@j10jep2 The Hunting rifle shot? Yeah, thats likely what it was. However, look at a charger while he is charging, his head isn't visible from the back. This was on the X360 so the aim assist could have gave them a magical shot. It was Coach that got the kill, not Ellis in front of me so I know it was a rear headshot.
Besides this video is ancient, why do people still bother with it? Oh thats right, cause his hit detection is still unreliable -_-
@Garbonzo07 Yeah, it's still an issue on both versions. Popular belief now is that thier engine can't handle player's bodies as projectiles. Considering the hunter, jockey, and charger all use their own body as the projectile and they all have issues, i'm inclined to agree.
They are upgrading their engine soon (Portal 2 is being developed on the new engine I heard?), so maybe if L4D3 ever gets here, these things won't be such an issue.
@Kindatae LOL Dude. No. It doesn't matter how far away you are. I can't remember what it's called, but there's a video on here of a charger standing up on a platform, inches away from a sniping nick, where he eventually point blank charges him off. Plus I've charged from up close a LOT.
@Aelokk no, my brother and my dad play this game on the PC and i play on the Xbox 360, an update/patch happens either the same day, or a day later, or a week later AT MOST. but when we watch each other play as the charger, we all get the same glitches of FLYING through ppl as often as i do, so we dont think they fixed anything
i agree with this video, its been countless times wear i LITERALLY clipped right through ppl, and for coach stopping the charger, that happens about half the times i use the charger, valve should just play as the JOCKEY and charger and see the glitches it so FREQUENTLY happens when you play as them.
Yeah, i noticed stuff like this happening to me before. I play on the 360, so i dont know if its any different. But the rifle doing almost instant kill damage and stuff is always happening to me. It seems everytime im the charger, i get taken out in 1 hit by a baseball bat or a shotgun or something. its complete bull shit, and it hasnt changed since i got the game (last christmas). >:( Stupid valve and their stupid chargers...
So five days before this video was made (Actual charges shown here were probably BEFORE the ninth) an update fixed this up. You'd hafta wait a while for the XBox to these updates in a 'bundle'.
the thing that stopped your charge wasn't coach it was the spit ball valve currently has it so even projectiles like spitter vomit pipe bombs and grenade launcher shots stop chargers mid flight
@totalshadow0 Yeah I learned that after posting the video, but still, thats a flaw. I just played a game where 2 of my friend's death charges went through 1-2 people and missed. Then I get a charger, run through THREE people, and out the window empty handed. Just kinda grind against them until you slide past, with no grab. Hes got SEVERAL issues, and I doubt any will be fixed.
your rate, cmdrate, updaterate but most importantly your interp. The charger hit registration is indeed broken, but fixing your rates should help against the issue when you think you've hit but instead you've just passed through them.
The hitboxes are fixed for lag compensation no matter what, they always be 2 feet ahead, unlike in l4d1 where it was 2 inches ahead of the character, this includes survivors. Thats why Chargers "pass"through survivors, they pass through the model and not their hit box, only when they're standing still while a charger get a good charge off.
You can charge through a survivor while they're in a doorway, hallway, alley, etc. and miss. Places where there is literally no room to fit a Charger AND a Survivor, but you still run through them or curve around them. I usually slide around them instead of charge through them, it's noticeable because they effect my direction. I've ran into a survivor and curved around them so badly it ran me into a wall when I was aimed to take them off a ledge, like a 30 degree angle shift from curving on them
Ive notice that Jumping nulls almost everything From Tank Swings to Hunters Missing their Pounce and even Causing Spitters (The spit bounces of survivors if hit with it, if it doesnt hit the ground)
Lol yea another glitch with the charger is (only hacks happened once to me In vs but my friend got smoked but his character was acting as if being charged, even after we said him we could revive him but his bouncing body followed us until he died lol
True, but theres been plenty of times the charger (and other SI) fail to grab a survivor while they're idle. In those situations, lag wouldn't matter if they aren't moving.
