Stagecoach- part 3

[jtschau]

I wish I could have seen this movie in a theater back in the day instead of the junk Hollywood makes today.

[mcfirefly3]

...are.

[mcfirefly3]

The country and the world were messed up, and they still

[mcfirefly3]

It doesn't cluck its tongue at the audience or shake its finger in their faces. But it does address race and the injustice of white-Indian relations, subtly.

[mcfirefly3]

Jacoblgames, I think the idea is that if peoole drop their sense of moral superiority and outrage a little bit, they can maybe learn something. The movie starts off with the assumptions of the times it was based in, and it subtly addresses the assumptions of its 1930s audience, but you have to be willing to give it a chance to see this.

[righteousgroove]

I'm partial to the weed as well.

[BeantownJim]

great movie.B/W or color.

[IGOROZKARSKY]

ITS THE LATEST FASHION NOW TO PUT THE WHITE MAN DOWN,

NEXT THING WE´LL PROBAPLY HERE IS THAT THE MAN WHO

INVENTED THE LIGHT-BULB WAS AN INDIAN !

WHY NOT ?

THEY TURNED FRIAR TUCK INTO A BLACK MAN,

TO BE POLITICALLY RIGHT.

MINORITY RIGHTS & SUCH, YOU KNOW,

TO HELL WITH THE TRUTH.......

[boiledcrap]

You gotta love Doc Boone ^^

[epicvlas]

great western my favorit  john ford western1 is amzing in color1

[Impowers]

There's a lot of Raoul Walsh's "The Big Trail' in "Stagecoach" aside from Walsh's discovery, Wayne himself. Carradine's character is a duplicate of the treacherous gambler in "The Big Trail" and the ensemble motif with Wayne firmly the centerpiece is right out of the earlier and more epic film by Walsh. Wayne hlmself was even more charismatic in the earlier picture.

[TVfreakje1]

It's sad only the colour version seems to be fully uploaded.

[johnwaynemovie]

@TVfreakje1 There is a good quality Black & White version uploaded as well.

It's from youtube channel johnwaynetv. I just added it on my playlists

[BLAYDZ99]

looks nicer in black and white . . . kinda looks low quality in color, but it certainly isnt a low quality movie

[olmose]

Brother, Duke was sure slim and trim in '39!

[vinciano]

fuckk!!! part from 7.32 to 8.02 miss in my dvd version of this movie. What a tragedy.....

[darlinsugaree]

aww i love the relationship between between dallas and ringo.

[locheelad2]

Kill the Colour.

[j6282]

kill the you

[locheelad2]

When colourization started, James Stewart and many other great actors, tried to have it stopped. Sad for you, unable to watch a film in B and W.

[carbert68]

One of the best American movies ever made. Puts to shame 99% of the junk they make today.

[CitizenKANE2277]

Completely agree.

[jacoblgames]

@carbert68 I can think of so many people that beg to differ and for one good reason.

[carbert68]

@jacoblgames You don't say.

[jacoblgames]

@carbert68 Cowboys = heroes, Native Americans = villains. Think about that.

[carbert68]

@jacoblgames It's unfortunate if that spoils it for you. When I call Stagecoach a classic, I'm talking less about cultural context or any prejudices involved, more about things like acting, direction, and an intelligent script that gives the viewer some credit. The Apaches are incidental to the story. They're simply a threat that must be dealt with. The film is concerned with the characters inside the stagecoach. There are westerns which deal with the plight of N.A.'s. This is not one of them.

[jacoblgames]

@carbert68 Stage Coach showed a small group of travelers trying to get through hostile Indian territory to reach the safety of Lordsburg, all the while fearing the bloodthirsty Geronimo (Described as "A Butcher") and his warriors. We see burnt down cabins and we hear of the off-screen atrocities committed by the 'evil' Geronimo. The Indians relentlessly pursue the unimportant coach, determined to destroy it for no apparent reason. Yeah, that's not messed up at all.

[carbert68]

@jacoblgames Maybe it is messed up. Though it's a fact that from 1858 to 1886, no aboriginal leader was more feared by Americans than Geronimo. Raids upon ranches and villages did take place. Is it so far-fetched to think the Apaches might attack a stagecoach traveling through their territory? Yes, the chase scene is ridiculous in that all the Apaches had to do was shoot one of the horses, but this is a Hollywood movie, not a history lesson. I'm judging the film on that basis; you are not.

[jacoblgames]

@carbert68 Tell that to Robwriter, writer of The Interpretation of Native American Indians in Hollywood Films.

[carbert68]

@jacoblgames Will definitely let him know. Sure he'll be interested. Funny, but tried looking him up on google and can't seem to locate him. Anyway, you stick to your politics and make sure you apply it to every film, book, song, painting, television show, and play you happen to come across and ignore every other aspect, aesthetic or otherwise. It's your loss, except for the fact you get to feel all superior to insensitive morons like me who appreciate these things for their own sake. Adios!

[jacoblgames]

@carbert68 You don't know me at all. So shut it! If you did you'd know I'm not one for politics. It's why I'm registered as Independent.

[kingslegion1]

@jacoblgames tell me where to register as an independent.. im nearly 50 yrs old and have been to nearly every state in the union (not oregon) and have never heard one soul mention REGISTERING as an independent.. if your gonna lie.. for gods sake make it a believable one.. and DO NOT TRY TO GIVE ME SOME HORSEHSHIT ON THIS.

[jacoblgames]

@kingslegion1 Are you freaking kidding me? I saw it on my voter registration form.

[getgopi1]

4:12. The best moment in the movie ;-)