@fishblade2 also I notice you talked about how the inside reamer for this process is set at factory specifications. My question is do you have to buy one neck reamer for each rifle round you need to neck turn internally?
Thanks for the quick reply.... I started getting split cases just after 4 reloads. I'm annealing after 3 from now on on my .204. Very nice videos, thanks for sharing.
Could you teach us how to reload 5.45x39 from A-Z? All these ranges (both in and outdoor) don't allow bi-metal jackets and thus depriving us 5.45 fans of shooting that cheap surplus or bear ammo.
is that a specific shellholder I have to buy to put in my drill?
also, how much do you remove? you kept adding .002 there. bit confused =/ don't you want to stop adding more depth when you make contact and start removing material?
@razorseal I am using a Lee shellholder. On the amount you want to peel off..it depends on your chamber cut and the case. I cut mine where I needed it for my M700 but for my M1 Garand it's different.
@ammosmith you think Lapua might need this? I don't have the equipment right now. (I'm buying all my reloading stuff at once to start reloading) adn instead of using commercial brass to reload, I figure I get lapua....
ball mikes. and callipers are all good. (i have one at work) and they are only usefull for one thing. I just cant believe it matters that much. if you really want to be accurate with a regular pair of calipers you can trig it out using the width of the flat and the cord of radius it touches. But I mean REALLY, DO YOU NEED TO BE THAT ANAL!!!!
instead of a drill I use a Black and decker smart driver. it is light, cordless, and has lots of torque. it doesn't spin so fast so not so much heat builds up if any. I drive my lyman case trimmer with it also. I can trim about 250 .223 on a charge.
You should try measuring neck thickness with a Tubing micrometer, the flats on the tip of the Dial indicator don't allow you to get a good measurement.
Nice video. When you measured the case neck you said it was "one-thousand'. I think what you meant to say was "ten-thousands" as you can see in the needle of the dial caliper. Keep it up!
Also, in my opinion, you should cut your necks right to the shoulder/neck junction. Maybe even a hair farther. The reason for this is after you fire your turned case, the brass will flow to the chamber and that ring you left at the shoulder will move to the inside of the case, forming a doughnut inside the neck. This doughnut will need to be reamed. Or, you can avoid it by turning the full neck of the case. But, as you stated. Do not cut too far into the shoulder or u will weaken the case.
In my opinion, for taking your case neck thickness measurement, you should take it with a ball vernier micrometer. Not enough sensitivity in a pair of calipers. A good set of micrometers will measure in 10 thousandths.
Hey you get 30 shots out of your cassings thats impressive I have a couple of questions if you dont mind What caliber do you shoot? and what is your grain load and what powder do you use? the reason i ask is, i shoot a .300 Win Mag I can maybe get 5 to 6 shots before the cassing starts to crack so i was wondering if you had any advice or anything i can do to get longer life out of my 300 bullets and thnx for you time
If you don't turn down to the shoulder, so called brass donut will form in some cases (yeah) inside the neck of the case. If you turn a little bit of from the shoulder, this prevents the problem. Your turning tool should have the same angle as the shoulder so you don't take too much from the shoulder.
I am new to reloading so I could be wrong, however from cartridge to cartridge does the shoulder angle not change? Assuming that it does, the angle of the turning tool may or may not be the same angle.
Good video. Your press looks about as old as mine,35 yrs.
floridafyme 2 weeks ago
how do you make a 7.5x53.5 from a 284 winchester ???? love to see a video how to do it .
byrnemonty 1 month ago
@byrnemonty I don't have a K31 yet. When I get one I'll make a video on it
ammosmith 1 month ago
@ammosmith i ALSO have no specialised tools !
byrnemonty 1 month ago
what about neck sizing neck turning on the inside. I know that this still thickens and you have to turn it as well. How do you do that?
fishblade2 6 months ago
@fishblade2 also I notice you talked about how the inside reamer for this process is set at factory specifications. My question is do you have to buy one neck reamer for each rifle round you need to neck turn internally?
fishblade2 6 months ago
Thanks for the quick reply.... I started getting split cases just after 4 reloads. I'm annealing after 3 from now on on my .204. Very nice videos, thanks for sharing.
Yellowshark667 8 months ago
@Yellowshark667 Anytime. The 204 is more prone to splitting and so is the 17 Remington. Check out my annealing video.
ammosmith 8 months ago
30 reloads sounds like a lot, do you anneal your cases???
Yellowshark667 8 months ago
@Yellowshark667 Yes...every 7 loadings
ammosmith 8 months ago
@ammosmith Hey Ammosmith,
Could you teach us how to reload 5.45x39 from A-Z? All these ranges (both in and outdoor) don't allow bi-metal jackets and thus depriving us 5.45 fans of shooting that cheap surplus or bear ammo.
