Ed Harris is such an underrated actor. Gene Krantz and Moss from Glengarry Glen Ross are two totally different roles but he does great in both of them.
@99thmonkee This was dramatized and wasn't the only time they burned the LM engine. First was to set the free return trajectory. The second one, shown in the movie, was PC+2 burn. The third burn was for minor course correction.
However, since you are a conspiracy theorist, there is no point explaining any of this stuff to you.
@imranite I totally agree with you. The movie dramatized the part played by Gene Kranz, although he is still my hero. But no one would watch the movie if it went into great details explaining the PC+2 burn. I absolutely detest conspiracy theorist like 99thmonkee. They have no brains and refuse to engage into serious study of modern space travel. All they do is to badmouth the greatest achievement of human adventure based on rumour. I know I sound intolerant but they should be banned here.
I remember all this when it happened. Watched every tv news and listened to the radio the rest of the time. The whole world was praying for them. I wanted to see the real thing really bad when I 1972 I was offered a couple of tickets to New York at a really silly price. Me and a freind went there and roughed it all the way down to the Cape in time to watch Apollo17 lift off. Got to meet a lot of ordinary Americans on that trip and some of the most hospitable folk I ever met in my life.
im confused can any one explain this watch?v=Y38EcMy0V7c
only 26 sec,i cannot see how a quart of water can get his feet wet for 2 days ??
and why in freezing conditions no sine of it on there breath ? would any one with a brain put there space sutes on just in case ?if on a boat would you want you life jacket on ?
Seriousness aside,, i always got a kick of out nasa engineers.. Shorts sleeved white shirts with ties.. YIKES!! What were you guys thinking! On the other hand,, they did an amazing job.
You're correct, however, Gene Kranz loved the line so much and the way it reflected the attitude about NASA at the time that he used it has the title of his autobiography in 2000.
actually Gene Kranz did say failure is not an option. they interviewed the people in the room before filming. thewhole movie is fact except when mrs. lovell lost her ring in the shower. that was the only fake part. don't you ever watch the making of apollo 13 its on the dvd dude.
Oh, wow. If you're going to try to correct me, don't get it wrong yourself. Jim Lovell's wife DID lose a ring down the drain, but was able to recover it later. Kranz never said "failure is not an option" even though he displayed excellent leadership. The whole movie is not fact - the portrayal of Swigert, some minor details here and there. Certain things that, compared with the actual mission, are technically off.
It's Hollywood and a thing called "creative license". "Based on a true story" should be called, "Loosely, very loosely based on something interesting that happened to somebody, but we got a screenwriter to punch up the drama."
I'm not saying that this movie is false, but don't take every moment of very frame as fact.
Sorry but you're misinformed. Mrs. Lovell states in the Apollo 13 commentary that she did indeed loose her ring in the shower, exactly as shown, Gene Kranz states in the commentary of his movie that "Failure is not an Option" was not his line, neither was "work the solution", but as said earlier he liked them and used it for his book.
@youvebeenthunderstru The direct quote was invented for the movie but the inspiration came from an interview with Kranz during production of the movie in which he said (about panicking staff): "No, when bad things happened, we just calmly laid out all the options, and failure was not one of them. We never panicked, and we never gave up on finding a solution."
@Kabals We still havent lost an American in space technically. The barrier of space is about 66 miles or about 350k feet. Columbia was only at 200k feet. Challenger was only at about 40k feet.
We still haven't lost an astronaut in space, Apollo1 happened on pad, Challenger was less than a minute into lift-off & Columbia was two minutes from landing. I agree that with Gene Kranz would have never hiden anything from the public, just as he took full blame for failing Apollo 1. He did as a matter of fact still work at NASA during the Challenger explosion. What amazes me about mission control in the years of "Go Fever" was they were so young! 25 yrs old & making and these decisions!
If Mission Control's average age is still 25, making those decisions then my hat is off to you and the rest! I just happen to follow Gene Kranz and John Aaron, nothing against the men and women working the teams now. I just don't have enough knowledge about the modern Mission Control. My apologizes if I offended, none intended.
Not doubting you but can't find anything to back that up. Can you help me, please. I've met him, read his book and watched his two movies on History Channel but none of that means I wouldn't have forgotten his title while at NASA during Challenger. I do remember that much, he was there during that disaster just not his title.
We've killed 4 times the amount of people orbiting the earth within the last two decades than in the rest of the space program. 80% of NASA astronauts dead were killed by that space shuttle. It breaks my heart to think that this is what we've come to.
