Maili Beach is a near offshore dump site in Hawaii on the island of Oahu. We just had a meeting on plausible cleanup. They denied it was dangerous, and chemical contaminats. First they said their was no land aresenal for disposal. However after their cleanup they intend to place these ordinace on land. Yup, it didn't make sense to me either. So, even if we start to clean up we will contaminat the land. But first after the Army empties its contents back into the ocean which is near shore.
While this is a concern there is the issue of balancing risk.
If these chemical weapons are stored on land then there is a high chance humans are nearby if there is a leak. But deep underwater if there is a leak there will be an incredible dilution factor plus likely no humans near by.
A good follow up would be to try determining the effect of mustard chemicals on fish stocks after being diluted in trillions of litres of water and if there is any significant risk at all.
This is why we have to look at the details and will not jump so quickly to "we're all dooooomed, the seas are poisoned by chemical weapons!" but nor will I ignore it.
Old mines are a consideration but there are still many practicality issues.
I was criticising this video for not being thorough enough, it is easy to say "oooh, that doesn't seem so nice" but ultimately useless.
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EdizS100 2 months ago
Maili Beach is a near offshore dump site in Hawaii on the island of Oahu. We just had a meeting on plausible cleanup. They denied it was dangerous, and chemical contaminats. First they said their was no land aresenal for disposal. However after their cleanup they intend to place these ordinace on land. Yup, it didn't make sense to me either. So, even if we start to clean up we will contaminat the land. But first after the Army empties its contents back into the ocean which is near shore.
KaohiWaianae 8 months ago
While this is a concern there is the issue of balancing risk.
If these chemical weapons are stored on land then there is a high chance humans are nearby if there is a leak. But deep underwater if there is a leak there will be an incredible dilution factor plus likely no humans near by.
A good follow up would be to try determining the effect of mustard chemicals on fish stocks after being diluted in trillions of litres of water and if there is any significant risk at all.
Treblaine 2 years ago
What about sarin; cyanide compounds; anthrax and such?
I think that storing these CW's in old mines as an example is more controlled than dumping it in the seas and oceans.
We may think: out of harms way but fish are eaten by humans.
What will happen in the future with these CW's? over 100 or 150 years from now?
sarcophyllus 2 years ago 2
This is why we have to look at the details and will not jump so quickly to "we're all dooooomed, the seas are poisoned by chemical weapons!" but nor will I ignore it.
Old mines are a consideration but there are still many practicality issues.
I was criticising this video for not being thorough enough, it is easy to say "oooh, that doesn't seem so nice" but ultimately useless.
Treblaine 2 years ago
Good point.
The containers of the C.W.'s will inevitabley decay and destroy the plancton - thus destroying the entire biological life cycle. Mental!
Don't concern yourself over that though, focus on getting rid of one of the four major life dependent gases, carbon di-oxide. lol.
zealotnut 2 years ago 2