Unfortunately, most of the survivors of HMS encounter who were rescued by Captain Kudo died in captivity. Allied POW's were four times more likely to survive Nazi captivity than Japanese captivity.
Moontokyo san ... I am a little bit mad tonight because of you. You said you had the "NARA" research (I doubt that, show us the link or what you found) that Japan was 'clean' (when someone invade your country take your place will you describe him 'clean' ? How clean ?). Before you can show us anything let me show you one of the 'reseaches' (you like to see research) I found. Go and search this on youtube ... Horror in the East: Japan and the Atrocities of World War II -Part 1 of 7
Hi brother, why you are still stubborn. Okay if you only buy (believe) research from US or so go and see search this 731部隊の真実 the truth of Harbin Unit 731(English Narration) 4/5 I am sure not only even takin effort on my own I can find out tons of proof of material either in viedo form or article or even someone speaking in person to prove you were wrong. Moontokyo san, be a man and face the truth. No one are asking you for apology from you here. But respect facts at least.
@victorwinbillion Aren't you a propagandist? Even If you are so, that is Okay to me.
Anyway, Unit 731 was a researchers unit, it means to be a experiment staff, one needed to have college education in minimum; however, ex-unit 731 soldier who testified that he experimented with a lot of Chinese bodies were age 21 in 1945. That is, he joined Unit 731 when he was 16 years old. No Japanese had college education with that age. He is in 中帰連 of course. GHQ could not use him either.
@moontokyo I used to believe Japanese military committing atrocities in China with these witnesses, but their poor credibility have been revealed these days and characteristics of 中帰連 soldiers become famous. It must be hard for you to doubt about what you believe, so I recommend you to visit NARA to find the truth. Good Luck!
@moontokyo Moontokyo.... no one can help you. tons of material and people to proves the history but you still have so many excuses that do not have ground at all. Okay live in your own world. Japan saved China. Satisfied ? I am working in an American comapny in HK and I needed to stay in touch with my team closely at night. I am not at all any potician nor ... 'progpaganist'. no time to do those silly things. I just want peace. And want you to respect truth. Be a man,
@victorwinbillion If you are not a propagandist, I think you need to check NARA first in order to prove your belief because It is awful thing to be being deceived by propaganda and accusing other nationality of false charge, be a descent Chinese. I've spent around 6 hours everyday in average last 2 years researching Japanese military activities during the WW2. I'm still not an expert but I've found out they were scrupulously clean. It was exact opposite of what I've learned in school.
@victorwinbillion There are a lot of researchers who devote to research true history. You need to know that China and Korea are notorious among them because these countries are the worst for not caring the truth, rather obsessed with fantasy. For example, Chinese advocate several thousand years of its history, but what excavated from ruins of 2500 years ago is Caucasian bones and these are assumed Uighur's. Needless to say that Tibet and Uighur matters are also tainting Chinese credibility too.
@moontokyo Hey, STFU, Jap, you Jap savage monkeys are the REAL liars, as you have been, throughout your history of murders, thefts, and rapes! Sink with your miserable islands, rabid monkeys!
@SuperYT4Ever Take time to find and read following 2 books. One of them is "The Wartime Journals of Charles A. Lindbergh". Second one is "Behind the news in China by Frederick Vincent Williams, 1938". First one describes how British and American behaved in the Pacific. Second one shows you what happened in China against Japanese. These two books may open your eyes, truth is pretty contrary to the wide spread propaganda. I think it would be fair to suggest books which were written by whites.
@moontokyo Please give me a link of NARA if you are really serious. Otherwise please stop lying yourself just because you love your country. If you say Japan engaged the war invading China because Japan wanted to help China better then I would not respond to you further. Beacuse I realize that I am wasting my time to talk to someone who is mentally ... ! Anyway give us truth. Otherwise stop lying. Okay ? And hopefully you are NEVER representing the majority of Japanese. U are alone.
I like Japan. I like Japanese people. But I really HATE Japanese political still trying to pretend that the war they MADE was not invasion. See how German admitted guilty. AND ... the fucking Jpanese King .... he should have joined the Kami Kaze (those silly suicide 'hero') to kill himselves ! He was fooling the people and the country ! And let the Japanese government telling lie ... we know what they have done is enough. & no more war please. Killing each other is so stupid.
@victorwinbillion I respect your feelings based on the information you seem to have. It is hard that realizing what one used to believe is propaganda. I have learned many cruel activities of Japanese military in schools and I surely believed with sadness until few years ago. As you might know old classified war crime research files by GHQ have been released to public view in NARA. Surprisingly, It become clear that Japanese military was clean. What I learned in school was propaganda.
@moontokyo Hi moontokyo. I am really curious to know more about what you learned from what you mentioned here the "research files by GHQ" . Could you tell me where I can get more info of it ? I did try to look it up on internet but was in vain.
@victorwinbillion It was 2007, 1, 27 , around 100,000 pages of classified research files against war crime of Japanese military was released in NARA of Maryland. Research group leader has commented that they couldn't find evidence of Nanking massacre taking place nor Unit 731 conducting atrocities. It is important to know that Chinese researcher was involved in this research group of course. If you know sex slave issue, the timing of this release has some value too.
@victorwinbillion There is a group of ex-Japanese soldiers called 中帰連. Their characteristics are similar in one aspect, that is, experience of Chinese prison camp. These ex-soldiers have testified atrocities, but non of them were taken seriously. For example, one of them testified that he killed Chinese civilians in Nanking by a machine gun shooting with hip, he was serious but no Japanese army had a machine gun which could be shot with hip at that time, so, GHQ could not use him.
@victorwinbillion Well, NARA database is accessible on the net, it is not sure that all files or not though. There are too many files for ordinary people to make it sure.
@moontokyo Moontokyo.... I am taking it very seriouly. I look it up and what you refers NARA here stands for National Archives and Records Administration (NARA). I do not see any report or research saying that Japan was not a war maker. Nanking massacre, ...etc. Particularly when you say Japan was 'clean' in the world (honestly i do not understand what clean you mean here. Bloody pictures were proofs.) you disclosed yourself just starting from patriotic. It would be a BIG news if wh
@victorwinbillion Okay... You and I are not right people to take any conclusion. (though I REALLY disagreed with your conclusion of .... ). You are from Japan and I am from Hongkong, where I really heard a lot of sad stories from old people who talked about what they saw in the FIRST person. I will leave it to anyone who stops by here but not from Japan or from HK or China to tell us what they think with your conclusion.... "JAPAN did nothting bad to South Asian countries in WW II."
There is so much false information about what the Japanese military did at WW2 in Asia. People in China and Korea have been taught how cruel the Japanese did to them, but they were taught with false data and through their anti-Japanese programs. Remember what Chinese leaders have been doing to their people and what S.Korea military did to Vietnam people in the Vietnam war and what Koreans in Japan did to the Japanese just after WW2. Please investigate with true materials for yourselves.
@kagomekagomeful Guy. Take it easy first as they were all the history we just needed to learn from history we need to live a better day. Back to the topic. It sounds like your ligic is ...' our army was not too bad. see you were wrose in the other war. We killed two and you killed three. See what you did...ha ha ." I would say the culture of Japan is so unique and perhaps is better than those Western. But to love their own country (Patriotic) to such an extent was just blind faith
@victorwinbillion I am victor, who posted the message a min ago. Just want to add that ... I agree with you that China also did something VERY wrong as you said here. People's eyes, as yours, are clear. What is right what is wrong we can judge even though the country (China in this case) try every way to hide or deny it. It applies to the pacific war that we are discussing here. Japan was the country that invaded others, and attacked the US navy in Hawaii. Face the facts.
As the years drift by the truth drifts away, my father served in the pacific as a Marine..This is not the emeny he spoke of..Japan doesn't even teach WW II history in their schools...
@sureeasy If you are from Japan I am very glad to hear that. You speak of the truth ... how Japan in those old days (after war) trying to hide the mistake (huge mistake) that those old and 'honor' leaders (and the king) did in the WW two. Japan at the time wanted to save the emporor system so they chose that that path to educate their people without talking the war too much. Perhaps perople from those countires suffered from the war initiated by Jpn know more than what J people know now.
Oh please! maybe this is the ONLY incident that japs have mercy.
The japs killed to no mercy. Tied heavy weights to begging sailors and throw them overboard. Japanese bushido in ww2? Bu-Shit-do.
My grandparents suffered badly under japs occupation in singapore. The scars they bear are terrible and even after the war. My grandmother's thinking is that enemies must be killed and killed far from homeland.
This clip is a desperate act by jap tv to salvage whatever reputation they have.
I suggest people go and look up some real history, The Japanese didnt have hospital ships, They just painted their cargo ships up so they wouldnt be targetted, Atop that the Japanese COMPLETELY ignored the targetting of hospital ships to begin with, Even Germany showed distaste at that
Not to troll anyone, but would these count as bushitdo?
On 5 October 1943, American naval aircraft from Yorktown raided Wake. Two days later, fearing an imminent invasion, Rear Admiral Shigematsu Sakaibara ordered the execution of the 98 captured American civilian workers remaining on the island, kept to perform forced labor.
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The Japanese submarine I-8 that killed 200 seamen on two different occasions, not to mention they attacked many merchant ships.
just because the japanese were atrocious in ww2, doesnt mean all of them were. im sure there were lots that were simpathetic japanese about their enemies. you cant say all of them were brutal. lots of soldiers didnt even want to fight, they didnt want anything to do with war.
this story is real, it happened, so stop trying to deny history
man they werent even on that life raft for so long, 2 japanese people lived on a life raft at sea for more than one year, i think like 600 some days. but nonetheless, great story
Many comments here are saying this is crap propaganda made by Japanese...and some Chinese saying Japanese did such such....these are not relates to this particuplar event. By the way, if the situation is opposit, Brit would save Japanese? I think NO.
Everything from Atomic Bomb's aim which they simply just wanted to test nuclear and chose Japan, The pearl harbor incident never happened, they made bunch of lie story of Japan History, Japan is now just being silent of every noises from brainwashed Koreans and Chinese. look "Secret history of Atomic Bomb" for reference.
The 9-11 tragedy is set up by US Govt'.
Setup for an opportunity to invade Afghanistan, and now they're also doing the same style to Iraq.
This is such crap. of course japanese MEDIA would create such documentary for JAPANESE people. They can be compared to german nazis if not worse in terms of testing biological weapons on people, dissections on living people etc. they dont even commit to half the war crimes they committed.. this is shamful. they probably paid off the white british actors.
