Look at the crime rates,states with concealed weapons laws.Crime rates down with states have concealed weapons laws.I like Texas's laws and one is anyone can shoot a trespasser on their property at night.More guns in the right hands,less crime
Gun control is for law abiding good citizens NOT criminals. Criminals are criminals because they break laws including gun laws. So gun laws don't work on criminals. Simple facts.
Yeah... Lets get rid of ALL gun control laws, including the laws requiring gun manufacturers to embed safety precautions and lets let ANYONE buy one, with no need for a license or permit, EVEN KIDS!!!
...or, we could at least keep the current gun control laws. Also, gun owners should post signs in their yards detailing the exact location of the guns in their homes and (assuming they have them) the combinations to the safes they're in!!!!!
@davidlones365 """Lets get rid of ALL gun control laws"""
Vermont, just 2 firearm homicides in 2010 and ZERO in 2009.
They've got the loosest gun laws in the country and they've maintained single digit firearm homicide numbers for DECADES. You don't even need a permit to carry a concealed handgun in Vermont.
California, strictest gun laws in the country with the highest firearm homicide numbers and the highest crime rates.
Gun control only makes crime WORSE, not better....
people who go through the process ( backround check ...etc) to aquire a weapon lawfully are not going to be the ones shooting up banks and liquer stores, if you ban guns it only stops the legal gun owners (protective citizens) from having tools to protect themselves, it is not going to stop the thug who can get guns smuggled from anywhere under the radar, a law is not going to stop the crooks from getting guns, it will only take away are God given right to protect our OWN lives
I read some statistics some time ago, one set was especially interesting. At that time, the number of homes burgularized when the occupants were at home in the UK was 55%. In the USA the number was 4%. The number of homes with self defence firearms in the UK was 0%. In the USA the number was 55%. Do what you want for yourself, but I believe Iwill keep my self defence firearm at home here in the USA.
What a stupid ad. Few people in the UK and Australia have guns at home. The crime rates there are a tiny fraction of the US. Why? Please explain with reason not dumb slogans.
@3558035580 The UK was voted Most Violent Country In Europe, their gun crime and firearm homicide rates have gone UP every single year for 14 straight years, and Australian crime skyrocketed when their gun laws were changed, especially when it was made illegal to defend yourself with a gun, that law let the criminals win, the politician that drafted that law needs to be hung by his balls with piano wire.
@NinjaRider777R I live in Australia and what's more I am a cop. What you have written is a complete lie. Crime rates, especially gun crime rates have dropped. The politician who had the courage to get rid of guns here was John Howard - an arch conservative who was one of the world leaders who most supported George W Bush. In fact Bush called him a "man of steel". If he had the sense to see what this love of gun culture could do to a society how come you can't.
@3558035580 """What you have written is a complete lie"""
usatoday com/news/opinion/2002/05/09/ncoppf.htm
From the article..."Since Australia's 1996 laws banning most guns and making it a crime to use a gun defensively, armed robberies rose by 51%, unarmed robberies by 37%, assaults by 24% and kidnappings by 43%. While murders fell by 3%, manslaughter rose by 16%."
@NinjaRider777R This article you quote is from an opinion piece. Again it is a lie. This lie being spread amongst gun supporters in the US has been exposed by the Australian media before. The problem you have is that your campaign enshrines the right of law abiding citizens to have guns but also enshrines the right of the mentally deranged to have guns. A deranged man in Australia slaughtered 35 men, women and children. He was not a criminal. Please tell me how you would prevent this?
@3558035580 John Lott's numbers are not "opinion", he wrote an entire book on the subject of gun control laws FAILING to stop crime all around the world.
Hard numbers don't lie, gun control FAILS.
And labeling someone as mentally deranged depends on who's doing the labeling, sane to one person is insane to another.
If someone snaps, there's no way to predict or stop that, and they'll get a gun no matter how many laws there are, Black Markets exist EVERYWHERE, that's why bans DON'T WORK.
You claiming to be a cop and not knowing about black marketsonly makes you look like a liar and an idiot.
Criminals, by definition, do NOT FOLLOW LAWS.
Anti-Gun laws do NOT effect criminals, they ONLY effect law abiding citizens, and when you take away a citizen's right to defend themselves with force, you LET THE CRIMINALS WIN.
Cohen & Felsen's studies on crime, criminals seek UNARMED EASY TARGETS, not armed ones, a REAL cop would know that....
@NinjaRider777R Again the article you quote from is a lie. So much so that in 2000 our attorney general (a rightwinger) demanded the NRA stop refering to these bogus statistics and remove all references to Australia from their website. Google homicide rates in australia and have a look at some real studies. I am a real cop who doesn't want to worry every wacko I pull over can shoot me without warning. Support law and order support gun control. That's what I do. Why not you?
@3558035580 Gun control does NOT stop criminals from obtaining guns, it never has, it never will.
Only 2 groups fear an armed populace, criminals and tyrants, it's very clear that you fit into the latter role, being just another tyrannical asshole who fears irrational things.
Go into any prison in your country and ask any convict if gun control laws stop them from getting guns, the answer will be NO every single time.
@NinjaRider777R The evidence is clear that gun control stops gun related homicide - its quite obvious really for anyone that wants to see it. Most gun homicide is not done by criminals but by lunatics and as a result of domestic violence. Taking guns out of the tempted reach of those 2 types will save a lot of lives. You still haven't bothered to answer my intial question. Why is the gun related death figure in UK and Aust a fraction of the USA? All you can resort to is abuse and slogans. Why?
@NinjaRider777R Yes and is still a small fraction of US related gun deaths. You still haven't addressed this question. If you are happy to have Columbines/ Virginia Techs etc. happening every month good luck to you and your country. I'd rather live somewhere where people can see sense on gun control. Hey and I just came home from training with our new firearms - how ironic is that! Anyway I've said all I am going to say on this. Thanks for sending a reply without abuse. All the best to you.
@NinjaRider777R Back with the abuse. You disappoint me. Since you appear to have the figures at your fingertips put up the rates for homicide per 100000 in US, UK and Aust. then explain the difference. I know I said I wouldn't bother anymore with you but I couldn't help myself.
@3558035580 Your own words....""gun control STOPS gun related homicide""....
Your numbers and the UK's numbers are going UP the more restrictive your laws get.because criminals do NOT have any problem getting guns despite your laws.
The USA's numbers are coming DOWN with more states getting rid of useless overly restrictive gun regulation.
More and more states are adopting Castle Doctrine laws, which make it LEGAL for people to defend themselves with force.
@NinjaRider777R I hate to tell you this but putting abuse or capital letters in your statements doesn't make them true. Since you refuse to put up the statistics I asked, I'll have a go. The latest comparison I could find was 2006 - Overall murder rates per 100000 Australia 1.28, UK 2.03, USA 6.10. gun homicide rates in 2000 showed USA with almost 10 times Australian rate and over 20 times UK. 3 countries with similar cultures, shared history and the same language. Why the huge difference?
That's 4.37 times more crime in the UK than in the USA because UK laws have turned around backwards. Those who defend themselves from criminals get punished MORE than the criminals themselves.
It's the CRIMINAL who should be punished, not the victim.
@3558035580 And what was the overall violent crime rate for those countries? The International Crime Victims Survey states that after Australia and England & Wales, the highest prevalence of crime was in Holland (25 percent), Sweden (25 percent) and Canada (24 percent). The United States, despite its high murder rate, was among the middle ranking countries with a 21 percent victimization rate.
When you think that just because you're 14 that you know everything about everything, yet you still get EVERYTHING WRONG, that's means you're a fucking MORON who has ZERO EDUCATION on the subjects you're trying to act like an expert on.
That also means that your LACK of education in general because of your AGE is part of the fucking problem.
@3558035580 yea because people going on a killing spree with a knife would never happen, it is only the evil guns that make people do bad things. Except for the guy who went on a rampage in china, killing 8 members of his family. Or the 5 mass school stabbings from March 2010 through Sept. 2011. Cops are nothing but a cleanup crew, I prefer having the right to protect myself and my family.
You can keep denying the FBI links all you want, but that means nothing. I take their word over yours. And no, you did not link anything to them, not ever. I proved the links you claimed were FBI were in fact fakes with my own real FBI links, which you continue to ignore. Pathetic.
@NinjaRider777R Actually I proved that website you linked was not the FBI. I don't claim their website is fake, just the one you linked. I never said it is illegal to fire a gun in Maryland, just in my town. I also never claimed to be 21. I am older than that and have those degrees. You are claiming I lied about things I never even said. Do you know what that means? It means you are a pathetic fool is reduced to lying about someone who is against when you can't answer their arguments.
My age isn't even on my profile. I can remember what I post just fine. You on the other hand are seing things that aren't there. I did not prove direct links to the FBI were fake, I proved YOUR links were fake. I didn't just claim it, I proved it by posting the real FBI link. Multiple times.
@MetalSights The FBI knows more than either of you idiots. Which by the way has stats that disprove your claim. Gunowners cause more gun deaths, intentionaly and by accident, more so than any cop ever.
At 0:52 the cop kicks the unarmed man, at 1:35 cop twists neck of unarmed man, at exactly 5:00 the officer who had just handcuffed the UNARMED man and searched him to verify that he was unarmed draws his own gun and shoots the UNARMED HANDCUFFED MAN IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD.
He executed him for no reason, and he did it ON CAMERA.
@NinjaRider777R I am not surprised when I saw this: That link leads to nowhere. Once again you have made up a sick, twisted lie about law enforcement and are passing it off as fact. So now you are not just a pathetic liar, you are also a sick liar.
@MetalSights Ah the Second Amendment. If only you understood the truth about it. Your delusions would be shattered and sent crashing down on top of you.
Australia: Readers of the USA Today newspaper discovered in 2002 that, "Since Australia's 1996 laws banning most guns and making it a crime to use a gun defensively, armed robberies rose by 51%, unarmed robberies by 37%, assaults by 24% and kidnappings by 43%. While murders fell by 3%, manslaughter rose by 16%."2
Long before those studies, history records what happened when the Cole Younger gang of eight tried to hold up the bank in Northfield, Minnesota, in 1876. They were recognized by a citizen who sounded the alarm. The gang was shot to pieces by armed civilians as they exited the bank. Two were shot dead, two wounded, and Cole Younger was captured. It wasn’t the police but rather armed citizens who thwarted the gang’s attempt to rob the bank.
