Life changes all the time and we just have to move forward and adapt. We used to communicate by letter, then the telephone came then mobile 'phones then e-mail. The key is we're still communicating and maybe more people are involved than would have been before. Dyslexics can vlog but they'd never have written letters. Etiquette changes but it's still there and I think we're fundamentally social animals. Cheers, Lesley
I agree more people are staying in. A lot of my generation would rather use a computer to communicate; we have grown up with them. I think society is placing more of an emphasis on computer skills as time goes on. My print is terrible, but my cursive is much better. Typing a document is faster than writing one for me. I haven't heard anyone use text speak whilst talking.
I haven't used, what we would call, joined up writing for years now & would find it very hard to do so. I've used print because i find it's often more legible.
I must admit my typing skills have certainly improved over the past few years!! :)
I think in some ways you are right and in fact I think China and Japan are already seeing some of the fallout of internet addiction-But I'm not entirely convinced we are about to see a generation of kids who can only interact virtually. The internet might have some negative effects on some types of people but over all I think kids gain from it and I think it might even improve kids "real world" interactions. I'm also not worried about texting.
Personally, I think it is a phase brought on by limits of mobile technology. As technology improves, mobile video will bypass texting and will become more personal than audio calls. Even that's not the case there have been people all the way back to the 15th century who wanted to change the English language with shorthand and phonetic spelling and the English language has always survived and evolved.
You have to admit stenographers of the recent past would be hard pressed to keep up with some of these kids who are using their own self-taught natural and evolving short hand.
You could well be right that mobile video will become far more important in the future. I know that's the way cell/mobile phones are starting to go already.
Who knows what the future holds. That's what makes it all the more interesting, we don't quite know where it's all headed.
I don't know how to hand write anymore. Really. I can only print. I had to provide a one page handwritting sample for a job application several years ago. It took me hours to complete. I had to consciously think of each letter as I imagine a Kindergartener must.
Consider that as people in general lose social skills, those who still have them will be able to claim a premium for them when hunting for jobs. So, some people will benefit.
That's scary, I found the same thing happening to me. If I have to write something, I usually print or I use a cursive that ends up having lots of printed letters thrown in. I'm almost positive I would get stumped if some one quizzed me on cursive letters. My writing has always been bad but it has gotten to the point that I have considered picking up a cursive script book and practicing it like some do calligraphy.
Letter writing is definitely a lost art, but that's not to say that what we have now is worse. I think of the people who settle this country, particularly the westward expansion, who went months and months without seeing anybody but their small family. While our emails may not have the same lasting power as their surviving letters, aren't we at least a bit better off with the immediacy of our interactions?
It's hard to believe sometimes how people survived way back then, but they did. Whether we could now, i'm not so sure, now that the genie is out of the bottle.
When people from the UK emigrated to Australia years ago, they had to wait months for letters to arrive. That must have been very hard as well :)
2:05 - you hit the nail on the head there! YouTube has allowed me, certainly to meet two or three hundred genuine friends from all over the world (and in your case right here!) that I would not have otherwise met! I do think you can judge if they are genuine people online in the same way as you can in person, if you converse for long enough on a range of subjects you can tell who is genuine or not:)
I certainly agree that things like YouTube make it far more tempting to stay indoors. But, it's no real substitute for getting out into the 'real' world :)
I guess I am becoming a bit archaic wandering about outdoors with my bow and my camera in the countryside... I still find TV, Internet, etc a poor trade for a mountain meadow, river or lake... Regardless of meat or fish harvested... The stats show my generation maybe be the last to spend so much time outdoors... What do you suppose the consequences of this will be?
I'm afraid you could be right in what you say Pappy. As you know, i like to get out into the fresh air & take a nice walk. But, i see so many younger people who have no desire to do that & that's a great pity.
Who's going to help protect our open spaces & wildernesses, if nobody cares about them? :)
When i'm writing emails etc, i always feel the need to double check the grammar and punctuation, even though, as you say, it doesn't really matter too much. I suppose that's a good thing for me anyway...it keeps the skills alive. (not that i get it right all the time though!) Gud vid m8.lol
Now that I think about, my human interaction on the internet is about 100 fold times what it is in the "real" world. And I've made a hundred times more contacts and "friends" with common interests on YouTube alone. I don't know where civilization is headed, but do you think our connectivity would be possible without the internet? We must preserve Net Neutrality to save this wonderful resource.
