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  • Good for Rachel..a lot of conservative White Americans think like this.. Like America is the best country (which it's not anymore) and they built it by themselves.. Middle Eastern countries have more women elected to government that the USA.. Other countries have affordable health care ... Schools are better... Arrogance of the white conservative will be America's downfall

  • Racist = a white person who wants to live.

  • @Aldridge517 I assume you support helping minorities through Aff. Act.

    "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."

    Many minorities don't appreciate being judged by the color of their skin. Many of them don't like that they are considered inferior and need handouts to compensate for it. Bringing the cultural communities together won't be accomplished through advantages.

  • Rachel = fail, MSNBC lost a great contributor...

  • The first was John Hanson, in 1781. His exact title was the “President of the United States in Congress Assembled. He is on the back of the $2.00 bill. (A Moor..black man)

  • Benjamin Banneker completed the design and layout of Washington, DC (black man)

  • The best part is that Sotomayor is a Catholic woman, Pat got his wish!

  • What a beautiful and confident woman she, Rachel, is.

    Rachel, find me and call me.

  • I'm a liberal and I very much disagree with affirmative action. If we want to help correct racism and a racist history we don't do that by favoring one race and disqualify another even if the latter scores higher on tests. That's backwards & silly. If we want to correct wrongs and make them right maybe we should put more tax money in public schools in urban areas and give scholarships. Try and actually fix the problem instead of pretending it doesn't exist and give less qualified people jobs.

  • shes just proving his point.

  • Why is latin seen as a different race in the US? It isn't. In Europe people from countries which are considered Latin (Portugal, Spain, Italy etc) are caucasian!

  • Ethnic conflict has been a reality of human existence since the dawn of man. Anytime different ethnic group are placed in the same territory there is ethnic conflict. Mass immigration of non-white into ALL white countries and ONLY into white countries is what causes ethnic conflict. It is genocide.

  • @lastwhiteman209 you must be in your teens...are you aware that this land was occupied by Native Americans....so you're wrong

  • @focusedthoughts Every group is living on land that was once occupied by other groups but ONLY whites are told by anti-whites that we must give up our children's homes because of it. Anti-whites never say China should give the Tarim Basin to us whites. You never say that the Turks should give us Anatolia but you ALWAYS say that we should give up our lands, you are anti-white.

  • @lastwhiteman209What?! Could you be any more incoherent? Dude save it....you sound like one of those idiots who use the bible to justify slavery, selling your daughters, and having sex with your sister and mother....your dream will never come true.....you devil worshiper

  • 4:56 When he says "built by white folks" that doesnt litteraly mean built, he means started. Whats she's trying to do is make him look like an idiot, by her definition of "built" the US Congress was built by the people who made the chairs they sit in. I agree about her arguement about the wars, but this country was started by whites and most prosperous when whites were in charge. We were most prosperous with slaves so why dont we go back to it? And also what this show does is gossip about guests

  • Uh-OH... There Rachel Maddow goes again DISCRIMINATING AGAINST WHITE FOLK (that's what it's called when you try to support minorities) ;P

  • Please visit my channel for the unpopular truth about homosexuality.

    A person does not need hatred or any kind of phobia in order to acknowledge important differences between heterosexuality and homosexuality. Even non-religious people know this.

    The homosexual agenda is not good for anyone, including those who consider themselves "gay".

    Homosexual activists, with support from the media, have successfully framed themselves as noble victims; it's an effective way to push a social agenda.

  • lol! Good shit!!

  • Well the second half she makes some good points

  • What is she going on about

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  • What rachel maddow did was very important because conservatives are like pat. They are very condscending towards minorities and quiet often racist.

  • SONIA SOTOMAYOR IS A BRILLIANT WOMAN! RACHEL MADDOW IS BRILLIANT AS WELL. SHE TOOK DOWN THE RACIST PAT BUCHANAN. THANK YOU, RACHEL!

  • SONIA SOTOMAYOR IS A BRILLIANT WOMAN!