Again, according to Kleck amd Gertz, “Citizens shoot and kill more criminals than police do every year [2,819 times versus 303]” Moreover, as George Will pointed out in an article entitled “Are We a Nation of Cowards?” in the November 15, 1993, issue of Newsweek, while police have an error rate of 11 percent when it comes to the accidental shooting of innocent civilians, the armed citizens’ error rate is only 2 percent, making them five times safer than police.
@MetalSights Here's the 2009 state by state firearm homicide breakdown from the FBI
www2.fbi gov/ucr/cius2009/data/table_20.html
Now go back to the 2010 links I posted earlier and see that after DC's handgun ban was lifted in 2008, their firearm homicide rate came DOWN for 2009 and 2010.
Here's another one you might like.
nytimes com/2005/06/28/politics/28scotus.html
The cops are no longer under any Constitutional Obligation to protect anyone anymore, people are better off protecting themselves.
@MetalSights You don't need to convince me of that, I grew up near Detroit, the home of some of the most corrupt cops on the face of the planet, they'll give the LAPD a run for their money any day of the week.
@NinjaRider777R Don't worry, I will promise Ultimaton100 I will not defend him with my gun incase he is in extreme danger of being attacked or mauled. I will respect his opinion.
@MetalSights Look back in the posts, he did exactly as I predicted, he said my links to the FBI's own website are fake....
He claims to be a gun owner himself, yet he never said which gun he supposedly owns, even though he claims firing a gun in Maryland (his state) is somehow illegal...
He also claims to have Master's and Bachelor's degrees at only 21 years old, yet those take 6 years each to get....
He's lied so much that he doesn't know what the truth is anymore.
@MetalSights You do not have concern for your family, you are using their lives as an excuse to own your guns for "fun". That is disgusting, placing the value of human life, especially your own flesh and blood, so low. Excuse me now, I feel the need to wash myself after talking to you.
@MetalSights My arguments are secure. Neither of you have been able to put a scratch on them so far. Yes I did call you both evil and disgusting, for using your families as shields in your arguments.
@NinjaRider777R You know why I am going to claim they are fake? Its because of one reason. They are fake. You know it and I know it. Its that old website masking itself as the FBI you are using, not the real site. If you don't want me to expose the websites you use as fake, here is a suggestion, don't use fake websites, use the real ones like I have, if you are man enough.
@MetalSights I see you follow that quote close to heart then, right? You have never been able to answer my arguments and are reduced to petty insults and lies, like this other fool.
@NinjaRider777R Thanks again for proving my words are correct. You still have not linked anything legit. For the last time, that is NOT the FBI's site. I've linked the REAL site, which you denied. The real website showed you the exact opposite: Crime is up where more gun owners live, it is down where less are. Now that I have exposed your fake lies yet again, shall we continue, or have I whipped you enough?
You both are pathetic fools. Filthy liars and greedy bastards. Anti-Americans, anarchists, no better than neo-Nazis. The list of whats wrong with the both of you keeps growing doesn't it?
@MetalSights Tell me, do you believe everything anybody tells you? I pray you don't have any kids or plague any woman with a marriage to you if you really are that gullible. He is flat out lying and you believed it. Hook, line and sinker. Congrats, you are his new lapdog.
@NinjaRider777R You have NEVER posted a link to ANYTHING that meant ANYTHING, so you can shut up now. I see you are crying that old lie about me calling official sources fake. I never once called the FBI, NYTimes, Washingon Post, or any of that. Every time you repeat that lie I will expose it. I am not a troll. A troll does not present the facts to destroy futile claims, and that is what I have done. My UK crime stats are spot on, I proved it with links. Crime has gone down, like your dignity.
The FBI's own website, crime stats for 2010, as well as a 5 year table showing firearm homicides going DOWN every single year for 5 straight years while gun ownership rose over 500% in that time.
@MetalSights That's direct links to the FBI's homicide stats for 2010, I have them for 2009 as well, he'll claim that both of those links are fake, or that ANY links I post are fake, meanwhile he never posts any of his own in return yet he claims to have posted "30+ links" yet he's the ONLY one that can see them.....
He gets his information firstly from his ass, then from the Brady Campaign, and the Violence Policy Center, a site infamous for incomplete, incorrect, and biased data.
@NinjaRider777R My 30 links are clear and open for everyone to see. Its awfully convenient you claim you can't see them, because they refute your every claim and expose your every lie. I've never made a single thing up or gotten anything from Bardy or VPC. My stats are from the FBI, CIA, NCB, police reports, surveys, etc. You can keep denying their existence, but when everyone else sees them and acknowledges them the only one left looking like a sad, sorry fool is you.
@Ultimaton100 Nobody else has acknowledged any "links" you've posted because there haven't been any.
I just posted links to the FBI, and you ignored them and claimed your stats came from the FBI, yet no numbers you've ever posted match those links....
@NinjaRider777R The only ones denying my links are you and your fellow radicals. I've gotten plenty of feedback from people who have seen and followed them. You did not post any link to the FBI. You posted a link to a fake website you are lying and claiming is the FBI, but I'm too smart to fall for it and now you are mad that I am. You have seen my FBI links, so you look even more like a pathetic loser for denying them again.
Yep it makes perfect sense! Take away the law-abiding citizens' guns so only the criminals...have...the... ...ummm... ...on second thought, that is a TERRIBLE idea! lol
Your so delusional. You actually think being armed will protect your family. I bet you didn't know most domestic crime and murder is caused by a gun already in the house. I'm a worthless piece of shit? I'm not the one using my family as an excuse to own a gun. Trash like you would just use your family as a shield if any real danger showed up. The only thing here that is worthless scum and trash is you. Your a coward, a liar, and a deranged lunatic. You will get what you deserve, soon enough.
@Ultimaton100 I'm homeschooled....so I'm at home 24/7.....I don't get to come home and see my stuff stolen, I'll be there when it happens, and there has been alot of breakins recently...I learn with my brothers and mother, and if some cocksucker like you kicks down my door, I'm shooting your fucking kneecap off.
@MetalSights Keep that attitude up and you will lose your "right" to a gun, mark my words. I bet you would think of yourself as a "true patriot" for shooting someone coming to take your gun. But the second you take aim at a federal agent you would be classified as an enemy of the state, and my only regret would be that I would not be there to see you get taken down. If you wish to live as a traitor then you will die as a traitor.
@Ultimaton100 With more and more states adopting Castle Doctrine laws that make it 100% LEGAL for someone to defend their home with force, shooting burglars is NOT against the law.
Also, many states have said very plainly that people ARE allowed to defend themselves from LEOs who have not identified themselves.
Invade my house in the middle of the night and you'll catch a bullet between the eyes.
Armed raids have gotten more innocent people killed than they've ever saved.
@Ultimaton100 ""You make yet another claim with no proof""
Waco, Branch Davidian Compound, the local sheriff told the feds just to talk to them peacefully and everything would be fine.
The feds didn't listen, had to go in like cowboys, got their own people and the civilians killed.
Ruby Ridge, Feds went in like cowboys again when talking would have solved the problem, FBI sniper shot a woman in the face while she held her baby in her arms.
There's a recent raid where a Marine was killed by SWAT.
@NinjaRider777R You are twisting the truth again. Feds tried to negotiate peacefully first, but when it was apparent that innocent lives were in danger they went in, not like cowboys, but like stealthed commandos and saved over a dozen people at the cost of some of their own. As for that second one, same thing. They went in with force only after talks failed. There was no woman shot in the face holding a baby, you flat out made that up. Very sick of you to try and paint heroes as villains.
@Ultimaton100 """There was no woman shot in the face holding a baby"""
Vicki Weaver, shot in the face while holding her 10 month old baby Elisheba in her arms, shot by FBI HRT Sniper Lon Horiuchi. The bullet went through her head into the chest of Kevin Harris, a friend of the Weaver family.
This was AFTER Randy Weaver was shot in the back, and after his Son was shot and his dog killed by other FBI agents.
This is all DOCUMENTED you piece of shit troll....
@NinjaRider777R I did a Google search on those names.... NOTHING. Nothing came up at all. You got some nerve you know that? Making up complete lies about federal agents and even imagining fake names about fake people from your deluded little head. What really is disgusting is that you are presenting all this filthy nonsense you made up as fact. The only real piece of shit here is you, making up such terrible lies about good people. You deserve to burn in Hell.
@Ultimaton100 You really suck ass at searching Google, because the Ruby Ridge incident hit every major newspaper and Time Magazine when the FBI Sniper wasn't charged with murder for disobeying thew FBI Rules Of Engagement.
@Ultimaton100 If they decide that rights don't mean anything, and they're defended by them and I am not. The whole point of the amendment is to PREVENT government from shoving it's cock down your throat, but you seem to get that alot already.
Next we'll remove freedom of speech. And cruel and unusual punishment. And freedom of religion. And we couldn't stop them. Hitler used his fine words and instituted gun-control in the name of "safety", then took over Europe. So do all communist countries.
@MetalSights You can tell yourself all that all you want, but that does not make it anymore true. Your little rant has about as much facts as a child's bedtime story.
@Ultimaton100 He's more right than you ever have been or ever will be.
Every single vote to ban music, movies, print magazines, porn, radio shows, videogames, and even the spoken word has been a DIRECT attack on the First Amendment.
The Democrats have been trying to take down the 1st for decades....
Arnold's consistent attacks on personal freedoms are one of the reasons he's no longer the Governator....
Senators Lieberman and Kohl, DEMOCRATS wanting to ban videogames, they failed miserably back in 1994, and they've failed in every single state a dozen times since then, and every single time the ban vote was started by a DEMOCRAT. It goes as high as the megadyke Billary Clinton, and her friend Tipper Gore (wife of DEMOCRAT Al Gore), former head of the PMRC that wanted to ban most music.