You have a good point there. Somebody else has already pointed out how the Internet has enabled them to make friends that they wouldn't otherwise have made, because of their shyness.
So the Internet can certainly be a great force for good. We just need to balance our Internet life with our 'real' life.
Ive been told that I have the hand writing of a serial killer. I DO attempt to keep on top of my punctuation and spelling, but its a struggle. Thank goodness for spell check, I would be lost without it!
Does this mean that in the future all those handwriting experts will be out of a job & the serial killers will be able to walk free, because we can't catch them? :)
English has been a deteriorating language for a while now, which is sad. I personally don't text message, never really have. I use instant messenger programs to talk, my use of those programs are similar to how I use phones. I still prefer to write in proper English and make use of what little grammar skills I have.
I think it's sad and quite stupid when someone says LOL to a joke instead of just laughing. It's not very good social skills.
I'm not a fan of text speak, it takes me longer to read & work out than 'normal' text. Having said that the idea of it is to make it easier to write, not read.
I've actually just recorded a vlog all about text & the problems that can be caused by it :)
Thanks, that's what I tell all of the campaign people who want to engage me in door-to-door or phone call activities and I don't do either because I'm half deaf and can't understand what people tell me 7/10ths of the time. Like yesterday, I took my wife to lunch and at the end, the waittress asked, "Can I bring your bill now." And I answered, "No thank you, I don't need anything else" thinking that she was asking whether I wanted any dessert. My wife says to just shut up, she can speak for me.
a fantasy world is much easier to deal with than the " real " world . most people would rather interact with fantasy , where the world is their won , dictated by their hopes and desires , than deal with people and potential conflict . there doesn't seem to be much danger in it , until you realize , conflict can lead to personal growth , as opposed to an internalized , self aggrandized dreamworld , with the main sycophant , yourself . JV
That's a brilliant statement and I was going to say something similar - the real world sucks. However, we must deal with it if we want our grandchildren and their children to survive in a world fraught with danger.
That's a great comment, amongst lot's of other great comments.
I do believe people use fantasy as an escape from the pressures etc of the 'real' world & i can understand why. But, as you suggest, that does have it's downside.
We all learn from our experiences in life, whether good or bad.
I know i certainly have & they've made me stronger as well:)
That's a very good point & one i hadn't thought of.
I have lot's of subscribers who have never made a video, because they consider themselves too shy to do so. But, this website & the Internet generally, gives them an outlet & enables them to make 'friends & interact with new people all over the world. Without ever leaving their home :)
I think that social interaction will always be a mainstay of society, although I do worry about spelling and grammar. Kids will always want "the latest thing" and who knows what that might be in five years time, but everyone develops social skills naturally.
I'm sure the same sort of concerns were made when the telephone was invented, but people are social creatures and hopefully, it will stay that way.
Handwriting letters - nope, I haven't done that in about 10 years or more. In fact, my hand cramps up if I spend too much time taking pen or pencil to paper.
I know what you mean about losing social skills. It's a concern I've had for a while, although I keep learning that because I had them for years before the Internet, they aren't completely gone. A big relief, I assure you!
Andy, the last sentences of this great vlog you've posted struck me as being so true -- we need to be "belly to belly," as I frequently say in order to learn important interaction skills. I sometimes wonder about the concept of home schooling as opposed to the traditional route. There are however, many "outside" activities that any child can get involved with as long as they receive the proper guidance. Great points are being made in the discussion here!!!
Some terrific comments here Andy which demonstrates the power of this method of communcation. My handwriting is practically illegible now but there are times when only a hnad-written note is appropriate - or maybe it's engrained in me that way - so when I do write them I find it extremely difficult not being able to use a delete or backspace key!!
My stepdaughters are all college age now and they never answer my emails to them because they say it's as old fashioned as snail mail.
The older generations have always ranted at the youth that they're good for nothing etc. It's always been like that. I had that when I was a teenager. "You're always watching tv! Blah... go out make some friends." I think they'll be alright. They still meet loads of people at school and sports and stuff. And the language changes, well, like you said it's not a bad thing that language evolves but good handwriting should continue to be taught at schools.
