Funbadger, you ask fair and profound questions. We don't know whether the soldier ditched the boy or if he was killed. Striking for me, is that in these stories it is usually the child that loses interest because they are rapidly changing.
Sorry for my poor english.But for all ignorants who wrote hate- comments here may be repeated: The film bases on the autobiographical novel by the Dutch author Rudi van Dantzig,*1933, who in his main profession was one of the most important choreographers of the late 20th century. Surely this relationship had it's dark sides,as any relationship,but he confesses to his early experience of love.In his artistical work van Dantzig also thematized homosexuality and the social repression against it.
The 1st time I got to kow about this film my immediate reaction was WTF!I dont give a damn how some reviews say how aestically such a sensitive issue was trated to me it was plain revolting and disgusting. Pedophilia is not beautiful it is warped/twisted/perverted and pedophiles deserve to be sent to Broadmoor lunatic asylum for treatment. I have nothing against gays infact some of my friends are gay films like Brokeback Mountain, are my all time favourites but pedophilia should not be promoted
the movie is absolutely beautiful, its about a boy discovering love in a time when that kind of love could get you killed. and to the people calling out faggots and sickos thoes that mean you hate LOLITA too, and toes that mean you never look at those 15yo girls walking around like tramps. you all do so shut the fuck up
I haven´t read the book and haven´t seen the movie. I am gay and I didn´t like what I saw in this clip. The soldier was a pedophile. I keep asking myself how could anyone let that child play a role like that in the movie. Does he have any responsible parents ??!!!
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@carambaleba Don't play to be that innocent, my friend. I'm 46 and my little friend is only 12. First, I had to fight his father's mind and then his mother's and everybody around us. Today, the both of us live in paradise. You don't relly know how strong, pure and beautiful can be a love born at the same time in two hearts. Besides, he is who drives our relationship (believe it or not). Pedophile love is a two ways situation. And nobody else care, but the two involved. Thanks for your attention.
@Littlelionman1989 - Actually, I reacted the same when I heard about the film "Lolita." But it's fairly typical for a faggot to defend paedophilia. It's part of the pervert psychology. And you know fine well that people don't only reach a video because they sought it out. Look to your right... That's called the related video section and it's how most people navigate this website. Unless of course you're a sick pervert who actively seeks videos that makes pedophilia look romantic (like yourself).
@Littlelionman1989 - Pedophilia is inherent to any thrill-seeking pervert. Gay people are obviously thrill-seekers and thrill-seekers don't have any moral restrictions or self-control. They are immoral and undiscriminating sexual opportunists constantly requiring disturbing stimuli to get off. They perceive shock as pleasurable so are attracted to any behavior that produces feelings of shock (such as gay sex or child rape). Orientation is a myth. There are perverts and non-perverts.
@FritoLays1236 - Am I really so intimidating that you can only send me a generic abbreviation? Or are you afraid you'll look your stupid if you express an opinion?
i saw this movie on Netflix>>Watch Instantly>>Gay & Lesbian section. in my opinion it's one of the most beautiful movies i've ever seen. it reminded me when i was twelve discovering my sexual orientation and wanting a hot steamy Canadian soldier with dreamy eyes. teehee :D i'm jealous of Jueron
lo recuerdo cada día hoy por cosas de la vida estamos separados por lo que decidí a que sea mayor de edad...... algunas veces me escribe y me dice cosas increíbles.... sufrimos ambos por la espera se que me ama y yo lo amo es sorprendente como somos el uno para el otro a pesar de la diferencia de edad...te quiero pequeño y no hay día que no llore por ti soy como un fantasma sin corazón y sin vida..........hermosa película véanla con mente abierta
realmente es una historia que va mas aya, trasciende las fronteras de amor ...sin maldad , es la expresión del amor puro que trasciende los limites humanos...si si es posible que se enamore un muchacho de 12 años de uno de 20 ..a mi me ocurrió algo semejante con un chico de 12 años y a pesar de los años aun lo llevo y lo tengo en mi corazón.... simplemente el niño me enamoro y transformo toda mi vida y rompió todos mis esquemas morales nunca he sentido ni sentiré un amor tan fuerte......
God, this movie was so beautiful. I just watched it for the first time today. I can't even get it out of my mind, it was soooooo amazing! Just beautiful. I cannot stop talking about it. I am gunna make all of my friends watch it. So beautiful! Is this a true story??? And is the book even better???
i'm still crying while i'm reading what you've written... it was a great but deeply sad story, and made me think of many reasons about the situation like why didn't he bid a farewell or why didn't he came back... after all i still want to believe that it was a love story, though my mind is full of things i wanna say for, "for a lost soldier"... even the title forces my tears to flow whenever i remember it.
for whom is it the bad dream? for beeing a young boy, just insurred, maybe in love, but abused by an older men or what? this video realy touched me deeply, the boy is alway laughing... but, ok, the song is awesome, realy.
i F'n love this movie. I need to get it on dvd. I was that boy growing up. Though sadly, never a soldier came to rescue me from suburban misery. Not even a priest, go figure.
It's a beautiful song. Great lyrics. The mandolin and piano are spectacular. It's perfect with the video clips. Thanks for posting and for your great effort.
As gay man who pursued a relationship with an adult when I was eleven, I have to say this movie did not seem like a love story. The soldier was a predator, albeit an attractive one.
I received my DVD, which I bough recently, only on Arpil 10th, 2011. Eagerly I ran to the DVD player to watch it. However, I was absolutely disappointed by the whole thing. The story, which is true, is not abou love; it is about a pedophile who prays on a 12-year-old child, who knew nothing about life yet. I am a gay man, but was horrified by the scene where an adult rapes the little boy. At least, in the movie, the words spoken by the soldier are those of a pedophile.
I don't think that's unrequited love. Walt loved Jeroen, but at that time he could do nearly nothing. The movie (as well as the story) doesn't have a happy ending. However, what love brought to Jeroen is hope, belief, strength to live.
All of the reviews I read say that Walt abused Jeroen and damaged him. I disagree completely, they both loved each other, of course Jeroens face was scrunched up during sex, I do that to it doesn't mean I'm not enjoying it. The only thing that would of damaged Jeroen was when Walt left. Was a very good movie, but sad =[
@antonio01lima Have you ever had sex? In the first few seconds it sometimes hurts really badly when the penis first enters and then a few seconds later it is great pleasure, also in heat of the moment I scrunch my face up, eyeroll etc. Look at the film after sex he got up and looked around the room and stole a picture of him, oh yes he was so angry and sad after the sex and hated Walt so much that he stole a picture of him to remember him foreve
i found this clip to be so adorable. it shows that you really can find love in the strangest places. some people argue about what age a kid should be in order for their decisions to be considered, this is a prime example of a kid knowing the consequences of what they are doing. the boy weighted the outcome and possibilities of this happening and he chose to be happy, like most people would in this situation. the boy knew what he wanted and he went after it, regardless of wat any1 said we would 2
i watched this movie last night and it really did hit home for me. i could see the direction the film was headed although it never really got there. And i truly empathize with the younger character, the abandonment at the end was entirely heartbreaking but often a common thing that happens to many gay men in their youth, utterly morphing their life paths sometimes positively and negatively.
There's one thing that I keep thinking about, and it's rather concerning. So, I get that they're acting...but how the Hell did a director have an obviously-underage actor get all touch-y and kiss-y with an obviously-over-18 actor (Please draw your attention to 2:41). Please feel free to explain this to me, and even disagree...I just can't wrap my head around this.