@NinjaRider777R I had to laugh for a good five minutes after reading that. NOTHING you just said EVER happened. You made that up on the spot. It is all you can do, isn't it? Make up rediculous lies because you have no truth or facts to back you up. Just like with those fake fed raids you made up.
@NinjaRider777R You made them up, so no, something you make up did not happen in real life. There is no "video evidence", period. Not recognizing something that isn't there doesn't make me a stupid moron, it makes me normal and sane.
That's a video link dipshit, it leads to the video of the 1994 Inquisition of Sega, Nintendo, and all other videogame creators based on the scenes in the SegaCD game called Night Trap.
It was started by Leiberman and Kohl, both democrats.
Both of the Clintons are Democrats as are both of the Gores.
@NinjaRider777R Made up video evidence is not video evidence. That link goes NOWHERE. Know why? Because it is fake, made up, imagined. Every time you have ever claimed to back up your word with a link, this has been the case. A big fake, just like you.
So what is your 100% opinion on gun control? Thousands of illegal guns are taken a year from the streets of "gun free" Britain, crime is significantly lower in areas with more gun owners, ask a criminal if he would break into a house with a gun owner inside...
I know how liberals like to blatantly ignore facts and statistics, and not answer questions that could prove them wrong, or try to change the focus, but surely a MILDLY intelligent person like yourself can not deny this.
@MetalSights You are wrong about Britain. More gun owners=more gun crime. A simple but true fact evident all over the Earth. Ever since their gun ban crime has been dropping. I think the facts speak for themselves, more so than any criminal paid to say something. You are wrong about Liberals. It is in fact Conservatives who blatantly ignore facts and statistics and not answer questions that could prove them wrong or try to change focus. Ninjarider has done all that enough times to prove it.
@Ultimaton100 Ahh, so just because crime rose after they banned guns means nothing. Gotcha.
Have you ever seen any of this crime? Have you been affected by it? Funny, we have 7 guns, 2 of which are assault rifles, mine has two 35 round magazines, and I'm getting another one for Christmas....a pretty double barrel for home defense. It doesn't take much to prove you wrong, but ignorance is bliss. A house was broken into down my street...they were from NY....a gun free state, not used to it here.
@MetalSights You are ignoring the evidence that crime dropped and are now lying, saying it went up? Gotcha.To be honest, it does not matter how many guns you own. Owning a gun does not make you a good person. And trying to use the lives of innocent people to justify owning such a thing is disgusting, to say the least. It doesn't take much to prove me wrong? Then why has it not happened yet? Ignorance must be bliss if you are enjoying it so much.
@Ultimaton100 So it's only right information when you want it to be right...well this isn't fair at all. I'll tell you, I've argued with radical cursing insane Muslims and Islamists that had better arguments that whatever you're trying to convince me.
You offer no argument other than your word and insults, claim falsities on my side and fact on yours, tell me I'm disgusting for concern for my helpless family, why I am debating with hardheaded trolls only puts me in the wrong here.
@MetalSights Actually the information is only right when it is proven to be right, backed up with legitimate sources. All you fools have to do is find something real to back up your word. Sounds pretty fair to me. I'm not trying to convince you of anything, I am simply informing you that you are wrong, but thanks for telling me you are Islamaphobic. Now I know something else wrong with you. My word has always ben backed up with links and sources. The same cannot be said for you.
No such thing as Islamaphobia, friend. I fear terrorism and women being killed for adultery (Sharia Law)
I would NEVER aim a firearm at someone who had no intent to hurt me or my family, shedding innocent blood like a madman...you support criminals and defenselessness, why?
@MetalSights You're wasting your time trying to get a logical answer from him, any direct links to stats that prove him wrong he considers to be "fake sites run by right-wing extremists" (his own words), and that includes the FBI, NYTimes, Washington Post, Google, the UK Telegraph, the UK Guardian, and many others.
He's a troll of the lowest slimey bridge dwelling type....
Oh and his UK crime stats are 100% pure bullshit, their crime never went down, it's gone UP for 14 years in a row.
@NinjaRider777R He said the FBI website is fake? Well, I don't want to be around when he has kids. Or when he decides to abort those kids. Or when he has kids with his 4th wife. One of those.
You don't save civility, you have none period. I've seen your work countless times to confirm just that. I'm a joke and a plague? I'm the only one using facts and statistics, your the one making up lies because you have none yourself. You can deny what criminals did to me and my family all you want. You've always denied the truth so nothing has changed.
You can choose to deny my education all you want, but thats part of the reason I've been able to thwart you so easily. The other part is your just stupid. I can't present a reasonable debate? I have no facts, intelligence, or reason? Plenty of civilized people I have had discussions with will say otherwise, even pro-gunners. My vocabulary is advanced, otherwise you wouldn't be so confused at it. So you've seen me get schooled on forums? You need help, your seeing things that aren't there.
Little kid? Reasonable debate? Your getting ahead of yourself, scum. I'm a college graduate and there is no such thing as a reasonable debate with the likes of you. That implies being civilized, and you are far from that. So go crawl back into the hole you slithered out of, worm. I've had more than enough of filth like you.
@Ultimaton100 LOL "A college graduate" You're a joke is what you are. You couldn't present a reasonable debate if your life depended on it. You have zero facts, intelligence, or ability to reason. You're not even good at insults, strange because that's all you do here. There's nothing advanced about your vocabulary, thought processes, and on your best day you're not as smart as me on your worst. I don't know about your college, but I've seen you get schooled on these forums left and right.
Everything you just said about me I think fits you and this other trash perfectly. I've never had to fabricate anything. The truth itself is on my side. Brainless rhetorics and insults? Sorry if you don't understand my advanced vocabulary, but something that is above you is not brainless.
@Ultimaton100 I save my civility for people who deserve it. You're a fucking joke and a plague to this world. You're also a blatant liar "people have tried to break into my house before - that's what police are for". If somebody had actually tried to break into your house, the police could do nothing but write down what you told them, because they could never respond before the criminal did something. You're willing to completely make stuff up just to prove your idiotic point, loser.
localism needs guns when federalism makes them. real farmers own guns... that is why these fake people dress up in target clothes, looking at a couple flowers in a pot and pretend to be like the rest of us... pure propaganda.. my family is full of committed gardeners/farmers and we wouldnt be doing that still if not for our guns against the federallies...
@giantart That is not a problem, having been a soldier since the age of 17 and having been involved in many conflicts. I would have no issue with giving you a taste of the real world.
@ RichieBRckhardd, Great, I applaud you for that. There ARE MANY service members who have taken the Oathkeeper pledge who would be right there with you. Check out Oathkeepers, you too will probably take the pledge. Good luck on your service career!
Ninjarider, ever since day 1 all you have done is lie and lie and lie again. Fact and truth are two concepts that illude you completely, and it is one of many reasons you have me on the edge of my seat here laughing at you. One of the things I learned in college (a place where people go to get educated) is that I need not pity those beneath me. Not that I give a shit about you anyway.
@Ultimaton100 sure it could happen. after thousands of lives have been lost trying to accomplish such a task. there are hundreds of militias in the US. many FAR MORE radical thananyone on this comments section. those radicals would JUMP at the chance to start the sceond civilwar. do you know how many members of themilitary are in the NRA? I can tell you every servicemen I know would gladly stand against the military if it came to a point like that.
Richie, you need to see what happened in New Orleans after Katrina. The cops AND National Guard went door to door CONFISCATING guns from people who were defending themselves and their neighborhoods!
@whytbear1 That was a fluke! all the guys in my family are or have been in the military and would never under any ircumstances do such a thing. EVER person I've talked to about this said they would never do that. They would have to get UN troops to do it ecause so many of our armed forces would refuse to do so.I'm signing uo in a yearand I can tell you I would Refuse to do that.
People who cry for gun control are complete idiots. The only people who will lose their guns are law abiding citizens. Do they really think criminals (who use illegally obtained guns) are gonna say 'Oh, they just banned guns in this state... I better turn my weapons in' ?
@MetalSights oh i know..because in ohio and west virginia ( the are i live ) they break into the police stations and swat team training areas all the time n take their stuff..because they have training gear thats less than leathal but it only takes a couple things to turn them back into real steel full autos
HEY Now, theres no point in arguing who cares what the anti gunner like Ultimaton think it's not like they can do anything about it! They'll never take the guns away! because for one thing The mlitary and police would NEVER enforce a gun ban placed by the government and two if they tried it would cause another civil war. so arguing won't make a difference ESPECIALLY on YOUTUBE. so lets all go back to watching our videos and have a good day :D
@RichieBRckhardd Gun control is the future. Public safety will previal over corrupt greed. The right-wing corporatists have twisted the truth behind the Second Amendment into something evil something that is allowing killers and drug runners to run free in the streets, and that mess will be cleansed, one way or another.
Considering the FACT that many states are getting rid of their gun control laws, once AGAIN you prove how completely clueless you really are.
Plus you prove how little you know about the financial side of the Hunting and Shooting Sports industries.
If you shut them both down, the economy would crash completely by losing $100 Billion Dollars per year in economy driving retail sales, tax revenues, and a dozen other fees & conservation donations.
@NinjaRider777R Only the backwards states are doing away with and blocking gun legislation, like where you live. Sorry, but a handful of brainless cesspools do no speak for all of America. Other states, such as Maryland and New York, are drafting more gun legistlation as we speak. Once AGAIN you prove how completely clueless you are. Plus you show how simple-minded and gullible you are. Gun control does not mean gun ban, no matter what propaganda you've shoved down your throat.
@Ultimaton100 The states you call backwards are seeing their crime rates go DOWN when they loosened up gun laws, the states you praised are seeing their crime rates go UP within days of enacting more strict gun laws that do NOT effect criminals at all.
Vermont is rated the WORST by the Brady's, yet they had ZERO gun murders in 2009.
And you HAVE said many times that you want all guns banned in the past, you want to deny sales based on your gut rather than hard evidence
@NinjaRider777R I could go on a long rant too, but I'll make it simple. Maybe your feeble mind will grasp it this time. You have it backwards. States wothout gun laws have the highest gun crime, those that do have the least. That Brady and Vermont crap is nonsense you have made up on the spot, typical of you. And finally, I have never said anything of the sort. The lies never end with you. I want slaes denied based on evidence, while you want convicted killers to get guns.