Luckily my kids handwriting is pretty good, but their texting skills are even better!!
It was vastly different in my childhood. There wasn't so much to stay in for. TV & home life generally were completely different to what it's like now. I think a lot of people forget that :)
That's true. It was very different. I think, if (young) people can find the right balance between social life and technology then it needn't be a bad thing that they spend a lot of time communicating online.
The problem is that it's not communicating but mostly just games that they spend all their time on. Thus neglecting friendships and that is a bad thing. (That's what I mean with finding the right balance.)
My son plays online games with his friends, but yes he does play them by himself as well. Whether that means he actually interacts with his friends more, or less than he would have done pre-Internet, i don't know.
Balance is important in everything we do in life, but it's not always easy to get that balance right.
My spelling has gone to pot! I wrote this before you said it
For parents who don't insist their children to go out and play and have them sitting in front of the TV or computer is creating an addict.. You can see the kids texting while walking, talking and in school. this is bound to have a social impact and a change in society in another 10 years where we will look back and go "Remember when?' Maybe we are evolving into Robots (Kidding but not really if you know what I mean)
Spelling has never been too much of a problem for me, handwriting has though. I also meant to say that i get writers cramp so easily these days, because i'm just not used to writing anymore!!
Maybe this will be thought of as a kind of golden age of the Internet. When we still had a choice as to whether we used it, rather than having to, which i think will happen in the future :)
My handwriting has gotten worse, too. I think it'll be one more generation, maybe th echildren being born today, that are going to really suffer in a loss of personal, social skills but will they need them in their social environment? I don't know.
I think life will be increasingly lived online. But, there will always be a need for real social interaction. Even if it's just in the workplace etc.
You could argue that we are already seeing the signs of this starting to happen now. I hate to generalise, but some kids nowadays don't seem to be able to socialise in the way that people from my generation do :)
I went out to have a few drinks with a friend last night, and was amazed at just how much it cost.
As for the social interaction, I think things like the internet and even the availability of cell phones has allowed us to stay in while still staying connected.
I'm like you with the handwriting. Mine is getting horrible due to NOT using it!
For as much as I love connecting with ppl online, I still need the physical interaction -- it needs to be balanced out.
I find it hard these days to justify the cost of going out, like you said, it's not cheap.
Like you, i love meeting like minded people & interacting in the real world.
Maybe it's a Catch 22 situation for us. YouTube enables us to meet like minded people across the world, people you'd love to meet in real life but can't. This then means we spend more time indoors interacting with them online. As a consequence we lose our 'real world' social skills!! :)
Even though it was a bit expensive last night, I wouldn't change the time I had with my friend. There's something to be said about the atmosphere of certain meeting places. We were at a cool martini lounge with a nice atmosphere and great music. The conversation was amazing--something I wouldn't get with an online chat.
The way I see it...the internet communications have replaced my tv watching and entertainment stuff...But the human interaction still needs to happen in the 3d world. :)
Oh yes. There's nothing quite like sitting in a decent bar, having a few drinks & having a good conversation. I've spent many a good evening doing just that. Some things are worth every penny spent :)
I agree fully.That's not to discount the internet friendships, of course, which are very real. There are just many times, though, when I feel the need to "unplug" and actually experience life outside of the computer. I do fear that that will become a trap for the younger ppl who have never had to cultivate those social skills. For you and I, the internet friendships are a fun bonus to socializing. I fear that a lot of younger ppl won't develop those social skills and it wil be a way of life.
I agree completely, as usual. For us, this internet thing is a huge bonus. For them, will it simply become a crutch? What will that mean for society a couple decades down the road when that generation is the one in charge and the social skills aren't there? Of course, keep in mind A LOT of people aren't as tied into the internet as you and I! My brother and his gf just called me asking about computer advice. They have NO idea about any of this!
That's a very good point about not everybody using the Internet. But, just about every kid these days does. They grow up with it at school, or in the home & soon it will be indispensible.
Those who don't have the Internet are being increasingly left behind. That's starting to happen already :)
VERY true! I feel lucky that I touched on computers during my last years in college, and have luckily been able to stay right on top on them as well as things like texting, IMing, etc. But you are right, computers are the wave of the future, and will be more and more just a standard in the household.
I'm self taught on computers, i left school before they were really used widely.