Nemoblue11, I can't agree more. Life is about learning to love. Of course, love is difficult to define. St Paul tried to hard enough! By learning to love individuals we learn to love ourselves and to learn what love is. I think we should remember something about the haters. Hatred is hurt love. Hatred and love are not opposites. Indifference is the opposite of love. The haters are helping to give this film the attention it deserves!
You haters wouldn't know love if it bit you in the asses. Love takes all forms, that is its very nature. If the boy felt love, which he clearly does in the book then it is love. The end.
i'm not a judgemental person, but i have to admit that i have a little hard time grasping my head around this. not because it's to male people, but in my opinion, it is in all honesty pedophilia. but then again i know that it's based on a true story and it's good that they tell the story in a realistic manner instead of decorating the truth like they would've done if it was a hollywood-movie. good movie, just a very controversial theme.
.. I am SO disgusted. I'm gay, and I'm thoroughly disgusted by this. after the first bed scene together, I had to stop and comment. NAMBLA would LOVE this movie, it's sick, perverted and very pedophile in nature. It makes all homosexuals look bad. Child molestation ISN'T romantic. Sorry, I can't condone this.
@gabbyandjuju yeah but it was more on the lines of implied than shown. There is a scene where they are shirtless and the camera pans to the boys face and the man is telling him to bite down on his finger for the pain. I personally love this movie and dont think it was pedophilia but a movie about an unconventional love
@gabbyandjuju They do have sex. The story is told from the point of view of the boy after he is a grown adult, like "Tea and Sympathy." It is a movie that does make one rationally examine adolescent sexuality/emotional need. It shows the awakening of a displaced gay boy living in emotional isolation in war time. His sadness only comes when the soldier ships out with his regiment. Statutory rape laws protect children & help keep an ordered society, but hetero men find 13 year old girls hot.
HOLY SHIT YOU'RE A FUCKING SICKO IF YOU THINK THIS IS "LOVE".One is MAN and the other is just a BOY. This is sexual abuse, no matter how you looked at it
I would just like to make one comment, Paedeophillia is defined as sexual relations of any kind between a person that has reached puberty with another person that has not reached puberty, as classified by the DSM V.
So in saying that if the 13yr old boy depicted in this movie and also the book has reached puberty then it is not an issue of paedophillia.
It is clear by the comments that people have not read the novel. While I believe that there have been circumstances in which a relationship between an older man and a boy can be genuine, in this case, the movie glossed over the more grittier details. In the novel, Walt leaves without saying anything to Jeroen or his family, and there are more sex scenes, all of which imply that Jeroen was very uncomfortable, and at some points, was crying due to both fear and shame. But Jeroen did fall in love.
It a beautiful, memorable, and sad movie. The sadness comes from what might have been--and it stays with Jeroen though his entire life. Walt's love was genuine. I am convinced of that. He would have returned had it been possible. Remember, this was 1945--not 2010! Tom in Memphis.
Why can't you pedophiles and pedophillia-defending people get that its a MATURITY/CONSENT issue?? Kids just DON'T get the consequences that can come with sex. Kids being horny=/= Ready to have a sexual relationship. MANY people who (while very young) had sex with people older then them end up regretting it.
If the boy was 17 okay, sure probably understands what he's doing with this guy. BUT 13? HOLY SHIT YOU'RE A FUCKING SICKO IF YOU THINK THIS IS "love<3"
We can all debate the authenticity of such war-time relationships until the cows come home, but it does not subtract from the fact that society changes DRAMATICALLY when called to defend national stability by means of all out warfare. It is therefore imprudent to apply the standards of morality and legality today to a society that was disabled by international conflict so severe that it left millions dead in the process.
I'm having trouble keeping a straight face with the stupidity of most comments on this thread. The reality is that this was a wartime setting, and under most circumstances of this nature society is preoccupied with defending national interests to bother with matters of morality or principle. It was rather common during this time period for children and young adults to experience emotional/physical/sexual attachment from the war-torn soldiers around them. Women were not immune either.
lol all these comments show just how "progressive" society is with accepting everyone. imagine if you were 13 and you were a walking hormone and then a hot ass 18 year old chick came up to you and came on to you... its the SAME exact situation for gay guys and there is nothing wrong with that.
@Imaopdk since we are making heterosexual analogies, how about this one: you are a twenty something guy, you meet this 13 year old girl and you seduce and fuck her. does that still fall under the "nothing wrong" category?
You misunderstood. I did not say that I thought it was OK. I think certain kinds of gay sex is dangerous. If a preciouis child is gay and confused about ' sexuality and is fortunate enough to meet an older person who can explain what the parent or myself cannot explain and prevent that child from the often very unpleasant consequences of his/her sexuality which could include suicide, I thank THAT
is a good thing. I dont subscribe to the believe "to hell with him, he's gay".
dios mio que cosa tan fea deverian borrar esta pelicula de la historia.. oh my god tha movie is so ugly,,, why why why is just a kid omg ,,, you saw when the kid kiss the guy omg tha is pedofhilia and nothing more.
For those who said/think this is disgusting...well, read the original novel first! Or at least read the reviews about the book on Amazon or Goodreads! It might change your opinion. Honestly, it's one of my favorite novels of all time. It was written very well. No wonder the book costs a hundred bucks!
damn, this is sooo wrong, common people, at that age the kid could love a fucking cactus for gods sakes, this is just rape, the kid doesnt know what the hell is going on, the older dude did!
All I can say is that when I was 12 it was my fantasy to be with an older hot guy. Never happened though. I think this film is totally innocent and extremely touching.
I don't know the full story, but, yeah, seems disgusting enough, the boy is too young! it's so easy to fascinate a boy! I must run away from my friends kids, and I DO!
Dear funbadger,sure the boy loved his soldier,everybody of us have still great feelings for our "Pig-Malyon",and the latter had just sex with him (no kiss ever seen).Many years ago the word pedophily was a Greek way to say gay.
@melinasparta43 such idiocies are the kind of stuff which are really dangerous for the public image of gays! and, about, greece, different societies in different times had many different attitudes towards homosexuality. yeah, spartans where gay, but in classic athens pedophile was accepted and love between two adult men despised.
Anyway the difference has always been clear in all cultures.
I was sending a message to another person and came across my tirades about this video from a year ago. I actually saw the movie because I wanted to be objective. People were telling me that I didn't know what I was talking about. WRONG! THIS IS STILL FUCKED UP! GROSS! DISGUSTING!!!
The moment the soldier sets his eyes on the boy, he masterminds his plans to get him. I am a gay person, but the boy was a child; I cannot condone with that. The movie was so not about love and terderness, that the soldier left the boy without even saying good-bye. Absolutely ridiculous.
I am shocked to, how can anyone think that this is a case of two people in love,
this is a case of a young man giving a child lots of gifts and attention so that he can get him into bed, sure the boy thinks he is in-love, coz being only 12 he has nothing to relate it to.
what really scares me is the fact that people on here seem to think that all you have to do is convince a child that they are in love with you and its ok to have sex with them.
@cryabbywalker8 oh my god, don't you get it that's what pedophiles do, its called Grooming they pick out their victim and then they work on them, charming them paying them compliments giving them gifts getting them on their own.
im sure the boy felt like he was in love, even years later.
but did that soldier come back for him, even years later, no he moved on to another town and another lonely boy, this was a predator seeking out and nailing a victim
Forgetting about gender for a moment,how many of you out there, that have seen this movie believe that someone this age, 12 or 13 can really be in love with someone. Putting aside the moral dilemma,do you believe it's possible. With out a doubt I do. If you read Rudi van Dantzig's book, you'll no that some 40 years after his encounter with this soldier,he still has feelings for him. That's not my story or anyone else's, It's his. He loved him as a boy,he loved him as a man. Read the interviews
@DHPIERCCE Yes, I, too, believe it is possible for someone this age to be in love. I also do not think it necessary to be deeply in love with someone to enjoy a relationship, even a sexual relationship. People selling this book are demanding your first born as payment, hence I have not read it.