@ssjsimon At least the Japanese performed medical experiments, the Nazis killed just because they were different. Plus, you should condemn Americans for letting the people who were in charge of the experiments go free for the information gathered from the experiments. My granduncle was drafted by the IJA and forced to fight in China. He died in a battle after the war was over. Most of the soldiers were like American soldiers. Your media screws things up too, Americans wasn't innocent!
@TheZakopolis Actually the Nazi's did perform experiments in the concentration camps on Jews, Gypsies, Russian POW's, Allied POW's, experiments that were just as cruel as what the Japanese did at Unit 731.I agree that America should have proscecuted Ishi and all the others at Unit 731. The Allied sailors captured in this battle received horrendous treatment at the Japanese POW camps. I didn't make this up, it is told by the sailors who lived through it.
@MrMike3865 and what was done in the Roosevelt camps with the mental ills in the '30s ???? And what is done in the CIA laboratories today ??????
And in the Staline goulags ????
I see you are another brainwashed sheep who believes in the myth of the "good war ", really use your brain, and try to study who were STALIN and ROOSEVELT, not better than Hitler
@CanailleChimiqueV1 Really? What you mention is all propaganda. You are a right wing loon. Actually Roosevelt was better than Stalin, Hitler, Hirohito, and the rest.
@TheZakopolis wow u cannot compare the extent of war crimes of japan and the US. Japanese were awarded for randomly killing people whereas germans killed at a mass production rate with a push of a button where the soldiers didn't know they were committing mass murders. Also in Germany its illegal to not admit to holocaust and all the war crimes they admitted.. whereas in japanese schools they dont even teach all of their war crimes, but now theyre teaching they were heroes.. which is a JOKE
@ssjsimon you can't say that the germans didn't know what they were doing? Read a book! "Night" was written by a holocaust survivor and it says that even german civilians saw them. The japanese weren't rewarded for randomly killing people, that's the dumbest thing that I've ever heard! You also can't say that calling the soldiers heroes is a joke. The soldiers from every country, especially japan, were heroes! There were German heroes, American heroes, british heroes, french heroes, Indian etc.
@TheZakopolis Your seriously basing ur facts on 1 book? go do some study. u want to argue this with whos(me) in service and has 4 generations of ancestors in service? MANY germans got away with a slap on the wrist in international court because they actually didnt know what they were doing. Go read about NANJING and how officers were competing against each other on how many chinese they can kill.LASTLY THE JAPANESE DO NOT ADMIT TO WAR CRIMES whereas germany its ILLEGAL to not admit to it
@ssjsimon who gives a fuck if you have 4 generations in service? I have ancestors who were in the IJA and IJAAF! How dare you say they aren't heroes, how dare you say we didn't admit to war crimes. WHY ARE YOU DEFENDING NAZIS!?! Also, I have read multiple books where it specifically said that the germans knew what they were doing! You wrote "Japanese were awarded for randomly killing people". IN NANJING THEY WEREN'T REWARDED FOR KILLING PEOPLE!! The "massacre" was propaganda!
@TheZakopolis Clearly u r a right winged japanese kid. ok lets forget the past and focus on present. u dont think its wrong that japanese dont teach all the war crimes they committed in schools? u dont think its wrong that they put so much effort in covering up so much of the crimes they committed..?(which people still find more and more evidence of) like i said, germans admit fully to their wrong doings. whereas japanese will not admit no matter what. isnt that wrong to u at all?
@ssjsimon Yet USA never teaches what they did in schools, like the dictatorship they set up in Iran, and how there was NO weapons of mass destruction in Iraq (their reason for invading). Also they basically teach that they didn't actually lose the vietnam and Korean wars
@TheZakopolis I suggest you read the Red Cross (the charity) holocaust figures, you will see there that the holocaust is not real and the only Jews that died starved after Allied bombs destroyed all the food and supplies. Also no mass graves were found, no bodily ash was ever found.
@d4vidD3llaR0cc0 haha you're stupid! Mass graves were found, gas chambers were found, crematories were found, thousands of records were found, survivors were found, soldiers were found, "scientists" and "doctors" were found! How can you deny!
@TheZakopolis proof please? yeah that's what I thought. Now you will show my pictures of the bodies but I can prove that it is actually soviet union gulags framed to be nazi camps.
@d4vidD3llaR0cc0 What are Soviet Union Gulags doing in Germany? Don't deny the truth. There are literally millions of recorded proof of the holocaust. People can still visit the remains of concentration camps.
@d4vidD3llaR0cc0 Look it up in any CREDIBLE book/database that has info about WWII!!! Where is your proof that concentration camps are soviet gulags??!?!?!
Exactly, so just because they saved a few British lives we are supposed to forgive them for their atrocities like the Nanking massacre? Sounds like a pathetic attempt to deny history to me.
A Japanese ship saved a few Brits, and that is supposed to make up for events like the Changjiao massacre, Manila massacre (resulted in the deaths of 100,000 civilians in the Philippines) the Sook Ching massacre (between 50,000 and 90,000 ethnic Chinese in Singapore were taken to beaches and massacred) the Kalagong massacre and the Nanking Massacre? 'This story goes to the heart of Japanese dignity'. that must be why the Japanese Navy were ordered to execute any POWs they took...
And so it goes.........the fantasy is written and re-written by historians and the press! Yes, there WERE acts of gallantry on ALL sides. Kretschmer and Langsdorf spring to mind here, but barbarism is a part of war and so is often more prevelant! We should never forget - lest it happens again - and, in my opinion, neither should we ever fully forgive.......
I have a feeling that this was wrongly subtitled and edited to confuse. Why would Japanese do that when they are clearly trying to take over Asia and attacked America because they were a threat to them?
Those Japanese were so nice that I just can't understand why we fire-bombed Tokyo and nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki? It just doesn't add up after how gracious they were to ALL of the pow's in their control. We Americans should have apologized for our atrocities at Pearl Harbor as well as that silly hiking trip in Battan. After seeing this video it is all clear to me now!
@e190snafu Yeah, they were all so nice. You are obviously ignorant to the tales I've heard from this part of the world. There was this one gruesome story of how an Australian woman was captured by the Japanese and they brutally removed her teeth one by one.
Still say Hirohito should have been tried as a war criminal, he let his officers and general staff (he made a deal with the allies) suffer the gallows, and my question which has never been answered why was his imperial palace in Tokyo "off limits" to american bombers.
@TheAlliswell He (Hirohito) also sat and presided over every war council. That alone is proof enough that he knew what was going on. But the deal made was to keep him as the figure head leader. He also had to proclaim that he wasn't a god to the Japanese people.
@akropiss I knew of a man who was my best friend's uncle who as an American, was captured in the Phillipines and spent three horrible years in a Jap POW camp. After the camp was liberated he spent months rehalibating before his family were allowed to see him. Yes, he was in bad shape. Things like this went unpunished.
@Madjarice It is unfortunate that Hungary was an ally of Germany and Poland was an ally of the US, GB, and France etc.. The Axis powers lost, Hungary was at the mercy of Stalin and he was BRUTAL and sucked all he could out of your country.
@Madjarice Hungary was allied with Nazi Germany and Facist Italy and participated in the invasion of Soviet Union which made USSR your enemy, so any punishment that you received was a direct result of being with Hitler. That had nothing to do with USA and Britian, Hungary brought that on themselves.
@KiooMyAss Um, what particular fact are you referring to? I presented you with various facts in my comment. The size of the destroyer's complement is not a matter of debate. As I say, if anything like 445 people were rescued then more than one ship's survivors were involved or there were 300+ evacuees on board! Navies routinely rescued each other's crews provided it did not hazard their ships. Nothing unusual there.The only curious aspect to this story is the number of survivors involved.
Very praiseworthy to save sailors. But if you hadn't rudely sunk their ships it would not have been necessary to rescue them. As the complement of an E class destroyer was about 145, the figure of 442 you quote is wrong or Captain Kudo rescued crews from more than one ship. No real danger in stopping his ship - no allied aircraft at all and no submarines. The biggest threat? The extra weight of all those people! Some Japanese destroyers had topweight and stability problems before the war.
I`m English, living in Osaka. J has a dreadful war crimes record, not at all known here by the locals. But they suffered enormous USAF damage. I love the people here, and they`re massive Anglophiles.
From my home town, in England, the first trains. Japs took this and made them better. I love them immensely. But if you are a Brit here, you will never, ultimately be accepted. Fine by me. English fields.
(Part1)Around December 10, which date was Japanese surrounded the Nanking city, the city was completely fallen into a state of anarchy by Chinese soldiers. The Chinese soldiers in holy terror came to be out of control and began looting. James Espy, the vice American Council at Nanking, reported to the American Embassy at Hankow concerning the aspect of the city right before the fall of Nanking as follows :
The funny thing about this video is that it is even worthy of mentioning. All over the world sailors were rescued by other nations routinely. It's only in Japan it's worth mentioning because of that country's barbaric treatment of others during the war.
(Part1)Japan doesnt need to say sorry for the false accusation which called the Nanking Massacre. The San Francisco Treaty in 1951 served officially to end WW2, to end formally Japan's position as an imperial power, and to allocate compensation to Allied civilians and former prisoners of war who had suffered the Japanese war crimes. Also, the treaty shows the allied powers and Japan will never condemn each other for performing acts during the war also.
(Part2)However, Chinese incited an American Democratic politician to establish a new Nanking Massacre Museum in the U.S. The politician has very close ties with the Chinese-American community. He received 110,000 dollars from them in 2006(Wiki). Why do they need to do such a ridiculous acts? Chinese false propaganda is still ongoing. Japan lost the war, so they apologized 16 times to China in fact. Moreover, Japan is paying ODA money instead of war compensation to China even now.
@kaito8209 Is this propoganda or simply two countries showing mutual respect. The U.S. if often un-educated when it comes to international affairs so this would do well to educate them on historical FACTS like the rape of Nanking. I did not now Japan was paying China anything.
(Part3)However, Chinese government has not told this fact to people. In war story, acts of abominable cruelty happened in every county. The My Lai Massacre was the mass murder conducted by a unit of the U.S. Army on March 16, 1968 of 347 to 504 unarmed citizens in South Vietnam, all of whom were civilians and a majority of whom were women, children (including babies) and elderly people.
@kaito8209 The men who commited the My Lai massace were summarily brought to justice. What about all the criminals and sociopaths in the Japanese imperial army? Were they brought to justics?