  • Discrimination is wrong, even if it's against White males. Sonia was chosen because of her race, just like all the previous White males to serve on the court. Liberal Democrats are just as racist at Conservative Republicans.

    This wouldn't even be an issue if Sonia's parents had decided to stay in Puerto Rico.

  • Rachel: "...White house, which of course, was built by slaves. The U.S. capitol building, built by slaves. The city of Washington D.C. built by slave labor. Its not even possible to imagine how America could've competed for a place in the global economy in the 1800's without plantation cotton, tobacco, sugar, rice, and the other industries that were so thoroughly dependent on slave labor."

    NUFF SAID.

  • @tbhaver the induStrial revolution is what launched us to preminence in the world. machines ,cars, aeronautics,and nuclear physics. sorry hommie not shirts , cigarettes, and rice krispies. but talk what ever gibberish you want cause you'll always get a low rated lunitic like ricky madcow to have your back,LOL

  • The judge woman wrote 5 - count them - 5 articles. WOW!

    In other words, the students choosen on Yale's Law Review were selected - not by affirmative action - but - worse - selected by popularity contest.

    "Built" doesn't mean "set the bricks", Mr Maddow. It means someone who paid the bill to build those buildings - White House, railroads etc. Not who set the tracks or bricks. If that were the case - carpenters and builders - built every town in the country. DUMB liberal point of view.

  • Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn. She highlighted this idiot. Lmao

  • u cant argue with pat buchanan.

  • @Mr1700 Is that a joke or sarcasm? Pat Buchanan is a paleoconservative, and that in itself is enough to mean he shouldn't be listened to in this century.

  • Rachel I seen that interview with pat. sorry but I thought he thoroughly whooped your hiney! You wouldnt answer any of his questions but only asked him why he is not proud of a latino being on the bench! proof of this is that the sting you felt from him embarrassing so badly compelled you to waste half of your show the next day arguing with him in his absence! LOL! You're so pathetic!!

  • Democrats controlled the Sothern states during the Slave trade and Civil War. Lincoln was a Republican.

    The KKK was started by Democrats who are also the majority of members today !

    But since Obama became President, the Democrats are Now trying to claim the high ground with racism.

  • @53dumey Attually it was John F. Kennedy who took the high ground in the early 60s over that.. Also I wouldn't even compare the Parties we have now to what they were back in the founding days.. because all they have incommon now is their "Colors" and other shit like that.

  • @TheOfficialiKON

    Buchanan is Not racist, Maddow is just a Crazy Bitch trying to make something out of nothing, AS USUAL !

  • @53dumey k.

  • @53dumey

    YELLING MAKES ME SOUND IMPORTANT!

  • @53dumey

    "Democrats controlled the Sothern states during the Slave trade and Civil War. Lincoln was a Republican." (He was also a racist)

    "The KKK was started by Democrats" <---Quit playing boogeyman politics. Southern Democrats dejected to the Republican Party after the Civil Rights Movement because they were disgruntled with the Democratic administration (LBJ) who accepted Civil Rights legislation. Google "southern strategy" and gtho.I know what you're trying to imply, but you fail.

  • @DivinelyMochaDipped

    I Fail ?

    Jimmy Carter and Robert Byrd were both well known for their Racism, and I'm sure racism is still alive and well in the Democratic Party.

    But Madcow won't show you any eveidence of that, she just puts it all on the GOP !

  • @53dumey You're a real moron. The Democratic party did not start the KKK. The Democratic party and the Republican party have switched platforms. Grow up. And by the way, it's "Southern" not sothern.

  • @bathswife very good tell the truth. The Republican Party during the civil war was a liberal party and freed the slave as the Democrate party was the racist conservative party. The democrated party after slavery was the party of the KKK, jim crow segragation and the KKK were all conservative just like the tea party today. After, the civil rghts bill passed in the 1960's and President Johnson stated in an address to the nation "we shall over come." that when southerner left the democrate party.

