Truth of the Times 3 - The Naked Zeitgeist! (SFW Rated PG)

[ClickityHack]

There is some genius double-meaning layed down in editing here, like taking everything Peter Joseph said and slapping it back in his face. lol I love it!

[SGR1000]

He was pointing out that through the years ..... there has been the same shite being portrayed to the "people" time after time after time.

There is something else going on it's called oppression of the people

[joshism12]

this makes me think of two bands who write both awesome music... obviously one has been much influenced... I think modernizing movies or documentaries, is sometimes a good thing... doesn't really matter... yet I feel this is a video to prove a point to prove

[perplexfraction]

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[73samuelsj]

what none of you realize is that the fact that man has always twisted and contorted the word of God if you havent wholeheartly searched for yourself the true nature of God then you don't have any knowlege of who and what He is. how people shun the Word of God is proof that satan has power over people tricking them into thinking that He is not real. look around you it has been prophecied before and after Jesus all the things of today I pray that people will stop denying the power thereof

[combatsportking]

a bunch of NON-BELIEVERS create these "tweeked" films...I rater be stone dumb and believe God, then let the new age hipsters who are only looking to get famous fuck with my mind and the truth...

[GnosticNinja]

All of the religious/astrological material in the film are ancient mystery school teachings. ANCIENT, meaning they aren't new ideas.

The dumbed down Exoteric version has been totally corrupted besides the very few who independently understand through meticulous personal study.

(as it should be)

THAT is why these films suggest you quit playing the part of an imbecile by making truth your personal hobby.

'Jesus' suggests this emphatically.

[VinnfordSansbury]

@GnosticNinja Very well said Gnostic-san.

[Punkeloco]

The zeitgeist movie explains and expose all the sources of corruption in human history. The movie is letting us know something that everybody knows but everybody wants to ignore and that is that governments are always lying to society and manipulating it , religions are always trying to get more power and money by brainwashing people, and corporations are always trying to expand their empires over the world. Just look at the shity religious and corrupted world we have been living.

[VinnfordSansbury]

@Punkeloco Curious choice of words considering the fact that their citations of source material is corrupted. You should really watch the series and tally the flawed citations.

[Punkeloco]

@VinnfordSansbury...we don't need to look for citations to see how the government lies..can't you see how we humans are divided? there are not a common sense of humanity in this country..there are chinese, blacks, mexicans, caucasians..blah blah, there are republicans or democrats...am sure you have heard this "divide and conquer"...religion divides humanity are you a muslim, a catholic, a budist or a christian..even christianity is divided..these are facts..we dont need of citations for this..

[MercuryRis]

@VinnfordSansbury Uh so is the Bible. Just look at the census in primary sources vs. the Bible. Its totally wrong. AND the bible contradicts itself constantly, not that Id expect you to believe it, but it is.

[VinnfordSansbury]

@MercuryRis Sorry, which comment is this in reply to? Yes, the Bible is full of riddling contradictions. Perhaps they are there to remind God's people not to stop thinking logically. (joke btw) One must remember that for everything there is a time and the Bible is a progressive account of the history of Yaweh's people. How they describe Him is based on their growing understanding of Him. As far as historical accuracy, a lot of things do match up more often than not it seems, but not all...

[mxy2kaxl]

so what is history it has to be same history u stupid vinnfordsansbury

[Xijnjoey38]

Oh, really? I thought it involved science fiction. Totally dissociated from what perception and insight says. These are the supposed gods, who are all the "others"?

[silktime520]

people who watch dont for get that the evil one has been here sence day one. he has the knowledge of the universe. he has been under cover for thousands of years fooling man. The word of GOD in the Holly Bible has not been wrong once. It is proven look it up. dont fall for this bull

[VinnfordSansbury]

@silktime520 The Devil is in the details as it is said. In this case, the permutation of details over time.

[MercuryRis]

@silktime520 Uh, the "holly" bible says bats are birds, look it up.

[Kingme300]

This video is great and not for a selfish reason at all but because it shows that we all should research what we learn over time inside, outside, above, and bottom.

[hilbertdepilbert]

matthew 1:20 for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.

HOLY GHOST!!!!!

Jesus is born and lives in the holy ghost,believe whatever you want to believe.