@HeintjeFans If the the book is difficult to come by, there's a great web site you can go to and learn a great deal about this author and his experiences. Its (levenlangtheater. Rudi Van Dantzig) Over the years he gave a number of interviews about his life and this book he wrote. There are also a number of photos of Rudi as a boy. One picture taken near the time he first met Walt. Dantzig was a world famous choreographer, a number of ballets that he created were based on his time with Walt
hello everyone. I realy hate pedo... Realy. Wen i saw this movie i first tink(befor see it) that was a fucking pedo movie. but this is REALY not the case. Its... I just can explain that. Its love story. I dont think most of pedo are like this soldier. Realy not. But believe me wen i tell you, its was not bad thing. Anyway. I'm so confuse after see this. Love is realy every where...
@EViLGUARD The soldier WAS a pedophile. He loved this boy and expressed his love SEXUALLY. You are confused because you have a mindset or a prejudice that is nor supported by this movie which is based on a true account. The disparity occurs because in this case the boy is himself homosexual and loves his soldier and according to the story is very upset when his lover must leave him. Whether it be heterosexual love or homosexual love, love is love. Personally I am straight. That boy needed help.
@ifuliki so you think the kid don't understand? Cause... Its all the question right? Anyway, i don't think killing a guy is okay, but i see it a lot in movie. I realy hate pedo story. But in this particular movie thats don't sound pedo to me. Maybe because its a movie. lol, hard to explain. i think wath i love the most is the True love of the young boy. Look like something many of us lost when we growup... Anyway :) Peace!
I was in shock while reading the comments, how can people say it's ok to have sex with a 12 years old just because he agreed!! These are men accommodating their own perception to believe such "love" is real and right. He's a child with a child mind, on the other hand, a soldier with an experienced predator with a sex oriented purposes. Those who say it's right say so in order to seek approval in some kind of related situation involving minors. If you wanna have sex, try with mentally mature men
@xhifbhiex The problem with your blanketed statement is this, my grandmother married in 1907. She was 13 her husband 28!!! they had 6 children together, she was at his bedside when he died. I agree that no one should seek out a relationship with a minor,but sometimes things happen that dont always fit whats normal. case in point; I think everybody remembers the teacher that went to jail for having sex with her 13yr old student. When she got out of jail they married. They have children together.
@DHPIERCCE Although that's a beautiful story, this is not 1907. Things were different back then, children worked and were treated like adults, there was racism, no women rights, etc. NOW children and women have basic rights and are under law protection. We are aware of which type of conducts are considered right and wrong. People saying it's correct to have sex with kids shall be seen as potential predators. Children trust older people and their mind doesn't work the same way a 30 years old do
@xhifbhiex You and I agree on one thing, sex with a minor is not a good idea under any circumstance, what I dont agree with, is that I do believe someone that age can experience love. Sexual attraction...love can come at 12, 13 or 14 and remain. I think the most famous case being; Pricilla presley, she met Elvis at 14 and she fell in love with him. Elvis was 25. I recently saw Pricilla on Larry king, she said she still love's him. I believe what disturbs people so much about this movie is gender
@DHPIERCCE Well, some experience "something" but it's always mere acrush, attraction, obsession, of good feelings not real love. Like here, the soldier's just looking for a child to have sex during the campaign. But Jerome has mixed feelings, he sees a paternal figure in the guy, a friend, someone else that makes him feel loved, gives him emotion, he's not in the appropriate circumstances to call it love. If there were no war, he had lots of friends, loving family, thing would be different.
@xhifbhiex I disagree,what you label a mere crush,attraction,obsession,lasted a life time.The book was written in 1986.You say if there were no war,he had friends,family etc.things would be different.Walt arrived as a liberator,the germans had fled the city.Heit was a loving and even tender father figure.Jan,his long time friend,and Henk a surrogate brother.Jeroen was attracted to walt.Do you remember the dance? Next day Jeroen had a fantasy about dancing with Walt,they hadn't even spoken yet.
@xhifbhiex Thats funny, I'm glad you have a sence of humor,but I don't think walt loved anybody but himself.He's an asshole that went after Jeroen. Jeroen is the one who thought there was more to it. Hey, everybody has an opinion, that's what makes the world go round.
@DHPIERCCE You're right, but was i was saying is that many men try to convince other and themselves that little children are in love with them to justify their actions as right but for them is the fantasy to do it with a little boy. But for kids, the first love is always the most confusing one, it might be real, it might be not, who am i to say it's not.
@xhifbhiex Thats true, thats exactly what they do. I have 4 sons, no girls. The thought of any of my sons at that age having sex with somebody in their 20s....male or female...I'd be furious to say the least. I just feel that Jeroen/rudi got screwed figuratively and literally. How he went on to do the things he did, is really a testament to his character.I saw your the same age as one my sons. Your very articulate and express your opinions clearly. Good luck in what ever you DO!!
I've seen this movie. I had no idea what it was about.....it was a random pick. However some of u want to try to articulate it or condone it, it is WRONG. The boy was just that......a BOY. At his age he knows nothing of love....especially of love with a MAN......and equally of love with someone so much older. Get a grip. This movie was well made but the substance of the story is WRONG on so many levels. Overwhelming majority will agree.
@maccanaut: I don't think it is your place to judge. Of course children of that age fall on love, can already know they are gay (even much earlier). Sure it's a way to protect kids to pretend they don't fall on love or have sexual desires but heh, I only need to think of the millions of explicted gay fanfiction written by girls and women to know that this is nonsense. Nothing is black and white, there's lots of grey inbetween. Such a high legal age is a pretty new developement anyway.
@MsHyde1 laws are made for the majority. To reflect the views of the majority. The majority of peoples views are aligned with mine. It is repugnant to consider a child is capable of making the decision to have a sexual relationship with someone much older than themselves, when they have barely passed puberty. You may hold ur self serving opinions but try persuading the rest of western and most other cultures that ur opinion is right.
@MsHyde1 Children arent allowed to vote, drink, drive, smoke, get tattoos etc etc. Most children grow up thankful of their parents intervention where deemed fit. This is because they look back and realise that decisions they were on the verge of making when younger were not educated decisions. The same applies in any decision to have a relationship or to have sex. Adults are persuasive and looked up to. You favour exploitation of that power over children. Shame on you.
@maccanaut: Er, no, I don't. That's why I wrote it is a way to protect kids. But applying this to every idividual is ridiculous. That's way there is tons of grey inbetween and millions of millions of children, lets face it, having sexual relations to people who are by definition of the law, adults. I am all, very much, for legal age and certain borders because just cos some kids are mature enough others are not and need to be protected.
@maccanaut: But you should keep in mind there are enough who can deal with it very well and in that case, especially if it is some age gap like, say, a 14-year old and a 19-year old or just some doctor play that pretty much everyone does (and hey, children masturbate, children have sexual thoughts and don't pretend you don't know it from your own experience) it is some sort of don't ask don't tell. The current laws (I can only judge Germany) are fine but don't bash kids who are mature enough.
@MsHyde1 Since the whole debate has been raised in response to the movie, we'll use this as an example. The soldier and the boy are not that far apart in years. However, the gap in life experience between them is huge and the boy is a mere child. He cannot be clear in his view of what he really wants. If he 'experiments' within his own age group then sure.....its acceptable to a lot of people. This is because BOTH would be EQUAL in their inexperience, and not manipulative by nature.
