 1 year ago 3
I can't imagine singing a piece like this. You'd have to be so careful to make all of the strange sounds in a healthy manner... and they don't really prepare you for a lot of these noises in music school..... >.> lol
franimalistic 1 year ago
The moment at 8:11 gives me goosebumps.
gpeddino 2 years ago
Cage is like the Schoenberg of this millenia.
1piratesluver 2 years ago
@1piratesluver ....John Cage was dead before 2000, and was not only alive while Schoenberg was, but was a pupil of his.
jwizz51 1 year ago
@jwizz51 True. But I don't change my statement, because as proven here, he is still wildly popular even 20 years after his death.
And usually when ppl refer to ''century's" or "millenia," they include a few years leading up to or after it.
1piratesluver 1 year ago
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CigaretteSmokingMann 2 years ago
Musical ignorants? Like yourself?
MusicaRicercata 2 years ago
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CigaretteSmokingMann 2 years ago
just to reiterate, this IS shit.
odkfn 2 years ago
I figured out what this is. It's a frankenstein. You take bits and pieces if stuff and stitch it together. But the result is garbage.
We have to remember that music is not any single note, but a collection of notes and dynamics that combine to make something much greater. But when you do what john cage does and slap bits and pieces of styles, sounds, and languages it's not music. It's musical diarrhea. It's a waste of talent for the people in the YTSO.
QAnimosity 2 years ago
You were absolutely right until "But the result is garbage."
Dance, monkey; DANCE!
MusicaRicercata 2 years ago
@QAnimosity you almost seem to be discrediting your own response to it - i'm not talking about your dismissal, but try this; listen again. Follow your responses to it, try not to make value judgements - but monitor your breath, where do you tense up? Or do you relax? MusicaRicercata is right. Dance. Your response was important to cage. There are moments when I feel a quality of abjection. I appreciate that there are artists who expect some corporeality, some mess, some pain from their listeners.
ilublovovitch 2 years ago
@QAnimosity hahahahahha i've never seen so manys bullshit in one comment. MUSIC is a SOUND, not only a MELODY.
CigaretteSmokingMann 2 years ago
I appreciate music in all forms and on all mediums but this is shit. I understand and acknowledge what they are trying to do, giving such a vast element of freedom to so many in one piece could produce an almost infinate number of outcomes, unfortunately this one is terrible. Taking "im artsy so i love this" attitude out of the equation it is literally just a rabble of noise, it is awful. All of this, of course, being my sole opinion. You don't have to agree or like what i say =)
odkfn 2 years ago 3
You're right, this is more filosophy, not music, because I think that all have a parameter to be good, this is a stupid thing made from people that only ruins the music.. I don't understand, with that orchestra, and that singer.. doing that?? It's a shame
gabrielfernandez92 2 years ago
@odkfn unfortunately, you haven't offered much valid criticism with which to disagree. You seem so quick to dismiss it, that I suspect it interfered with your experience of it. I am astounded by the number of dismissive comments on this video (and others) who's posters dubiously claim expansive and inclusive listening habits. Are you really listening? What did this experience do for your curiosity? Listen more critically, less judgmentally. Relax.
ilublovovitch 2 years ago
Unbelievable Avesome!
I sounds almost like me! :-)
StephanTV1221 2 years ago
BELURVED
mkpearl3 2 years ago
Beautiful! A collage of sounds of the modern times, many languages, animals, opera, cities!
gpeddino 2 years ago
it's incredible to see how human become ..!
almegalli 2 years ago
I love this piece!@!
Cantabilex33 2 years ago
is that michael tilson thomas?
jmk170393 2 years ago
HAHA! good one! That FAGGOT!
ZPSFILMS 2 years ago
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mrsethmusicman 2 years ago
sooo cool. like a collage.
singana1 2 years ago
why didn't I apply for youtube orchestra.. will there be performed contemporary music next year?
jamesvla 2 years ago
such an interesting piece....but damn hard to listen to! Love Measha...I just find John Cage hard to take.
Lizzyjean5 2 years ago
She is a wonderful singer!.
This aria is difficult, I do not believe that any singer dares to sing it.
I like me, thanks for hanging it!.
Rapicienta 2 years ago 16
Actually, there have been many singers who have done the work and done it very well... heard of Cathy Berberian?
Beside, it is important to remember that the work is at all improvisatory — it is at the whim of the vocalist.
MusicaRicercata 2 years ago
Clear!, but equal this is the perfect vocal skill that many singers have to sing this the summary like that difficult, because if I speak only on the voice and the skill, to combine the entire vocal record of a voice is very difficult, not in any musical work, only in this type of works or the musical ones of broadway.