[clintonio23]

the director of zeitgeist came out and said alot of his movie was based on jordan maxwells research. so....?

[VinnfordSansbury]

So here is the point

1. Its ironic that Peter Joseph would simply repackage a film to try and prove Christ is a repackaged sun god and slightly hypocritical since he didn't give credit for it up front.

2. Neither side divulges any reliable sources

3. The sources they do divulge are repackaged bad theology that is over a century out-dated which is also kind of ironic and hypocritical.

4. All other sources could have just been summed up by "Taken from 'The Naked Truth'"

[clintonio23]

Either way. I enjoyed both videos. If anything, their entertaining.

[VinnfordSansbury]

Yes, especially when re-cut side by side. 

:3

Thanks for watching and commenting.

[tinman842]

god isnt your personal vengance machine to destoy others and punish the bully who picked on you pathetic ass on the playground....if you need a god to save you twenty four seven your a pathetic human being and a waste of life... pay your tenpercent looser...

[VinnfordSansbury]

Part of life is learning to use that divinity within you that is not you and not simply hoping and wishing everything goes your way. You must prepare to carry your OWN cross. Thats the REAL Christian Way.

On another note, the 10% tithe was originally just for the Levites. Nobody else. Its not a commandment. If your preacher owns a plane he DOESNT need it!

[tinman842]

the point moron is god isnt going to kill anyone or destroyy the world he created you must presume he has no forseit or vision of his own he must keep creating and destroying his work till he gets it right.. y our a fkn moron.. the real god could care less of your golden and glass palases nor does he have mercy for the week minded only the fitest survive..

[VinnfordSansbury]

Healthy debate is fine, especially if you are citing sources, but lets keep the name calling out of it. Remain civil and educate before you resort to savage tongues.

[tinman842]

it sure is funny no church ive ever been to catholic or christians ever mention horas... let alone he came first and was exact copy of jesus..... i was raised in the christian church... total cult... looser lieing money laundering cult...

[VinnfordSansbury]

Not every "christian" church is the Christian Church. Thanks for watching! Be sure to subscribe because I'm about to release some more episodes this month.

[tinman842]

it means that christians arnt shit they think theyre so high and mighty and going to saved some great slaughter the rest of us will face in folds... and they will sit back with god and laugh well now we all know therye waisting their hipocritical fkn lives... just as we all thought to begin with...  god lovem.... lol

[KungFatty]

i feel horible that thats your reality , why do you think real christians will laugh about such a sad subject ? its somthing to think about ,

[TENNSUMITSUMA]

you damn right well laugh, you fools had your chance and said in every way F GOD, so i dont see why it should be so surprising when god said F you too. and since we christian (real christian) did the work, i say why not

[tinman842]

@TENNSUMITSUMA even doctors.. and police etc.. dont get to the scene of an accident and say... illl help pull you from danger but you must tell me if you beleive in god.... lol you real chistians are true lost lambs ill give you that...... looser cults... open your eyes moron..

[TENNSUMITSUMA]

'ven doctors.. and police etc.. dont get to the scene of an accident and say... illl help pull you from danger but you must tell me if you beleive in god'

what the hell does that have to do with anything, what they do (and there being paid mind you, lets see if they do that without getting paid) has nothing to do with what you said and what I said, and im the moron, ok, rather be a moron than like you

[VinnfordSansbury]

What does any of this have to do with the video? *Tosses a bucket on the flame war* Stay on subject please.

[TENNSUMITSUMA]

hey i wasnt even talking to him/her

[clnmyjts]

It all esoteric B.S. We are symbolicly living in a duality. This duality is being minipulated by any and all whom want to make money off of writing books & gain a following for them selves.. Esoteric secrets " the puzzle game " The sun and the 4 seasons built around day and night threw out the year.. PLUS we have the! good and evil of man. The ying and the yang. positive & negitive. Love & hate. male & female. It is all about book writing. The self proclaimed enlightened ones.

[amzuel420]

I think the whole idea of religion and other beliefs such as Nibiru and the galactic alignment , are a lot like the concept of owning a pet rock. 1st the guy made millions selling you a rock then a year later he made millions more by selling you a book on how to feed and care for that rock. In comparison 1st a guy sells you Nibiru, then he sells you all the information on how to survive it. Interestingly, The Bible advises one to verify what they believe, more than any book I know of so far.

