PLEASE...where can we get a BACH bow shaped like this to learn to play on ALL FOUR STRINGS AGAIN!! How did we EVER let this bow become extinct! I hear a Russian play with one that collapsed onto all string while in college majoring in violin. I have searched for one for 40 years since. We have GOT to start manufacturing and playing with this bow again, alongside our new invention. I thought I was listening to an ORGAN at that concert. I have never forgotten what his violin sounded like.
This is a very big effort in cello playing and interpretation of the pieces by Johann Sebastian Bach! I enjoyed also very much the other movements of the Suite in D major played by Michael Bach with his curved bow. Gratulation!
This bow has absolutely no connection to historical authenticity, but hey. I'm actually surpsied I even found this video. Most people have discarded this theoretical bow.
Look at the title of the video, "the polyphonic cello". This is not a period bow at all. The Bachbogen (Bach bow) is a modern invention intended for simultaneously playing several strings. For a more dramatic demonstration, watch this other video: "The Polyphonic Cello: Burkard Weber (1)". Here we can see another version of this bow, which can either tighten (0:01) or loosen (0:35) the hairs. Anyway, you can purchase a bow like the one of Michael Bach in the Bach.Bogen website.
I'm no authority on historic instruments, but I have to say that this bow looks a lot like bows I've seen in 17th and 18th century paintings and engravings.
Maybe that's where the bow maker got the idea for the design?
"Most people", by which I assume you mean "most string players", play all music of all periods on late 19th century instruments, or instruments modeled after those.
Actually that's exactly where the maker got his inspiration from. Guy's last name was Vega I think.
The problem is though that there are no surviving historical bows that resemble this. And paintings and Art from that era in general, particularily those revoloving around things like the sense of hearing and music tend to be quite stylized.
I think, there are so many interpretations of these Suites, also transcriptions for other instruments...why shouldn't it be allowed to change the bow of the cello in order to achieve a new way of playing these pieces? I'm sure, we don't know how these pieces where played in Bach's time. We even know less how Bach wanted them to be played. But this is not very important. Interpretation has to change any time.
The tired old "we can't know so let's play them any way we like" attitude that rejects the insights of research and scholarship and prefers to wallow in ignorance and play all music of all periods on late-19th century instruments and with late-Romantic notions of intepretation.
What I said was just an opinion. I agree it's a new way, but it is very disrespectful to Bach and the period performances. Of course there is no way to go back 300 years and play these suites the way Bach wanted them to. The purpose I think is to get close touch with Bach's feelings. However by playing these romantically, I THINK you can never grasp Bach's true understandings. The question of likes and dislikes is dependent on philosophy of sound alone and that's why I said it as an opinion.
It's nice talking with you. There are thousands of interpretations of the Suites for cello - and even more opinions. Why? Because there is no recepy to play them - and if so, this would be "the last word", that is to say the END of the discussion.
Historically informed performances (and I'm not suggesting that this is one of those) are not trying "grasp Bach's understandings" -- that is a 19th century notion.
What they are to do is get as close as possible to the sound of the instruments and performance practices of Bach time.
Don't like the style of playing but what a very nice tone. I'm trying to imagine holding that bow. Wouldn't it be hard to grab? I saw your other video and it seemed like you have to push up to tighten the bow hair. Correct me if I'm wrong.
PLEASE...where can we get a BACH bow shaped like this to learn to play on ALL FOUR STRINGS AGAIN!! How did we EVER let this bow become extinct! I hear a Russian play with one that collapsed onto all string while in college majoring in violin. I have searched for one for 40 years since. We have GOT to start manufacturing and playing with this bow again, alongside our new invention. I thought I was listening to an ORGAN at that concert. I have never forgotten what his violin sounded like.
Hoosierfiddler 6 days ago
Is this a jedi... o.o
OrgL33 8 months ago
ah, the way it was intended!
williestratton 1 year ago
1:05 I could've swore that was sped up. this man is amazing.
StopTheMoti0n 1 year ago
I have one of those bows. They are fun but require a lot of thumb strength.
xylenz 2 years ago
@xylenz Where do you get a bow like that?
NstGuitarist 1 year ago
foul...go to walmart and buy an electronic keyboard. leave cello instrumentation to those who play for the sound not the despiration.
nagoyago 2 years ago
sorry, do you mean desperation?
Nice comment...great to talk to you.
1whynotcello 2 years ago
wat da fuck wrong wit his bow?