Luckily, i've always taken an interest in technology etc. But i know plenty of people, of my age group, who haven't, or who have no interest & are already being left behind :)
I see that with my parents. They have no clue about computers and no interest in learning. But when they hear me and my siblings talk about shopping online, paying bills online, planning trips, staying in touch via email, even ordering photos, etc. I know they have to feel left behind. I tell the I watch a lot of TV shows on the internet whenever I want, and they can't even fathom it.
it's as if the future has arrived! I mean look at this, I'm chatting with somebody from the UK! :)
My father is constantly amazed when i tell & show him the sort of things that can be done via the Internet (he's 91)
Without the Internet & YouTube we would never have 'met' & wouldn't have known that the other person existed. Now that's technology being put to a good use imho :)
Life changes all the time and we just have to move forward and adapt. We used to communicate by letter, then the telephone came then mobile 'phones then e-mail. The key is we're still communicating and maybe more people are involved than would have been before. Dyslexics can vlog but they'd never have written letters. Etiquette changes but it's still there and I think we're fundamentally social animals. Cheers, Lesley
flydarling 4 years ago
Yep, we're still social animals at heart i think.
That's a good point about dyslexics being able to vlog, rather than write. So maybe the Internet can be more inclusive, if you have access to it? :)
andymooseman 4 years ago
It all comes down to the haves and have nots but then that's the same with post and 'phones. L
flydarling 4 years ago
I agree more people are staying in. A lot of my generation would rather use a computer to communicate; we have grown up with them. I think society is placing more of an emphasis on computer skills as time goes on. My print is terrible, but my cursive is much better. Typing a document is faster than writing one for me. I haven't heard anyone use text speak whilst talking.
DrSidPalp 4 years ago
I haven't used, what we would call, joined up writing for years now & would find it very hard to do so. I've used print because i find it's often more legible.
I must admit my typing skills have certainly improved over the past few years!! :)
andymooseman 4 years ago
I think in some ways you are right and in fact I think China and Japan are already seeing some of the fallout of internet addiction-But I'm not entirely convinced we are about to see a generation of kids who can only interact virtually. The internet might have some negative effects on some types of people but over all I think kids gain from it and I think it might even improve kids "real world" interactions. I'm also not worried about texting.
americannamor 4 years ago
Personally, I think it is a phase brought on by limits of mobile technology. As technology improves, mobile video will bypass texting and will become more personal than audio calls. Even that's not the case there have been people all the way back to the 15th century who wanted to change the English language with shorthand and phonetic spelling and the English language has always survived and evolved.
americannamor 4 years ago
You have to admit stenographers of the recent past would be hard pressed to keep up with some of these kids who are using their own self-taught natural and evolving short hand.
americannamor 4 years ago
You could well be right that mobile video will become far more important in the future. I know that's the way cell/mobile phones are starting to go already.
Who knows what the future holds. That's what makes it all the more interesting, we don't quite know where it's all headed.
andymooseman 4 years ago
well my handwriting is terrible so thank goodness for keyboards and email! ;)
21stCenturyCat 4 years ago
But is it bad because you don't have to write anything anymore. Or are you like me & just have bad handwriting?
I tend to write everything in capitals to make it more legible!! :)
andymooseman 4 years ago
nope, it was bad a long time before I ever encountered a computer keyboard
21stCenturyCat 4 years ago
I thought you'd be too busy answering hater comment to reply to this!! :)
andymooseman 4 years ago
I don't know how to hand write anymore. Really. I can only print. I had to provide a one page handwritting sample for a job application several years ago. It took me hours to complete. I had to consciously think of each letter as I imagine a Kindergartener must.
Consider that as people in general lose social skills, those who still have them will be able to claim a premium for them when hunting for jobs. So, some people will benefit.
ButterRivaLs 4 years ago
Interesting topic again, Andy. : )
ButterRivaLs 4 years ago
Thanks.
This one really just came from all of the response i got from my previous video. So it's all down to you guys really :)
andymooseman 4 years ago
That's a good point.
Social skills etc will be in short supply, so those who still have them can rise to the top of the pile.