  • @bathswife

    First you say one thing and then say the Parties switched, and You have the Guts to correct my spelling ??

    You're a Joke !

  • @bathswife "The Democratic party and the Republican party have switched platforms."

    So FDR was a Republican, since they 'switched' after his time? FDR is the patron saint of progressives, and we both know it.

    The platforms haven't switched at all. That's an EXCUSE used by Democrats to hide a seedy part of their past and present.

    'Progressives' were behind prohibition, segregation (separate but equal), and its modern cousin, Affirmative Action.

    Discrimination is a tool in the statist toolbox.

  • @Raz82R

    Completely ACCURATE

  • @bathswife

    Don't try to lower the substance of his argument by picking on spelling. Historically, the Demoncrats DID IN FACT start the KKK. Shows how little you know about the party who's ass you're licking.

  • @bathswife No they haven't. The Republican party has always been about personal freedom and liberty, and the Democrats have always tried to control people. Certainly today's GOP is radical socially and they have deviated from the true ideals of Republicanism, but the Democrats have always remained authoritarians in some regard.

  • @1337wafflezz no, youre thinking of libertarians that are for freedom, not republicans. and progressives have always been for personal freedom when it comes to womens rights and minority rights, and gay rights, and abortion rights, and youth rights, and consumer protection rights, and civil liberties. democrats are only against rights when it comes to people that aren't actually people (corporations). in fact, the only issue where liberals are against personal freedom is on gun rights.

  • @jonstephen1 Progressives are HEALTH NUTS. They are against smoking, they are anti-gun, they are anti-defense(Not offense, like libertarians). They are against economic freedom and believe Keynesian economics is fabulous(even though it's basically the same thing as corporatism, which they hate so much). No. Progressives are hypocrites.

  • @53dumey You are blind to everything that has occured in the past 50 years. The GOP and fox are arms of the KKK.

  • @j0ep1p

    No, you're wrong.

    The GOP and Fox has no more ties to the KKK than any other Network OR the Democratic party.

    You're problem is that you are believing this Bitch like she tells you the Truth.

    Did you see ALL of Buchanans Video, you know, the parts that Maddow left out ????

  • @53dumey haha thats one of the dumbest comments i've ever seen, you go for it sporty, The world needs lols

  • @PlanetBongoSan

    You can take Madcows word for it, or you can research why she is simply Lying for her paycheck !!!

  • @53dumey or I could just rely on my initial take on you and your ludicrous bleating

  • @PlanetBongoSan

    I take it you buy everything MS-LSD sells to you huh? No thinking of your own.

  • @kalel1290 you can take whatever you like mate

  • @PlanetBongoSan

    Lol no legitimate argument.

  • @kalel1290 yep that's what I thought

  • @PlanetBongoSan

    So, who's most Racist ?

    Republicans that hint at racism or Democrats and Liberals who wait with baiting breath for any hint of racism that they can cry about ?

    Affirmative Action IS racist against Whites in Favor of Blacks and Hispanics !

    Pat is right and Maddow is a Crying Liberal !!!!

  • @53dumey yeah yeah

  • @PlanetBongoSan

    Its TRUE !!!

  • @53dumey I don't know why you are telling me this, surely you can see that I don't agree with you. Bearing that in mind do you think that simply repeating 'it's true' is going to get me to change my mind? It's your own life you're wasting here man, get out and do something with it is my advice. If you feel strongly about these issues get out and campaign, write to your congressman or something. Shouting at people like me does nothing but provide us with a few cheap laughs (thanks btw)

  • @PlanetBongoSan

    I was just showing you how much you were wrong about your statement.

    Thanks for playing !

  • @53dumey you want to pretend you've made some kind of point, go right ahead. Its really nothing to do with me.

  • @53dumey And, you are a Conservative fool! have found that Rebulicans don't "hint at racism" they just do their best to deny the racism they do have.

  • @jrwel14

    The GOP voting against Soyotomeyer, was nothing racist.

    Affirmative action is rasict against White people !!!!