I know its new, and I do expect bugs. I played L4D1, so trust me, I DO expect bugs. As for the charger's "week" side, he moves as a large hitbox, it has nothing to do with the realisticness of his graps. Any survivors that come in contact with any of his hitboxes is an immediate grab, regardless of where the contact was made. For example, if a survivor lands on the charger's head as hes charging, it will still grab them simply because they touched him during a charger.
hit detection for all infected suck, valve only wanted money so they didnt bother making the game fair for versus
wayneakrid 1 month ago
that my friend is some funky hacking jobs
Left4DeaderHM 10 months ago
i think the hunter face went from >:D to D:>
imjusttryin 1 year ago
its called a headshot you moron
j10jep2 1 year ago
@j10jep2 The Hunting rifle shot? Yeah, thats likely what it was. However, look at a charger while he is charging, his head isn't visible from the back. This was on the X360 so the aim assist could have gave them a magical shot. It was Coach that got the kill, not Ellis in front of me so I know it was a rear headshot.
Besides this video is ancient, why do people still bother with it? Oh thats right, cause his hit detection is still unreliable -_-
Aelokk 1 year ago
Are you sure the other players weren't just using hax? D:>
2Foxxy4U 1 year ago
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I know your pain all too well
HushedDeath 1 year ago
I know your pain all to well
HushedDeath 1 year ago
maybe because you hit him with your smaller arm at 00:35?
mattbru2 1 year ago
@mattbru2 As far as I know, the entire body of the Charger is a 'grab zone', even the wee lil gimpy arm that flaps in the wind :D
Aelokk 1 year ago
@Aelokk It didnt always seem like that to me. I have had similar misses with thetiny arm
But hey, you can stop a charger with a spit ball? TROLL ON! XD
mattbru2 11 months ago
Ninja black people.
NineTailedIdiot09 1 year ago
@NineTailedIdiot09 wearin' Earth Mamma's natural night camo.
Aelokk 1 year ago 5
0:40 charger autostop sucks too, you couldve still grabbed Rochelle
oeneboy 1 year ago
this is NOT fixed on PC
THIS I SAY AGIAN IS NOT FIXED ON COMPUTER
Garbonzo07 1 year ago
@Garbonzo07 Yeah, it's still an issue on both versions. Popular belief now is that thier engine can't handle player's bodies as projectiles. Considering the hunter, jockey, and charger all use their own body as the projectile and they all have issues, i'm inclined to agree.
They are upgrading their engine soon (Portal 2 is being developed on the new engine I heard?), so maybe if L4D3 ever gets here, these things won't be such an issue.
Aelokk 1 year ago
heheh 1:03 Coach is indestructible
Alexones1 1 year ago
lol soooo funny :D
blackflytr 1 year ago
dude your doing it wrong your not suposed to be anywhere neaqr them foor the hitbox to react
Kindatae 1 year ago
@Kindatae ... No...
Megasandwich 1 year ago
@Megasandwich yes
Kindatae 1 year ago
@Kindatae LOL Dude. No. It doesn't matter how far away you are. I can't remember what it's called, but there's a video on here of a charger standing up on a platform, inches away from a sniping nick, where he eventually point blank charges him off. Plus I've charged from up close a LOT.
Megasandwich 1 year ago
@Aelokk no, my brother and my dad play this game on the PC and i play on the Xbox 360, an update/patch happens either the same day, or a day later, or a week later AT MOST. but when we watch each other play as the charger, we all get the same glitches of FLYING through ppl as often as i do, so we dont think they fixed anything
XXXskittlesrulesXXX 1 year ago
i agree with this video, its been countless times wear i LITERALLY clipped right through ppl, and for coach stopping the charger, that happens about half the times i use the charger, valve should just play as the JOCKEY and charger and see the glitches it so FREQUENTLY happens when you play as them.