@NinjaRider777R As usual, your stats are WAY off, and you know it. The real state with the loosest gun laws is Texas, and they have the highest firearm homicide rate in the country. California, which you incorrecly related to communism, has one of the least. This is direct from the FBI and the National Crime Database, as I proved when you brought this up weeks ago. Your right, the FBI's numbers do not lie, but your not using the FBI's numbers. Your using made up crap.
@NinjaRider777R Your right, I am going to call it a fake, because it is. That is the exact same fake website you used last month. You never learn do you? I exposed that ebsite and everything on it as a fraud a long time ago. Why aren't you using the REAL FBI site? Every time you use one of these fake websites and try to pass them off as real, you only look even more like a lying prick for doing so. As I've already proven, Texas has the highes homicide rates. Check the links if your man enough.
@NinjaRider777R Once again, your lying is not working for you. You have 30 links from me to choose from, pick one and stop denying their existence. And I've already linked the real FBI site, its one of those many links. I've copied and pasted your link and sent it to my fellow patriots so we can all laugh at your folly. Please keep going, I like laughing.
@NinjaRider777R First off, just because I have not posted any on this video does not mean I have not posted any at all, unless your stupid enough to think this one video is all of Youtube. Second, only that one other video you keep spewing your crap at me has no links of mine either. There are many videos with a grand total of 30 links of mine, and I've already explained why I won't post any more. Pick one and stop denying them already, its not working for you. Pathetic lying loser.
@NinjaRider777R I highly doubt you have seen them ALL, but if you have, you are even more of an asshole for seeing all of my links AGAIN and denying them still. I posted the link to the real FBI site a long time ago. I've had my testicles for awhile by your definition. What is your excuse, lying loser?
Look at the crime rates,states with concealed weapons laws.Crime rates down with states have concealed weapons laws.I like Texas's laws and one is anyone can shoot a trespasser on their property at night.More guns in the right hands,less crime
wafrederick 1 week ago
Gun control is for law abiding good citizens NOT criminals. Criminals are criminals because they break laws including gun laws. So gun laws don't work on criminals. Simple facts.
SinCityC6 2 weeks ago
Yeah... Lets get rid of ALL gun control laws, including the laws requiring gun manufacturers to embed safety precautions and lets let ANYONE buy one, with no need for a license or permit, EVEN KIDS!!!
...or, we could at least keep the current gun control laws. Also, gun owners should post signs in their yards detailing the exact location of the guns in their homes and (assuming they have them) the combinations to the safes they're in!!!!!
davidlones365 3 weeks ago
@davidlones365 """Lets get rid of ALL gun control laws"""
Vermont, just 2 firearm homicides in 2010 and ZERO in 2009.
They've got the loosest gun laws in the country and they've maintained single digit firearm homicide numbers for DECADES. You don't even need a permit to carry a concealed handgun in Vermont.
California, strictest gun laws in the country with the highest firearm homicide numbers and the highest crime rates.
Gun control only makes crime WORSE, not better....
NinjaRider777R 3 weeks ago
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I'm a Paramedic and this is the plan I came up with for citizens PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY:
While waiting for :
FIRE DEPT:
Practice fire drills, use extinguishers for small fires, get out for large fires, etc.
AMBULANCE:
Give CPR/first aid while waiting for the ambulance.
POLICE:
Use self defense tools.(guns, knives, etc)as needed to protect yourself while waiting for the Police
Bad things happen while waiting.Guns are simply tools like fire extinguishers. They save lives
romansten9 1 month ago
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SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A GUN!
SWITZERLAND'S GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT THEY ISSUE A RIFLE.
SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!
EcotecUSA 1 month ago
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people who go through the process ( backround check ...etc) to aquire a weapon lawfully are not going to be the ones shooting up banks and liquer stores, if you ban guns it only stops the legal gun owners (protective citizens) from having tools to protect themselves, it is not going to stop the thug who can get guns smuggled from anywhere under the radar, a law is not going to stop the crooks from getting guns, it will only take away are God given right to protect our OWN lives
thatoneguy222222 1 month ago
I read some statistics some time ago, one set was especially interesting. At that time, the number of homes burgularized when the occupants were at home in the UK was 55%. In the USA the number was 4%. The number of homes with self defence firearms in the UK was 0%. In the USA the number was 55%. Do what you want for yourself, but I believe Iwill keep my self defence firearm at home here in the USA.
lamanchadale 2 months ago 10
What a stupid ad. Few people in the UK and Australia have guns at home. The crime rates there are a tiny fraction of the US. Why? Please explain with reason not dumb slogans.
3558035580 2 months ago
@3558035580 The UK was voted Most Violent Country In Europe, their gun crime and firearm homicide rates have gone UP every single year for 14 straight years, and Australian crime skyrocketed when their gun laws were changed, especially when it was made illegal to defend yourself with a gun, that law let the criminals win, the politician that drafted that law needs to be hung by his balls with piano wire.
NinjaRider777R 2 months ago
@NinjaRider777R I live in Australia and what's more I am a cop. What you have written is a complete lie. Crime rates, especially gun crime rates have dropped. The politician who had the courage to get rid of guns here was John Howard - an arch conservative who was one of the world leaders who most supported George W Bush. In fact Bush called him a "man of steel". If he had the sense to see what this love of gun culture could do to a society how come you can't.
3558035580 2 months ago
@3558035580 """What you have written is a complete lie"""
usatoday com/news/opinion/2002/05/09/ncoppf.htm
From the article..."Since Australia's 1996 laws banning most guns and making it a crime to use a gun defensively, armed robberies rose by 51%, unarmed robberies by 37%, assaults by 24% and kidnappings by 43%. While murders fell by 3%, manslaughter rose by 16%."
UK Most Violent Euro Country....
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196941/The-violent-country-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Africa-U-S.html
NinjaRider777R 2 months ago
@NinjaRider777R This article you quote is from an opinion piece. Again it is a lie. This lie being spread amongst gun supporters in the US has been exposed by the Australian media before. The problem you have is that your campaign enshrines the right of law abiding citizens to have guns but also enshrines the right of the mentally deranged to have guns. A deranged man in Australia slaughtered 35 men, women and children. He was not a criminal. Please tell me how you would prevent this?
3558035580 2 months ago
@3558035580 John Lott's numbers are not "opinion", he wrote an entire book on the subject of gun control laws FAILING to stop crime all around the world.
Hard numbers don't lie, gun control FAILS.
And labeling someone as mentally deranged depends on who's doing the labeling, sane to one person is insane to another.
If someone snaps, there's no way to predict or stop that, and they'll get a gun no matter how many laws there are, Black Markets exist EVERYWHERE, that's why bans DON'T WORK.
NinjaRider777R 2 months ago
@3558035580 (Continued...)
You claiming to be a cop and not knowing about black marketsonly makes you look like a liar and an idiot.
Criminals, by definition, do NOT FOLLOW LAWS.
Anti-Gun laws do NOT effect criminals, they ONLY effect law abiding citizens, and when you take away a citizen's right to defend themselves with force, you LET THE CRIMINALS WIN.
Cohen & Felsen's studies on crime, criminals seek UNARMED EASY TARGETS, not armed ones, a REAL cop would know that....
NinjaRider777R 2 months ago
@NinjaRider777R Again the article you quote from is a lie. So much so that in 2000 our attorney general (a rightwinger) demanded the NRA stop refering to these bogus statistics and remove all references to Australia from their website. Google homicide rates in australia and have a look at some real studies. I am a real cop who doesn't want to worry every wacko I pull over can shoot me without warning. Support law and order support gun control. That's what I do. Why not you?
3558035580 2 months ago
@3558035580 Gun control does NOT stop criminals from obtaining guns, it never has, it never will.
Only 2 groups fear an armed populace, criminals and tyrants, it's very clear that you fit into the latter role, being just another tyrannical asshole who fears irrational things.
Go into any prison in your country and ask any convict if gun control laws stop them from getting guns, the answer will be NO every single time.
Wake up dumbass, gun control fails WORLD WIDE....
NinjaRider777R 2 months ago
@NinjaRider777R The evidence is clear that gun control stops gun related homicide - its quite obvious really for anyone that wants to see it. Most gun homicide is not done by criminals but by lunatics and as a result of domestic violence. Taking guns out of the tempted reach of those 2 types will save a lot of lives. You still haven't bothered to answer my intial question. Why is the gun related death figure in UK and Aust a fraction of the USA? All you can resort to is abuse and slogans. Why?
3558035580 2 months ago
@3558035580 ""gun control stops gun related homicide""
fbi gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/ crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/10tbl20.xls
fbi gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/ crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded/expandedoffensemain
1st link shows state by state homicide numbers (Vermont [loose laws] vs Cali [strict laws] is revealing)
2nd link shows firearm homicides coming DOWN for the last 5 straight years despite gun ownership rising over 500%
NinjaRider777R 2 months ago
@3558035580 """gun related death figure in UK"""
You mean the figure that's been going UP for 14 straight years in a row??
/watch?v=VyozDbg48rQ
At 2:40 "The use of weapons in crime has risen dramatically"
Newspaper headlines starting at 2:53...
"Crimes with firearms increase to 61 a day"
"Gun crime rockets 35% in last year"
"Robbery rises 14%, sex offenses 18%"
Over 300,000 illegal guns on UK streets.
The 2 criminals who broke into Tony Martin's home had 63 criminal convictions between them....
NinjaRider777R 2 months ago
@NinjaRider777R Yes and is still a small fraction of US related gun deaths. You still haven't addressed this question. If you are happy to have Columbines/ Virginia Techs etc. happening every month good luck to you and your country. I'd rather live somewhere where people can see sense on gun control. Hey and I just came home from training with our new firearms - how ironic is that! Anyway I've said all I am going to say on this. Thanks for sending a reply without abuse. All the best to you.
3558035580 2 months ago
@3558035580 You're not a cop, you're just a pathetic liar.
REAL cops know that anti-gun laws do NOT effect criminals at all, they only effect law abiding citizens.
