What is Forgiveness? Commentary on The Death of Zachery Tims and Adultery

[angierandomstuff]

yes yes yes i agree with you fully, yes we all need to forgive but just cuz you forgive a person don't mean you need to give them another chance, forgiving and trusting is two different things!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[eligah8]

I agree with u.GOD permits divorce on the grounds of sexual immorality...u can forgive but u can move on...read matthew 19chpt. and 1Cor.7chpt....Its ur choice wether or not u want to reconcile or not...but Jesus gave us the right to divorce when their is sexual immorality.My ex cheated for yrs and did wat she wanted but Christ warned me and i was stupid and 1yr later i founded out wat she did...then 2yrs later she cheated again.Im divorce and remarried on Biblical grounds and im glad about it!

[MrLgraham41]

You should read Matthew 5: 21-48. Matthew 19, Mark 10 and Luke 16:18. If someone wrongs or hurts you and you have forgiven them; the relationship should be restored to back to what it was prior to the offense. If you are married and your husband offends you and you have forgiven him are you kissing him again; are you hugging and touching him again, are you complementing again Ephesians 5:33 as Christ commands you. The relationship and the person is restored 100% less than that is unforgiveness.

[YaNVme]

@MrLgraham41 I hate when people decide to define what forgiveness is. You can quote scriptures if you would like, but I personally would not tell a person they are wrong and unforgiving for not staying in a relationship where the vows were broken not to mention he put her life in danger. If you choose to do that then that's fine with me. I don't judge. Since you're big on scripture, do you recall the commandment that says "thou shalt not commit adultery"?

[YaNVme]

@MrLgraham41 I suggest people start using their heads. It's senseless to read a book and fail to apply common sense while doing so

[YaNVme]

@MrLgraham41 I'm all for preserving a marriage, but i'm also for preserving my body and respect by not allowing someone to lie, cheat, and put my life in harms way

[cbluver2316]

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[themukisa11]

great video. I'm going to do a video response later. way too much to type... 

[YaNVme]

@themukisa11 I can't wait to see your response video! :)

[polifonyann]

uh sis um your hair is sent from the GODS for real!!! i almost have ADD on the subject your discussing, because im having hair envy. lol

[Chantelle564]

@polifonyann lol

[Chantelle564]

LUVin' THE HAIR!!!!

[fatimayarie]

OMG .. i am sorry to say this but .. WOW to your hair!!!! and I agree with the comment of forgiveness!

[Buddhalocks]

I agree with you. Just because you forgive someone doesn't mean you have to continue to deal with them. Whether if it's a relationship or friendship. I always tell people never go backwards. You forgive, you heal you move forward.

[doogienahnah]

I agree with everything you said about forgiveness. I wholeheartedly believe in ending any relationship that causes pain and distress. Quiet as it's kept, sometimes others, family especially do want you to be unhappy and miserable. I guess it makes them feel better about their own short comings. *shrugs* Their are plenty of people I have no contact with but do not hold any resentment towards. They can never be apart of my life because of their hateful and destructive mentality.

[doogienahnah]

Forgive: to cease to feel resentment against: to forgive one's enemies.

[maximuslyricus]

Zachery's death cud have been inflicted by someone other than himself. But the operative words are "cud have been". We don't know what happened. I also agree that divorce destroys families. And I believe that God, in His wisdom, knew this and all things when He gave us an option out in the event of adultery. Thanx for doing this vid. I seek spiritual guidance directly from God and therefore, b4 this vid, had never heard of these people. Great subject matter.

[maximuslyricus]

stay in the marriage and thereby risk her very life. I also believe that no human can spiritually or behaviorally restore another human. Zachery's restoration was and is between him and God. Finally, I believe that a woman, or a man for that matter, can sex her spouse morning noon and night in the most supreme of all manner, and he cud still commit adultery just like a person whose stomach is full can continue to eat. I do agree that both the individuals cud have been false prophets, and that

[maximuslyricus]

and what she may have done regarding Zachery Tim's death, we cannot say. I can say that I believe that if Riva had chosen to stay in the marriage, that is no guarantee that Zachery Tims wud have remained faithful. If he had done what he'd done in the past, which is what people usually do, then Riva wud have knowingly exposed herself to all manner of sexual diseases, which cud have led to her death. I believe that she was under no moral, christian, ethical, or any other kind of obligation to

[maximuslyricus]

adultery causes her to commit adultery…” My interpretation of this, together with the other scriptures u quoted on marriage, is that of course God wud have us -husband and wife - forgive one another and cleave to one another, even in the case of adultery. But if we - husband or wife, choose to do so, we may divorce our spouse only in the case whereby our spouse has committed adultery. Therefore, I think Riva Tims exercised a God given option by divorcing. As regarding what's in her heart,

[maximuslyricus]

Hey girl! 1st and foremost yo hair is devine, da bid'ness, all dat and a bag of chips!!! I listened to both vids, and I pretty much agree with what u said in this vid. I tried to leave a very long comment on Ringo's vid, but keep getting "error..." So I'll just try and leave it here: "Hi Ringo. I disagree with much of what u said. But agree with other things u said. 1st and foremost, I want to point out Mt 5:32 which states, “But I say to you that whoever divorces his wife for any reason except

[starlamotivates]

Your hair is BEAUTIFUL!!!!

[starlamotivates]

He was in a relationship with the stripper, it wasn't like it was a one night stand.

[starlamotivates]

I agree with you 100%. I don't believe for a moment that this was the first time he cheated and she walked away with 4 kids. As women we usually go through the ringer for our husbands especially when we have children.

[kharyzma4u]

wow look at all that hair.... BEAUTIFUL!!! great to see you too girl!!

[Sheslocdup]

I was married for 10 years and forgave my ex numerous times (he didn't learn). Zachery Tims publicly humiliated his wife, who know what he's done the public didn't know. Some ppl can only think within their minds constraints when seriously they need to view both sides and respect that.