[KingfisnPunk]

poles are relativ to pov ,so if people were antimatter ,matter would be anti ?

[VinnfordSansbury]

Sorry, where does this figure in with the video exactly?

[KingfisnPunk]

i dont know .just thought i throw that out there lol sorry

[baddalbatross42]

...hmm...let's see...Horus vs.Set, Jesus vs. Satan,The coyote vs. the Road runner, Batman vs.The Joker...see where I'm going with this ? How about Logic vs. The Illogical, The Rational vs. The Irrational,Evolution vs.Creation, Science vs.Religion, Fact vs.Fiction, Reality vs.Spirituality...ect. Sounds like to me,what we are seeing and hearing here is, at it's core, an unusual and puzzling in it's design, method to confuse the historical with the theoretical. What s the goal here...? And why ?

[VinnfordSansbury]

The goal is to show that this argument is not new. The entire format of part one of Zeitgeist is a remix of this video from 1991. Its ironic considering PJ is so hung up on all these gods stealing ideas from one another supposedly.  Is it just coincidence that all this stuff is the same in each film? It raises more questions than answers.

[baddalbatross42]

This subject always has in my opinion. I'm impressed with your effort to clear the mysterious fog, if you will, surrounding a very touchy and profound topic. I imagine you receive your share of "critique's" from those who disagree with even trying to unravel the historic web that provide insight into the role cultural mythology and Ideology play in the similarities that seem to string through most religions,and those who simply misunderstand your intent by mistake.Keep up the good work.

[VinnfordSansbury]

Thanks a lot for your comments.  Yes I get my fair share of folk who are strongly opinionated for and against what I have to say, but I welcome both sides to the table. If you just outright believe something new and profound after watching it once on youtube with out looking in to it first or having hard evidence there is something wrong with you. ;-) The fact people debate this first and ponder it a bit is a sure sign of hope for the future.

[Bloodlyne357]

Lol and it is a very itersting and controversial topic and point of interst.

thank you for your efforts in tryin to educate the world a bit further then most has before you.

[Bloodlyne357]

Please explain to me what you are tryin to accomplish with picking the movie apart.

As im a little on the lost side here lol

[Bloodlyne357]

Ok....im slightly confused, what the zeitgeist video says makes tremenous sense. I can see wanting to be a little more throught about the whole thing BUT are you saying what he says is wrong? or most of what he says is not entirely true and should maybe be investigated more on an idvidual level?....im so confused...

[VinnfordSansbury]

Here is what I have found so far:

1. None of this info is new. Its been recycled and rehashed since the 1500's.

2. Much of it is misquoted and the info has devolved over time to fit the arguments.

3. Some of it is true and much of the more controversial claims are not and should be investigated.

4. People who watch the film are confused about which is which and my aim is to help show them where the info is coming from in episodes 4 and up. This is like an overview episode mostly. :)

[flyboy1c]

Thank you SO much for making and posting this. I knew something was off about that Zeit movie. Anything can look like anything and mot often does, but there is only one truth.

[VinnfordSansbury]

Your thanks is very appreciated. :-) Thats exactly how I felt when I saw this film. It shook me to the core but I didn't have the time to dig up the facts myself until just recently (with a lot of help I should say from some online friends). Feel free to spread this video around to anyone else who may need to be set on the straight and narrow again.

[VinnfordSansbury]

First of all, the system did not fail, leadership failed. If we had set up a bail-out system that bailed out people in debt, the banks would have made money regardless and alleviated the sufferings of the population. A fiat system is highly maluable, but the people up top are of course shaping it to their will. If it were outright illegal for the government to hand over money to private corporations so many problems would be solved outright.

[BeyondDGrave]

Well, if the banks bailed people out of debt, that would eliminate the capitalist system of weeding out the weak to make way for a new evolving product. One of the points in the video that the creator mentions, is that even if money is made, there is still more money that is needed to pay off current debt, and that the money to pay off those debts are made by printing out more, money.. thus.. a never-ending vacuum consuming resources irregardless.

[VinnfordSansbury]

Ok, so if you bailed out the weak, they would still be in debt to the FED via income tax. At least they wouldn't be going bankrupt and compounding the problem. Businesses would stay open allowing people to juggle money through the system, which is really what economics boils down to, moving money around.