(Part4) Lai Daihan are people born to a South Korean father and a Vietnamese mother during the Vietnam War. The 228 Massacre was an anti-government uprising in Taiwan that began on February 27, 1947, and was violently suppressed by the Kuomintang (KMT) government. Estimates of the number of deaths vary from ten thousand to thirty thousand or more, and Tibet and Uygure problems are the same.
(Part5)Why is the CCP loudly denouncing the 'Nanking Massacre' when then had insisted on its happening more than sixty years ago, but not even clearly defined?
For a half century after WW2, Japan has kept silence even though they were falsely accused of this problem. Japan would like to break the silence for the first time, and the Japanese are asking for fair judgment from the Chinese readers.
@kaito8209 The CCP is denouncing it because Japan is denying it ever happened. If Germany was denying the holocaust they would be denounced too. However, since Germany is a responsible nation, they accepted their responsibility. Japan however, cowers in a shadow of shame and irresponsibility.
(Part6)China has no right to accuse Japan of crimes such as the Nanking Massacre because the massacre was made up story using fabricated evidence. Obviously what China says is pure fiction! Demonstration of this fake story by the Chinese government is libel and slander. It is natural that Japanese raising an objection.
@kaito8209 China is absolutely in its right to accuse and object to Japan. The Nanking massacre is not pure fiction, it is historical fact!! Maybe you should try suing China for slander and libel, let me know how that goes.
@kaito8209 Kaito, God judges everyone so there is really nothing to worry about. However, why should America apologize to Japan? Japan started the war, the U.S. finished it. Of course I know about American terror bombing. But the Japanese did their own terror bombing in China. If your planes could have reached the U.S. it would have happened there too.
@kaito8209 It is not up to the defeated nation to apologize, but the nation that started the conflict and that was Japan. The nation that used prisoners for bayonet practice and doused people with gasoline and set them afire. That's your country! I don't know about the Okinawa massacre, just about a bunch of people who ran over cliffs and commited suicide.
(Part1)Japan had no intention of starting the war against China, and immediately ordered the front army not to expand the battle beyond and cease fire swiftly and peacefully, as the Emperor Showa (Hirohito) so strongly wished. The cease-fire agreement was reached in four days. However, China broke the agreement. Japan reluctantly dispatched three more divisions on July 27 to North China. On the 29th, in the city of Tungchow (Thongzhou),
(Part2) some 250 Japanese residents were murdered by the Chinese troops, and this incident was being called the 'Tungchow Massacre'.9 In August 1937, the Japanese government formulated the peace proposal. Both the Japanese Army and Navy agreed to this peace proposal. What this proposal implied was that all the interests Japan had acquired since the Manchurian Incident should become nullified. This was indeed a drastic concession, which Japan had ever conceded.
(Part3)However, the peace negotiation between Japan and China crumbled immediately due to the incident in which two soldiers were slaughtered in Shanghai on the very day the peace negotiation started in shanghai between Japan and China. The KMT was building up their troops in great number in Shanghai. During that time, there were a large number of Japanese residents. To defend them, there was only one defending unit consisting of 4,000 combatants.
@kaito8209 What two soldiers are you talking about. Do you write your own history books for yourself? One Japanese officer was killed later on and one soldier was missing (later returned). Although no conclusive evidence exists, based on the evidence there is, Japan's militaristic attitude had much to gain and used the incident to expand into full scale war with China.
(Part4)To the Japanese unit, Chiang Kai-seki sent a numerically far superior number of troops consisting of thirty divisions on August 13. Thus, the war expanded to Shanghai. Japan organized the Shanghai Expeditionary Forces, and deployed them to Shanghai. By that time, Japan had abandoned the existing non-expansion policy.
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@kaito8209 Look, Japan's involvement with China can be traced back to the Russo-Japanese were where they gained land assests there. It has been widely documented that the Mukden incident was trumped by the Japanese planting a bomb close to, but not close enough to damage the railway. This gave the Japanese war mongers the excuse to explore aggressive military action which they wanted.
China started the war( Battle of shanghai)→Chinese government made up Nanking incident→Chaiang Kai-seki's wife broadcast gossip.→USA,Britain,Holland,China begin to put economic pressure on Japan.(ABCD包囲網)→Japan attacked Pearl harbor.
It is only natural that war started because Japan don't have resource.USA government had wanted to start the war against Japan.
@kaito8209 Ok, there is no significant evidence Chiang Kai Shek's wife started the gossip that resulted in what has been documented as the rape of Nanking. That is just ridiculous. Now, if Japan had not implemented an aggresive foreign policy, they wouldn't have had sanctions brought upon them. Japan had a choice and they chose War. And they were badly mauled as a result.
(Part2)Monition should be made here, however, that the Chinese themselves are not altogether exonerated of depredations, at least to some extent, before the entry of the Japanese. During the last few days some violations of people and property were undoubtedly committed by them. Chinese soldiers in their mad rush to discard their military uniforms and put on civilian clothes, in a number of incidents, killed civilians to obtain their clothing.
(Pat10)Moreover, Chinese victims couldnt receive any medical treatment for they had no money. Chiang Kai-shek said, You can get medical treatment for free in hospitals if you said Japanese injured you. Thats why; poor Chinese claimed we were hurt by Japanese. They told outrageous lies and false publicity. In conclusion, Japanese should tell the true history because Chinese government has publicized faked stories even now.
At least 147 of pictures were distorted by the Chinese government.
@kaito8209 What about the thousands upon thousand of newsreels and photos from outside of China. These cannot all be faked. Accept it, your country behaved as animals during the war and were punished appropriately with indiscriminant bombing.
@lindsman68 (1)Korean & Chinese & American who is always using irrational emotional sentiments.You must do a cool analysis of the history.
You are mixing everything.for example,"starved to death or worked to death in labour camps". Japanese do a cool analysis of the history. especially, about Nanking incident.Please you think more simple."Nanking massacre is Truth or Fake?" "Nanking masacre of 300,000 peoples that is impossible or possible?"
If Japan won the war→Japanese say "USA dropped an atomic bomb on OSAKA.This number of victim is 3,000,000 peoples."→You will say "NO USA didn't drop an atimoc bomb on Osaka.and We didn't kill Osaka citizens of 3,000,000 peoples."→Japanese say"Many Japanese witnessed it.and Peoples of 99% in the world who is konwing it.USA attacked municipality than 200 in Japan areas.They were indiscriminate in killing civilians.
@kaito8209 We are not even talking about civilian bombing, and I'm not supporting that. We're talking about the japanese atrocities at the rape of nanking and countless other atrocities like the Bataan death march and the treatment of POW's. Dishonourable, barbaric, and shameful.
(3)These cannot all be faked. Accept it".→You will say "Plainly Japan exaggerated the Osaka air raid."→Japanese say "USA dropped atomic bomb on Hiroshima & Nagasaki. So,USA should have done dropping atomic bomb on Osaka too."
@kaito8209 Bombings were done by Japan as well, they just didn't have the bombs the U.S. had. Would Japan have dropped an A-bomb on San Francisco if they had one? Of course. Considering the brutal atrocities commited by Japan they undoubtedly would have done whatever necessary to preserve Japan and the emperor. However, the U.S. did not engage in the type of mass civilian killings that Japan did, with bayonets or soaked in gasoline and set ablaze. Shameful barbarism=Japan during WWII
Some Americans also want to spread this propaganda.And I think they feel guilty about Nuking Hiroshima Nagasaki. So they say,"Japan was so outrageous to deserve being nuked."Conservatives in the US support this logic. They want to ease their consciences by that.The Chinese anti Japan propaganda ,combined with the American "Sense of guilt" has made the ideology of evil Japan.more widely supported.
(Part1)EX-CHINESE OFFICERS AMONG U.S. REFUGEES Colonel and His Aides Admit Blaming the Japanese for Crimes in Nanking New York Times January 4, 1938
Wireless to the New York Times. SHANGHAI, Jan. 3. American professors remaining at Ginling College in Nanking as foreign members of the Refugee Welfare Committee were seriously embarrassed to discover that they had been harboring a deserted Chinese Army colonel and six of his subordinate officers.
@kaito8209 You said this already idiot and as I have said before it does not explain all the rapes and murders in Nanjing even if this handy bit of propoganda is true, which I doubt it is.
(Part2)The professors had, in fact, made the colonel second in authority at the refugee camp. The officers, who had doffed their uniforms during the Chinese retreat from Nanking, were discovered living in one of the college buildings: They confessed their identity after Japanese Army searchers found they had hidden six rifles, five revolvers, a dismounted machine gun and ammunition in the building.
(Part3)The ex-Chinese officers in the presence of Americans and other foreigners confessed looting in Nanking and also that one night they dragged girls into the darkness and the next day blamed Japanese soldiers for the attacks. The ex-officers were arrested and will be punished under martial law and probably executed.
@kaito8209 Once again asshole, this does not explain all the rapes and murders. Also, they were brought to justice, what about the rest of the Jap criminals?
(Part4)Chinese military committed many crimes in China during the war. You know Chinese military was made up many robbers or thieves. Viewed in a historic light, civilian people have not had peaceful times because soldiers and authorities were always raped, commit a burglary and killed civilian people. For example, the 228 Massacre was an anti-government uprising in Taiwan that began on February 27, 1947 and was violently suppressed by the Kuomintang (KMT) government.
@kaito8209 The manifesto of Mao's argument emphasized making friends with locals for assistance and protection. Everybody knows this, your accusations are false, as usual. There are always incidents that happen like this in the war, so it is possible, however, nothing like on the scale of Nanking by the sub-human Japanese.
(Part5)Estimates of the number of deaths vary from ten thousand to thirty thousand or more. According a book which was written by Chinese guy many Chinese soldiers were drug abuser, and they solicited a bribe from people at that time. Needless to say, the China was a lawless country before Japan established Manchuria in 1932. Even now, Chinese military is still persecuting minorities such as Tibetan and Uygures.
@kaito8209 Oh yes, China needed you to save them and restore order. Look, China has the oldest civilization, older than yours. In fact you are likely descended from Chinese. Why would they need you people to show them how to organize a stable society. It's like the tail wagging the dog.
(Part6)3000 of armed Chinese attacked 200 Uyghur people on June, 25 2009. Only 10 Uyghurs survived. Most of ladies were raped. During the Sino-Japanese War, Chinese government announced these cruel crimes must be Japanese doing. One of the foundations of the massacre myth is based on the book which is called "What War Means", edited by Harold Timperley. But he was an advisor to the Chinese Nationalist governments Ministry of Information.