Afresh I am grateful that cuelgen this type of videoes in youtobe, I as the student of singing of it it is a part of my study.
Rapicienta 2 years ago
Aboslutely incredible.
She is perfect. The attitude and vocal effects are spot on.
siyui 2 years ago
Of course it's music, out there but it's certainly music! One just needs to be a little creative in their thinking while listening to this.
LLJtbone 2 years ago 3
if i was in the ytso and my parent's came to this, i would be embarrassed to have them hear it.
oswaldiscute 2 years ago
Thats why you are not in the ytso. To be an artist means willingly taking the chance of being embarassed.
BlueCougar 2 years ago
this isn't music.
oswaldiscute 2 years ago
not all the music has to be melodic, and... what is music?? music is the combination of silence and sound. This is the actual definition
edquin 2 years ago
hey!!! yo te lo enseñé !!!!!!!!
chucholuchocucho 2 years ago
Music is a sound succession with certain sense. The combination of silence and soundnot is not music, is simply noise!
angelromanramirez 2 years ago
bueno entonces que haces viendo este video?.. mejor anda a escuchar backstreet boys o britney spears, ellos es mantienen en un mismo circulo armonico.. nunca cambia. y es algo que tu cerebro puede entender.. se nota que la musica moderna-contemporana de las nuevas corrientes de creacion no es lo tuyo.. entonces no hay que hablar de lo que uno no sabe y saber decir cuando algo es musica y cuando no.. saludos (espero que no te lo tomes personal) jaja
edquin 2 years ago
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I don't imagine myself listening a cd of this, or another shit from cage or stockhaussen or all those suckers. for he's fault, now the people listen rap or hip hop or those stupid things.. It's a shame that you're sticked on that definition and say "this is music" when we all know that you must be are crazy to say this is nice.. for the love of God, is a women screaming like a monkey... music??? maybe yes by definition, but no by the ear
gabrielfernandez92 2 years ago
John Cage's genius is above us all. Brilliant guest performer, too.
ajamesu 2 years ago 2
What the hell?
MrJayWood 2 years ago
She is certainly an amazing performer...so versatile and professional. My only quibble would be her Italian pronunciation...It sounds false and affected...Otherwise an excellent performance!
Bigman240 2 years ago 2
Oh WOW.. what a voice Measha has:) amazing... to understand it you got to bring all differents school of thoughts from back in the day on the late 50s... as a satira to the classical era:P hehe lol i kind of like it...
ymanganelli 2 years ago 3
I don't actually understand this piece. But one thing is for sure... the vocalist is definately impressive. I could tell from the first time I saw this and I searched for her on youtube and found her other videos. She's a pretty good singer!
flstudiofreak 2 years ago
I don't suppose beat-boxing is a vocal talent (is it?). It would be interesting if beat-boxing was incorporated into this piece.
flstudiofreak 2 years ago
si lla los as leido copia y pega esto en 5 videos mas o tu madre morirá en 3 dias, hacedlo por fabor mi a mi amigo le paso, yo lo e hecho pa que no me pase, por fabor acedme caso. esto es una maldicioooooon
saxtenor34 2 years ago
Didn't know John Cage liked Darth Vader 7:15
lonelypike15 2 years ago 2
can you imagine rehearsals?!
=)
alexandertom05 2 years ago 19
wow she has really good technique! this is not easy to sing!
gbritaney 2 years ago 3
and scary..reminds me of my elementary school chrous teacher
fdapproved16 2 years ago
why do the OFFICIAL videos from Youtube have so little views?
this is great music btw
Medsas 2 years ago
Amazing performance!
i never watch any of Cage's orchestral works, but this one is very very vivace!!
ndreaz1401 2 years ago
I tried but was unable to enjoy this piece, just not my thing i guess, maybe i don't understand it.
tommyboi1461 2 years ago 2
Fantastic! Normally I don't like Cage, but this is great.
JeeRant 2 years ago
Different! Very interesting.
annamaria73 2 years ago
funny
ROFL
anntidy 2 years ago
Measha and the ensemble perform an amazing rendition of a very difficult piece. Bravo! I've followed her fantastic career over the years...she's marvelous!
volly69 2 years ago
this must be extremely hard to sing, haha
ytfarmer90 2 years ago
this IS music not noise! XD we play similar things in band. XD lolz. it's fun.