I'd better start practising my handwriting again :)
andymooseman 4 years ago
Handwriting is something I want to do again, and will work towards. Good luck in your practise (practice)! :D
ButterRivaLs 4 years ago
That's scary, I found the same thing happening to me. If I have to write something, I usually print or I use a cursive that ends up having lots of printed letters thrown in. I'm almost positive I would get stumped if some one quizzed me on cursive letters. My writing has always been bad but it has gotten to the point that I have considered picking up a cursive script book and practicing it like some do calligraphy.
americannamor 4 years ago
Yes, I think I will be "picking up a cursive script book and practicing it like some do calligraphy." Thanks for the idea. : )
ButterRivaLs 4 years ago
Letter writing is definitely a lost art, but that's not to say that what we have now is worse. I think of the people who settle this country, particularly the westward expansion, who went months and months without seeing anybody but their small family. While our emails may not have the same lasting power as their surviving letters, aren't we at least a bit better off with the immediacy of our interactions?
kenrg 4 years ago
It's hard to believe sometimes how people survived way back then, but they did. Whether we could now, i'm not so sure, now that the genie is out of the bottle.
When people from the UK emigrated to Australia years ago, they had to wait months for letters to arrive. That must have been very hard as well :)
andymooseman 4 years ago
2:05 - you hit the nail on the head there! YouTube has allowed me, certainly to meet two or three hundred genuine friends from all over the world (and in your case right here!) that I would not have otherwise met! I do think you can judge if they are genuine people online in the same way as you can in person, if you converse for long enough on a range of subjects you can tell who is genuine or not:)
ajdpadbury 4 years ago
I had to go back & watch the video again to see which bit you were referring to!!
I'm sure you, more than most of us, have reason to thank YouTube & the Internet for bringing people together who would never have met otherwise.
Like you, i've made 'friends' all over the world because of this site :)
andymooseman 4 years ago
you tube keeps us in more! I think i need that DVD set Planet Earth.. and the cost of gas kills us too!!
cooksterz 4 years ago
I certainly agree that things like YouTube make it far more tempting to stay indoors. But, it's no real substitute for getting out into the 'real' world :)
andymooseman 4 years ago
I am definitely an indoor person, a homebody for sure. But, I do enjoy going out with friends at least once a week.
Joanie
Joan3424 4 years ago
That sounds pretty well balanced to me :)
andymooseman 4 years ago
I guess I am becoming a bit archaic wandering about outdoors with my bow and my camera in the countryside... I still find TV, Internet, etc a poor trade for a mountain meadow, river or lake... Regardless of meat or fish harvested... The stats show my generation maybe be the last to spend so much time outdoors... What do you suppose the consequences of this will be?
Pappy mumbled it...
PappyStu 4 years ago
I'm afraid you could be right in what you say Pappy. As you know, i like to get out into the fresh air & take a nice walk. But, i see so many younger people who have no desire to do that & that's a great pity.
Who's going to help protect our open spaces & wildernesses, if nobody cares about them? :)
andymooseman 4 years ago
Amen Compadre....
PappyStu 4 years ago
When i'm writing emails etc, i always feel the need to double check the grammar and punctuation, even though, as you say, it doesn't really matter too much. I suppose that's a good thing for me anyway...it keeps the skills alive. (not that i get it right all the time though!) Gud vid m8.lol
Riverman1971 4 years ago
I'm like you & probably spend more time checking my comments, than i do writing them.
I guess it all comes down to personal pride? :)
andymooseman 4 years ago
Now that I think about, my human interaction on the internet is about 100 fold times what it is in the "real" world. And I've made a hundred times more contacts and "friends" with common interests on YouTube alone. I don't know where civilization is headed, but do you think our connectivity would be possible without the internet? We must preserve Net Neutrality to save this wonderful resource.
desertjournalonline 4 years ago
You have a good point there. Somebody else has already pointed out how the Internet has enabled them to make friends that they wouldn't otherwise have made, because of their shyness.
So the Internet can certainly be a great force for good. We just need to balance our Internet life with our 'real' life.
And i'm right behind you on Net Neutrality :)
andymooseman 4 years ago
Yea, we take care of the grandkids and enjoy their functions and disciplines (dance, pompom, karate and soccer stuff).
desertjournalonline 4 years ago
Ive been told that I have the hand writing of a serial killer. I DO attempt to keep on top of my punctuation and spelling, but its a struggle. Thank goodness for spell check, I would be lost without it!
