f1 - onboard - 2005 - fernando alonso - bahrain

[Naganiet200]

alonso is the best !

[ThierryDanHenry]

Quick Chicken :hap:

[kaorimoc]

No i don't want to be in f1 at all, as u know its not what it used to be (although i watch), but im sure

that redbull x-1 car has made a mark in this world, and sure enough we gona have a cyber formula kind of style in the future, I would be happy to be involved with that in that field

[celarente]

I agree with you... Alonso is a very good driver. I know better pilots such as Senna, Lauda, Prost, etc, but I just said that he doesn´t have a good human character. (I admit that I said too much, but I was sooo happy that Vettel won the championship...)

By the way, there is no sense to say that I have to get myself a world championship title to talk about a driver... can you talk about what Alonso is capable and the others not? Have you already won a world championship??

[kaorimoc]

@celarente by what means do u judge others having a good human character? can you tell me your guidelines to a good human character? and why does that matter so much this is racing for fuck sake, im talking about making the best out of the package you are given, and clearly red bull was way too fast this year just like brawns before that and in terms of a 4 point difference between vettel in a less inferior car is just mind blowing performance.

[celarente]

@kaorimoc about the good human character I can say a few words because that was the subject of my PhD dissertation in the University of Munich. But I think that books like Nichomachean Ethics, Critique of Judgment, Beyond Good and Evil and others are better than my dissertation. Have you ever read one of this classics?

[celarente]

@kaorimoc Do me a favor, forget about it and let me in peace. Sorry if I insult you when I said the things about Alonso. I see that he´s really important to you life... you probably know him better than anyone in the world... maybe you are close friends... if so, say my saludos to Mr. Alonso.

[kaorimoc]

@celarente Please im not going to do you any favors first of all, and please look into what alonso has acheived compared to his unfortunate events, and please i dont care about what you wrote for your thesis in garmany , and im not a friend of alonso or a diehard fan i just appreciate these kind of people are actually out there in this world, and you don't seem to understand much of it honestly, my profession is in the fields of kinesthetics and mechanical engineering and race in pro kart champs

[celarente]

@kaorimoc you cannot be serious! I just said what I wrote in my thesis to answer a question that you did, but you have a bad memory: "by what means do u judge others having a good human character?" but that´s waste of time, I see that you are just a frustrated person that dream of being at f1, but will never go beyond "pro" kart champ. (I though that "pro" are the people that earn some money with what they made, You are probably similar to Liusi, Petrov and others that have to pay to race).

[kaorimoc]

@celarente and you cant even take sarcasm, of course you havent won a world championship,

but thats the degree of talk ill go to to show you that you are just a fag that can't analyze things properly due to your limited brain capacity that you inherited from your ancestors, it makes no sense to say that to i know better pilots, and i dont know how the fuck you judge them, dont even start with the vettel winning the championship shit... pls ffs why am i even writing this bullshit

[celarente]

@kaorimoc have you ever heard about sarcarsm into sacarsm?

wow, wow I cannot understand why people like you insult the other with such words "has a limited brain capacity inherited from ancestors" just because the other don´t have the same point of view. This is the same what the Nazis said about the jews... this is a totalitary thought and totaly antidemocratic. But I can´t expect too much from Internet...

[celarente]

ha, ha, ha!!! Alonso you suck!!

Alonso were involved in all that was wrong in F1 in the last years:

spionage case (ferrari mclaren);

fight against hamilton;

piquets crash;

overtake manouver against Massa in German GP...

he is totaly a bad guy...

[f1baker]

@celarente hear hear, couldn't agree more, huge justice that he lost the title in 2010, his reaction to Petrov holding him up for 30 odd laps made me laugh...

[celarente]

@f1baker thanks for the reply. Till now Alonso's fans have just blustered me. :o) But they not see that although Alonso is a (very) good pilot, he has lots of character defects. And of course he didn´t do everything alone, but was sadly always involved.

I promissed to myself that if Alonso were champion this year I would never more watch F1. Since Ayrton Senna (and Prost, Mansel, Piquet, Berger, etc) the sport is not anymore the same, anyway.

[f1baker]

@celarente wish I was old enough to remember Ayrton Senna, but I was only 5 when he passed away :( very spectacular style at the wheel, Top Gear's tribute to him was very touching...

[celarente]

@f1baker I was 17 y.o. That was really sad day... :o( There will be a new film about him. Whatch the trailler in you tube. Look for: Ayrton Senna: The Movie (Trailer).

Best regards.

[f1baker]

@celarente thanks will do, about time there was a film about a proper motor racing personality :)

[f1baker]

@celarente by the way, i saw the film recently. very pleased with how it turned out :) felt like being on a roller coaster looking at the famous onboard shots. when Imola came up towards the end, my heart rate rose massively because i knew what was coming. best of all because it was in the order that they happened originally it felt like a real film with a storyline =D

[celarente]

@f1baker I am happy that you enjoy it. Shame that ends so tragically... i hope we see all the great men and women of the humanity in another life... but dont wanna think about that, cause I am not sure if there is another life and I am sad with it. Sorry, today i am too emotional! See you!

[kaorimoc]

@celarente you obviously don't know what alonso is capable of , the fact that he was the sole reason to retirement of shumi and his 4 year winning streak... alonso is the most complete driver in many ways, and the fact he holds a back to back world championship title. Why dont you go get yourself a world championship title and then talk about alonso..

[tupac9322]

the old configuration of the circuit is better than this now ...

[OmarF1]

understeer. :d I miss the way Alonso drove back in 2005 quite unique.

[jraybay]

Not really....He drove like the rest of the front runners

[OmarF1]

I Disagree, nobody turned the wheel so agressive back then, that was a clear sign of understeer in the Renault. If Hamilton do this in his oversteer style he would be spinning quite often :), but that was back in 2005, cars are very different from today's cars.

[PulletSurprise]

@OmarF1

He had to.

The Renaults from their championship years had very softly sprung and heavily damped rear suspension with a lot of rearward weight distribution. This made it very hard to break rear traction on throttle while having the effect of pushing and sliding the unloaded front wheels if not driven like Alonso did, which was to slow the car up, get it turned, and mat the throttle as soon as it was convenient. The rear weight bias also made for quicker directional changes.

[bromanormi]

here's a good question, where do you ppl find these vid clips?

[deion94]

Gracias por el video, ¿sabes si es exactamente la vuelta que le dio la pole?

[fsamarra]

creo q si

[jotadani92]

@deion94 si

[Busi1988]

@deion94 no es la vuelta de pole, porque sigue acelerando tras acabarla (y en superpole en seguida soltaban) y tambien porque sale alguien de boxes cuando no tocaria ;)

[RobertNewVision]

It's the voice of Martin Brundle.

[tincho35]

I Liked it :)