@ifuliki that may be so. But he had an entitlement to his childhood without manipulative measures taken by a much older male that had intended right from the beginning to seduce him. Children are easily persuaded by adults and place a large amount of trust in them. Being gay is irrelevant. He was a child and the soldier was an adult. The rest of the world cant be wrong and the people here are right for gods sakes.
@maccanaut: As for the movie, I've always been in two minds about it. But well, I don't think you are entitled to judge on the author's feelings and if it was right or wrong for him. To me it's a bit creepy, simply because the topic is usually taboo and not spoken about or shown in movies but I guess I've got to respect the personal experience of a person in that matter.
@MsHyde1 The kid was exploited. Exploited by someone who was old enough to know what he was doing when the kid was not so sure, but thinking its ok because an adult was encouraging and persuasive.
Enough said. Cant be bothered banging on about what i know almost everyone agrees with. Bye
@maccanaut: Yeah, yadda yadda, just tell the person who actually was that boy and experienced this how he felt about it and how mature he was. *rolls eyes* As if you knew..
@MsHyde1The boy was fortnate to discover his sexuality was not something that he alone experienced. Also he was forunate enough to meet someone whom he could love and who loved him even though it was due to the exigencies of war a brief encounter. Read the book; it is a true story.
Esta película es esencial para todos aquellos que consideran que la pedofilia necesita ser revisada. No toda la pedofilia es agresión, de la misma forma que no toda relacción sexual entre adultos es violación.
Beyond the technical, the most important is the story. It is a window to the feelings of two people whose sexual preferences, has been quite stigmatized, a way to see with new eyes, more human, the life of these characters. It is another aspect of pedophilia has been so wrongly linked to sexual abuse. A supporting argument for this film is the fact that it actually happened and who is also narrated by jeroen, it is still a child in the story.
This film is essential for those who believe that pedophilia need to be revised. Not all pedophilia is aggression, just as not all relatives of sex between adults is rape.
And lastly, Walt's reaction to the film being exposed,he was clearly upset.The film hidden in his riffle.Walt wanted his own memories of there time together.Futher proof that Jeroen had come to mean somthing to Walt,instead of a last night sexual encounter, he just talks to Jeroen. When he walked Jeroen home that night, Heit comes out,Jeroen goes to the door takes one last look at Walt not knowing its his last Walt manages a smile,tries to tell Heit hes le
Rudi Van Dantzig, pictured by the young boy in this movie died on January 19, 2012.
After all life of waiting, he met his soldier.
replyboys 9 hours ago 3
Funbadger, you ask fair and profound questions. We don't know whether the soldier ditched the boy or if he was killed. Striking for me, is that in these stories it is usually the child that loses interest because they are rapidly changing.
adamjohnable2 1 day ago
OMG this is so sad :'( Where can I watch the full movie for free? :(
MrsFreakyMars 4 days ago
WOAH!! Paedo kiss scene on screen! (quite lingering too.) That soldier was wrong to lead that boy on like that.
allaboutdmagic 1 week ago
Pedophile movie for insane people.
Teraiefa 2 weeks ago
the book is great..i have it online if anyone wants it totally free. i wanna spead the joy in honor of his death
XOshelly84 3 weeks ago
I finished watching this movie ten minutes ago and I'm still crying, the movie impacted me deeply and it has left me speechless.
Levietus 1 month ago
Rudi Van Dantzig, who wrote the book on which this film is based, unfortunately passed away today at the age of 78.
thomasantw 1 month ago
@thomasantw He's death a January 19 2012
MrSheizen 1 month ago
Its on netflix guys
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davidls11 1 month ago
@Devilboy666de No, it's a beautiful coming-of-age love story set near the end of WWII.
davidls11 1 month ago
Sorry for my poor english.But for all ignorants who wrote hate- comments here may be repeated: The film bases on the autobiographical novel by the Dutch author Rudi van Dantzig,*1933, who in his main profession was one of the most important choreographers of the late 20th century. Surely this relationship had it's dark sides,as any relationship,but he confesses to his early experience of love.In his artistical work van Dantzig also thematized homosexuality and the social repression against it.
vonki2011 2 months ago 3
The 1st time I got to kow about this film my immediate reaction was WTF!I dont give a damn how some reviews say how aestically such a sensitive issue was trated to me it was plain revolting and disgusting. Pedophilia is not beautiful it is warped/twisted/perverted and pedophiles deserve to be sent to Broadmoor lunatic asylum for treatment. I have nothing against gays infact some of my friends are gay films like Brokeback Mountain, are my all time favourites but pedophilia should not be promoted
sweetalison007 5 months ago
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Where can you watch this movie for free?
FritoLays1236 6 months ago
the movie is absolutely beautiful, its about a boy discovering love in a time when that kind of love could get you killed. and to the people calling out faggots and sickos thoes that mean you hate LOLITA too, and toes that mean you never look at those 15yo girls walking around like tramps. you all do so shut the fuck up
ninafan1 7 months ago
I haven´t read the book and haven´t seen the movie. I am gay and I didn´t like what I saw in this clip. The soldier was a pedophile. I keep asking myself how could anyone let that child play a role like that in the movie. Does he have any responsible parents ??!!!
carambaleba 7 months ago
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@carambaleba Don't play to be that innocent, my friend. I'm 46 and my little friend is only 12. First, I had to fight his father's mind and then his mother's and everybody around us. Today, the both of us live in paradise. You don't relly know how strong, pure and beautiful can be a love born at the same time in two hearts. Besides, he is who drives our relationship (believe it or not). Pedophile love is a two ways situation. And nobody else care, but the two involved. Thanks for your attention.
tiozorro1 6 months ago
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davidls11 7 months ago
where can i watchthis movie??
leonoel08leonoel 7 months ago
gay pedo shit
tech4156 7 months ago
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Littlelionman1989 7 months ago
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Littlelionman1989 7 months ago
@Littlelionman1989 - Actually, I reacted the same when I heard about the film "Lolita." But it's fairly typical for a faggot to defend paedophilia. It's part of the pervert psychology. And you know fine well that people don't only reach a video because they sought it out. Look to your right... That's called the related video section and it's how most people navigate this website. Unless of course you're a sick pervert who actively seeks videos that makes pedophilia look romantic (like yourself).
leecfb000 7 months ago 2
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Littlelionman1989 7 months ago
@Littlelionman1989 - Pedophilia is inherent to any thrill-seeking pervert. Gay people are obviously thrill-seekers and thrill-seekers don't have any moral restrictions or self-control. They are immoral and undiscriminating sexual opportunists constantly requiring disturbing stimuli to get off. They perceive shock as pleasurable so are attracted to any behavior that produces feelings of shock (such as gay sex or child rape). Orientation is a myth. There are perverts and non-perverts.
leecfb000 7 months ago
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Littlelionman1989 7 months ago
@Littlelionman1989 - great comeback
leecfb000 7 months ago 2
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Littlelionman1989 7 months ago
@Littlelionman1989 - I like how a pedo is telling me I have fucked up views. Funny world we live in.
leecfb000 7 months ago
@leecfb000 gay does not equal pedo :)...do no how many times I have to say that before it goes through your dense skull
Littlelionman1989 7 months ago
@Littlelionman1989 - Keep telling yourself that.
leecfb000 7 months ago 2
@leecfb000 GTFO
FritoLays1236 6 months ago
@FritoLays1236 - Am I really so intimidating that you can only send me a generic abbreviation? Or are you afraid you'll look your stupid if you express an opinion?
leecfb000 6 months ago 3
@leecfb000 No that is all I had to say XD
FritoLays1236 6 months ago
@leecfb000 I'm riding an unicorn, your argument is invalid. I'm sorry, it's not that simple.