D
1DRock37167 4 years ago
Well at least your text writing is ok :)
Does this mean that in the future all those handwriting experts will be out of a job & the serial killers will be able to walk free, because we can't catch them? :)
andymooseman 4 years ago
Probably so, but then the computer geeks will come up with a way to analyze your keystrokes and word placement and use that to prosecute (I hope).
D
1DRock37167 4 years ago
English has been a deteriorating language for a while now, which is sad. I personally don't text message, never really have. I use instant messenger programs to talk, my use of those programs are similar to how I use phones. I still prefer to write in proper English and make use of what little grammar skills I have.
I think it's sad and quite stupid when someone says LOL to a joke instead of just laughing. It's not very good social skills.
Aaroncast86 4 years ago
I'm not a fan of text speak, it takes me longer to read & work out than 'normal' text. Having said that the idea of it is to make it easier to write, not read.
I've actually just recorded a vlog all about text & the problems that can be caused by it :)
andymooseman 4 years ago
I guess it's convenient for me to stay inside and be glued to the internet since I'm also helping to raise three grandchildren, two pre-school.
desertjournalonline 4 years ago
OK I'll let you off then :)
andymooseman 4 years ago
Thanks, that's what I tell all of the campaign people who want to engage me in door-to-door or phone call activities and I don't do either because I'm half deaf and can't understand what people tell me 7/10ths of the time. Like yesterday, I took my wife to lunch and at the end, the waittress asked, "Can I bring your bill now." And I answered, "No thank you, I don't need anything else" thinking that she was asking whether I wanted any dessert. My wife says to just shut up, she can speak for me.
desertjournalonline 4 years ago
LOL That's a great story. I can just imagine the look that waitress gave you :)
andymooseman 4 years ago
a fantasy world is much easier to deal with than the " real " world . most people would rather interact with fantasy , where the world is their won , dictated by their hopes and desires , than deal with people and potential conflict . there doesn't seem to be much danger in it , until you realize , conflict can lead to personal growth , as opposed to an internalized , self aggrandized dreamworld , with the main sycophant , yourself . JV
JoeVector69 4 years ago
That's a brilliant statement and I was going to say something similar - the real world sucks. However, we must deal with it if we want our grandchildren and their children to survive in a world fraught with danger.
desertjournalonline 4 years ago
That's a great comment, amongst lot's of other great comments.
I do believe people use fantasy as an escape from the pressures etc of the 'real' world & i can understand why. But, as you suggest, that does have it's downside.
We all learn from our experiences in life, whether good or bad.
I know i certainly have & they've made me stronger as well:)
andymooseman 4 years ago
Yes, the Internet has become a haven for shy people such as myself who never indulged in going out or being popular and never really wanted to.
robertpina99 4 years ago
That's a very good point & one i hadn't thought of.
I have lot's of subscribers who have never made a video, because they consider themselves too shy to do so. But, this website & the Internet generally, gives them an outlet & enables them to make 'friends & interact with new people all over the world. Without ever leaving their home :)
andymooseman 4 years ago
Another set of good points with plenty to ponder. Thanks Andy.
SunnyDazStormyNitz 4 years ago
Hopefully this will keep you going for a few days :)
andymooseman 4 years ago
I think that social interaction will always be a mainstay of society, although I do worry about spelling and grammar. Kids will always want "the latest thing" and who knows what that might be in five years time, but everyone develops social skills naturally.
I'm sure the same sort of concerns were made when the telephone was invented, but people are social creatures and hopefully, it will stay that way.
TamHickey67 4 years ago
I agree that we are social creatures by nature. Maybe this is evolution at work though?
Evolution inspired by technology perhaps? :)
andymooseman 4 years ago
ROFL is now a real WORD?? WOW!
Handwriting letters - nope, I haven't done that in about 10 years or more. In fact, my hand cramps up if I spend too much time taking pen or pencil to paper.
I know what you mean about losing social skills. It's a concern I've had for a while, although I keep learning that because I had them for years before the Internet, they aren't completely gone. A big relief, I assure you!
OhCurt 4 years ago
Well my kids use ROFL as a word anyway.
I meant to mention in the video about writers cramp. I'm like you & suffer from that very quickly these days. I'm just out of practise.