(Part7)The section was propaganda section which was established by KMT (Kuomintang, Chiang Kai-shek) in China during the War. Timperley was paid by the propaganda section for editing the book. Moreover, KMT made a lot of fake pictures which shows Japanese committed crimes. However, newest science technology found 143 pictures are edited by Chinese. You know, Chinese propaganda section created many Japanese bad rumors. This propaganda such as youtube videos is still going.
@kaito8209 Oh yes, all Chinese propoganda. What about the rest of the world? Everyone acknowledges the rape of Nanking except the Japanese. Pretty soon you assholes are going to say your act of treachery at Pearl Harbour never happened.
(Part8)Some of the photos and videos, which obviously show restoration of order in the Safety Zone immediately after the Japanese seizure of Nanking, and also the documentary films which show the Chinese citizens rushing to get ID cards. These photos and films are made by the trustworthy sources, and coincided with the witness of over 100 Japanese correspondents dispatched to Nanking then.
@kaito8209 So what? There are many films and photos of Japanese commiting atrocities and this is consistent with poor Japanese moral behaviour by their armed forces EVERYWHERE they went, not just in China. So, of course this is completely believeable.
(Part9)The majority of academic research on the Nanjing Incident is conducted in Japanese, English and Chinese. Of the three language groups, Japanese has produced the most sophisticated research, with the debate in English lagging decades behind. The most objective Chinese language materials are the collections of various primary sources, including the recollections of many of the Chinese military personnel in Nanjing.
(Part10)However, these Chinese collections show no evidence of any vigorous critical attempt to distinguish between valid primary materials and other materials: photographs, for instance, which are known to be fabricated, or from different areas and different times, continue to be used to "prove" Japanese guilt in the winter of 1937-38 at Nanjing. The Nanjing Incident Recent Research and Trends by David Askew said. The Nanking Massacre was made up story by Chinese government.
@kaito8209 I like how you lift parts of literature out of context to support your specious argument. David Askew's paper indicated the Nanking massacre indeed did happen and was not a story made up by the Chinese government. What he does say is that he doubts the Chinese totals of 300, 000 killed are accurate. Likely a 100, 000 lower. He also says Japanese argument that the incident did not happen are false.
@kaito8209 It is interesting to note that the "Rabe Diary" is an important reference source for this. He has a Nazi party member working in China and objective. In his diary he says. "
@kaito8209 In one of the houses in the narrow street behind my garden wall, a woman was raped, and then wounded in the neck with a bayonet. I managed to get an ambulance so we can take her to Kulou Hospital. (...) Last night up to 1,000 women and girls are said to have been raped, about 100 girls at Ginling Girls' College alone.
@kaito8209 You hear nothing but rape. If husbands or brothers intervene, they're shot. What you hear and see on all sides is the brutality and bestiality of the Japanese soldiers.»-A direct excerpt from the Rabe Diary.
(Part1)The American Embassy in Nanking presented the Japanese Embassy with official Report on civilian Injuries.This report found 26 incidents of murder.Out of these, only I had withnesses.This 1 murder was a legal execution.There were 17 incidents of rape.26 incidents of looting and 1 incident of arson.Added together ,this is 44 incidents over 2 months.Incidentally After the war,the Allied forces came to Hiroshima's Kure City.
(Part2)From October of 1945 to the end of the year,so for about 2 months and a half 14 people were murdered.Through August 15 of 1945 to 2 weeks later on August 30 of 1945,The American Military landed in Kanagawa Prefecture After they landed in the 1 weeks after august 30,There were 800 murders After that official release, further statistics were banned.
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@kaito8209 Once again asshole, we're talking about Nanking and your country's indiscriminant attrocities against the Chinese people there. How can you even compare the two? If Japan had won the war and occupied the U.S. there would have been outright genocide. STAY ON TOPIC!!!
@kaito8209 However, if you want to document something, what about the survival rate of POW's in Japan's death camps? The death march of Bataan. The attrocities all over the islans of the pacific. The beheadings. Using prisoners for bayonet practice. All this has been documented by all nations, not just the Chinese.
@kaito8209 Your nation's behaviour during WWII set new standards for immoral and inhuman behaviour. For you to defend it only points to your stupidity. Are you an uneducated buffoon without an original idea of his own. Flocking with the conservatives like a sheep in the herd. Shame, shame. Continue in this line of thought and China will bomb you into the stone age.
You are mixing everything."POW's ,starved to death ,worked to death in labour camps." Japanese do a cool analysis of the history. especially, about Nanking incident.Please you think more simple."Nanking massacre is Truth or Fake?" "Nanking masacre of 300,000 peoples that is impossible or possible?"
You said"These cannot all be faked."→I don't think so because Evidence of Nanking masacre that is Nothing. Knowlengs of history that will be change in the near future.
(Part9)Finally, the former Chinese government announced that the Yellow River Flood was caused by Japanese. However, about the yellow river flood, mass media in the world was dimly aware that the Chinese government was lying. Also, Chiang Kai-shek established a publicity department in his politics organization. He made a lot of fake videos and pictures. When Chiang (KMT) was in crisis, his wife came to America, and she begged the U.S.A for help. She showed many faked pictures to Americans.
@kaito8209 What about all the POW's (American, British, Canadian) that were starved to death or worked to death in labour camps. What about that Kaito? The Japanese acted in the utmost barbarity during the war which justified the bombing of Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
You are mixing everything."POW's ,starved to death ,worked to death in labour camps." Japanese do a cool analysis of the history. especially, about Nanking incident.Please you think more simple."Nanking massacre is Truth or Fake?" "Nanking masacre of 300,000 peoples that is impossible or possible?"
You said"These cannot all be faked."→I don't think so because Evidence of Nanking masacre that is Nothing. Knowlengs of history that will be change in the near future."
Unfortunately, most of the survivors of HMS encounter who were rescued by Captain Kudo died in captivity. Allied POW's were four times more likely to survive Nazi captivity than Japanese captivity.
2210ethan 1 month ago
あれ？これってジパング？
護衛艦がいるよ！
Hikaru01293210 2 months ago
Moontokyo san ... I am a little bit mad tonight because of you. You said you had the "NARA" research (I doubt that, show us the link or what you found) that Japan was 'clean' (when someone invade your country take your place will you describe him 'clean' ? How clean ?). Before you can show us anything let me show you one of the 'reseaches' (you like to see research) I found. Go and search this on youtube ... Horror in the East: Japan and the Atrocities of World War II -Part 1 of 7
victorwinbillion 3 months ago
Hi brother, why you are still stubborn. Okay if you only buy (believe) research from US or so go and see search this 731部隊の真実 the truth of Harbin Unit 731(English Narration) 4/5 I am sure not only even takin effort on my own I can find out tons of proof of material either in viedo form or article or even someone speaking in person to prove you were wrong. Moontokyo san, be a man and face the truth. No one are asking you for apology from you here. But respect facts at least.
victorwinbillion 3 months ago
@victorwinbillion Aren't you a propagandist? Even If you are so, that is Okay to me.
Anyway, Unit 731 was a researchers unit, it means to be a experiment staff, one needed to have college education in minimum; however, ex-unit 731 soldier who testified that he experimented with a lot of Chinese bodies were age 21 in 1945. That is, he joined Unit 731 when he was 16 years old. No Japanese had college education with that age. He is in 中帰連 of course. GHQ could not use him either.
moontokyo 3 months ago
@moontokyo I used to believe Japanese military committing atrocities in China with these witnesses, but their poor credibility have been revealed these days and characteristics of 中帰連 soldiers become famous. It must be hard for you to doubt about what you believe, so I recommend you to visit NARA to find the truth. Good Luck!
moontokyo 3 months ago
@moontokyo Moontokyo.... no one can help you. tons of material and people to proves the history but you still have so many excuses that do not have ground at all. Okay live in your own world. Japan saved China. Satisfied ? I am working in an American comapny in HK and I needed to stay in touch with my team closely at night. I am not at all any potician nor ... 'progpaganist'. no time to do those silly things. I just want peace. And want you to respect truth. Be a man,
victorwinbillion 3 months ago
@victorwinbillion If you are not a propagandist, I think you need to check NARA first in order to prove your belief because It is awful thing to be being deceived by propaganda and accusing other nationality of false charge, be a descent Chinese. I've spent around 6 hours everyday in average last 2 years researching Japanese military activities during the WW2. I'm still not an expert but I've found out they were scrupulously clean. It was exact opposite of what I've learned in school.
moontokyo 3 months ago
@victorwinbillion There are a lot of researchers who devote to research true history. You need to know that China and Korea are notorious among them because these countries are the worst for not caring the truth, rather obsessed with fantasy. For example, Chinese advocate several thousand years of its history, but what excavated from ruins of 2500 years ago is Caucasian bones and these are assumed Uighur's. Needless to say that Tibet and Uighur matters are also tainting Chinese credibility too.
moontokyo 3 months ago
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@moontokyo Hey, STFU, Jap, you Jap savage monkeys are the REAL liars, as you have been, throughout your history of murders, thefts, and rapes! Sink with your miserable islands, rabid monkeys!
SuperYT4Ever 2 months ago
@SuperYT4Ever Take time to find and read following 2 books. One of them is "The Wartime Journals of Charles A. Lindbergh". Second one is "Behind the news in China by Frederick Vincent Williams, 1938". First one describes how British and American behaved in the Pacific. Second one shows you what happened in China against Japanese. These two books may open your eyes, truth is pretty contrary to the wide spread propaganda. I think it would be fair to suggest books which were written by whites.
moontokyo 2 months ago
@SuperYT4Ever Also, I think you need to watch following youtube video.
Title: "An alternate look at WW1 & WW2 (P-1 of 4)"
Good luck!
moontokyo 2 months ago
@SuperYT4Ever lol. You are a complete Korean.
shiranngana 2 months ago 3
@moontokyo Please give me a link of NARA if you are really serious. Otherwise please stop lying yourself just because you love your country. If you say Japan engaged the war invading China because Japan wanted to help China better then I would not respond to you further. Beacuse I realize that I am wasting my time to talk to someone who is mentally ... ! Anyway give us truth. Otherwise stop lying. Okay ? And hopefully you are NEVER representing the majority of Japanese. U are alone.
victorwinbillion 3 months ago
@victorwinbillion I forgot to mention how to access NARA.