    Its putting a black person, with less credits, in a position simply because they are black.

    Racheal leaves out most of Pats statements, but then, she is on MSNBC !!!

  • @53dumey Your username fits you. You are a DUMBEY! You can't even spell it right. And, Rachel corrects her mistakes. Fox, feeds on theirs.

  • @jrwel14 I think you mean 'dummy' professor. By the way, where did Rachel "correct her mistakes?" She says that it isn't cool to talk about a guest after they appear and then thrown in some bullshit line about "having" to correct the record. Liberals never admit any wrongdoing. I am an independent and it speaks volumes when people align themselves with one point of view. I think you might be the "Dumbey."

  • @itsallthesametothem Rachel is always showing where she made a mistake. Conservatives never admit to theirs. Look at the one you made. DUMBY!

  • @jrwel14 Right, show me where she said she made a mistake. By the way, I like the way you reitered the usage of the word, albeit misspelled so it looks like you meant to. You are a jackass my friend. Just quiet down and throne sniff your girlfriend some more.

  • @itsallthesametothem You are the jackass. My misspelled word? Just wanted to know if you went to school or not. Rachel on her show, always shows where she made a mistake. Unlike Conservatives.

  • @jrwel14 Hey fuckjaw, I heard you the first time - show me the LINK. Tell me where she made the mistake. You are talking out of your bunghole. This bitch is an idealogue and never points out the error of her own ways. She says it's not cool to talk about guests after their interview and then goes forward talking about him She's wrong there, correct genius? As, far as the schooling goes, I would love to compare resumes; love to.

  • @itsallthesametothem Just watch her show, dumbass. The resumes? Doubt that.

  • @jrwel14 Fine, send me a message through the in-box and we'll talk. You made my point for me. I asked for one example and your retort is the elementary: "watch her show." You really are a ignorant fuck aren't you? Do yourself a favor and leave this alone, you come out looking more and more out of touch.  Leave the Cheetoes on your stomach and go back to your basement apartment in momma's house. Go ahead, have the last word, i'm done with you. Ka-Ching!

  • @itsallthesametothem You are looking more and more like the ignorant fuck.

  • @53dumey And, now. the Klan is based mostly in the southern REPUBLICAN states. So, looks like the conservatives have taken over the klan.

  • @53dumey Democrats have had the racial high ground since the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts.

  • @iruparatso

    How So ??

    Republicans also voted for Civil Rights and You guys had Robert Bryd !

  • @53dumey And you guys had Jesse Helms and Strom Thurmond.

    After the Civil and Voting Rights Acts passed, Dixiecrats left the Democratic Party en masse and switched to the Republican party. 1968 saw almost the entire south vote Republican for the first time since the Civil War. These people wanted to roll back the progress made by black Americans, and the Republican party offered support for their efforts.

  • @iruparatso

    Look up the Civil Rights bill and see who voted Yes.

    Mostly Republicans.

    That said, visit the South, its obvious whose most racist down there.

    LIBERALS !!!

  • @53dumey Wrong. Liberals have always been against racism and bigotry while conservatives haven't. Your mistake is that the parties changed considerably in the early 60's. The Democrats used to be conservative while liberals used to be Republicans. In the 60's the Republican party became conservative & the Democrats became liberal. That's why the KKK used to be Democrats but now former KKK members like David Duke are Republicans. So the people are the same racists they are just Republicans now.

  • @53dumey P.S.- I mean honestly think about what you said. All those liberals in the south? Do you think the south has tons of liberals? Why is the whole south full of red states the vote Republican? That's just too stupid for words.

  • @Flipper79able

    Just because the State is red does not mean that every red state does not have Liberals in it !

    BTW I stand by what I said !!!!!

    And Liberals ever being Republican is a Lie and a cop out on your part !!!

  • @iruparatso

    Also, Racheal blames Blacks for the failure of Prop 8 to be overturned.

    Is'nt that considered Racists ???