YouTube Gatherings can now be thought of as a force for preserving social skills & interaction. All the more reason to attend them!!
BTW I'm thinking about trying to get to ST2 after all, after 'speaking' to Gary :)
andymooseman 4 years ago
Cool! I hope you can swing it.
I hope both of us can swing it!
OhCurt 4 years ago
I hope you can as well.
We can be a couple of swingers together!! :)
andymooseman 4 years ago
Andy, the last sentences of this great vlog you've posted struck me as being so true -- we need to be "belly to belly," as I frequently say in order to learn important interaction skills. I sometimes wonder about the concept of home schooling as opposed to the traditional route. There are however, many "outside" activities that any child can get involved with as long as they receive the proper guidance. Great points are being made in the discussion here!!!
willyIV 4 years ago
Thanks Willy. I've often wondered whether home schooling can deprive a child of that social interaction that children need.
We all need to get out into the big wide world sometimes & not be too insular.
I agree about the comments here. It's provoked some great points, as you say :)
andymooseman 4 years ago
Some terrific comments here Andy which demonstrates the power of this method of communcation. My handwriting is practically illegible now but there are times when only a hnad-written note is appropriate - or maybe it's engrained in me that way - so when I do write them I find it extremely difficult not being able to use a delete or backspace key!!
My stepdaughters are all college age now and they never answer my emails to them because they say it's as old fashioned as snail mail.
LeSaMilano 4 years ago
Wait--now answering emails is old fashion? What is one supposed to do? Or is text messaging the new email?
anakin1814 4 years ago
txt msg betr thn email bcuz u cn b w frndz on wknd. CU l8rz xxooxx
LeSaMilano 4 years ago
I actually understood this!!
I agree with the sentiment. But, email helps me keep in contact with people right around the world. I can't always do that with a text :)
andymooseman 4 years ago
lol!
anakin1814 4 years ago
That's got me worried as well Gary.
Technology moves so fast these days, or at least fashions do.
Blink & you miss it!! :)
andymooseman 4 years ago
Yes, some of the comments are great aren't they? I seem to have hit on a subject that's made people think & that's always good to see.
I agree that a hand written note is sometimes best, like a quick thank you note.
Like Gary, i'm a bit worried that email is already being seen as old fashioned!! :)
andymooseman 4 years ago
The older generations have always ranted at the youth that they're good for nothing etc. It's always been like that. I had that when I was a teenager. "You're always watching tv! Blah... go out make some friends." I think they'll be alright. They still meet loads of people at school and sports and stuff. And the language changes, well, like you said it's not a bad thing that language evolves but good handwriting should continue to be taught at schools.
EddyBergman 4 years ago
Luckily my kids handwriting is pretty good, but their texting skills are even better!!
It was vastly different in my childhood. There wasn't so much to stay in for. TV & home life generally were completely different to what it's like now. I think a lot of people forget that :)
andymooseman 4 years ago
That's true. It was very different. I think, if (young) people can find the right balance between social life and technology then it needn't be a bad thing that they spend a lot of time communicating online.
The problem is that it's not communicating but mostly just games that they spend all their time on. Thus neglecting friendships and that is a bad thing. (That's what I mean with finding the right balance.)
EddyBergman 4 years ago
My son plays online games with his friends, but yes he does play them by himself as well. Whether that means he actually interacts with his friends more, or less than he would have done pre-Internet, i don't know.
Balance is important in everything we do in life, but it's not always easy to get that balance right.
Thanks for your comments :)
andymooseman 4 years ago
My spelling has gone to pot! I wrote this before you said it
For parents who don't insist their children to go out and play and have them sitting in front of the TV or computer is creating an addict.. You can see the kids texting while walking, talking and in school. this is bound to have a social impact and a change in society in another 10 years where we will look back and go "Remember when?' Maybe we are evolving into Robots (Kidding but not really if you know what I mean)
Pippilly 4 years ago
Spelling has never been too much of a problem for me, handwriting has though. I also meant to say that i get writers cramp so easily these days, because i'm just not used to writing anymore!!
Maybe this will be thought of as a kind of golden age of the Internet. When we still had a choice as to whether we used it, rather than having to, which i think will happen in the future :)
andymooseman 4 years ago
My handwriting has gotten worse, too. I think it'll be one more generation, maybe th echildren being born today, that are going to really suffer in a loss of personal, social skills but will they need them in their social environment? I don't know.