XXXskittlesrulesXXX 1 year ago
Yeah, i noticed stuff like this happening to me before. I play on the 360, so i dont know if its any different. But the rifle doing almost instant kill damage and stuff is always happening to me. It seems everytime im the charger, i get taken out in 1 hit by a baseball bat or a shotgun or something. its complete bull shit, and it hasnt changed since i got the game (last christmas). >:( Stupid valve and their stupid chargers...
cootchymama2 1 year ago
yes its sucks
THEMROMFG 1 year ago
No the hit dection on the PC is still bad.
Logangee4 1 year ago
Official L4D Website:
December 9, 2009 - Updated Charger hitboxes.
So five days before this video was made (Actual charges shown here were probably BEFORE the ninth) an update fixed this up. You'd hafta wait a while for the XBox to these updates in a 'bundle'.
kitiecannon 1 year ago
the thing that stopped your charge wasn't coach it was the spit ball valve currently has it so even projectiles like spitter vomit pipe bombs and grenade launcher shots stop chargers mid flight
totalshadow0 1 year ago
@totalshadow0 Yeah I learned that after posting the video, but still, thats a flaw. I just played a game where 2 of my friend's death charges went through 1-2 people and missed. Then I get a charger, run through THREE people, and out the window empty handed. Just kinda grind against them until you slide past, with no grab. Hes got SEVERAL issues, and I doubt any will be fixed.
Aelokk 1 year ago
Valve already fixed this, I never such problem.
Draxis32 1 year ago
Fix your rates
Lortagreb 2 years ago
Rates?
Aelokk 2 years ago
your rate, cmdrate, updaterate but most importantly your interp. The charger hit registration is indeed broken, but fixing your rates should help against the issue when you think you've hit but instead you've just passed through them.
Lortagreb 2 years ago
The hitboxes are fixed for lag compensation no matter what, they always be 2 feet ahead, unlike in l4d1 where it was 2 inches ahead of the character, this includes survivors. Thats why Chargers "pass"through survivors, they pass through the model and not their hit box, only when they're standing still while a charger get a good charge off.
ValenAlvern 2 years ago
You can charge through a survivor while they're in a doorway, hallway, alley, etc. and miss. Places where there is literally no room to fit a Charger AND a Survivor, but you still run through them or curve around them. I usually slide around them instead of charge through them, it's noticeable because they effect my direction. I've ran into a survivor and curved around them so badly it ran me into a wall when I was aimed to take them off a ledge, like a 30 degree angle shift from curving on them
Aelokk 2 years ago
Ive notice that Jumping nulls almost everything From Tank Swings to Hunters Missing their Pounce and even Causing Spitters (The spit bounces of survivors if hit with it, if it doesnt hit the ground)
ValenAlvern 2 years ago
Lol yea another glitch with the charger is (only hacks happened once to me In vs but my friend got smoked but his character was acting as if being charged, even after we said him we could revive him but his bouncing body followed us until he died lol
ledutha 2 years ago
Also include lag time lol (and I'm not saying you're wrong)
ledutha 2 years ago
True, but theres been plenty of times the charger (and other SI) fail to grab a survivor while they're idle. In those situations, lag wouldn't matter if they aren't moving.
Aelokk 2 years ago
1. It's new, going to have some bugs
2. The one on dark carnival with coach, if you think about it the left side of the charger is week.
ledutha 2 years ago
Look at the one where he get's Nick at Dead Center.
DPXJube 2 years ago
I know its new, and I do expect bugs. I played L4D1, so trust me, I DO expect bugs. As for the charger's "week" side, he moves as a large hitbox, it has nothing to do with the realisticness of his graps. Any survivors that come in contact with any of his hitboxes is an immediate grab, regardless of where the contact was made. For example, if a survivor lands on the charger's head as hes charging, it will still grab them simply because they touched him during a charger.
Aelokk 2 years ago
Its bad to complane Valve for this l4d2 hitbox thing but i think they would to better stuffs in this year of technology
Plexuz1 2 years ago
cool story bro
roflol2pmdx 2 years ago
That was silly
BluntMetroid 2 years ago