  • @53dumey She did nothing of the sort. She rightly pointed out that black California voters overwhelmingly supported prop 8, and then brought on Melissa Harris-Perry to discuss what this means for unity in the Democratic party between social liberals and social conservatives. She didn't "blame" anyone and there there was nothing racist about the story.

  • @iruparatso

    NO, she blamed the black voters, then calls out Bucanan for not wanting Affirmative Action.

  • @53dumey LOL - I can't believe this is still an issue. Just because your wife got turned on during an interracial porn flick, is no reason to be racist. Deal with your tennie peenie and MOVE ON!

  • Let's also not forget "the Senate did pass a resolution in 1988 acknowledging the contributions of the Iroquois Confederacy of Nations to the development of our Constitution and reaffirming the continuing government-to-government relationship between Indian tribes and the United States established in the Constitution. "

  • @53dumey

    No, dude, that's NOT what she is saying here. She's not saying, "Let's choose her because she's Latina," she's saying that to block an otherwise 100% qualified candidate simply because she's Latina, as Pat was advocating, is wrong!

  • @macgeek2004

    Her qualifications are subject to Opinion which is why we have the vetting process to begin with !

    Maddow is trying to make Pat out as a racist because he's against affirmative action, which gives appointments and offices to minorities simply because they Are minorities. That is Racism !!

  • wow look at all them honkies on the olympics teams

  • Blacks have been treated unfairly in the past, but Thats NO reason to elect an hispanic to the S.C. !!!

    Maddow is just IGNORANT here.

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  • Pat is just an ignorant bigot who needs to read a history book or two, although he might be illiterate. But Rachel was too weak in her response. I guess the censors at NBC wouldn't want anyone informing the public about the genocide of native Americans and Africans to produce gold, sugar, cocoa, and rubber for Europeans. Maybe then white people wouldn't wish for a magical zombie to come down from the sky to judge them.

  • The idea that blacks built America is laughable. That is like saying the architect didn't build the Whitehouse, but the black guys who hauled the bricks did. Without whites, blacks can't build anything. Not only have they not built America, they actually are primarily responsible for destroying America thru their criminal behaviour, illegitimate birth rate and high school drop out rate. Wake up and face the facts.

  • @rhm51

    Whose idea was it to subsidize illegitimate births?

  • @quemacha Liberals

  • even with affirmative action, people are still blatantly discriminated against, so imagine if there werent any... women and colored would never ever have any opportunities.

  • Thank you Rachel what a brilliant woman.

  • Rachel Maddow sure does sound like an asshole.

  • Can Maddow's be any more naive? Buchanan was talking about BUSINESS, not those employed or enslaved by business. It's the home builder credited with building homes and contributing to the economy and employment not the actual labors!!! Without the business owner nothing gets done. Without the inventors and innovators, those willing to take a chance nothing get's done! THAT'S what he was talking about, Maddow's you clueless hack. OF COURSE affirmative action is unconstitutional and racist.

  • I'm racist against everyone. Period

  • She should be our next president!!!

  • @TheBonesofBabyDolls Naw.. because of "She".

  • This is a thing of beauty. And she has every right to address the bullshit Pat pulled out of his ass while on her show. She might've not been prepared for his babbling BS because that is a lot of things to debunk, but he didn't need to be there for her to correct him. What's there to defend when she was just correcting his "facts".

  • what a smug bitch

  • Alright, but I wish she had done her homework before so that she could have had a discussion insted of a shit talk party. It's kind of underhanded

  • Its sad that her main viewers are liberals who already know this info .... I know some conservatives who could really advantage from this info.

  • Rachel is a heterophobic cunt.

  • @mojo75 She's an amazingly educated, gay, woman, and that scares you.

  • @mojo75 And you're a homophobic asshole.

  • rachel maddow is right

  • why is race such a issue???

  • ow snap! eat that pat

    ps I love how all the republican's can't argue with fact, so they just personally attack Rachel and act all 'surprised' she's a woman. I mean, how many guys do you know who are called Rachel?? You have to be really REALLY stupid to think Rachel Maddow is a man. Seriously.