@Mazryonh I Agree If those bloody-Ass Jerks at NASA commited the Challenger mission and ignored the below-freezing temps. If Kranz was back, It may have gone like this: He cancels the flight and asks technicians to check the shuttle when they did'nt even before liftoff.
@Mazryonh just to clarify, the Challenger and Columbia disasters resulted in deaths of the occupants at take-off and upon re-entry. They technically did not perish in space but within Earth's atmosphere. So, that statement rings true, even today.
@Jrock4real I wish someone still had his "No BS" attitude when it came to Columbia and ordered a space walk to inspect the damage. Then it would be "Houston, we have a problem" all over again, only this time they would say "I'm moving to the left wing now--Mission Control, do you copy? If we try to re-enter with this kind of damage, we'll never get home!"
Who ever holds Gene Kranz's position at NASA now, whether as flight director or higher management needs to go back to two rules they had back then, 1) the flight director has the last word, not NASA, not a business or engineers, it's the Flight Director. 2) As Mr. Kranz said to his team after Apollo 1, "it is EVERYONE in this room's fault and we must ALL take responsability." He says he wanted his team to really understand that those men's lives are in their hands. He is amazing!
Optimism is Kranz's weapon of success.
Legba85 10 months ago
I have a bumper sticker that says "Failure is not an option" from KSC
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Cosmored 11 months ago
@Dragonelis agreed
SlayerX24 11 months ago
FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION.
MultiDemon55 11 months ago
Weird, but the number 13 is associated with bad luck. Coincidence?
Dragonelis 1 year ago
Where I work, failure is always an option.
j267699 1 year ago 4
@j267699 Do you work at BP?
MrSuperTrout 1 year ago
Kranz fans! Check out a speech he made about Apollo 13. So good. /watch?v=WyZenck9WQg
corneliusfingers 1 year ago
Ed Harris is such an underrated actor. Gene Krantz and Moss from Glengarry Glen Ross are two totally different roles but he does great in both of them.
aburg10s 1 year ago
I wrote a letter to gene, I got a reply. He is my hero!
humtingify 1 year ago 4
@humtingify How did you met gene kranz ?
Skybolter 1 year ago
@Skybolter oh i diddnt meet him, But i googled his adress and found him, then sent him a letter.
humtingify 1 year ago
I love this movie and especially this scene! They found a perfect actor for Kranz's part.
JemFan4Ever 1 year ago
BRILLIANT...
silverstartrucker 1 year ago
"Failure is not an option." This is my quote and i use it regularly. Gene Kranz is my hero.
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notorioussw 1 year ago
@99thmonkee
At Paul is dead too right? :-)-
Baldenlong77 1 year ago
@99thmonkee This was dramatized and wasn't the only time they burned the LM engine. First was to set the free return trajectory. The second one, shown in the movie, was PC+2 burn. The third burn was for minor course correction.
However, since you are a conspiracy theorist, there is no point explaining any of this stuff to you.
imranite 1 year ago
@imranite I totally agree with you. The movie dramatized the part played by Gene Kranz, although he is still my hero. But no one would watch the movie if it went into great details explaining the PC+2 burn. I absolutely detest conspiracy theorist like 99thmonkee. They have no brains and refuse to engage into serious study of modern space travel. All they do is to badmouth the greatest achievement of human adventure based on rumour. I know I sound intolerant but they should be banned here.
0881benjamin 1 year ago
Exactly the work attitude everyone needs. You MUST satisfy ALL THE WAY. Don't do a half-assed job. Come on AMERICA! WE CAN BE GREAT AGAIN!!!
mitchtay99 1 year ago
this is Best Buy's Geek Squad at work.
PumaM90 1 year ago
you cant run a vacuum cleaner on 12 amps john. hahahahaha
MD132467 1 year ago
thats right. FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION!!!
xTheFormlessOneIGF1 1 year ago
When I lost my job I heard that voice in my head; "We've gotta turn everything off! Now!" when I realized I was without an income.
mitchtay99 1 year ago
"You cant run a vacuum cleaner on 12 amps john!!!"-0:46
xgamer179 1 year ago
@xgamer179 My Hoover wind tunnel is rated at exactly 12 amps.
mitchtay99 1 year ago
I remember all this when it happened. Watched every tv news and listened to the radio the rest of the time. The whole world was praying for them. I wanted to see the real thing really bad when I 1972 I was offered a couple of tickets to New York at a really silly price. Me and a freind went there and roughed it all the way down to the Cape in time to watch Apollo17 lift off. Got to meet a lot of ordinary Americans on that trip and some of the most hospitable folk I ever met in my life.