[BeyondDGrave]

As for bailing out the weak, and assuming that the income tax is a valid tax, it does indeed provide problems... because now it has disrupted the flow of money and the basis of a capitalistic society. The basis is,... if something doesn't work, there is a reason it didn't work.. people weren't ready for it, didn't adjust to the technological market, etc..

[VinnfordSansbury]

The other system didn't work either, because bankers had the power to conspire against the system. Remember, the FIRST crash happened at a time when we DIDN'T have a central bank. The main problem is there aren't enough checks and balances on money. Money is power too. We have a minimum wage and no max wage. Congress isn't held to the same standards as us either.

On a related note, I still don't see how building a city solves the other problem presented in the film: Justice for 9/11/2001

[BeyondDGrave]

You were still looking at the first film.. In my belief in the second one, the creator of the film narrows his focus to solutions, and not talk of the problems like most films of this nature often do.

False flag attacks occur, but Justice comes in not slaying or punishing the other party, but helping them and ourselves.

ps: Of course, there is debate that the First crash was caused by three very wealthy men whom you probably already know.

[VinnfordSansbury]

Yeah. If you can help the people who committed the attacks on the WTC to NEVER do it again I'm sure you'll be the most popular person alive. Where is my sarcasm font?

[BeyondDGrave]

The people who are still alive you mean?

If they grew up in America, I wonder if their ideals would have been different.. ;)

The environment shapes people for the most part. I don't think there is anything to debate about so far.. lol

[BeyondDGrave]

When an external force with virtually no limit on spending, pumps more money into a system that should have died a long time ago.. it provides more problems long-term.

Of course, I don't like to get into political debates anymore, because I see no real lasting value in it.. it is similar to "Picking the lesser of two evils", to which I dismiss the thought of picking one to begin with.

[VinnfordSansbury]

You're right, in a fiat system someone is going to lose the game of musical chairs IF the music stops. But the music stops quite often. The problem is not so apparent in the USA even. If you go to the poor countries that suffer most from our global economy and credit that can never be paid, then it becomes a mucher bigger problem.

[VinnfordSansbury]

I just realized I typed, "mucher". LOL. I think its time for bed. I will respond to any further comments tomorrow. G'night!

[BeyondDGrave]

There was an interview with Peter Joseph, the creator of the films, on why he chose to focus on religion, and 9/11 on his films. His response was that at that time, he began to question it, and looked into how history repeats itself, and dug deeper (or something along those lines).

The focus of the latest film (Addendum) is not about retribution for 9/11, or Religion, but unification of human beings and providing a realistic brighter future for our children and us via technology and automation.

[VinnfordSansbury]

I worry that the system they are setting up has the appearance of freedom, but at the same time it could have the potential to micro-manage your life. If it works, great. I'm just skeptical.

Yeah, I know what the focus is. Religion WAS in there though at the end. I'm saying he lost focus. We should never forget especially since this JUST HAPPENED 8 years ago. It should be investigated like a crime and everyone who knew and didn't speak up should be put behind bars.

[BeyondDGrave]

Yes, it should be looked at as a crime, but the problem is, society currently views it as a fringe topic... as they would view the Venus Project in such a light as well.

To combat this, an example needs to be made. A city needs to be created,... open to the public to see with their own eyes what we are capable of. After they see this city and return to their homes.. an impact will set it, making them question why we can't all live in such homes and in abundance, and technological ease.

[VinnfordSansbury]

You think 9/11 is s fringe topic or the truth movement in general or just the Venus Project?

[BeyondDGrave]

We must relate to the people on their common terms.

When a building which wasn't even hit by anything, crumbled to the ground, it raises an eyebrow..

The Venus Project is possible... people just need to see it with their own eyes and experience it. There is a term called something like "psychological ownership" that salesmen use.. by letting you drive a car.. or put on a piece of jewelry..it makes you feel like you own it... it is a selling tactic.. the same must apply to The Venus Project.

[VinnfordSansbury]

So you think all 3 are fringe right now?