XdEiXSeMpAiXL0vErX 2 years ago
wth is this.....this has to be the weirdest "music" ive ever heard.... if this even is music.........
metalhead1945 2 years ago
Measha Brueggergosman really makes this work beautiful, and John Cage is quite hard to understand really as I studied his ancient voices for children before. Though I hardly understand what this piece is about, I'm attracted to it.
violachk 2 years ago 2
violachk: Ancient Voices of Children is by George Crumb. Crumb is one of my favorite composers!
ninaflute 2 years ago
Sorry I mixed them up, I kinda poor at distinguishing those names...just now I even thought Terry Riley as John Cage._.
violachk 2 years ago
i really like this music, dont get me wrong the sequence of sounds in itself is not genius, but the conseptual exploration of sound and music and coincidental harmony is refreshing.... just my opinion.
sobeit42 2 years ago
I think every piece deserves to be played at least once... though not every piece deserves recognition for being groundbreaking. Just being different doesn't make a piece good. This piece does not deserve to stand alongside the other pieces that are played in this concert.
david3494 2 years ago
weird but coool
whoa112hii 2 years ago
It sort of sounds like a witch setting fire to a rainforest and all the animals freaking out. lol
jsz60 2 years ago 3
lol :D
yaelypower 2 years ago 2
This music makes you listen to it continously it has some mystery and beauty you can't identify at first glance....
Well for me it is...
parukia24 2 years ago
John Cage is such bullshit. "I am going to make a peice where everyone just plays whatever the hell they want! I'll tell them when to play, approximately how long they should play, but everything else is up to them! After generations, they shall praise my name as the composer of this wonderful tune. I'm an experimental activist, stretching the boundaries on what can be considered music."
In fact, even if it is considered music, it's not even HIS music. He can't take credit for a free-for-all!
ReignOfPraine 2 years ago 3
agreed! this is so fucking stupid. i hate "new" music.... the composers think of themselve as "better musicians" who are able interpret shit in those stupid tunes... its NOISE .... nothing else
YODAvid 2 years ago
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ReignOfPraine 2 years ago
We studied this piece in music. It's a very interesting piece... really keeps you awake.
Vemela 2 years ago
I like this. But I also understand all those who don't get it. Modern art (in all its forms) is difficult to get. That's what makes it art. Otherwise, it would always be a trivial remix of existing pieces.
cullasakka 2 years ago
LOL definitely an entertainment piece, not for daily listening . . . the singer is very impressive. she totally made the performance enjoyable.
jstrudel7 2 years ago
This is musical dadaism if there ever was one. Look for meaning in the randomness and draw your own conclusion.
I for one am amazing at how Brueggergosman is able to switch styles at will.
nibelungensohn 2 years ago
For those who don't understand anything about this piece, you first need to understand that Cage was a...bit odd. His works were verry wacky, from randomness, orchestrated chaos (this piece), loud sounds, silance, chance. If you don't get it, It's okay, you're not supposed to get it. If you hate it, that's fine.
Joshlama 2 years ago 5
This is no "sit back & relax" song that's for sure. What allowed me to listen to it all the way was to treat it like a musical puzzle-of-sort. Still not sure what's going on, but it eases the listening lol.
But props to the singer for doing all sorts of dynamics and sounds. It seem hard to keep in tempo and doing all those crazy noises...
asianrocklobster 2 years ago 2
I've seen a lot of awesome things from this orchestra but this was absolutely lame.
Geerafferman 2 years ago
What I don't like is that when you ask a classical play to improvise, sometimes its just random notes.
jazzmangiant 2 years ago
i dug it.
semtex2you 2 years ago
umm... that was..... awesome! i would so like to do that in my band class. just make the weirdest noises ever!
yojuls 2 years ago
i love the classic music
and all does things but THIS
ham... is a mess!! i don't even understand it
emmu12 2 years ago 2
I'm pretty eclectic in musical taste but this doesn't make it on my list -- I just don't get it. Why do you even need to conduct this? What?
JustinDBernardino 2 years ago
i love the youtube orchesta but this... who in thier right mind would come up with a chaos of music?! That woman is not making it any better. i loled the whole time.
daniel73091 2 years ago 2
It's not wrong that you did find humor in this — I did too. That might be one intent of Cage when writing Aria, but more importantly, it describes chaos (like you said). That is why this music is beautiful. Not everything has to be strict, 16th century harmony.
DannyDaWriter 2 years ago 2
...well i liked it:D
geoflasher 2 years ago
man i don't get this
im a musician and i generally prefer adventurous and different pieces but you have to recognize that there is a difference between adventurous and just stabbing around in the dark without the intent of hitting anything
tdubasdfg 2 years ago 3
are they at least told what key they're playing in?
czimon 2 years ago
I'm sorry, but, this is just cacophony.
FenAllo1 2 years ago
wth? well... that was wierd
the girl was amazing though=)
WinryandEd4ever 2 years ago
look...i love the youtube orchestra AND i love classical music BUT this is freaking messed up!!!! i don't get it!!!
its chaos!!!
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