Google ”National Archives and Records Administration”
moontokyo 3 months ago
コメント読んでの感想。鎖国してぇ。100年前に日本の鎖国を恐喝によって無理矢理解いたアメリカを、人種差別して有色人種に発言権を認めなかったアメリカを、日本を経済封鎖して戦争に向かわせたアメリカを、原爆を投下したアメリカを戦後全ての罪を日本に負わせたアメリカを末代まで祟ってやる。
michie590 3 months ago
I like Japan. I like Japanese people. But I really HATE Japanese political still trying to pretend that the war they MADE was not invasion. See how German admitted guilty. AND ... the fucking Jpanese King .... he should have joined the Kami Kaze (those silly suicide 'hero') to kill himselves ! He was fooling the people and the country ! And let the Japanese government telling lie ... we know what they have done is enough. & no more war please. Killing each other is so stupid.
victorwinbillion 3 months ago
@victorwinbillion I respect your feelings based on the information you seem to have. It is hard that realizing what one used to believe is propaganda. I have learned many cruel activities of Japanese military in schools and I surely believed with sadness until few years ago. As you might know old classified war crime research files by GHQ have been released to public view in NARA. Surprisingly, It become clear that Japanese military was clean. What I learned in school was propaganda.
moontokyo 3 months ago
@moontokyo Hi moontokyo. I am really curious to know more about what you learned from what you mentioned here the "research files by GHQ" . Could you tell me where I can get more info of it ? I did try to look it up on internet but was in vain.
victorwinbillion 3 months ago
@victorwinbillion It was 2007, 1, 27 , around 100,000 pages of classified research files against war crime of Japanese military was released in NARA of Maryland. Research group leader has commented that they couldn't find evidence of Nanking massacre taking place nor Unit 731 conducting atrocities. It is important to know that Chinese researcher was involved in this research group of course. If you know sex slave issue, the timing of this release has some value too.
moontokyo 3 months ago 2
@moontokyo sorry moontokyo ... go search this on youtube ... 南京大虐殺の真実 Japanese ex-soldiers confessed they Committed Massacres in Nanking
victorwinbillion 3 months ago
@victorwinbillion There is a group of ex-Japanese soldiers called 中帰連. Their characteristics are similar in one aspect, that is, experience of Chinese prison camp. These ex-soldiers have testified atrocities, but non of them were taken seriously. For example, one of them testified that he killed Chinese civilians in Nanking by a machine gun shooting with hip, he was serious but no Japanese army had a machine gun which could be shot with hip at that time, so, GHQ could not use him.
moontokyo 3 months ago
@victorwinbillion Well, NARA database is accessible on the net, it is not sure that all files or not though. There are too many files for ordinary people to make it sure.
moontokyo 3 months ago
@moontokyo Moontokyo.... I am taking it very seriouly. I look it up and what you refers NARA here stands for National Archives and Records Administration (NARA). I do not see any report or research saying that Japan was not a war maker. Nanking massacre, ...etc. Particularly when you say Japan was 'clean' in the world (honestly i do not understand what clean you mean here. Bloody pictures were proofs.) you disclosed yourself just starting from patriotic. It would be a BIG news if wh
victorwinbillion 3 months ago
@victorwinbillion Okay... You and I are not right people to take any conclusion. (though I REALLY disagreed with your conclusion of .... ). You are from Japan and I am from Hongkong, where I really heard a lot of sad stories from old people who talked about what they saw in the FIRST person. I will leave it to anyone who stops by here but not from Japan or from HK or China to tell us what they think with your conclusion.... "JAPAN did nothting bad to South Asian countries in WW II."
victorwinbillion 3 months ago
There is so much false information about what the Japanese military did at WW2 in Asia. People in China and Korea have been taught how cruel the Japanese did to them, but they were taught with false data and through their anti-Japanese programs. Remember what Chinese leaders have been doing to their people and what S.Korea military did to Vietnam people in the Vietnam war and what Koreans in Japan did to the Japanese just after WW2. Please investigate with true materials for yourselves.
kagomekagomeful 3 months ago
@kagomekagomeful Guy. Take it easy first as they were all the history we just needed to learn from history we need to live a better day. Back to the topic. It sounds like your ligic is ...' our army was not too bad. see you were wrose in the other war. We killed two and you killed three. See what you did...ha ha ." I would say the culture of Japan is so unique and perhaps is better than those Western. But to love their own country (Patriotic) to such an extent was just blind faith
victorwinbillion 3 months ago
@victorwinbillion I am victor, who posted the message a min ago. Just want to add that ... I agree with you that China also did something VERY wrong as you said here. People's eyes, as yours, are clear. What is right what is wrong we can judge even though the country (China in this case) try every way to hide or deny it. It applies to the pacific war that we are discussing here. Japan was the country that invaded others, and attacked the US navy in Hawaii. Face the facts.
victorwinbillion 3 months ago
As the years drift by the truth drifts away, my father served in the pacific as a Marine..This is not the emeny he spoke of..Japan doesn't even teach WW II history in their schools...
sureeasy 4 months ago
@sureeasy If you are from Japan I am very glad to hear that. You speak of the truth ... how Japan in those old days (after war) trying to hide the mistake (huge mistake) that those old and 'honor' leaders (and the king) did in the WW two. Japan at the time wanted to save the emporor system so they chose that that path to educate their people without talking the war too much. Perhaps perople from those countires suffered from the war initiated by Jpn know more than what J people know now.
victorwinbillion 3 months ago
Of those 123 British sailors "saved", 52 survived their captivity.
theexpliotedforlife 4 months ago
Postscript
and also chrucill was really shocked about east-south asian troop all lost before USA came. it is side of WW2 history. thanks.
hebrews11jp 6 months ago
you guys really did not know whom was fighting for.they had winning experience and high trainning soldiers. like zero-sakai
they knew geneva convention.
I respected them with highest salute and Samurai Bushido spirits.thanks.
hebrews11jp 6 months ago 18
Oh please! maybe this is the ONLY incident that japs have mercy.
The japs killed to no mercy. Tied heavy weights to begging sailors and throw them overboard. Japanese bushido in ww2? Bu-Shit-do.
My grandparents suffered badly under japs occupation in singapore. The scars they bear are terrible and even after the war. My grandmother's thinking is that enemies must be killed and killed far from homeland.
This clip is a desperate act by jap tv to salvage whatever reputation they have.
frontalwind 6 months ago
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158 japanese men of a hospital ship
I suggest people go and look up some real history, The Japanese didnt have hospital ships, They just painted their cargo ships up so they wouldnt be targetted, Atop that the Japanese COMPLETELY ignored the targetting of hospital ships to begin with, Even Germany showed distaste at that
1MagicAndMayhem1 8 months ago
@1MagicAndMayhem1 Don't forget the notorious "Hellships"
theexpliotedforlife 4 months ago
Not to troll anyone, but would these count as bushitdo?
On 5 October 1943, American naval aircraft from Yorktown raided Wake. Two days later, fearing an imminent invasion, Rear Admiral Shigematsu Sakaibara ordered the execution of the 98 captured American civilian workers remaining on the island, kept to perform forced labor.
and
The Japanese submarine I-8 that killed 200 seamen on two different occasions, not to mention they attacked many merchant ships.
chinesemusicDJ 8 months ago
just because the japanese were atrocious in ww2, doesnt mean all of them were. im sure there were lots that were simpathetic japanese about their enemies. you cant say all of them were brutal. lots of soldiers didnt even want to fight, they didnt want anything to do with war.
this story is real, it happened, so stop trying to deny history
jukio02 1 year ago
man they werent even on that life raft for so long, 2 japanese people lived on a life raft at sea for more than one year, i think like 600 some days. but nonetheless, great story
jukio02 1 year ago
Long live Japan and United Kingdom.
z99h3jf 1 year ago
Chinese and Koreans.
Japanese are fed up.
jn1905 1 year ago
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ssjsimon 1 year ago
Many comments here are saying this is crap propaganda made by Japanese...and some Chinese saying Japanese did such such....these are not relates to this particuplar event. By the way, if the situation is opposit, Brit would save Japanese? I think NO.
tokyocityrat 1 year ago
What Propaganda is this!?
That was one of the most saturated acting scenes iv ever seen, I think the principle is good, however the crime down atonement is not fooling anyone
1MagicAndMayhem1 1 year ago
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US lies,
Everything from Atomic Bomb's aim which they simply just wanted to test nuclear and chose Japan, The pearl harbor incident never happened, they made bunch of lie story of Japan History, Japan is now just being silent of every noises from brainwashed Koreans and Chinese. look "Secret history of Atomic Bomb" for reference.
The 9-11 tragedy is set up by US Govt'.
Setup for an opportunity to invade Afghanistan, and now they're also doing the same style to Iraq.
Now Russia will give help.
USFullOfLies 1 year ago
This is such crap. of course japanese MEDIA would create such documentary for JAPANESE people. They can be compared to german nazis if not worse in terms of testing biological weapons on people, dissections on living people etc. they dont even commit to half the war crimes they committed.. this is shamful. they probably paid off the white british actors.
ssjsimon 1 year ago
@ssjsimon At least the Japanese performed medical experiments, the Nazis killed just because they were different. Plus, you should condemn Americans for letting the people who were in charge of the experiments go free for the information gathered from the experiments. My granduncle was drafted by the IJA and forced to fight in China. He died in a battle after the war was over. Most of the soldiers were like American soldiers. Your media screws things up too, Americans wasn't innocent!
TheZakopolis 1 year ago
@TheZakopolis Actually the Nazi's did perform experiments in the concentration camps on Jews, Gypsies, Russian POW's, Allied POW's, experiments that were just as cruel as what the Japanese did at Unit 731.I agree that America should have proscecuted Ishi and all the others at Unit 731. The Allied sailors captured in this battle received horrendous treatment at the Japanese POW camps. I didn't make this up, it is told by the sailors who lived through it.
MrMike3865 1 year ago
@MrMike3865 and what was done in the Roosevelt camps with the mental ills in the '30s ???? And what is done in the CIA laboratories today ??????
And in the Staline goulags ????
I see you are another brainwashed sheep who believes in the myth of the "good war ", really use your brain, and try to study who were STALIN and ROOSEVELT, not better than Hitler
CanailleChimiqueV1 1 year ago
@CanailleChimiqueV1 Really? What you mention is all propaganda. You are a right wing loon. Actually Roosevelt was better than Stalin, Hitler, Hirohito, and the rest.
MrMike3865 1 year ago
@TheZakopolis wow u cannot compare the extent of war crimes of japan and the US. Japanese were awarded for randomly killing people whereas germans killed at a mass production rate with a push of a button where the soldiers didn't know they were committing mass murders. Also in Germany its illegal to not admit to holocaust and all the war crimes they admitted.. whereas in japanese schools they dont even teach all of their war crimes, but now theyre teaching they were heroes.. which is a JOKE
ssjsimon 1 year ago
@ssjsimon you can't say that the germans didn't know what they were doing? Read a book! "Night" was written by a holocaust survivor and it says that even german civilians saw them. The japanese weren't rewarded for randomly killing people, that's the dumbest thing that I've ever heard! You also can't say that calling the soldiers heroes is a joke. The soldiers from every country, especially japan, were heroes! There were German heroes, American heroes, british heroes, french heroes, Indian etc.