Explain the 300,000+ illegal guns on the streets of the UK.
Explain the UK's crime rates that are HIGHER than the USA....
USA crimes per 100,000 people = 466
UK crimes per 100,000 people = 2034
Gun crime and gun death going UP every single year since the '96 handgun ban and the '88 semi-auto ban.
Again, you're not a cop, just a LIAR.
NinjaRider777R 2 months ago
@NinjaRider777R Back with the abuse. You disappoint me. Since you appear to have the figures at your fingertips put up the rates for homicide per 100000 in US, UK and Aust. then explain the difference. I know I said I wouldn't bother anymore with you but I couldn't help myself.
3558035580 2 months ago
@3558035580 Your own words....""gun control STOPS gun related homicide""....
Your numbers and the UK's numbers are going UP the more restrictive your laws get.because criminals do NOT have any problem getting guns despite your laws.
The USA's numbers are coming DOWN with more states getting rid of useless overly restrictive gun regulation.
More and more states are adopting Castle Doctrine laws, which make it LEGAL for people to defend themselves with force.
Your theory is BUSTED.
NinjaRider777R 2 months ago
@NinjaRider777R Put up the figures I asked and see how busted my theory is.
3558035580 2 months ago
@3558035580 You used the word "stops" dumbass, when the figures keep going UP instead of stopping, that means your theory is BUSTED.
If gun control actually stopped criminals from getting guns, then explain the 300,000+ illegal guns on the streets in the UK....
Explain your own Aussie biker gangs still able to get guns whenever they want.
Explain gun smuggling going UP in every single country with a gun ban.
Explain, in detail, why bans have NEVER worked to stop crime.
NinjaRider777R 2 months ago
@NinjaRider777R I hate to tell you this but putting abuse or capital letters in your statements doesn't make them true. Since you refuse to put up the statistics I asked, I'll have a go. The latest comparison I could find was 2006 - Overall murder rates per 100000 Australia 1.28, UK 2.03, USA 6.10. gun homicide rates in 2000 showed USA with almost 10 times Australian rate and over 20 times UK. 3 countries with similar cultures, shared history and the same language. Why the huge difference?
3558035580 2 months ago
@3558035580 The UK, voted Most Violent Country in Europe....
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196941/The-violent-country-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Africa-U-S.html
USA Crimes per 100,000 people = 466
UK Crimes per 100,000 people = 2,034
That's 4.37 times more crime in the UK than in the USA because UK laws have turned around backwards. Those who defend themselves from criminals get punished MORE than the criminals themselves.
It's the CRIMINAL who should be punished, not the victim.
NinjaRider777R 2 months ago 19
@3558035580 If you think its dangerous here, stay away. Problem solved.
rb2112002 1 month ago
@3558035580 And what was the overall violent crime rate for those countries? The International Crime Victims Survey states that after Australia and England & Wales, the highest prevalence of crime was in Holland (25 percent), Sweden (25 percent) and Canada (24 percent). The United States, despite its high murder rate, was among the middle ranking countries with a 21 percent victimization rate.
objectivistathlete 1 month ago
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@3558035580 "Why the huge difference?"
Why do dumbass aussie trash feel compelled to run their mouths about an American issue?
Stick to swilling your beer and beating your spouses -- the traditional aussie pastimes.
XNMR53 1 month ago
@NinjaRider777R
"UK voted worst country in europe"
That's from the DAILY MAIL. Oh god.
Newspapers AREN'T ALWAYS RIGHT, they mainly post opinions from conservative, liberal or labour perspectives.
Now, until an alien invasion/zombie invasion/illumanti reveal happens. I don't think people need guns at all.
EviceTurboMan 3 weeks ago
@EviceTurboMan The numbers are verifiable through multiple sources, deal with it LITTLE BOY.
Take your 14 year old trollish ass off the fucking internet until you learn how ton GROW THE FUCK UP.
NinjaRider777R 3 weeks ago
@NinjaRider777R
How can you tell me to grow up when you criticize the fact I'm 14?
You need to grow up mate.
EviceTurboMan 3 weeks ago
@EviceTurboMan """when you criticize the fact I'm 14"""
When you think that just because you're 14 that you know everything about everything, yet you still get EVERYTHING WRONG, that's means you're a fucking MORON who has ZERO EDUCATION on the subjects you're trying to act like an expert on.
That also means that your LACK of education in general because of your AGE is part of the fucking problem.
Time for you to WAKE THE FUCK UP little boy.
NinjaRider777R 3 weeks ago
@3558035580 yea because people going on a killing spree with a knife would never happen, it is only the evil guns that make people do bad things. Except for the guy who went on a rampage in china, killing 8 members of his family. Or the 5 mass school stabbings from March 2010 through Sept. 2011. Cops are nothing but a cleanup crew, I prefer having the right to protect myself and my family.
freedomunrestricted 2 months ago
@NinjaRider777R
Oh yeah? It was on the news a man killed himself and his family with a gun.
He was making suicide threats way before, they had the opportunity to take his gun away and prevent him for murdering and what did they do?
Nothing, let him do it.
NOW you see why Gun control is important?
EviceTurboMan 3 weeks ago
You can keep denying the FBI links all you want, but that means nothing. I take their word over yours. And no, you did not link anything to them, not ever. I proved the links you claimed were FBI were in fact fakes with my own real FBI links, which you continue to ignore. Pathetic.
Ultimaton100 2 months ago
I just can't stop laughing. You said I claimed to be 21 but my age isn't even displayed! Idiot.
Ultimaton100 2 months ago
@Ultimaton100 """but my age isn't even displayed"""
Because you just removed it coward....
NinjaRider777R 2 months ago
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@NinjaRider777R "Because you just removed it coward...."
No, because it was never there, liar.
Ultimaton100 2 months ago
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Ultimaton100 2 months ago
Clap, clap, clap. Congrats, you two succeeded in amusing me. I do enjoy comedy.
Ultimaton100 2 months ago
@MetalSights Considering all my responses have been logical and full of reason, you are wrong yet again.
Ultimaton100 2 months ago
@NinjaRider777R Actually I proved that website you linked was not the FBI. I don't claim their website is fake, just the one you linked. I never said it is illegal to fire a gun in Maryland, just in my town. I also never claimed to be 21. I am older than that and have those degrees. You are claiming I lied about things I never even said. Do you know what that means? It means you are a pathetic fool is reduced to lying about someone who is against when you can't answer their arguments.
Ultimaton100 2 months ago
@Ultimaton100 """I also never claimed to be 21."""
Your own profile says you're 21.....
God damn you're fucking pathetic....you can't even remember what you put in your posts let alone your own profile....
And you never "proved" the direct links to the FBI were fake, just because you claim they are doesn't mean jack shit in the real world....
NinjaRider777R 2 months ago
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@NinjaRider777R "Your own profile says you're 21....."
My age isn't even on my profile. I can remember what I post just fine. You on the other hand are seing things that aren't there. I did not prove direct links to the FBI were fake, I proved YOUR links were fake. I didn't just claim it, I proved it by posting the real FBI link. Multiple times.
Ultimaton100 2 months ago
@MetalSights As if you would ever defend anyone. Scum like you only look out for themselves.
Ultimaton100 2 months ago
@MetalSights The FBI knows more than either of you idiots. Which by the way has stats that disprove your claim. Gunowners cause more gun deaths, intentionaly and by accident, more so than any cop ever.
Ultimaton100 2 months ago
@Ultimaton100 """more so than any cop ever."""
/watch?v=Q2LDw5l_yMI
At 0:52 the cop kicks the unarmed man, at 1:35 cop twists neck of unarmed man, at exactly 5:00 the officer who had just handcuffed the UNARMED man and searched him to verify that he was unarmed draws his own gun and shoots the UNARMED HANDCUFFED MAN IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD.
He executed him for no reason, and he did it ON CAMERA.
NinjaRider777R 2 months ago
@NinjaRider777R I am not surprised when I saw this: That link leads to nowhere. Once again you have made up a sick, twisted lie about law enforcement and are passing it off as fact. So now you are not just a pathetic liar, you are also a sick liar.
Ultimaton100 2 months ago
@MetalSights Ah the Second Amendment. If only you understood the truth about it. Your delusions would be shattered and sent crashing down on top of you.
Ultimaton100 2 months ago
@MetalSights That sight is heavily biased. Must be why you are using it.
Ultimaton100 2 months ago
"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms,
SHALL
NOT
BE
INFRINGED.
I am not going to give up my rights, ever. You can try, it's not going to happen.
MetalSights 2 months ago
gunowners(dot)org/sk0601.htm
Again proving D.C gun laws didn't work
MetalSights 2 months ago
(Go ahead and check the other page of comments, there are more links and info for you)
MetalSights 2 months ago
lewrockwell(dot)com/orig7/lemieux1.html
MetalSights 2 months ago
England: According to the BBC News, handgun crime in the United Kingdom rose by 40% in the two years after it passed its draconian gun ban in 1997.
MetalSights 2 months ago
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MetalSights 2 months ago
Australia: Readers of the USA Today newspaper discovered in 2002 that, "Since Australia's 1996 laws banning most guns and making it a crime to use a gun defensively, armed robberies rose by 51%, unarmed robberies by 37%, assaults by 24% and kidnappings by 43%. While murders fell by 3%, manslaughter rose by 16%."2
MetalSights 2 months ago
Long before those studies, history records what happened when the Cole Younger gang of eight tried to hold up the bank in Northfield, Minnesota, in 1876. They were recognized by a citizen who sounded the alarm. The gang was shot to pieces by armed civilians as they exited the bank. Two were shot dead, two wounded, and Cole Younger was captured. It wasn’t the police but rather armed citizens who thwarted the gang’s attempt to rob the bank.
MetalSights 2 months ago
Again, according to Kleck amd Gertz, “Citizens shoot and kill more criminals than police do every year [2,819 times versus 303]” Moreover, as George Will pointed out in an article entitled “Are We a Nation of Cowards?” in the November 15, 1993, issue of Newsweek, while police have an error rate of 11 percent when it comes to the accidental shooting of innocent civilians, the armed citizens’ error rate is only 2 percent, making them five times safer than police.