ILikeMilk09 6 months ago
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i saw this movie on Netflix>>Watch Instantly>>Gay & Lesbian section. in my opinion it's one of the most beautiful movies i've ever seen. it reminded me when i was twelve discovering my sexual orientation and wanting a hot steamy Canadian soldier with dreamy eyes. teehee :D i'm jealous of Jueron
TheScourgeable 8 months ago
lo recuerdo cada día hoy por cosas de la vida estamos separados por lo que decidí a que sea mayor de edad...... algunas veces me escribe y me dice cosas increíbles.... sufrimos ambos por la espera se que me ama y yo lo amo es sorprendente como somos el uno para el otro a pesar de la diferencia de edad...te quiero pequeño y no hay día que no llore por ti soy como un fantasma sin corazón y sin vida..........hermosa película véanla con mente abierta
efebos1 9 months ago
@efebos1 aw.
hollymoon21 8 months ago in playlist for a lost soldier
realmente es una historia que va mas aya, trasciende las fronteras de amor ...sin maldad , es la expresión del amor puro que trasciende los limites humanos...si si es posible que se enamore un muchacho de 12 años de uno de 20 ..a mi me ocurrió algo semejante con un chico de 12 años y a pesar de los años aun lo llevo y lo tengo en mi corazón.... simplemente el niño me enamoro y transformo toda mi vida y rompió todos mis esquemas morales nunca he sentido ni sentiré un amor tan fuerte......
efebos1 9 months ago
whats the title of this movie?
alicegabrielle007 9 months ago
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davidls11 7 months ago
God, this movie was so beautiful. I just watched it for the first time today. I can't even get it out of my mind, it was soooooo amazing! Just beautiful. I cannot stop talking about it. I am gunna make all of my friends watch it. So beautiful! Is this a true story??? And is the book even better???
DaveyH75 9 months ago
i'm still crying while i'm reading what you've written... it was a great but deeply sad story, and made me think of many reasons about the situation like why didn't he bid a farewell or why didn't he came back... after all i still want to believe that it was a love story, though my mind is full of things i wanna say for, "for a lost soldier"... even the title forces my tears to flow whenever i remember it.
moriasophe 9 months ago
for whom is it the bad dream? for beeing a young boy, just insurred, maybe in love, but abused by an older men or what? this video realy touched me deeply, the boy is alway laughing... but, ok, the song is awesome, realy.
fedro2709 9 months ago
i F'n love this movie. I need to get it on dvd. I was that boy growing up. Though sadly, never a soldier came to rescue me from suburban misery. Not even a priest, go figure.
okiva77 10 months ago 2
It's a beautiful song. Great lyrics. The mandolin and piano are spectacular. It's perfect with the video clips. Thanks for posting and for your great effort.
rodentom 10 months ago
I think the soldier in the movie did prey on Jeroen. At the same time, I don't think that takes away from the love Jeroen felt for him.
cooolness3 10 months ago
As gay man who pursued a relationship with an adult when I was eleven, I have to say this movie did not seem like a love story. The soldier was a predator, albeit an attractive one.
DeadlyStrain 10 months ago
juz watching this 5-min vid made me wanna cry!!! gosh
vistimin 10 months ago
@Antonia, I think like everyone else you see what you want to see.
@Alex. Your "humble opinion" doesn't sound very humble to me.
adamjohnable 10 months ago
I received my DVD, which I bough recently, only on Arpil 10th, 2011. Eagerly I ran to the DVD player to watch it. However, I was absolutely disappointed by the whole thing. The story, which is true, is not abou love; it is about a pedophile who prays on a 12-year-old child, who knew nothing about life yet. I am a gay man, but was horrified by the scene where an adult rapes the little boy. At least, in the movie, the words spoken by the soldier are those of a pedophile.
antonio01lima 10 months ago
I don't think that's unrequited love. Walt loved Jeroen, but at that time he could do nearly nothing. The movie (as well as the story) doesn't have a happy ending. However, what love brought to Jeroen is hope, belief, strength to live.
oct71952 11 months ago
I just saw this movie on netflix and it was weird! Im not hatin but its a little boy!!! In my humble opinion thts wrong
alexjacoboramos 11 months ago 2
@alexjacoboramos ... I totally agree. By the way, I am a gay man.
antonio01lima 10 months ago
All of the reviews I read say that Walt abused Jeroen and damaged him. I disagree completely, they both loved each other, of course Jeroens face was scrunched up during sex, I do that to it doesn't mean I'm not enjoying it. The only thing that would of damaged Jeroen was when Walt left. Was a very good movie, but sad =[
WhatsYD 11 months ago 2
@WhatsYD ...scrunched up during sex when there's only pain and not pleasure. When a person is being raped he or she acts like that.
antonio01lima 10 months ago
@antonio01lima Have you ever had sex? In the first few seconds it sometimes hurts really badly when the penis first enters and then a few seconds later it is great pleasure, also in heat of the moment I scrunch my face up, eyeroll etc. Look at the film after sex he got up and looked around the room and stole a picture of him, oh yes he was so angry and sad after the sex and hated Walt so much that he stole a picture of him to remember him foreve
WhatsYD 10 months ago
i found this clip to be so adorable. it shows that you really can find love in the strangest places. some people argue about what age a kid should be in order for their decisions to be considered, this is a prime example of a kid knowing the consequences of what they are doing. the boy weighted the outcome and possibilities of this happening and he chose to be happy, like most people would in this situation. the boy knew what he wanted and he went after it, regardless of wat any1 said we would 2
mizzygirl6473 1 year ago
There are subtitles for this movie in several EU languages but unfortunately very badly translated.
txikilin 1 year ago
i watched this movie last night and it really did hit home for me. i could see the direction the film was headed although it never really got there. And i truly empathize with the younger character, the abandonment at the end was entirely heartbreaking but often a common thing that happens to many gay men in their youth, utterly morphing their life paths sometimes positively and negatively.
betterworkz 1 year ago 2
@betterworkz
Hi betterworkz,
How i can watch this movie? I want to watch it badly :(
801014 11 months ago
It is because the boy would have had empathy for the character he was playing. Good actors have empathy for their characters.
adamjohnable 1 year ago
There's one thing that I keep thinking about, and it's rather concerning. So, I get that they're acting...but how the Hell did a director have an obviously-underage actor get all touch-y and kiss-y with an obviously-over-18 actor (Please draw your attention to 2:41). Please feel free to explain this to me, and even disagree...I just can't wrap my head around this.
quattroporte534 1 year ago
i love..
i like the movie..
86eone 1 year ago
Nemoblue11, I can't agree more. Life is about learning to love. Of course, love is difficult to define. St Paul tried to hard enough! By learning to love individuals we learn to love ourselves and to learn what love is. I think we should remember something about the haters. Hatred is hurt love. Hatred and love are not opposites. Indifference is the opposite of love. The haters are helping to give this film the attention it deserves!
adamjohnable 1 year ago 2
You haters wouldn't know love if it bit you in the asses. Love takes all forms, that is its very nature. If the boy felt love, which he clearly does in the book then it is love. The end.
nemoblue11 1 year ago 17
i'm not a judgemental person, but i have to admit that i have a little hard time grasping my head around this. not because it's to male people, but in my opinion, it is in all honesty pedophilia. but then again i know that it's based on a true story and it's good that they tell the story in a realistic manner instead of decorating the truth like they would've done if it was a hollywood-movie. good movie, just a very controversial theme.
bfold11 1 year ago
.. I am SO disgusted. I'm gay, and I'm thoroughly disgusted by this. after the first bed scene together, I had to stop and comment. NAMBLA would LOVE this movie, it's sick, perverted and very pedophile in nature. It makes all homosexuals look bad. Child molestation ISN'T romantic. Sorry, I can't condone this.