TheZakopolis 1 year ago
@TheZakopolis Your seriously basing ur facts on 1 book? go do some study. u want to argue this with whos(me) in service and has 4 generations of ancestors in service? MANY germans got away with a slap on the wrist in international court because they actually didnt know what they were doing. Go read about NANJING and how officers were competing against each other on how many chinese they can kill.LASTLY THE JAPANESE DO NOT ADMIT TO WAR CRIMES whereas germany its ILLEGAL to not admit to it
ssjsimon 1 year ago
@ssjsimon who gives a fuck if you have 4 generations in service? I have ancestors who were in the IJA and IJAAF! How dare you say they aren't heroes, how dare you say we didn't admit to war crimes. WHY ARE YOU DEFENDING NAZIS!?! Also, I have read multiple books where it specifically said that the germans knew what they were doing! You wrote "Japanese were awarded for randomly killing people". IN NANJING THEY WEREN'T REWARDED FOR KILLING PEOPLE!! The "massacre" was propaganda!
TheZakopolis 1 year ago
@TheZakopolis Clearly u r a right winged japanese kid. ok lets forget the past and focus on present. u dont think its wrong that japanese dont teach all the war crimes they committed in schools? u dont think its wrong that they put so much effort in covering up so much of the crimes they committed..?(which people still find more and more evidence of) like i said, germans admit fully to their wrong doings. whereas japanese will not admit no matter what. isnt that wrong to u at all?
ssjsimon 1 year ago
@ssjsimon Yet USA never teaches what they did in schools, like the dictatorship they set up in Iran, and how there was NO weapons of mass destruction in Iraq (their reason for invading). Also they basically teach that they didn't actually lose the vietnam and Korean wars
d4vidD3llaR0cc0 11 months ago
@TheZakopolis I suggest you read the Red Cross (the charity) holocaust figures, you will see there that the holocaust is not real and the only Jews that died starved after Allied bombs destroyed all the food and supplies. Also no mass graves were found, no bodily ash was ever found.
d4vidD3llaR0cc0 11 months ago
@d4vidD3llaR0cc0 haha you're stupid! Mass graves were found, gas chambers were found, crematories were found, thousands of records were found, survivors were found, soldiers were found, "scientists" and "doctors" were found! How can you deny!
TheZakopolis 11 months ago
@TheZakopolis proof please? yeah that's what I thought. Now you will show my pictures of the bodies but I can prove that it is actually soviet union gulags framed to be nazi camps.
d4vidD3llaR0cc0 11 months ago
@d4vidD3llaR0cc0 What are Soviet Union Gulags doing in Germany? Don't deny the truth. There are literally millions of recorded proof of the holocaust. People can still visit the remains of concentration camps.
TheZakopolis 11 months ago
@TheZakopolis proof please?
d4vidD3llaR0cc0 11 months ago
@d4vidD3llaR0cc0 Look it up in any CREDIBLE book/database that has info about WWII!!! Where is your proof that concentration camps are soviet gulags??!?!?!
TheZakopolis 11 months ago
@TheZakopolis lol I never said that German camps ARE soviet gulags, but the pictures they used post ww2 are pictures from soviet gulags.
/watch?v=54aJHSXF1YQ
d4vidD3llaR0cc0 11 months ago
@d4vidD3llaR0cc0 Don't rely on some stupid youtube video! There are REAL pictures. Go look on some other CREDIBLE source!
TheZakopolis 10 months ago
@TheZakopolis It is not a youtube video lol, someone just put the DOCUMENTARY on youtube for the convenience
d4vidD3llaR0cc0 10 months ago
Exactly, so just because they saved a few British lives we are supposed to forgive them for their atrocities like the Nanking massacre? Sounds like a pathetic attempt to deny history to me.
Graymoths 1 year ago
Total bullshit......this vid is a lie.....those survivors of the sinking can testify to that....few survived imprisonment and torture.....
macbrack04 1 year ago
A Japanese ship saved a few Brits, and that is supposed to make up for events like the Changjiao massacre, Manila massacre (resulted in the deaths of 100,000 civilians in the Philippines) the Sook Ching massacre (between 50,000 and 90,000 ethnic Chinese in Singapore were taken to beaches and massacred) the Kalagong massacre and the Nanking Massacre? 'This story goes to the heart of Japanese dignity'. that must be why the Japanese Navy were ordered to execute any POWs they took...
MegaLolburger 1 year ago
And so it goes.........the fantasy is written and re-written by historians and the press! Yes, there WERE acts of gallantry on ALL sides. Kretschmer and Langsdorf spring to mind here, but barbarism is a part of war and so is often more prevelant! We should never forget - lest it happens again - and, in my opinion, neither should we ever fully forgive.......
Factnotfictionpeople 1 year ago
I have a feeling that this was wrongly subtitled and edited to confuse. Why would Japanese do that when they are clearly trying to take over Asia and attacked America because they were a threat to them?
pakjai 1 year ago
Those Japanese were so nice that I just can't understand why we fire-bombed Tokyo and nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki? It just doesn't add up after how gracious they were to ALL of the pow's in their control. We Americans should have apologized for our atrocities at Pearl Harbor as well as that silly hiking trip in Battan. After seeing this video it is all clear to me now!
e190snafu 1 year ago
@e190snafu Cool, an American that understands sarcasm.
MegaLolburger 1 year ago
@e190snafu Yeah, they were all so nice. You are obviously ignorant to the tales I've heard from this part of the world. There was this one gruesome story of how an Australian woman was captured by the Japanese and they brutally removed her teeth one by one.
Graymoths 1 year ago
isn't the guy on 0:40 the teacher in battle royale movie? :p
ninetalis 1 year ago
Still say Hirohito should have been tried as a war criminal, he let his officers and general staff (he made a deal with the allies) suffer the gallows, and my question which has never been answered why was his imperial palace in Tokyo "off limits" to american bombers.
TheAlliswell 1 year ago
@TheAlliswell He (Hirohito) also sat and presided over every war council. That alone is proof enough that he knew what was going on. But the deal made was to keep him as the figure head leader. He also had to proclaim that he wasn't a god to the Japanese people.
MrMike3865 1 year ago
戦艦って言わずに戦闘艦って言うところがツッコミ対策でいいね。
AriaCompany1213 1 year ago
@akropiss I knew of a man who was my best friend's uncle who as an American, was captured in the Phillipines and spent three horrible years in a Jap POW camp. After the camp was liberated he spent months rehalibating before his family were allowed to see him. Yes, he was in bad shape. Things like this went unpunished.
MrMike3865 1 year ago
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Madjarice 1 year ago
@Madjarice It is unfortunate that Hungary was an ally of Germany and Poland was an ally of the US, GB, and France etc.. The Axis powers lost, Hungary was at the mercy of Stalin and he was BRUTAL and sucked all he could out of your country.
MrMike3865 1 year ago
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Madjarice 1 year ago
How many of the crewmen who were resuced survived the war? Where were the British prisoners sent to do their slave labor for the Japanese?
MrMike3865 1 year ago
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Madjarice 1 year ago
@Madjarice Hungary was allied with Nazi Germany and Facist Italy and participated in the invasion of Soviet Union which made USSR your enemy, so any punishment that you received was a direct result of being with Hitler. That had nothing to do with USA and Britian, Hungary brought that on themselves.
MrMike3865 1 year ago
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Madjarice 1 year ago
@KiooMyAss Um, what particular fact are you referring to? I presented you with various facts in my comment. The size of the destroyer's complement is not a matter of debate. As I say, if anything like 445 people were rescued then more than one ship's survivors were involved or there were 300+ evacuees on board! Navies routinely rescued each other's crews provided it did not hazard their ships. Nothing unusual there.The only curious aspect to this story is the number of survivors involved.
littmann03 1 year ago
Very praiseworthy to save sailors. But if you hadn't rudely sunk their ships it would not have been necessary to rescue them. As the complement of an E class destroyer was about 145, the figure of 442 you quote is wrong or Captain Kudo rescued crews from more than one ship. No real danger in stopping his ship - no allied aircraft at all and no submarines. The biggest threat? The extra weight of all those people! Some Japanese destroyers had topweight and stability problems before the war.
littmann03 1 year ago
there were also a dutch,an american and australian ships that were sunk in that ambush. HMS Perth, Uss Houston and De Ruiter.
their crews were also in the water at that moment?
kearyct 1 year ago
I`m English, living in Osaka. J has a dreadful war crimes record, not at all known here by the locals. But they suffered enormous USAF damage. I love the people here, and they`re massive Anglophiles.
From my home town, in England, the first trains. Japs took this and made them better. I love them immensely. But if you are a Brit here, you will never, ultimately be accepted. Fine by me. English fields.
transonicbuoy1 1 year ago
@transonicbuoy1 From what and how you wirte here, I presume you´re not a brite.
moello888 1 year ago
I should mention, again, the simple numbers.
Captain Kudo nobly rescued 123 survivors from HMS Encounter.
Of those men, only 52 survived Japanese captivity.