tpsossff 1 year ago
In my life failure is ALWAYS an option.
egrewing74 1 year ago 2
@egrewing74 mine too dogg which is why we're not doing important shit like they are lol
PumaM90 1 year ago
im confused can any one explain this watch?v=Y38EcMy0V7c
only 26 sec,i cannot see how a quart of water can get his feet wet for 2 days ??
and why in freezing conditions no sine of it on there breath ? would any one with a brain put there space sutes on just in case ?if on a boat would you want you life jacket on ?
kevinstuartfr0st 1 year ago
That's what a leader does. Sets high standards and doesn't accept defeat. It's how you get the most out of an already brilliant group of men.
redwingsmike3718 1 year ago
Seriousness aside,, i always got a kick of out nasa engineers.. Shorts sleeved white shirts with ties.. YIKES!! What were you guys thinking! On the other hand,, they did an amazing job.
xvoy2002 1 year ago
If Kranz were still with NASA, we'd have people on Mars by the mid 1990's.
mitchtay99 1 year ago
@mitchtay99
And the irony is that it is still like completing a 2000 piece jigg-saw puzzle for us just to put a robot on the red planet.
Bethefisher 1 year ago
My vacuum cleaner draws exactly 12 amps.
mitchtay99 1 year ago
FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION is a message of my life.
mitchtay99 1 year ago
the part at 0:10 makes me just lmao.
SpartanW98 1 year ago
'option' in 1970 meant; extra cost equipment on your new car.
It was much later when the drivel peddlers discovered and used the term.
Liozeris 1 year ago
WORD...John is the MAN!!!
krogdog 1 year ago
Yes you CAN run a vacuum cleaner on 12 amps... easily.
krsongs 1 year ago
@krsongs not in the 60s lol
86Timewarp 1 year ago
you cant run a vacuum cleaner at 12 amps lmfao
86Timewarp 1 year ago
ares is a decent rocket but it simply does not pack a punch,also it doesnt look like a clean burn,the amount of shit it spews out is unreal
hotofthegriddle 2 years ago
Is he drawing a snail?
Jtherva 2 years ago
i'm not sure why, but 0:10 just cracks me up lol
puertoricandude16 2 years ago 18
@puertoricandude16 you mean about that is not acceptable ?
Skybolter 1 year ago
I don't know. But I think he really said this. But I don't know exactly...
Thanks for uploading, it's my favourite scene. God I love Loren Dean :)
NessiMauzz 2 years ago
With all credit to Kranz, didn't he never say specifically "failure is not an option"? Wasn't that line invented for the movie?
youvebeenthunderstru 2 years ago 5
You're correct, however, Gene Kranz loved the line so much and the way it reflected the attitude about NASA at the time that he used it has the title of his autobiography in 2000.
Kabals 2 years ago 13
actually Gene Kranz did say failure is not an option. they interviewed the people in the room before filming. thewhole movie is fact except when mrs. lovell lost her ring in the shower. that was the only fake part. don't you ever watch the making of apollo 13 its on the dvd dude.
MrDavid5304 2 years ago
Oh, wow. If you're going to try to correct me, don't get it wrong yourself. Jim Lovell's wife DID lose a ring down the drain, but was able to recover it later. Kranz never said "failure is not an option" even though he displayed excellent leadership. The whole movie is not fact - the portrayal of Swigert, some minor details here and there. Certain things that, compared with the actual mission, are technically off.
youvebeenthunderstru 2 years ago
It's Hollywood and a thing called "creative license". "Based on a true story" should be called, "Loosely, very loosely based on something interesting that happened to somebody, but we got a screenwriter to punch up the drama."
I'm not saying that this movie is false, but don't take every moment of very frame as fact.
clericjack 2 years ago 3
@MrDavid5304
Sorry but you're misinformed. Mrs. Lovell states in the Apollo 13 commentary that she did indeed loose her ring in the shower, exactly as shown, Gene Kranz states in the commentary of his movie that "Failure is not an Option" was not his line, neither was "work the solution", but as said earlier he liked them and used it for his book.
Seamonkey555 1 year ago
@youvebeenthunderstru Not True! I was watching a documentary on History Channel, and they were interviewing the guy who said that. It's real.
sparklepuppy1013 1 year ago
@youvebeenthunderstru The direct quote was invented for the movie but the inspiration came from an interview with Kranz during production of the movie in which he said (about panicking staff): "No, when bad things happened, we just calmly laid out all the options, and failure was not one of them. We never panicked, and we never gave up on finding a solution."
penguinsix 1 year ago
"We've never lost an American in space"?