GenderlessLeeStone 1 year ago
wait so did the soldier actually abuse the boy?? and did they ever have sex?? not forcefully but like "in the moment" kinda thing?
gabbyandjuju 1 year ago
@gabbyandjuju yeah but it was more on the lines of implied than shown. There is a scene where they are shirtless and the camera pans to the boys face and the man is telling him to bite down on his finger for the pain. I personally love this movie and dont think it was pedophilia but a movie about an unconventional love
BrighterThanYours 1 year ago 2
@gabbyandjuju They do have sex. The story is told from the point of view of the boy after he is a grown adult, like "Tea and Sympathy." It is a movie that does make one rationally examine adolescent sexuality/emotional need. It shows the awakening of a displaced gay boy living in emotional isolation in war time. His sadness only comes when the soldier ships out with his regiment. Statutory rape laws protect children & help keep an ordered society, but hetero men find 13 year old girls hot.
mmmrazor 1 year ago
HOLY SHIT YOU'RE A FUCKING SICKO IF YOU THINK THIS IS "LOVE".One is MAN and the other is just a BOY. This is sexual abuse, no matter how you looked at it
nicodssa 1 year ago
Great movie!
skywolf8113 1 year ago
I love this movie! <3 :D
Olebrucanism 1 year ago
Where can I buy the Novel????
escuderozepeda 1 year ago
I would just like to make one comment, Paedeophillia is defined as sexual relations of any kind between a person that has reached puberty with another person that has not reached puberty, as classified by the DSM V.
So in saying that if the 13yr old boy depicted in this movie and also the book has reached puberty then it is not an issue of paedophillia.
bwil3314 1 year ago
I want to read the book but its almost impossible to find it. If anyone has it and wants to let me borrow it I would appreciate it :(
GiovanniSodi 1 year ago 2
It is clear by the comments that people have not read the novel. While I believe that there have been circumstances in which a relationship between an older man and a boy can be genuine, in this case, the movie glossed over the more grittier details. In the novel, Walt leaves without saying anything to Jeroen or his family, and there are more sex scenes, all of which imply that Jeroen was very uncomfortable, and at some points, was crying due to both fear and shame. But Jeroen did fall in love.
genesis199125 1 year ago
all people, who tought, a 13 yo boy dont think on sexuality and dont need sex ... I SAY YOU , THESE BOYS THE WHOLE DAY think about sex !!!
And all which arent believe that are dumb idiots or dumb church idiots !
TEBOYLO 1 year ago 3
It a beautiful, memorable, and sad movie. The sadness comes from what might have been--and it stays with Jeroen though his entire life. Walt's love was genuine. I am convinced of that. He would have returned had it been possible. Remember, this was 1945--not 2010! Tom in Memphis.
rodentom 1 year ago 2
Why can't you pedophiles and pedophillia-defending people get that its a MATURITY/CONSENT issue?? Kids just DON'T get the consequences that can come with sex. Kids being horny=/= Ready to have a sexual relationship. MANY people who (while very young) had sex with people older then them end up regretting it.
If the boy was 17 okay, sure probably understands what he's doing with this guy. BUT 13? HOLY SHIT YOU'RE A FUCKING SICKO IF YOU THINK THIS IS "love<3"
TheRowdyTiger 1 year ago
We can all debate the authenticity of such war-time relationships until the cows come home, but it does not subtract from the fact that society changes DRAMATICALLY when called to defend national stability by means of all out warfare. It is therefore imprudent to apply the standards of morality and legality today to a society that was disabled by international conflict so severe that it left millions dead in the process.
usaboy17 1 year ago
I'm having trouble keeping a straight face with the stupidity of most comments on this thread. The reality is that this was a wartime setting, and under most circumstances of this nature society is preoccupied with defending national interests to bother with matters of morality or principle. It was rather common during this time period for children and young adults to experience emotional/physical/sexual attachment from the war-torn soldiers around them. Women were not immune either.
usaboy17 1 year ago
is the book titled the same ???
notnormalbuzz 1 year ago
lol all these comments show just how "progressive" society is with accepting everyone. imagine if you were 13 and you were a walking hormone and then a hot ass 18 year old chick came up to you and came on to you... its the SAME exact situation for gay guys and there is nothing wrong with that.
Imaopdk 1 year ago 34
@Imaopdk It would still be illegal.
quattroporte534 1 year ago
@Imaopdk don't reduce it to the hormones or just to 6 its more than that, but your laughter make me think, its too easy for your, so cheer:)
fedro2709 9 months ago
@Imaopdk Amen and well said.
3investigators 9 months ago
@Imaopdk since we are making heterosexual analogies, how about this one: you are a twenty something guy, you meet this 13 year old girl and you seduce and fuck her. does that still fall under the "nothing wrong" category?
Xlomid 7 months ago
leecfb000
You misunderstood. I did not say that I thought it was OK. I think certain kinds of gay sex is dangerous. If a preciouis child is gay and confused about ' sexuality and is fortunate enough to meet an older person who can explain what the parent or myself cannot explain and prevent that child from the often very unpleasant consequences of his/her sexuality which could include suicide, I thank THAT
is a good thing. I dont subscribe to the believe "to hell with him, he's gay".
Aled
ifuliki 1 year ago
QUE ASCO!
GirlTaekwondoITF 1 year ago
dios mio que cosa tan fea deverian borrar esta pelicula de la historia.. oh my god tha movie is so ugly,,, why why why is just a kid omg ,,, you saw when the kid kiss the guy omg tha is pedofhilia and nothing more.
GirlTaekwondoITF 1 year ago
What is the book called? the same as the film? :)
teiganparker 1 year ago
For those who said/think this is disgusting...well, read the original novel first! Or at least read the reviews about the book on Amazon or Goodreads! It might change your opinion. Honestly, it's one of my favorite novels of all time. It was written very well. No wonder the book costs a hundred bucks!
reasonableskeptic 1 year ago
@weaverofpallas goddammit kid where the fuck are your parents??
boxanova66 1 year ago
@weaverofpallas than kid, in the name of normal people, THIS IS NOT NORMAL NOR RIGHT...find someone closer to ur age
boxanova66 1 year ago
@weaverofpallas obviously you are a pedophile or into kiddy porn, maybe you are just in denial, read the book, the kid was raped...
boxanova66 1 year ago
@weaverofpallas This is pedaphilia. Why are you defending it?
Elaiyel 1 year ago
damn, this is sooo wrong, common people, at that age the kid could love a fucking cactus for gods sakes, this is just rape, the kid doesnt know what the hell is going on, the older dude did!
boxanova66 1 year ago
All I can say is that when I was 12 it was my fantasy to be with an older hot guy. Never happened though. I think this film is totally innocent and extremely touching.
Izzymon81 1 year ago
I don't know the full story, but, yeah, seems disgusting enough, the boy is too young! it's so easy to fascinate a boy! I must run away from my friends kids, and I DO!
vaxiawval 1 year ago
Dear funbadger,sure the boy loved his soldier,everybody of us have still great feelings for our "Pig-Malyon",and the latter had just sex with him (no kiss ever seen).Many years ago the word pedophily was a Greek way to say gay.
melinasparta43 1 year ago
@melinasparta43 such idiocies are the kind of stuff which are really dangerous for the public image of gays! and, about, greece, different societies in different times had many different attitudes towards homosexuality. yeah, spartans where gay, but in classic athens pedophile was accepted and love between two adult men despised.