More likely to be killed by cops.
MetalSights 2 months ago
/watch?v=rnTUCuZi86E&feature=related
MetalSights 2 months ago
/watch?v=j_YTM_eAWnQ
D.C gun BAN increased gun CRIME, magically of course
MetalSights 2 months ago
@MetalSights Here's the 2009 state by state firearm homicide breakdown from the FBI
www2.fbi gov/ucr/cius2009/data/table_20.html
Now go back to the 2010 links I posted earlier and see that after DC's handgun ban was lifted in 2008, their firearm homicide rate came DOWN for 2009 and 2010.
Here's another one you might like.
nytimes com/2005/06/28/politics/28scotus.html
The cops are no longer under any Constitutional Obligation to protect anyone anymore, people are better off protecting themselves.
NinjaRider777R 2 months ago
@NinjaRider777R
Pfft, what does the FBI know.
By the way you're more likely to be accidentally killed by police than a gunowner.
MetalSights 2 months ago
@MetalSights You don't need to convince me of that, I grew up near Detroit, the home of some of the most corrupt cops on the face of the planet, they'll give the LAPD a run for their money any day of the week.
NinjaRider777R 2 months ago
@NinjaRider777R Don't worry, I will promise Ultimaton100 I will not defend him with my gun incase he is in extreme danger of being attacked or mauled. I will respect his opinion.
MetalSights 2 months ago
@MetalSights Look back in the posts, he did exactly as I predicted, he said my links to the FBI's own website are fake....
He claims to be a gun owner himself, yet he never said which gun he supposedly owns, even though he claims firing a gun in Maryland (his state) is somehow illegal...
He also claims to have Master's and Bachelor's degrees at only 21 years old, yet those take 6 years each to get....
He's lied so much that he doesn't know what the truth is anymore.
NinjaRider777R 2 months ago
@NinjaRider777R I can't say I expected reason or even a logical response from him, if insults and pompousness mixed with ignorance count then he won.
MetalSights 2 months ago
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MetalSights 2 months ago
British realize their rights are being re-written
/watch?v=TkS2BRoCd2I&feature=related
MetalSights 2 months ago
@MetalSights You do not have concern for your family, you are using their lives as an excuse to own your guns for "fun". That is disgusting, placing the value of human life, especially your own flesh and blood, so low. Excuse me now, I feel the need to wash myself after talking to you.
Ultimaton100 2 months ago
@Ultimaton100 davearonson(dot)net/gun/gunpol.html
MetalSights 2 months ago
@MetalSights My arguments are secure. Neither of you have been able to put a scratch on them so far. Yes I did call you both evil and disgusting, for using your families as shields in your arguments.
Ultimaton100 2 months ago
@NinjaRider777R You know why I am going to claim they are fake? Its because of one reason. They are fake. You know it and I know it. Its that old website masking itself as the FBI you are using, not the real site. If you don't want me to expose the websites you use as fake, here is a suggestion, don't use fake websites, use the real ones like I have, if you are man enough.
Ultimaton100 2 months ago
@MetalSights I see you follow that quote close to heart then, right? You have never been able to answer my arguments and are reduced to petty insults and lies, like this other fool.
Ultimaton100 2 months ago
@NinjaRider777R Thanks again for proving my words are correct. You still have not linked anything legit. For the last time, that is NOT the FBI's site. I've linked the REAL site, which you denied. The real website showed you the exact opposite: Crime is up where more gun owners live, it is down where less are. Now that I have exposed your fake lies yet again, shall we continue, or have I whipped you enough?
Ultimaton100 2 months ago
You both are the pinnacle of people who can disgust me and make me laugh.
Ultimaton100 2 months ago
You both are pathetic fools. Filthy liars and greedy bastards. Anti-Americans, anarchists, no better than neo-Nazis. The list of whats wrong with the both of you keeps growing doesn't it?
Ultimaton100 2 months ago
@Ultimaton100
"If you cannot answer a man's argument, all it not lost; you can still call him vile names." ~Elbert Hubbard
<3
MetalSights 2 months ago
@MetalSights Tell me, do you believe everything anybody tells you? I pray you don't have any kids or plague any woman with a marriage to you if you really are that gullible. He is flat out lying and you believed it. Hook, line and sinker. Congrats, you are his new lapdog.
Ultimaton100 2 months ago
@NinjaRider777R You have NEVER posted a link to ANYTHING that meant ANYTHING, so you can shut up now. I see you are crying that old lie about me calling official sources fake. I never once called the FBI, NYTimes, Washingon Post, or any of that. Every time you repeat that lie I will expose it. I am not a troll. A troll does not present the facts to destroy futile claims, and that is what I have done. My UK crime stats are spot on, I proved it with links. Crime has gone down, like your dignity.
Ultimaton100 2 months ago
@Ultimaton100 ""You have NEVER posted a link to ANYTHING that meant ANYTHING""
fbi gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/ crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/10tbl20.xls
fbi gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/ crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded/expandedoffensemain
The FBI's own website, crime stats for 2010, as well as a 5 year table showing firearm homicides going DOWN every single year for 5 straight years while gun ownership rose over 500% in that time.
NinjaRider777R 2 months ago
@NinjaRider777R Forget it. Logic and calm reason doesn't compute well with him.
MetalSights 2 months ago
@MetalSights That's direct links to the FBI's homicide stats for 2010, I have them for 2009 as well, he'll claim that both of those links are fake, or that ANY links I post are fake, meanwhile he never posts any of his own in return yet he claims to have posted "30+ links" yet he's the ONLY one that can see them.....
He gets his information firstly from his ass, then from the Brady Campaign, and the Violence Policy Center, a site infamous for incomplete, incorrect, and biased data.
NinjaRider777R 2 months ago
@NinjaRider777R Hooray for the inability to support an argument!
I also like how he stopped and took time to call us evil and disgusting, he really cares. I'm touched
MetalSights 2 months ago
@NinjaRider777R My 30 links are clear and open for everyone to see. Its awfully convenient you claim you can't see them, because they refute your every claim and expose your every lie. I've never made a single thing up or gotten anything from Bardy or VPC. My stats are from the FBI, CIA, NCB, police reports, surveys, etc. You can keep denying their existence, but when everyone else sees them and acknowledges them the only one left looking like a sad, sorry fool is you.
Ultimaton100 2 months ago
@Ultimaton100 Nobody else has acknowledged any "links" you've posted because there haven't been any.
I just posted links to the FBI, and you ignored them and claimed your stats came from the FBI, yet no numbers you've ever posted match those links....
NinjaRider777R 2 months ago
@NinjaRider777R The only ones denying my links are you and your fellow radicals. I've gotten plenty of feedback from people who have seen and followed them. You did not post any link to the FBI. You posted a link to a fake website you are lying and claiming is the FBI, but I'm too smart to fall for it and now you are mad that I am. You have seen my FBI links, so you look even more like a pathetic loser for denying them again.
Ultimaton100 2 months ago
Yep it makes perfect sense! Take away the law-abiding citizens' guns so only the criminals...have...the... ...ummm... ...on second thought, that is a TERRIBLE idea! lol
guitboxchicken 2 months ago
Sheep merr sheep, for all you who don't want guns you need to post this sign on your house.
MrAnonymous2012 3 months ago
When it comes to lowlife scum and cowardly filth, your the pinnacle Rudy. Disgusting.
Ultimaton100 3 months ago
@Ultimaton100 Talking about yourself again???
NinjaRider777R 3 months ago
@NinjaRider777R Oh great your back? Yep, I see the slime trail behind you.
Ultimaton100 3 months ago
@Ultimaton100 Obvious Troll is Obvious....
NinjaRider777R 2 months ago
@NinjaRider777R You know who says that? Trolls.
Ultimaton100 2 months ago
Your so delusional. You actually think being armed will protect your family. I bet you didn't know most domestic crime and murder is caused by a gun already in the house. I'm a worthless piece of shit? I'm not the one using my family as an excuse to own a gun. Trash like you would just use your family as a shield if any real danger showed up. The only thing here that is worthless scum and trash is you. Your a coward, a liar, and a deranged lunatic. You will get what you deserve, soon enough.
Ultimaton100 3 months ago
@Ultimaton100 I'm homeschooled....so I'm at home 24/7.....I don't get to come home and see my stuff stolen, I'll be there when it happens, and there has been alot of breakins recently...I learn with my brothers and mother, and if some cocksucker like you kicks down my door, I'm shooting your fucking kneecap off.
Want my gun? Come take it. I dare you.
MetalSights 2 months ago
@MetalSights Keep that attitude up and you will lose your "right" to a gun, mark my words. I bet you would think of yourself as a "true patriot" for shooting someone coming to take your gun. But the second you take aim at a federal agent you would be classified as an enemy of the state, and my only regret would be that I would not be there to see you get taken down. If you wish to live as a traitor then you will die as a traitor.
Ultimaton100 2 months ago
@Ultimaton100 With more and more states adopting Castle Doctrine laws that make it 100% LEGAL for someone to defend their home with force, shooting burglars is NOT against the law.
Also, many states have said very plainly that people ARE allowed to defend themselves from LEOs who have not identified themselves.
Invade my house in the middle of the night and you'll catch a bullet between the eyes.
Armed raids have gotten more innocent people killed than they've ever saved.
NinjaRider777R 2 months ago
@NinjaRider777R "it 100% LEGAL for someone to defend their home with force, shooting burglars is NOT against the law."
Did I ever say it wasn't? And you claim I see things that don't exist...
"Armed raids have gotten more innocent people killed than they've ever saved."
You make yet another claim with no proof. So sad.
"Invade my house in the middle of the night and you'll catch a bullet between the eyes."
Don't cut yourself short. Scum like you would shoot a little girl scout.
Ultimaton100 2 months ago
@Ultimaton100 ""You make yet another claim with no proof""
Waco, Branch Davidian Compound, the local sheriff told the feds just to talk to them peacefully and everything would be fine.
The feds didn't listen, had to go in like cowboys, got their own people and the civilians killed.