NaturalTwentyFilms 4 years ago
I think life will be increasingly lived online. But, there will always be a need for real social interaction. Even if it's just in the workplace etc.
You could argue that we are already seeing the signs of this starting to happen now. I hate to generalise, but some kids nowadays don't seem to be able to socialise in the way that people from my generation do :)
andymooseman 4 years ago
I went out to have a few drinks with a friend last night, and was amazed at just how much it cost.
As for the social interaction, I think things like the internet and even the availability of cell phones has allowed us to stay in while still staying connected.
I'm like you with the handwriting. Mine is getting horrible due to NOT using it!
For as much as I love connecting with ppl online, I still need the physical interaction -- it needs to be balanced out.
Great great video!
anakin1814 4 years ago
I find it hard these days to justify the cost of going out, like you said, it's not cheap.
Like you, i love meeting like minded people & interacting in the real world.
Maybe it's a Catch 22 situation for us. YouTube enables us to meet like minded people across the world, people you'd love to meet in real life but can't. This then means we spend more time indoors interacting with them online. As a consequence we lose our 'real world' social skills!! :)
andymooseman 4 years ago
Even though it was a bit expensive last night, I wouldn't change the time I had with my friend. There's something to be said about the atmosphere of certain meeting places. We were at a cool martini lounge with a nice atmosphere and great music. The conversation was amazing--something I wouldn't get with an online chat.
The way I see it...the internet communications have replaced my tv watching and entertainment stuff...But the human interaction still needs to happen in the 3d world. :)
anakin1814 4 years ago
Oh yes. There's nothing quite like sitting in a decent bar, having a few drinks & having a good conversation. I've spent many a good evening doing just that. Some things are worth every penny spent :)
andymooseman 4 years ago
I agree fully.That's not to discount the internet friendships, of course, which are very real. There are just many times, though, when I feel the need to "unplug" and actually experience life outside of the computer. I do fear that that will become a trap for the younger ppl who have never had to cultivate those social skills. For you and I, the internet friendships are a fun bonus to socializing. I fear that a lot of younger ppl won't develop those social skills and it wil be a way of life.
anakin1814 4 years ago
That's exactly what i was talking about.
For us it's a bonus & maybe even a novelty. A novelty which has grown into something more powerful admittedly.
But, for the youngsters who knows? :)
andymooseman 4 years ago
I agree completely, as usual. For us, this internet thing is a huge bonus. For them, will it simply become a crutch? What will that mean for society a couple decades down the road when that generation is the one in charge and the social skills aren't there? Of course, keep in mind A LOT of people aren't as tied into the internet as you and I! My brother and his gf just called me asking about computer advice. They have NO idea about any of this!
anakin1814 4 years ago
That's a very good point about not everybody using the Internet. But, just about every kid these days does. They grow up with it at school, or in the home & soon it will be indispensible.
Those who don't have the Internet are being increasingly left behind. That's starting to happen already :)
andymooseman 4 years ago
VERY true! I feel lucky that I touched on computers during my last years in college, and have luckily been able to stay right on top on them as well as things like texting, IMing, etc. But you are right, computers are the wave of the future, and will be more and more just a standard in the household.
anakin1814 4 years ago
I'm self taught on computers, i left school before they were really used widely.
Luckily, i've always taken an interest in technology etc. But i know plenty of people, of my age group, who haven't, or who have no interest & are already being left behind :)
andymooseman 4 years ago
I see that with my parents. They have no clue about computers and no interest in learning. But when they hear me and my siblings talk about shopping online, paying bills online, planning trips, staying in touch via email, even ordering photos, etc. I know they have to feel left behind. I tell the I watch a lot of TV shows on the internet whenever I want, and they can't even fathom it.
it's as if the future has arrived! I mean look at this, I'm chatting with somebody from the UK! :)
anakin1814 4 years ago
My father is constantly amazed when i tell & show him the sort of things that can be done via the Internet (he's 91)
Without the Internet & YouTube we would never have 'met' & wouldn't have known that the other person existed. Now that's technology being put to a good use imho :)
andymooseman 4 years ago
Excellent point! To me, the internet is only making my world smaller, it feels like!
anakin1814 4 years ago