Anyway the difference has always been clear in all cultures.
vaxiawval 1 year ago
I was sending a message to another person and came across my tirades about this video from a year ago. I actually saw the movie because I wanted to be objective. People were telling me that I didn't know what I was talking about. WRONG! THIS IS STILL FUCKED UP! GROSS! DISGUSTING!!!
Bearnecked 1 year ago
quisas si no uviese sido tan pequeño uviese sido una lidna historia pero es muy chico es un muy niño para el. se ve mal
mjara20 1 year ago
THIS IS WRONG IN SO MANY LEVELS ITS LIKE WATCHING KID PORN JUST SICK!
0patito0 1 year ago
If you want to buy this DVD, come visit TLAgay.com where it’s always on sale. :D
djoscarwilde 1 year ago 5
The moment the soldier sets his eyes on the boy, he masterminds his plans to get him. I am a gay person, but the boy was a child; I cannot condone with that. The movie was so not about love and terderness, that the soldier left the boy without even saying good-bye. Absolutely ridiculous.
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maybewedidntexistyet 1 year ago
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maybewedidntexistyet 1 year ago
This. Shit. Is. Disgusting. *Goes to watch it* Lmfao.
idruski 1 year ago 2
how sad..
nymphtorah 1 year ago
I am shocked to, how can anyone think that this is a case of two people in love,
this is a case of a young man giving a child lots of gifts and attention so that he can get him into bed, sure the boy thinks he is in-love, coz being only 12 he has nothing to relate it to.
what really scares me is the fact that people on here seem to think that all you have to do is convince a child that they are in love with you and its ok to have sex with them.
well its not its wrong,
tingod99 1 year ago
@tingod99 well the boy never falls out of love with the army guy. if you see the movie you would now.
cryabbywalker8 1 year ago
@cryabbywalker8 oh my god, don't you get it that's what pedophiles do, its called Grooming they pick out their victim and then they work on them, charming them paying them compliments giving them gifts getting them on their own.
im sure the boy felt like he was in love, even years later.
but did that soldier come back for him, even years later, no he moved on to another town and another lonely boy, this was a predator seeking out and nailing a victim
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DHPIERCCE 1 year ago
Forgetting about gender for a moment,how many of you out there, that have seen this movie believe that someone this age, 12 or 13 can really be in love with someone. Putting aside the moral dilemma,do you believe it's possible. With out a doubt I do. If you read Rudi van Dantzig's book, you'll no that some 40 years after his encounter with this soldier,he still has feelings for him. That's not my story or anyone else's, It's his. He loved him as a boy,he loved him as a man. Read the interviews
DHPIERCCE 1 year ago
@DHPIERCCE Yes, I, too, believe it is possible for someone this age to be in love. I also do not think it necessary to be deeply in love with someone to enjoy a relationship, even a sexual relationship. People selling this book are demanding your first born as payment, hence I have not read it.
HeintjeFans 1 year ago
@HeintjeFans If the the book is difficult to come by, there's a great web site you can go to and learn a great deal about this author and his experiences. Its (levenlangtheater. Rudi Van Dantzig) Over the years he gave a number of interviews about his life and this book he wrote. There are also a number of photos of Rudi as a boy. One picture taken near the time he first met Walt. Dantzig was a world famous choreographer, a number of ballets that he created were based on his time with Walt
DHPIERCCE 1 year ago
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@DHPIERCCE Thanks for the information. I checked that site and Rudi looked even younger in 1944 than Jeroen did in the film. Interesting.
HeintjeFans 1 year ago
hello everyone. I realy hate pedo... Realy. Wen i saw this movie i first tink(befor see it) that was a fucking pedo movie. but this is REALY not the case. Its... I just can explain that. Its love story. I dont think most of pedo are like this soldier. Realy not. But believe me wen i tell you, its was not bad thing. Anyway. I'm so confuse after see this. Love is realy every where...
EViLGUARD 1 year ago
@EViLGUARD The soldier WAS a pedophile. He loved this boy and expressed his love SEXUALLY. You are confused because you have a mindset or a prejudice that is nor supported by this movie which is based on a true account. The disparity occurs because in this case the boy is himself homosexual and loves his soldier and according to the story is very upset when his lover must leave him. Whether it be heterosexual love or homosexual love, love is love. Personally I am straight. That boy needed help.
ifuliki 1 year ago
@ifuliki so you think the kid don't understand? Cause... Its all the question right? Anyway, i don't think killing a guy is okay, but i see it a lot in movie. I realy hate pedo story. But in this particular movie thats don't sound pedo to me. Maybe because its a movie. lol, hard to explain. i think wath i love the most is the True love of the young boy. Look like something many of us lost when we growup... Anyway :) Peace!
EViLGUARD 1 year ago
Well its not wrong to love,but you don't have sex with a child this guy is so wrong in so many ways.
Twirly60 1 year ago
I was in shock while reading the comments, how can people say it's ok to have sex with a 12 years old just because he agreed!! These are men accommodating their own perception to believe such "love" is real and right. He's a child with a child mind, on the other hand, a soldier with an experienced predator with a sex oriented purposes. Those who say it's right say so in order to seek approval in some kind of related situation involving minors. If you wanna have sex, try with mentally mature men
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DHPIERCCE 1 year ago
@xhifbhiex The problem with your blanketed statement is this, my grandmother married in 1907. She was 13 her husband 28!!! they had 6 children together, she was at his bedside when he died. I agree that no one should seek out a relationship with a minor,but sometimes things happen that dont always fit whats normal. case in point; I think everybody remembers the teacher that went to jail for having sex with her 13yr old student. When she got out of jail they married. They have children together.
DHPIERCCE 1 year ago
@DHPIERCCE Although that's a beautiful story, this is not 1907. Things were different back then, children worked and were treated like adults, there was racism, no women rights, etc. NOW children and women have basic rights and are under law protection. We are aware of which type of conducts are considered right and wrong. People saying it's correct to have sex with kids shall be seen as potential predators. Children trust older people and their mind doesn't work the same way a 30 years old do
xhifbhiex 1 year ago
@xhifbhiex You and I agree on one thing, sex with a minor is not a good idea under any circumstance, what I dont agree with, is that I do believe someone that age can experience love. Sexual attraction...love can come at 12, 13 or 14 and remain. I think the most famous case being; Pricilla presley, she met Elvis at 14 and she fell in love with him. Elvis was 25. I recently saw Pricilla on Larry king, she said she still love's him. I believe what disturbs people so much about this movie is gender
DHPIERCCE 1 year ago
@DHPIERCCE Well, some experience "something" but it's always mere acrush, attraction, obsession, of good feelings not real love. Like here, the soldier's just looking for a child to have sex during the campaign. But Jerome has mixed feelings, he sees a paternal figure in the guy, a friend, someone else that makes him feel loved, gives him emotion, he's not in the appropriate circumstances to call it love. If there were no war, he had lots of friends, loving family, thing would be different.
xhifbhiex 1 year ago
@xhifbhiex I disagree,what you label a mere crush,attraction,obsession,lasted a life time.The book was written in 1986.You say if there were no war,he had friends,family etc.things would be different.Walt arrived as a liberator,the germans had fled the city.Heit was a loving and even tender father figure.Jan,his long time friend,and Henk a surrogate brother.Jeroen was attracted to walt.Do you remember the dance? Next day Jeroen had a fantasy about dancing with Walt,they hadn't even spoken yet.