Ruby Ridge, Feds went in like cowboys again when talking would have solved the problem, FBI sniper shot a woman in the face while she held her baby in her arms.
There's a recent raid where a Marine was killed by SWAT.
NinjaRider777R 2 months ago
@NinjaRider777R You are twisting the truth again. Feds tried to negotiate peacefully first, but when it was apparent that innocent lives were in danger they went in, not like cowboys, but like stealthed commandos and saved over a dozen people at the cost of some of their own. As for that second one, same thing. They went in with force only after talks failed. There was no woman shot in the face holding a baby, you flat out made that up. Very sick of you to try and paint heroes as villains.
Ultimaton100 2 months ago
@Ultimaton100 """There was no woman shot in the face holding a baby"""
Vicki Weaver, shot in the face while holding her 10 month old baby Elisheba in her arms, shot by FBI HRT Sniper Lon Horiuchi. The bullet went through her head into the chest of Kevin Harris, a friend of the Weaver family.
This was AFTER Randy Weaver was shot in the back, and after his Son was shot and his dog killed by other FBI agents.
This is all DOCUMENTED you piece of shit troll....
NinjaRider777R 2 months ago
@NinjaRider777R I did a Google search on those names.... NOTHING. Nothing came up at all. You got some nerve you know that? Making up complete lies about federal agents and even imagining fake names about fake people from your deluded little head. What really is disgusting is that you are presenting all this filthy nonsense you made up as fact. The only real piece of shit here is you, making up such terrible lies about good people. You deserve to burn in Hell.
Ultimaton100 2 months ago
@Ultimaton100 You really suck ass at searching Google, because the Ruby Ridge incident hit every major newspaper and Time Magazine when the FBI Sniper wasn't charged with murder for disobeying thew FBI Rules Of Engagement.
NinjaRider777R 2 months ago
@NinjaRider777R Actually a search of Google turns up nothing. Give it a rest scum, you made up a horrible lie and are now exposed.
Ultimaton100 2 months ago
@Ultimaton100 If they decide that rights don't mean anything, and they're defended by them and I am not. The whole point of the amendment is to PREVENT government from shoving it's cock down your throat, but you seem to get that alot already.
Next we'll remove freedom of speech. And cruel and unusual punishment. And freedom of religion. And we couldn't stop them. Hitler used his fine words and instituted gun-control in the name of "safety", then took over Europe. So do all communist countries.
MetalSights 2 months ago
@MetalSights You can tell yourself all that all you want, but that does not make it anymore true. Your little rant has about as much facts as a child's bedtime story.
Ultimaton100 2 months ago
@Ultimaton100 He's more right than you ever have been or ever will be.
Every single vote to ban music, movies, print magazines, porn, radio shows, videogames, and even the spoken word has been a DIRECT attack on the First Amendment.
The Democrats have been trying to take down the 1st for decades....
Arnold's consistent attacks on personal freedoms are one of the reasons he's no longer the Governator....
NinjaRider777R 2 months ago
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@NinjaRider777R "He's more right than you ever have been or ever will be."
He has the same accuracy as you, meaning none at all.
"The Democrats have been trying to take down the 1st for decades...."
Nope, that's the Republicans.
"Arnold's consistent attacks on personal freedoms are one of the reasons he's no longer the Governator...."
You do realize he is a right-winged politician, right?
Ultimaton100 2 months ago
@Ultimaton100 """Nope, that's the Republicans."""
/watch?v=ePQm-hxolcY
Senators Lieberman and Kohl, DEMOCRATS wanting to ban videogames, they failed miserably back in 1994, and they've failed in every single state a dozen times since then, and every single time the ban vote was started by a DEMOCRAT. It goes as high as the megadyke Billary Clinton, and her friend Tipper Gore (wife of DEMOCRAT Al Gore), former head of the PMRC that wanted to ban most music.
NinjaRider777R 2 months ago
@NinjaRider777R I had to laugh for a good five minutes after reading that. NOTHING you just said EVER happened. You made that up on the spot. It is all you can do, isn't it? Make up rediculous lies because you have no truth or facts to back you up. Just like with those fake fed raids you made up.
Ultimaton100 2 months ago
@Ultimaton100 If none of the democrat backed first amendment attacks ever happened, then explain the VIDEO EVIDENCE of it happening.....
Stupid fucking moron can't even recognize a video link when he sees one....
NinjaRider777R 2 months ago
@NinjaRider777R You made them up, so no, something you make up did not happen in real life. There is no "video evidence", period. Not recognizing something that isn't there doesn't make me a stupid moron, it makes me normal and sane.
Ultimaton100 2 months ago
@Ultimaton100 You're an idiot....
/watch?v=ePQm-hxolcY
That's a video link dipshit, it leads to the video of the 1994 Inquisition of Sega, Nintendo, and all other videogame creators based on the scenes in the SegaCD game called Night Trap.
It was started by Leiberman and Kohl, both democrats.
Both of the Clintons are Democrats as are both of the Gores.
NinjaRider777R 2 months ago
@NinjaRider777R Made up video evidence is not video evidence. That link goes NOWHERE. Know why? Because it is fake, made up, imagined. Every time you have ever claimed to back up your word with a link, this has been the case. A big fake, just like you.
Ultimaton100 2 months ago
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@Ultimaton100 The link works fine for me and everyone else on youtube, you must really suck at copy/pasting....
NinjaRider777R 2 months ago
@Ultimaton100
So what is your 100% opinion on gun control? Thousands of illegal guns are taken a year from the streets of "gun free" Britain, crime is significantly lower in areas with more gun owners, ask a criminal if he would break into a house with a gun owner inside...
I know how liberals like to blatantly ignore facts and statistics, and not answer questions that could prove them wrong, or try to change the focus, but surely a MILDLY intelligent person like yourself can not deny this.
MetalSights 2 months ago
@MetalSights You are wrong about Britain. More gun owners=more gun crime. A simple but true fact evident all over the Earth. Ever since their gun ban crime has been dropping. I think the facts speak for themselves, more so than any criminal paid to say something. You are wrong about Liberals. It is in fact Conservatives who blatantly ignore facts and statistics and not answer questions that could prove them wrong or try to change focus. Ninjarider has done all that enough times to prove it.
Ultimaton100 2 months ago
@Ultimaton100 Ahh, so just because crime rose after they banned guns means nothing. Gotcha.
Have you ever seen any of this crime? Have you been affected by it? Funny, we have 7 guns, 2 of which are assault rifles, mine has two 35 round magazines, and I'm getting another one for Christmas....a pretty double barrel for home defense. It doesn't take much to prove you wrong, but ignorance is bliss. A house was broken into down my street...they were from NY....a gun free state, not used to it here.
MetalSights 2 months ago
@MetalSights You are ignoring the evidence that crime dropped and are now lying, saying it went up? Gotcha.To be honest, it does not matter how many guns you own. Owning a gun does not make you a good person. And trying to use the lives of innocent people to justify owning such a thing is disgusting, to say the least. It doesn't take much to prove me wrong? Then why has it not happened yet? Ignorance must be bliss if you are enjoying it so much.
Ultimaton100 2 months ago
@Ultimaton100 So it's only right information when you want it to be right...well this isn't fair at all. I'll tell you, I've argued with radical cursing insane Muslims and Islamists that had better arguments that whatever you're trying to convince me.
You offer no argument other than your word and insults, claim falsities on my side and fact on yours, tell me I'm disgusting for concern for my helpless family, why I am debating with hardheaded trolls only puts me in the wrong here.
MetalSights 2 months ago
@MetalSights Actually the information is only right when it is proven to be right, backed up with legitimate sources. All you fools have to do is find something real to back up your word. Sounds pretty fair to me. I'm not trying to convince you of anything, I am simply informing you that you are wrong, but thanks for telling me you are Islamaphobic. Now I know something else wrong with you. My word has always ben backed up with links and sources. The same cannot be said for you.
Ultimaton100 2 months ago
@Ultimaton100
nraila.org/Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?id=206&issue=007
dailycaller(dot)com/2011/09/28/gun-crime-continues-to-decrease-despite-increase-in-gun-ownership/
No such thing as Islamaphobia, friend. I fear terrorism and women being killed for adultery (Sharia Law)
I would NEVER aim a firearm at someone who had no intent to hurt me or my family, shedding innocent blood like a madman...you support criminals and defenselessness, why?
MetalSights 2 months ago
@MetalSights whyguncontrol.blogspot(DOT)com/2011/09/gun-crime-continues-to-decrease-despite.html
MetalSights 2 months ago
@MetalSights You're wasting your time trying to get a logical answer from him, any direct links to stats that prove him wrong he considers to be "fake sites run by right-wing extremists" (his own words), and that includes the FBI, NYTimes, Washington Post, Google, the UK Telegraph, the UK Guardian, and many others.
He's a troll of the lowest slimey bridge dwelling type....
Oh and his UK crime stats are 100% pure bullshit, their crime never went down, it's gone UP for 14 years in a row.
NinjaRider777R 2 months ago
@NinjaRider777R He said the FBI website is fake? Well, I don't want to be around when he has kids. Or when he decides to abort those kids. Or when he has kids with his 4th wife. One of those.
MetalSights 2 months ago
You don't save civility, you have none period. I've seen your work countless times to confirm just that. I'm a joke and a plague? I'm the only one using facts and statistics, your the one making up lies because you have none yourself. You can deny what criminals did to me and my family all you want. You've always denied the truth so nothing has changed.
Ultimaton100 3 months ago
You can choose to deny my education all you want, but thats part of the reason I've been able to thwart you so easily. The other part is your just stupid. I can't present a reasonable debate? I have no facts, intelligence, or reason? Plenty of civilized people I have had discussions with will say otherwise, even pro-gunners. My vocabulary is advanced, otherwise you wouldn't be so confused at it. So you've seen me get schooled on forums? You need help, your seeing things that aren't there.
Ultimaton100 3 months ago
Little kid? Reasonable debate? Your getting ahead of yourself, scum. I'm a college graduate and there is no such thing as a reasonable debate with the likes of you. That implies being civilized, and you are far from that. So go crawl back into the hole you slithered out of, worm. I've had more than enough of filth like you.