2210ethan 1 year ago
(Part1)Around December 10, which date was Japanese surrounded the Nanking city, the city was completely fallen into a state of anarchy by Chinese soldiers. The Chinese soldiers in holy terror came to be out of control and began looting. James Espy, the vice American Council at Nanking, reported to the American Embassy at Hankow concerning the aspect of the city right before the fall of Nanking as follows :
kaito8209 1 year ago
The funny thing about this video is that it is even worthy of mentioning. All over the world sailors were rescued by other nations routinely. It's only in Japan it's worth mentioning because of that country's barbaric treatment of others during the war.
lindsman68 1 year ago
@lindsman68
(Part1)Japan doesnt need to say sorry for the false accusation which called the Nanking Massacre. The San Francisco Treaty in 1951 served officially to end WW2, to end formally Japan's position as an imperial power, and to allocate compensation to Allied civilians and former prisoners of war who had suffered the Japanese war crimes. Also, the treaty shows the allied powers and Japan will never condemn each other for performing acts during the war also.
kaito8209 1 year ago
@kaito8209 I am not familiar with this treaty, I would have to research it.
lindsman68 1 year ago
@lindsman68
(Part2)However, Chinese incited an American Democratic politician to establish a new Nanking Massacre Museum in the U.S. The politician has very close ties with the Chinese-American community. He received 110,000 dollars from them in 2006(Wiki). Why do they need to do such a ridiculous acts? Chinese false propaganda is still ongoing. Japan lost the war, so they apologized 16 times to China in fact. Moreover, Japan is paying ODA money instead of war compensation to China even now.
kaito8209 1 year ago
@kaito8209 Is this propoganda or simply two countries showing mutual respect. The U.S. if often un-educated when it comes to international affairs so this would do well to educate them on historical FACTS like the rape of Nanking. I did not now Japan was paying China anything.
lindsman68 1 year ago
@lindsman68
(Part3)However, Chinese government has not told this fact to people. In war story, acts of abominable cruelty happened in every county. The My Lai Massacre was the mass murder conducted by a unit of the U.S. Army on March 16, 1968 of 347 to 504 unarmed citizens in South Vietnam, all of whom were civilians and a majority of whom were women, children (including babies) and elderly people.
kaito8209 1 year ago
@kaito8209 The men who commited the My Lai massace were summarily brought to justice. What about all the criminals and sociopaths in the Japanese imperial army? Were they brought to justics?
lindsman68 1 year ago
@lindsman68
(Part4) Lai Daihan are people born to a South Korean father and a Vietnamese mother during the Vietnam War. The 228 Massacre was an anti-government uprising in Taiwan that began on February 27, 1947, and was violently suppressed by the Kuomintang (KMT) government. Estimates of the number of deaths vary from ten thousand to thirty thousand or more, and Tibet and Uygure problems are the same.
kaito8209 1 year ago
@kaito8209 This point has nothing to do with our debate. STAY ON TOPIC!!
lindsman68 1 year ago
@lindsman68
(Part5)Why is the CCP loudly denouncing the 'Nanking Massacre' when then had insisted on its happening more than sixty years ago, but not even clearly defined?
For a half century after WW2, Japan has kept silence even though they were falsely accused of this problem. Japan would like to break the silence for the first time, and the Japanese are asking for fair judgment from the Chinese readers.
kaito8209 1 year ago
@kaito8209 The CCP is denouncing it because Japan is denying it ever happened. If Germany was denying the holocaust they would be denounced too. However, since Germany is a responsible nation, they accepted their responsibility. Japan however, cowers in a shadow of shame and irresponsibility.
lindsman68 1 year ago
@lindsman68
(Part6)China has no right to accuse Japan of crimes such as the Nanking Massacre because the massacre was made up story using fabricated evidence. Obviously what China says is pure fiction! Demonstration of this fake story by the Chinese government is libel and slander. It is natural that Japanese raising an objection.
kaito8209 1 year ago 2
@kaito8209 China is absolutely in its right to accuse and object to Japan. The Nanking massacre is not pure fiction, it is historical fact!! Maybe you should try suing China for slander and libel, let me know how that goes.
lindsman68 1 year ago
@lindsman68
If you are able to,please examine that Japan apologeticed for China or didn't it.
Incidentally,Why American didn't apologize for Japan?Okinawa massacre,Tokyo massacre,Osaka massacre,Kobe Massacre,Hiroshima massare,Nagasaki massacre,etc...
Victorious Nation is everything OK? or ALMIGHTY GOD?
Defeated nation must to admit everything?
kaito8209 1 year ago
@kaito8209 Kaito, God judges everyone so there is really nothing to worry about. However, why should America apologize to Japan? Japan started the war, the U.S. finished it. Of course I know about American terror bombing. But the Japanese did their own terror bombing in China. If your planes could have reached the U.S. it would have happened there too.
lindsman68 1 year ago
@lindsman68
>Japan started the war
(answer)China started the war. because China made some signal of the war.
1937,7,7....The Marco polo Bridge incident(盧溝橋事件）
1937,7,25...Langfang Incident（廊坊事件）
1937,7,26...（広安門事件）
1937,7,29....Tungchow Mutiny（通州事件）
1937,8,13..,Battle of shanghai（第二次上海事変）
kaito8209 1 year ago
@kaito8209 It is not up to the defeated nation to apologize, but the nation that started the conflict and that was Japan. The nation that used prisoners for bayonet practice and doused people with gasoline and set them afire. That's your country! I don't know about the Okinawa massacre, just about a bunch of people who ran over cliffs and commited suicide.
lindsman68 1 year ago
@lindsman68
(Part1)Japan had no intention of starting the war against China, and immediately ordered the front army not to expand the battle beyond and cease fire swiftly and peacefully, as the Emperor Showa (Hirohito) so strongly wished. The cease-fire agreement was reached in four days. However, China broke the agreement. Japan reluctantly dispatched three more divisions on July 27 to North China. On the 29th, in the city of Tungchow (Thongzhou),
kaito8209 1 year ago
@lindsman68
(Part2) some 250 Japanese residents were murdered by the Chinese troops, and this incident was being called the 'Tungchow Massacre'.9 In August 1937, the Japanese government formulated the peace proposal. Both the Japanese Army and Navy agreed to this peace proposal. What this proposal implied was that all the interests Japan had acquired since the Manchurian Incident should become nullified. This was indeed a drastic concession, which Japan had ever conceded.
kaito8209 1 year ago
@lindsman68
(Part3)However, the peace negotiation between Japan and China crumbled immediately due to the incident in which two soldiers were slaughtered in Shanghai on the very day the peace negotiation started in shanghai between Japan and China. The KMT was building up their troops in great number in Shanghai. During that time, there were a large number of Japanese residents. To defend them, there was only one defending unit consisting of 4,000 combatants.
kaito8209 1 year ago
@kaito8209 What two soldiers are you talking about. Do you write your own history books for yourself? One Japanese officer was killed later on and one soldier was missing (later returned). Although no conclusive evidence exists, based on the evidence there is, Japan's militaristic attitude had much to gain and used the incident to expand into full scale war with China.
lindsman68 1 year ago
@lindsman68
(Part4)To the Japanese unit, Chiang Kai-seki sent a numerically far superior number of troops consisting of thirty divisions on August 13. Thus, the war expanded to Shanghai. Japan organized the Shanghai Expeditionary Forces, and deployed them to Shanghai. By that time, Japan had abandoned the existing non-expansion policy.
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kaito8209 1 year ago
@kaito8209 Look, Japan's involvement with China can be traced back to the Russo-Japanese were where they gained land assests there. It has been widely documented that the Mukden incident was trumped by the Japanese planting a bomb close to, but not close enough to damage the railway. This gave the Japanese war mongers the excuse to explore aggressive military action which they wanted.
lindsman68 1 year ago
@lindsman68
China started the war( Battle of shanghai)→Chinese government made up Nanking incident→Chaiang Kai-seki's wife broadcast gossip.→USA,Britain,Holland,China begin to put economic pressure on Japan.(ABCD包囲網)→Japan attacked Pearl harbor.
It is only natural that war started because Japan don't have resource.USA government had wanted to start the war against Japan.
kaito8209 1 year ago
@kaito8209 Ok, there is no significant evidence Chiang Kai Shek's wife started the gossip that resulted in what has been documented as the rape of Nanking. That is just ridiculous. Now, if Japan had not implemented an aggresive foreign policy, they wouldn't have had sanctions brought upon them. Japan had a choice and they chose War. And they were badly mauled as a result.
lindsman68 1 year ago
(Part2)Monition should be made here, however, that the Chinese themselves are not altogether exonerated of depredations, at least to some extent, before the entry of the Japanese. During the last few days some violations of people and property were undoubtedly committed by them. Chinese soldiers in their mad rush to discard their military uniforms and put on civilian clothes, in a number of incidents, killed civilians to obtain their clothing.
kaito8209 1 year ago
(Pat10)Moreover, Chinese victims couldnt receive any medical treatment for they had no money. Chiang Kai-shek said, You can get medical treatment for free in hospitals if you said Japanese injured you. Thats why; poor Chinese claimed we were hurt by Japanese. They told outrageous lies and false publicity. In conclusion, Japanese should tell the true history because Chinese government has publicized faked stories even now.
At least 147 of pictures were distorted by the Chinese government.
kaito8209 1 year ago
@kaito8209 What about the thousands upon thousand of newsreels and photos from outside of China. These cannot all be faked. Accept it, your country behaved as animals during the war and were punished appropriately with indiscriminant bombing.
lindsman68 1 year ago
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@lindsman68 (1)Korean & Chinese & American who is always using irrational emotional sentiments.You must do a cool analysis of the history.
You are mixing everything.for example,"starved to death or worked to death in labour camps". Japanese do a cool analysis of the history. especially, about Nanking incident.Please you think more simple."Nanking massacre is Truth or Fake?" "Nanking masacre of 300,000 peoples that is impossible or possible?"
kaito8209 1 year ago
@lindsman68
(2)Your logic is the same this.
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If Japan won the war→Japanese say "USA dropped an atomic bomb on OSAKA.This number of victim is 3,000,000 peoples."→You will say "NO USA didn't drop an atimoc bomb on Osaka.and We didn't kill Osaka citizens of 3,000,000 peoples."→Japanese say"Many Japanese witnessed it.and Peoples of 99% in the world who is konwing it.USA attacked municipality than 200 in Japan areas.They were indiscriminate in killing civilians.
kaito8209 1 year ago
@kaito8209 We are not even talking about civilian bombing, and I'm not supporting that. We're talking about the japanese atrocities at the rape of nanking and countless other atrocities like the Bataan death march and the treatment of POW's. Dishonourable, barbaric, and shameful.
lindsman68 1 year ago
@lindsman68
(3)These cannot all be faked. Accept it".→You will say "Plainly Japan exaggerated the Osaka air raid."→Japanese say "USA dropped atomic bomb on Hiroshima & Nagasaki. So,USA should have done dropping atomic bomb on Osaka too."
kaito8209 1 year ago
@kaito8209 Bombings were done by Japan as well, they just didn't have the bombs the U.S. had. Would Japan have dropped an A-bomb on San Francisco if they had one? Of course. Considering the brutal atrocities commited by Japan they undoubtedly would have done whatever necessary to preserve Japan and the emperor. However, the U.S. did not engage in the type of mass civilian killings that Japan did, with bayonets or soaked in gasoline and set ablaze. Shameful barbarism=Japan during WWII
lindsman68 1 year ago
@lindsman68
Some Americans also want to spread this propaganda.And I think they feel guilty about Nuking Hiroshima Nagasaki. So they say,"Japan was so outrageous to deserve being nuked."Conservatives in the US support this logic. They want to ease their consciences by that.The Chinese anti Japan propaganda ,combined with the American "Sense of guilt" has made the ideology of evil Japan.more widely supported.