Please. If Kranz were still at NASA now, I doubt we would have had the Challenger and Columbia disasters.
Mazryonh 2 years ago 16
This occurred in 1970...
Kabals 2 years ago 23
Yes, but Kranz is still very much alive and still a shining example of what it takes to run a successful space program.
Maybe they should have brought him out of retirement to run the shuttle program!
Mazryonh 2 years ago
@Kabals We still havent lost an American in space technically. The barrier of space is about 66 miles or about 350k feet. Columbia was only at 200k feet. Challenger was only at about 40k feet.
schumi246 1 year ago
We still haven't lost an astronaut in space, Apollo1 happened on pad, Challenger was less than a minute into lift-off & Columbia was two minutes from landing. I agree that with Gene Kranz would have never hiden anything from the public, just as he took full blame for failing Apollo 1. He did as a matter of fact still work at NASA during the Challenger explosion. What amazes me about mission control in the years of "Go Fever" was they were so young! 25 yrs old & making and these decisions!
Seamonkey555 1 year ago
@Seamonkey555 we're still 25.....
anderson13g 1 year ago
@anderson13g
If Mission Control's average age is still 25, making those decisions then my hat is off to you and the rest! I just happen to follow Gene Kranz and John Aaron, nothing against the men and women working the teams now. I just don't have enough knowledge about the modern Mission Control. My apologizes if I offended, none intended.
Seamonkey555 1 year ago
@Kabals The first space shuttle launched in the 80s!
Doctor699 1 year ago
Kranz was there for Challenger... in fact, he was the Flight Director at the time of launch.
adamjh225 2 years ago
I think he would have learned his lesson far better than those who let the Columbia happen.
Mazryonh 2 years ago
@adamjh225
Not doubting you but can't find anything to back that up. Can you help me, please. I've met him, read his book and watched his two movies on History Channel but none of that means I wouldn't have forgotten his title while at NASA during Challenger. I do remember that much, he was there during that disaster just not his title.
Seamonkey555 1 year ago
We've killed 4 times the amount of people orbiting the earth within the last two decades than in the rest of the space program. 80% of NASA astronauts dead were killed by that space shuttle. It breaks my heart to think that this is what we've come to.
silversoftCEO 2 years ago
@silversoftCEO space shuttle was a good experiment, but its gonna end in 2010. The big rockets are coming back.
NJRocks281 2 years ago
@Mazryonh Columbia and Challenger disasters were on earth, the most dangerous part of the mission. An American has still never died in space.
NJRocks281 2 years ago
@Mazryonh he was in mission control when challenger happened, but he wasn't flight director.
EndeavourLaunch 1 year ago
@Mazryonh I Agree If those bloody-Ass Jerks at NASA commited the Challenger mission and ignored the below-freezing temps. If Kranz was back, It may have gone like this: He cancels the flight and asks technicians to check the shuttle when they did'nt even before liftoff.
CngDelta757 1 year ago
@Mazryonh technically speaking though.. no american has died in space challenger and columbia both happened in our atmosphere,
from a purely technical stand point 3 people died in space and they where cosmonauts who didn't close the door correctly.
brandtaylor93 1 year ago
@Mazryonh just to clarify, the Challenger and Columbia disasters resulted in deaths of the occupants at take-off and upon re-entry. They technically did not perish in space but within Earth's atmosphere. So, that statement rings true, even today.
Jrock4real 1 year ago
@Jrock4real I wish someone still had his "No BS" attitude when it came to Columbia and ordered a space walk to inspect the damage. Then it would be "Houston, we have a problem" all over again, only this time they would say "I'm moving to the left wing now--Mission Control, do you copy? If we try to re-enter with this kind of damage, we'll never get home!"
Mazryonh 1 year ago
@Mazryonh
Who ever holds Gene Kranz's position at NASA now, whether as flight director or higher management needs to go back to two rules they had back then, 1) the flight director has the last word, not NASA, not a business or engineers, it's the Flight Director. 2) As Mr. Kranz said to his team after Apollo 1, "it is EVERYONE in this room's fault and we must ALL take responsability." He says he wanted his team to really understand that those men's lives are in their hands. He is amazing!
Seamonkey555 1 year ago
@Mazryonh
both accidents were occured within the earth's atmosphere, so the statement's still valid today
volante8657 1 year ago
@Mazryonh I know this is a year old but Gene Kranz was on during the Challenger disaster. He was there. I dont know if he was the commander.
stache34 1 year ago
Failure is *NOT* an option!
graykin22 2 years ago