Thanks
ScopedOUT2 1 month ago
@ScopedOUT2 Dies are expensive and I don't have a rifle chambered for it yet....yet.
ammosmith 1 month ago
is that a specific shellholder I have to buy to put in my drill?
also, how much do you remove? you kept adding .002 there. bit confused =/ don't you want to stop adding more depth when you make contact and start removing material?
razorseal 9 months ago
@razorseal I am using a Lee shellholder. On the amount you want to peel off..it depends on your chamber cut and the case. I cut mine where I needed it for my M700 but for my M1 Garand it's different.
ammosmith 9 months ago
@ammosmith you think Lapua might need this? I don't have the equipment right now. (I'm buying all my reloading stuff at once to start reloading) adn instead of using commercial brass to reload, I figure I get lapua....
razorseal 9 months ago
@razorseal No..they are very exacting in tolerances. I use mine to true up military brass or when I convert 30-06 to 308.
ammosmith 9 months ago
sorry to bother you again, but what would be a good fireforming blank charge for these brass. i've never done that. your videos are great by the way
wvcoyotetrapper 9 months ago
when forming .308 from .30-06 should i go ahead and fire form all of them first, or start load development ?
wvcoyotetrapper 9 months ago
@wvcoyotetrapper I'd fireform them with a non precision bullet or a fireforming blank charge.
ammosmith 9 months ago
how do I make 9x25 cases from 10mm ones? Do I need to buy the Dillon stuff or can I do it with a RCBS 9mm die?
762full 10 months ago
@762full You should be able to use any 9x25mm FL sizing die to make them. I suggest using Imperial Sizing Wax as it doesn't form oil dents.
ammosmith 10 months ago
@ammosmith Do Dillon Dies work in Lee presses (loadmaster) ?
762full 10 months ago
@762full I believe they are standard thread.
ammosmith 10 months ago
ball mikes. and callipers are all good. (i have one at work) and they are only usefull for one thing. I just cant believe it matters that much. if you really want to be accurate with a regular pair of calipers you can trig it out using the width of the flat and the cord of radius it touches. But I mean REALLY, DO YOU NEED TO BE THAT ANAL!!!!
Roy39thArkInf 11 months ago
instead of a drill I use a Black and decker smart driver. it is light, cordless, and has lots of torque. it doesn't spin so fast so not so much heat builds up if any. I drive my lyman case trimmer with it also. I can trim about 250 .223 on a charge.
Roy39thArkInf 11 months ago
You should try measuring neck thickness with a Tubing micrometer, the flats on the tip of the Dial indicator don't allow you to get a good measurement.
pbike257 1 year ago
@pbike257 I know. I'm working on getting the proper insturments.
ammosmith 1 year ago
Nice video. When you measured the case neck you said it was "one-thousand'. I think what you meant to say was "ten-thousands" as you can see in the needle of the dial caliper. Keep it up!
brisiobrien 1 year ago
@brisiobrien You're right..I make all kinds of goofs.
ammosmith 1 year ago
Also, in my opinion, you should cut your necks right to the shoulder/neck junction. Maybe even a hair farther. The reason for this is after you fire your turned case, the brass will flow to the chamber and that ring you left at the shoulder will move to the inside of the case, forming a doughnut inside the neck. This doughnut will need to be reamed. Or, you can avoid it by turning the full neck of the case. But, as you stated. Do not cut too far into the shoulder or u will weaken the case.
RedDelPaPa 1 year ago
In my opinion, for taking your case neck thickness measurement, you should take it with a ball vernier micrometer. Not enough sensitivity in a pair of calipers. A good set of micrometers will measure in 10 thousandths.
RedDelPaPa 1 year ago
Hey you get 30 shots out of your cassings thats impressive I have a couple of questions if you dont mind What caliber do you shoot? and what is your grain load and what powder do you use? the reason i ask is, i shoot a .300 Win Mag I can maybe get 5 to 6 shots before the cassing starts to crack so i was wondering if you had any advice or anything i can do to get longer life out of my 300 bullets and thnx for you time
EricCartman0001 2 years ago
If you don't turn down to the shoulder, so called brass donut will form in some cases (yeah) inside the neck of the case. If you turn a little bit of from the shoulder, this prevents the problem. Your turning tool should have the same angle as the shoulder so you don't take too much from the shoulder.
liibalab 2 years ago
I am new to reloading so I could be wrong, however from cartridge to cartridge does the shoulder angle not change? Assuming that it does, the angle of the turning tool may or may not be the same angle.
sklickster 2 years ago
It does. That's why I trim to a certain point and not cut into the shoulder.
ammosmith 2 years ago
Very good series of videos on neck turning. Answered many of my questions. Thank you.
dmproske 3 years ago
You should turn further down into the shoulder so as not to cause a (doughnut) commonly formed by misturned necks.
dantiff2 3 years ago
I never had that problem, thanks for the tip.
ammosmith 3 years ago
Thanks, Ammosmith: just what the doctor ordered. --Mykal
Mykal007 3 years ago