kaito8209 1 year ago
@kaito8209 You said this already dumb dumb and it was just as weak and irellevant point then as it is now.
lindsman68 1 year ago
@lindsman68
(Part1)EX-CHINESE OFFICERS AMONG U.S. REFUGEES Colonel and His Aides Admit Blaming the Japanese for Crimes in Nanking New York Times January 4, 1938
Wireless to the New York Times. SHANGHAI, Jan. 3. American professors remaining at Ginling College in Nanking as foreign members of the Refugee Welfare Committee were seriously embarrassed to discover that they had been harboring a deserted Chinese Army colonel and six of his subordinate officers.
kaito8209 1 year ago
@kaito8209 You said this already idiot and as I have said before it does not explain all the rapes and murders in Nanjing even if this handy bit of propoganda is true, which I doubt it is.
lindsman68 1 year ago
@lindsman68
(Part2)The professors had, in fact, made the colonel second in authority at the refugee camp. The officers, who had doffed their uniforms during the Chinese retreat from Nanking, were discovered living in one of the college buildings: They confessed their identity after Japanese Army searchers found they had hidden six rifles, five revolvers, a dismounted machine gun and ammunition in the building.
kaito8209 1 year ago
@kaito8209 See below.
lindsman68 1 year ago
@lindsman68
(Part3)The ex-Chinese officers in the presence of Americans and other foreigners confessed looting in Nanking and also that one night they dragged girls into the darkness and the next day blamed Japanese soldiers for the attacks. The ex-officers were arrested and will be punished under martial law and probably executed.
kaito8209 1 year ago
@kaito8209 Once again asshole, this does not explain all the rapes and murders. Also, they were brought to justice, what about the rest of the Jap criminals?
lindsman68 1 year ago
@lindsman68
(Part4)Chinese military committed many crimes in China during the war. You know Chinese military was made up many robbers or thieves. Viewed in a historic light, civilian people have not had peaceful times because soldiers and authorities were always raped, commit a burglary and killed civilian people. For example, the 228 Massacre was an anti-government uprising in Taiwan that began on February 27, 1947 and was violently suppressed by the Kuomintang (KMT) government.
kaito8209 1 year ago
@kaito8209 The manifesto of Mao's argument emphasized making friends with locals for assistance and protection. Everybody knows this, your accusations are false, as usual. There are always incidents that happen like this in the war, so it is possible, however, nothing like on the scale of Nanking by the sub-human Japanese.
lindsman68 1 year ago
@lindsman68
(Part5)Estimates of the number of deaths vary from ten thousand to thirty thousand or more. According a book which was written by Chinese guy many Chinese soldiers were drug abuser, and they solicited a bribe from people at that time. Needless to say, the China was a lawless country before Japan established Manchuria in 1932. Even now, Chinese military is still persecuting minorities such as Tibetan and Uygures.
kaito8209 1 year ago
@kaito8209 Oh yes, China needed you to save them and restore order. Look, China has the oldest civilization, older than yours. In fact you are likely descended from Chinese. Why would they need you people to show them how to organize a stable society. It's like the tail wagging the dog.
lindsman68 1 year ago
@lindsman68
(Part6)3000 of armed Chinese attacked 200 Uyghur people on June, 25 2009. Only 10 Uyghurs survived. Most of ladies were raped. During the Sino-Japanese War, Chinese government announced these cruel crimes must be Japanese doing. One of the foundations of the massacre myth is based on the book which is called "What War Means", edited by Harold Timperley. But he was an advisor to the Chinese Nationalist governments Ministry of Information.
kaito8209 1 year ago
@kaito8209 You are contradicting yourself here idiot. Are you saying Timperley is a good source or a bad source?
lindsman68 1 year ago
@lindsman68
(Part7)The section was propaganda section which was established by KMT (Kuomintang, Chiang Kai-shek) in China during the War. Timperley was paid by the propaganda section for editing the book. Moreover, KMT made a lot of fake pictures which shows Japanese committed crimes. However, newest science technology found 143 pictures are edited by Chinese. You know, Chinese propaganda section created many Japanese bad rumors. This propaganda such as youtube videos is still going.
kaito8209 1 year ago
@kaito8209 Oh yes, all Chinese propoganda. What about the rest of the world? Everyone acknowledges the rape of Nanking except the Japanese. Pretty soon you assholes are going to say your act of treachery at Pearl Harbour never happened.
lindsman68 1 year ago
@lindsman68
(Part8)Some of the photos and videos, which obviously show restoration of order in the Safety Zone immediately after the Japanese seizure of Nanking, and also the documentary films which show the Chinese citizens rushing to get ID cards. These photos and films are made by the trustworthy sources, and coincided with the witness of over 100 Japanese correspondents dispatched to Nanking then.
kaito8209 1 year ago
@kaito8209 So what? There are many films and photos of Japanese commiting atrocities and this is consistent with poor Japanese moral behaviour by their armed forces EVERYWHERE they went, not just in China. So, of course this is completely believeable.
lindsman68 1 year ago
@lindsman68
(Part9)The majority of academic research on the Nanjing Incident is conducted in Japanese, English and Chinese. Of the three language groups, Japanese has produced the most sophisticated research, with the debate in English lagging decades behind. The most objective Chinese language materials are the collections of various primary sources, including the recollections of many of the Chinese military personnel in Nanjing.
kaito8209 1 year ago
@kaito8209 Many Japanese sources and Japanese people accept the rape of Nanking. You are an embarrassment to your country.
lindsman68 1 year ago
@lindsman68
(Part10)However, these Chinese collections show no evidence of any vigorous critical attempt to distinguish between valid primary materials and other materials: photographs, for instance, which are known to be fabricated, or from different areas and different times, continue to be used to "prove" Japanese guilt in the winter of 1937-38 at Nanjing. The Nanjing Incident Recent Research and Trends by David Askew said. The Nanking Massacre was made up story by Chinese government.
kaito8209 1 year ago
@kaito8209 I like how you lift parts of literature out of context to support your specious argument. David Askew's paper indicated the Nanking massacre indeed did happen and was not a story made up by the Chinese government. What he does say is that he doubts the Chinese totals of 300, 000 killed are accurate. Likely a 100, 000 lower. He also says Japanese argument that the incident did not happen are false.
lindsman68 1 year ago
@kaito8209 It is interesting to note that the "Rabe Diary" is an important reference source for this. He has a Nazi party member working in China and objective. In his diary he says. "
lindsman68 1 year ago
@kaito8209 In one of the houses in the narrow street behind my garden wall, a woman was raped, and then wounded in the neck with a bayonet. I managed to get an ambulance so we can take her to Kulou Hospital. (...) Last night up to 1,000 women and girls are said to have been raped, about 100 girls at Ginling Girls' College alone.
lindsman68 1 year ago
@kaito8209 You hear nothing but rape. If husbands or brothers intervene, they're shot. What you hear and see on all sides is the brutality and bestiality of the Japanese soldiers.»-A direct excerpt from the Rabe Diary.
lindsman68 1 year ago
@lindsman68
(Part1)The American Embassy in Nanking presented the Japanese Embassy with official Report on civilian Injuries.This report found 26 incidents of murder.Out of these, only I had withnesses.This 1 murder was a legal execution.There were 17 incidents of rape.26 incidents of looting and 1 incident of arson.Added together ,this is 44 incidents over 2 months.Incidentally After the war,the Allied forces came to Hiroshima's Kure City.
kaito8209 1 year ago
@lindsman68
(Part2)From October of 1945 to the end of the year,so for about 2 months and a half 14 people were murdered.Through August 15 of 1945 to 2 weeks later on August 30 of 1945,The American Military landed in Kanagawa Prefecture After they landed in the 1 weeks after august 30,There were 800 murders After that official release, further statistics were banned.
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kaito8209 1 year ago
@kaito8209 Once again asshole, we're talking about Nanking and your country's indiscriminant attrocities against the Chinese people there. How can you even compare the two? If Japan had won the war and occupied the U.S. there would have been outright genocide. STAY ON TOPIC!!!
lindsman68 1 year ago
@kaito8209 However, if you want to document something, what about the survival rate of POW's in Japan's death camps? The death march of Bataan. The attrocities all over the islans of the pacific. The beheadings. Using prisoners for bayonet practice. All this has been documented by all nations, not just the Chinese.
lindsman68 1 year ago
@kaito8209 Your nation's behaviour during WWII set new standards for immoral and inhuman behaviour. For you to defend it only points to your stupidity. Are you an uneducated buffoon without an original idea of his own. Flocking with the conservatives like a sheep in the herd. Shame, shame. Continue in this line of thought and China will bomb you into the stone age.
lindsman68 1 year ago
@kaito8209 What are you talking about retard. I didn't say or implay any of that. Lying and propoganda is your game, not mine.
lindsman68 1 year ago
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You are mixing everything."POW's ,starved to death ,worked to death in labour camps." Japanese do a cool analysis of the history. especially, about Nanking incident.Please you think more simple."Nanking massacre is Truth or Fake?" "Nanking masacre of 300,000 peoples that is impossible or possible?"
You said"These cannot all be faked."→I don't think so because Evidence of Nanking masacre that is Nothing. Knowlengs of history that will be change in the near future.
kaito8209 1 year ago
(Part9)Finally, the former Chinese government announced that the Yellow River Flood was caused by Japanese. However, about the yellow river flood, mass media in the world was dimly aware that the Chinese government was lying. Also, Chiang Kai-shek established a publicity department in his politics organization. He made a lot of fake videos and pictures. When Chiang (KMT) was in crisis, his wife came to America, and she begged the U.S.A for help. She showed many faked pictures to Americans.
kaito8209 1 year ago
@kaito8209 What about all the POW's (American, British, Canadian) that were starved to death or worked to death in labour camps. What about that Kaito? The Japanese acted in the utmost barbarity during the war which justified the bombing of Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
lindsman68 1 year ago
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@lindsman68
You are mixing everything."POW's ,starved to death ,worked to death in labour camps." Japanese do a cool analysis of the history. especially, about Nanking incident.Please you think more simple."Nanking massacre is Truth or Fake?" "Nanking masacre of 300,000 peoples that is impossible or possible?"
You said"These cannot all be faked."→I don't think so because Evidence of Nanking masacre that is Nothing. Knowlengs of history that will be change in the near future."
kaito8209 1 year ago