Curton6693 2 years ago
Would you mind to comment in english?
1whynotcello 2 years ago 2
Amazing playing!!
elcid22 2 years ago
This is a very big effort in cello playing and interpretation of the pieces by Johann Sebastian Bach! I enjoyed also very much the other movements of the Suite in D major played by Michael Bach with his curved bow. Gratulation!
738427f6erb 3 years ago
This has nothing in comon with "historical" interpretations. This is obviously not intended, that's why I am so impressed.
3158679 3 years ago 4
Great stuff!
1whynotcello 3 years ago
This bow has absolutely no connection to historical authenticity, but hey. I'm actually surpsied I even found this video. Most people have discarded this theoretical bow.
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
The BACH.Bow is a new invention of Michael Bach and has no historical links.
cellobridge 3 years ago
interesting... i hope they make it available "commercially" but i'm a bit skeptical due to the musical tradition we have.
PeriodinstrumentfaN 3 years ago
Look at the title of the video, "the polyphonic cello". This is not a period bow at all. The Bachbogen (Bach bow) is a modern invention intended for simultaneously playing several strings. For a more dramatic demonstration, watch this other video: "The Polyphonic Cello: Burkard Weber (1)". Here we can see another version of this bow, which can either tighten (0:01) or loosen (0:35) the hairs. Anyway, you can purchase a bow like the one of Michael Bach in the Bach.Bogen website.
zarihueya555 2 years ago
I'm no authority on historic instruments, but I have to say that this bow looks a lot like bows I've seen in 17th and 18th century paintings and engravings.
Maybe that's where the bow maker got the idea for the design?
"Most people", by which I assume you mean "most string players", play all music of all periods on late 19th century instruments, or instruments modeled after those.
wcbroccoli 3 years ago
Actually that's exactly where the maker got his inspiration from. Guy's last name was Vega I think.
The problem is though that there are no surviving historical bows that resemble this. And paintings and Art from that era in general, particularily those revoloving around things like the sense of hearing and music tend to be quite stylized.
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
very nice interpretation, I liked the bow with the shape it gives the suite a complete different color with a more baroque like sound...
Apalexpe 3 years ago 4
RedWasabii:
I think, there are so many interpretations of these Suites, also transcriptions for other instruments...why shouldn't it be allowed to change the bow of the cello in order to achieve a new way of playing these pieces? I'm sure, we don't know how these pieces where played in Bach's time. We even know less how Bach wanted them to be played. But this is not very important. Interpretation has to change any time.
whynotcello 3 years ago
The tired old "we can't know so let's play them any way we like" attitude that rejects the insights of research and scholarship and prefers to wallow in ignorance and play all music of all periods on late-19th century instruments and with late-Romantic notions of intepretation.
wcbroccoli 3 years ago
It is not a question of likes and dislikes - it's just a New WAY of cello playing and interpretation of the Suites by J.S. Bach which is exciting-
excursion2008 3 years ago
What I said was just an opinion. I agree it's a new way, but it is very disrespectful to Bach and the period performances. Of course there is no way to go back 300 years and play these suites the way Bach wanted them to. The purpose I think is to get close touch with Bach's feelings. However by playing these romantically, I THINK you can never grasp Bach's true understandings. The question of likes and dislikes is dependent on philosophy of sound alone and that's why I said it as an opinion.
RedWasabii 3 years ago
It's nice talking with you. There are thousands of interpretations of the Suites for cello - and even more opinions. Why? Because there is no recepy to play them - and if so, this would be "the last word", that is to say the END of the discussion.
ruenationale 3 years ago
Historically informed performances (and I'm not suggesting that this is one of those) are not trying "grasp Bach's understandings" -- that is a 19th century notion.
What they are to do is get as close as possible to the sound of the instruments and performance practices of Bach time.
wcbroccoli 3 years ago
Don't like the style of playing but what a very nice tone. I'm trying to imagine holding that bow. Wouldn't it be hard to grab? I saw your other video and it seemed like you have to push up to tighten the bow hair. Correct me if I'm wrong.
RedWasabii 3 years ago
phantastisch, der Rundbogenklang!
dorfstrasse35 3 years ago
sagenhafter Klang
ruenationale 3 years ago
PERFECT
pbaron23 3 years ago
I keep looking at this but forget to comment. I have emailed to several friends. Thanks one more time.
espressopolice 3 years ago