DHPIERCCE 1 year ago
@DHPIERCCE Yes yes I see my mistake now, you were right they were in love
xhifbhiex 1 year ago
@xhifbhiex Thats funny, I'm glad you have a sence of humor,but I don't think walt loved anybody but himself.He's an asshole that went after Jeroen. Jeroen is the one who thought there was more to it. Hey, everybody has an opinion, that's what makes the world go round.
DHPIERCCE 1 year ago
@DHPIERCCE You're right, but was i was saying is that many men try to convince other and themselves that little children are in love with them to justify their actions as right but for them is the fantasy to do it with a little boy. But for kids, the first love is always the most confusing one, it might be real, it might be not, who am i to say it's not.
xhifbhiex 1 year ago
@xhifbhiex Thats true, thats exactly what they do. I have 4 sons, no girls. The thought of any of my sons at that age having sex with somebody in their 20s....male or female...I'd be furious to say the least. I just feel that Jeroen/rudi got screwed figuratively and literally. How he went on to do the things he did, is really a testament to his character.I saw your the same age as one my sons. Your very articulate and express your opinions clearly. Good luck in what ever you DO!!
DHPIERCCE 1 year ago
@DHPIERCCE Thank you thank you, but what i don't understand is... how did you end up watching a video like this in the first place? just curious
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DHPIERCCE 1 year ago
@xhifbhiex Well all that sounds very good to me, wish you luck for your book :)
xhifbhiex 1 year ago
guys they both loved each other regardless of age
frankduke2 1 year ago
I've seen this movie. I had no idea what it was about.....it was a random pick. However some of u want to try to articulate it or condone it, it is WRONG. The boy was just that......a BOY. At his age he knows nothing of love....especially of love with a MAN......and equally of love with someone so much older. Get a grip. This movie was well made but the substance of the story is WRONG on so many levels. Overwhelming majority will agree.
maccanaut 1 year ago
@maccanaut: I don't think it is your place to judge. Of course children of that age fall on love, can already know they are gay (even much earlier). Sure it's a way to protect kids to pretend they don't fall on love or have sexual desires but heh, I only need to think of the millions of explicted gay fanfiction written by girls and women to know that this is nonsense. Nothing is black and white, there's lots of grey inbetween. Such a high legal age is a pretty new developement anyway.
MsHyde1 1 year ago
@MsHyde1 laws are made for the majority. To reflect the views of the majority. The majority of peoples views are aligned with mine. It is repugnant to consider a child is capable of making the decision to have a sexual relationship with someone much older than themselves, when they have barely passed puberty. You may hold ur self serving opinions but try persuading the rest of western and most other cultures that ur opinion is right.
maccanaut 1 year ago
@MsHyde1 Children arent allowed to vote, drink, drive, smoke, get tattoos etc etc. Most children grow up thankful of their parents intervention where deemed fit. This is because they look back and realise that decisions they were on the verge of making when younger were not educated decisions. The same applies in any decision to have a relationship or to have sex. Adults are persuasive and looked up to. You favour exploitation of that power over children. Shame on you.
maccanaut 1 year ago
@maccanaut: Er, no, I don't. That's why I wrote it is a way to protect kids. But applying this to every idividual is ridiculous. That's way there is tons of grey inbetween and millions of millions of children, lets face it, having sexual relations to people who are by definition of the law, adults. I am all, very much, for legal age and certain borders because just cos some kids are mature enough others are not and need to be protected.
MsHyde1 1 year ago
@maccanaut: But you should keep in mind there are enough who can deal with it very well and in that case, especially if it is some age gap like, say, a 14-year old and a 19-year old or just some doctor play that pretty much everyone does (and hey, children masturbate, children have sexual thoughts and don't pretend you don't know it from your own experience) it is some sort of don't ask don't tell. The current laws (I can only judge Germany) are fine but don't bash kids who are mature enough.
MsHyde1 1 year ago
@MsHyde1 Since the whole debate has been raised in response to the movie, we'll use this as an example. The soldier and the boy are not that far apart in years. However, the gap in life experience between them is huge and the boy is a mere child. He cannot be clear in his view of what he really wants. If he 'experiments' within his own age group then sure.....its acceptable to a lot of people. This is because BOTH would be EQUAL in their inexperience, and not manipulative by nature.
maccanaut 1 year ago
@maccanaut Read the book. The boy is gay.
ifuliki 1 year ago
@ifuliki that may be so. But he had an entitlement to his childhood without manipulative measures taken by a much older male that had intended right from the beginning to seduce him. Children are easily persuaded by adults and place a large amount of trust in them. Being gay is irrelevant. He was a child and the soldier was an adult. The rest of the world cant be wrong and the people here are right for gods sakes.
maccanaut 1 year ago
@maccanaut: As for the movie, I've always been in two minds about it. But well, I don't think you are entitled to judge on the author's feelings and if it was right or wrong for him. To me it's a bit creepy, simply because the topic is usually taboo and not spoken about or shown in movies but I guess I've got to respect the personal experience of a person in that matter.
MsHyde1 1 year ago
@MsHyde1 The kid was exploited. Exploited by someone who was old enough to know what he was doing when the kid was not so sure, but thinking its ok because an adult was encouraging and persuasive.
Enough said. Cant be bothered banging on about what i know almost everyone agrees with. Bye
maccanaut 1 year ago
@maccanaut: Yeah, yadda yadda, just tell the person who actually was that boy and experienced this how he felt about it and how mature he was. *rolls eyes* As if you knew..
MsHyde1 1 year ago
@maccanaut
Read the book!
ifuliki 1 year ago
nice movie
handsomeguy8131984 1 year ago
@ifuliki - you are a sicko. i cant beleive you are allowed to work with kids with the belief that men and boys having sex is okay.
leecfb000 1 year ago
@MsHyde1The boy was fortnate to discover his sexuality was not something that he alone experienced. Also he was forunate enough to meet someone whom he could love and who loved him even though it was due to the exigencies of war a brief encounter. Read the book; it is a true story.
ifuliki 1 year ago
حرام عليك هذا ولد صغير ايش يعرف في ها الدنيا
sendro1956 1 year ago
COR 18:22!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
444rrrfff 1 year ago
Esta película es esencial para todos aquellos que consideran que la pedofilia necesita ser revisada. No toda la pedofilia es agresión, de la misma forma que no toda relacción sexual entre adultos es violación.
incazomit 1 year ago
Beyond the technical, the most important is the story. It is a window to the feelings of two people whose sexual preferences, has been quite stigmatized, a way to see with new eyes, more human, the life of these characters. It is another aspect of pedophilia has been so wrongly linked to sexual abuse. A supporting argument for this film is the fact that it actually happened and who is also narrated by jeroen, it is still a child in the story.
incazomit 1 year ago
This film is essential for those who believe that pedophilia need to be revised. Not all pedophilia is aggression, just as not all relatives of sex between adults is rape.
incazomit 1 year ago
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SheIsntReal94 1 year ago
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bRoOtaLkiiD 1 year ago
And lastly, Walt's reaction to the film being exposed,he was clearly upset.The film hidden in his riffle.Walt wanted his own memories of there time together.Futher proof that Jeroen had come to mean somthing to Walt,instead of a last night sexual encounter, he just talks to Jeroen. When he walked Jeroen home that night, Heit comes out,Jeroen goes to the door takes one last look at Walt not knowing its his last Walt manages a smile,tries to tell Heit hes le