Ultimaton100 3 months ago
@Ultimaton100 LOL "A college graduate" You're a joke is what you are. You couldn't present a reasonable debate if your life depended on it. You have zero facts, intelligence, or ability to reason. You're not even good at insults, strange because that's all you do here. There's nothing advanced about your vocabulary, thought processes, and on your best day you're not as smart as me on your worst. I don't know about your college, but I've seen you get schooled on these forums left and right.
rudygetsplenty 3 months ago
@Ultimaton100 Ultimatard
rudygetsplenty 3 months ago
Everything you just said about me I think fits you and this other trash perfectly. I've never had to fabricate anything. The truth itself is on my side. Brainless rhetorics and insults? Sorry if you don't understand my advanced vocabulary, but something that is above you is not brainless.
Ultimaton100 3 months ago
@Ultimaton100 I save my civility for people who deserve it. You're a fucking joke and a plague to this world. You're also a blatant liar "people have tried to break into my house before - that's what police are for". If somebody had actually tried to break into your house, the police could do nothing but write down what you told them, because they could never respond before the criminal did something. You're willing to completely make stuff up just to prove your idiotic point, loser.
rudygetsplenty 3 months ago
localism needs guns when federalism makes them. real farmers own guns... that is why these fake people dress up in target clothes, looking at a couple flowers in a pot and pretend to be like the rest of us... pure propaganda.. my family is full of committed gardeners/farmers and we wouldnt be doing that still if not for our guns against the federallies...
sustainable2012 3 months ago
@giantart That is not a problem, having been a soldier since the age of 17 and having been involved in many conflicts. I would have no issue with giving you a taste of the real world.
GhostDog65 3 months ago
@giantart Hmm, would be better if we just shoot you guys and enjoy life. Crooks only chase the weak titty babies, you.
GhostDog65 3 months ago
@ RichieBRckhardd, Great, I applaud you for that. There ARE MANY service members who have taken the Oathkeeper pledge who would be right there with you. Check out Oathkeepers, you too will probably take the pledge. Good luck on your service career!
whytbear1 3 months ago
Ninjarider, ever since day 1 all you have done is lie and lie and lie again. Fact and truth are two concepts that illude you completely, and it is one of many reasons you have me on the edge of my seat here laughing at you. One of the things I learned in college (a place where people go to get educated) is that I need not pity those beneath me. Not that I give a shit about you anyway.
Ultimaton100 3 months ago
@Ultimaton100 sure it could happen. after thousands of lives have been lost trying to accomplish such a task. there are hundreds of militias in the US. many FAR MORE radical thananyone on this comments section. those radicals would JUMP at the chance to start the sceond civilwar. do you know how many members of themilitary are in the NRA? I can tell you every servicemen I know would gladly stand against the military if it came to a point like that.
RichieBRckhardd 3 months ago
Richie, you need to see what happened in New Orleans after Katrina. The cops AND National Guard went door to door CONFISCATING guns from people who were defending themselves and their neighborhoods!
whytbear1 4 months ago
@whytbear1 That was a fluke! all the guys in my family are or have been in the military and would never under any ircumstances do such a thing. EVER person I've talked to about this said they would never do that. They would have to get UN troops to do it ecause so many of our armed forces would refuse to do so.I'm signing uo in a yearand I can tell you I would Refuse to do that.
RichieBRckhardd 3 months ago
People who cry for gun control are complete idiots. The only people who will lose their guns are law abiding citizens. Do they really think criminals (who use illegally obtained guns) are gonna say 'Oh, they just banned guns in this state... I better turn my weapons in' ?
Tebok73509 4 months ago 25
@Tebok73509 half the time obtained from a police station or something they broke into the steal them lmao...
Cherubim666999 2 months ago
@Cherubim666999 Thats way more accurate than you think.
About a month ago a police car was broken into, and had a couple firearms stolen and a police computer....
So, with gun control, no citizens would have firearms and the criminal that broke into the police car, do.
MetalSights 2 months ago
@MetalSights oh i know..because in ohio and west virginia ( the are i live ) they break into the police stations and swat team training areas all the time n take their stuff..because they have training gear thats less than leathal but it only takes a couple things to turn them back into real steel full autos
Cherubim666999 2 months ago
@NinjaRider777R @Ultimaton100
HEY Now, theres no point in arguing who cares what the anti gunner like Ultimaton think it's not like they can do anything about it! They'll never take the guns away! because for one thing The mlitary and police would NEVER enforce a gun ban placed by the government and two if they tried it would cause another civil war. so arguing won't make a difference ESPECIALLY on YOUTUBE. so lets all go back to watching our videos and have a good day :D
RichieBRckhardd 4 months ago
@RichieBRckhardd Gun control is the future. Public safety will previal over corrupt greed. The right-wing corporatists have twisted the truth behind the Second Amendment into something evil something that is allowing killers and drug runners to run free in the streets, and that mess will be cleansed, one way or another.
Ultimaton100 3 months ago
@Ultimaton100 """Gun control is the future."""
Considering the FACT that many states are getting rid of their gun control laws, once AGAIN you prove how completely clueless you really are.
Plus you prove how little you know about the financial side of the Hunting and Shooting Sports industries.
If you shut them both down, the economy would crash completely by losing $100 Billion Dollars per year in economy driving retail sales, tax revenues, and a dozen other fees & conservation donations.
NinjaRider777R 3 months ago
@NinjaRider777R Only the backwards states are doing away with and blocking gun legislation, like where you live. Sorry, but a handful of brainless cesspools do no speak for all of America. Other states, such as Maryland and New York, are drafting more gun legistlation as we speak. Once AGAIN you prove how completely clueless you are. Plus you show how simple-minded and gullible you are. Gun control does not mean gun ban, no matter what propaganda you've shoved down your throat.
Ultimaton100 3 months ago
@Ultimaton100 The states you call backwards are seeing their crime rates go DOWN when they loosened up gun laws, the states you praised are seeing their crime rates go UP within days of enacting more strict gun laws that do NOT effect criminals at all.
Vermont is rated the WORST by the Brady's, yet they had ZERO gun murders in 2009.
And you HAVE said many times that you want all guns banned in the past, you want to deny sales based on your gut rather than hard evidence
NinjaRider777R 3 months ago
@NinjaRider777R I could go on a long rant too, but I'll make it simple. Maybe your feeble mind will grasp it this time. You have it backwards. States wothout gun laws have the highest gun crime, those that do have the least. That Brady and Vermont crap is nonsense you have made up on the spot, typical of you. And finally, I have never said anything of the sort. The lies never end with you. I want slaes denied based on evidence, while you want convicted killers to get guns.
Ultimaton100 3 months ago
@Ultimaton100 Vermont has the loosest gun laws in the entire country, they had ZERO firearm homicides in 2009 because of it.
CommieFornia has the strictest gun laws in the entire country, and they have the MOST firearm homicides in 2009 because of it.
The FBI's numbers don't lie, you do.
NinjaRider777R 3 months ago
@NinjaRider777R As usual, your stats are WAY off, and you know it. The real state with the loosest gun laws is Texas, and they have the highest firearm homicide rate in the country. California, which you incorrecly related to communism, has one of the least. This is direct from the FBI and the National Crime Database, as I proved when you brought this up weeks ago. Your right, the FBI's numbers do not lie, but your not using the FBI's numbers. Your using made up crap.
Ultimaton100 3 months ago
@Ultimaton100 Here's the FBI's real numbers direct from their own website....
www2.fbi gov/ucr/cius2009/data/table_20.html
But you being the total fucking moron you are, you're going to claim that site is "a fake run by right wing extremists" like you did before.
CommieFornia has the highest firearm homicide numbers, not Texas.
NinjaRider777R 3 months ago
@NinjaRider777R Your right, I am going to call it a fake, because it is. That is the exact same fake website you used last month. You never learn do you? I exposed that ebsite and everything on it as a fraud a long time ago. Why aren't you using the REAL FBI site? Every time you use one of these fake websites and try to pass them off as real, you only look even more like a lying prick for doing so. As I've already proven, Texas has the highes homicide rates. Check the links if your man enough.
Ultimaton100 3 months ago
@Ultimaton100 """Check the links if your man enough."""
WHAT LINKS ? ? ?
You have NEVER posted a single link anywhere on youtube, EVER.
Post the supposedly "real" FBI site in your next post or shut the fuck up forever.
NinjaRider777R 3 months ago
@NinjaRider777R Once again, your lying is not working for you. You have 30 links from me to choose from, pick one and stop denying their existence. And I've already linked the real FBI site, its one of those many links. I've copied and pasted your link and sent it to my fellow patriots so we can all laugh at your folly. Please keep going, I like laughing.
Ultimaton100 3 months ago
@Ultimaton100 As usual you forget what you post....you've already admitted in THIS VIDEO that you've never posted any links here.
In every other video you've done the same thing.
So once again, anyone who claims to have posted SOOOOOOOO many links should not have any problem reposting even a single one.
NinjaRider777R 3 months ago
@NinjaRider777R First off, just because I have not posted any on this video does not mean I have not posted any at all, unless your stupid enough to think this one video is all of Youtube. Second, only that one other video you keep spewing your crap at me has no links of mine either. There are many videos with a grand total of 30 links of mine, and I've already explained why I won't post any more. Pick one and stop denying them already, its not working for you. Pathetic lying loser.
Ultimaton100 3 months ago
@Ultimaton100 You seem to forget that Google can see every single post you've ever made on youtube, and I've seen them ALL.
You've NEVER posted a single link, period.
Grow a pair of balls and post what you THINK the "real" FBI site is....
NinjaRider777R 3 months ago
@NinjaRider777R I highly doubt you have seen them ALL, but if you have, you are even more of an asshole for seeing all of my links AGAIN and denying them still. I posted the link to the real FBI site a long time ago. I've had my testicles for awhile by your definition. What is your excuse, lying loser?
Ultimaton100 3 months ago
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@Ultimaton100 You really are delusional, you see things that don't exist.
NinjaRider777R 3 months ago
@NinjaRider777R Can't believe you two are still going at it. LOL. I figured the moron would be back on his pills by now.
GreenSkyy87 3 months ago