[daizee106]

Yeah, a system called communism. There is no utopia. We must see that if we are to move forward. I like your vid so far. Nice to see some facts and not just someone trying to make money and push their communist agenda. Thanks

[VinnfordSansbury]

Thanks. Nice to hear some positive feedback. :) It keeps me going! We are currently spending about $80 a month to fund our video project, but its worth every penny.  As it stands right now we are working on episode 7 and I'm going to have to shell out money to buy some of the books that Peter Joseph cites because they aren't available online. Its free to get the message but it costs money to fact-check it.

[VinnfordSansbury]

The entire series is the review / rebuttal. The first 2 episodes focused on the intro to the movie and dealt with the build up. The 3rd episode shows that TZM part I is based almost entirely off someone else's original work and then starts grinding it down to the primary sources, giving a quick example with Jesus VS Krishna. I am not about jamming the whole thing in 10 minutes. I want to show people where this stuff comes from. If you want 10 minute reviews, ep3 speaks for itself.

[BeyondDGrave]

I see. Well, I enjoy hearing your thoughts. I look forward to the future episodes on the economic outlook, as well as the Venus project's proposal, and The Zeitgeist Movement in general. Copy or not, it does provide some interesting outlooks, especially on the federal reserve, and the necessity of money with the new age of technology and automation.

[VinnfordSansbury]

I think there is something absurd here that most people do not realize: The Venus project keeps asking for their money. People watched this film which presents 3 seperate areas that stirred people up inside, tied it back to one source, and then next year offered a solution that requires a lot of funding which probably won't get off the ground. Instead of saying, "Lets use this money to build a model of the WTC and test it out!" they are saying "REVOLUTION". Its very fishy.

[BeyondDGrave]

No.. it seems you misunderstand, or did not listen to their intentions... they propose building a model city, and some say to build it in Northern Alberta, Canada... also, who is simply saying "Revolution" ? ps: Of course you have to work within a monetary system to overthrow it. pss: Jace was one of the cooler planeswalkers.. but I enjoy Liliana much better... at least her abilities..

[VinnfordSansbury]

Ron Paul, Michael Moore, the Tea Party People and yes, Venus Project are all in favor of revolution in some form or another be it monetary, technological, etc. I am a skeptic though. It takes a lot to convince me of anything. From what I have seen so far, Peter Joseph does not strike me as the sort to lead us in to the next century. I'm not saying he won't, I am just saying that we should look in to this before making conclusions.

[BeyondDGrave]

I agree about looking into it.

I favor this new design because it doesn't "Muddle the mixture". It looks at the game of money, and dismisses it.

Whereas, there is Michael Moore, Ron Paul, McCain... all these people are merely providing alternatives to a system that is inherently meaningless.

The Venus Project "zooms" out from the picture, and takes a broader look at why money is needed to begin with, if we have the resources to provide for everyone.

[BeyondDGrave]

The Venus Project people first want awareness.

The awareness with the intent to boycott irrelevant institutions, and create meaningful new ones.

I have been reading the "Modern Money Mechanics" "guide", and it is quite interesting none-the-less. I'd like to hear if you have thoughts on alternatives to a failing monetary system that trump the venus project's ideas...

[VinnfordSansbury]

I am pretty focused on the historical part of the film in addition to the normal day to day routine of my own life, but I'll be sure to check that out when I get a chance.

[BeyondDGrave]

Where is your Zeitgeist movement review / rebuttal...

I watched all 3 episodes, and didn't get to any mention of TZM....?

Also, the only debates I heard were in reference to religion... ?

[VinnfordSansbury]

I think you misunderstand the scope I am dealing with here. I am starting at the very begining and going all the way through in linear fashion. Its not just 3 episodes. I will probably end up making many many more. The amount of information Peter Joseph covers is so jumbled in the entire new age movement, its going to take epic amounts of explanation to untie the gordian mind knot. Besides, it gives you something educational to watch 2 or 3 times a week.

[VinnfordSansbury]

Thanks Rambo's 2nd cousin.

My guess is they mostly did it for money. You can hire Derick Partridge to say just about anything. But before I theorize too much I will take the drag-net approach and look at just the facts. *Dun dah dun dun! Dun dah dun dun dah!*

[rambos2ndcousin]

But do the artists lacking the truth have no vision or were they part of an agenda to suck people in like Falsey, leading them and people like him down the garden path? Good video.

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