  • But this country WAS "basically" built by white people and is still run today "basically" by white people. But this is because it has always had a white population majority. So what he said is not factually incorrect. She should be making the point that today, we should not believe that this country is exclusively *for* white people. That is a slippery slope which Buchanan and others like. It is not and should not be true, or America is not what it claims to be.

  • What??? Rachel's a she??? LOL

  • Pat Buchanan, OWNED by Rachel Maddow

  • Oh Maddow, you mean you! =) Love you and the ED Show more than anyhting on MSNBC. You go girl... expose these Regan era hot shit heads.

  • northern european anglo-saxon protestants have never quite been able to move beyond their natural genetically ingrained "barbarian" problem. thousands of years of raping, pillaging and plundering; of survival based on clan loyalties and brutal bloodlust in battle, of fighting civilization tooth & nail (1st the romans, now genuine democracy) is so deeply a part of their DNA, they can't avoid it.

  • Pat Buchanan is a true patriot. God bless him.

  • @LindyLibertarian Yes, God bless the racist bastard, because I'm sure if there was a God, he'd applaud racism.

  • Pat is right.

  • Indians are the only true Native Americans. All others immigrated here. Buchanan and company, including the bunch on Fox News, are afraid that those groups once oppressed will arise to power and become the oppressors. It's the same as in Exodus, when the Jewish people were forced into slavery. Those used to being in power fear the law of sowing & reaping.

  • Rachel is a big racist, she never dates black men...

  • @owatadikiam Lmao.

  • Why are proud racists like Buchanan even allowed to speak on tv? If someone wants to be racist in this supposedly post-racist era, shouldn't they at least have to hide their racism or else be humiliated into obscurity?

  • Without Slaves, the Irish, Chinese and Mexicans would have been doing all the hard work from the cotton to the mines.

  • Hmmmm....you don't need to be a political or cultural genious to put holes in Buchanan's point of view. Bitter old white man who continues to hold back political progress and keep American's in the dark ages when it comes to racial equity.

  • In 2000, Pat Buchanan became the only presidential nominee of a political party to select a black woman as his running mate.

  • This chick is a lez right? What's with the boyish haircut.

  • What...are you threatened by homosexuals? You do realize don't you that most homophobes are homophobes because they are actually afraid of their own attraction to the same sex?

  • bathswife,

    Yes, those who condemn homosexuality have the precise fear you describe.

    Those who lecture about alcohol consumption are most often alcoholics.

    Those who blast adulterers are typically the ones committing adultery.

    So it goes with any accusation. The accuser is often guilty of the crime he decries.

    And so it must go with racism.

    Who is always accusing others of racism? Liberals.

    Hence, THEY are the racists, and Olbermann and Maddow are the biggest ones of all.

  • how easy would it be to just call him back and confront him? what a coward?

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  • The dirty little secret of the media is that such support would go to blacks and Latinos that are actually poor and disenfranchised rather than to limited minority elites that are already wealthy, connected and CONTROLLED (by nature of their dependency on state granted privileges and appointments) which have turned affirmative action and race mongering into a profit making industry

  • You mean like slavery?

  • If the hypothesis is true then on the basis of that most of the support would primarily go to minorities by social criteria alone

    T

  • To help them however, the proper answer would be quotas and favourable discrimination for the poor and socially underprivileged IRRESPECTIVELY of their colour

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  • *laughing* Ahhh you poor white Americans, you're losing your country. Boo hooo..... *still laughing* LOL x100

  • I suppose you want us to become a third-world Hispanic nation? Buchanan was essentially correct in every syllable he uttered. This country was built by white people...that's just fact with very minor exceptions. Maddow got destroyed and that's why she had to do a solo segment with Buchanan not present.

  • The White House and the railroads and almost all of the south was built by slave labor. Are you saying that if we didn't have slave labor at the beginning of our nation that we would become a third world nation? Just the fact that you call it a "third-world Hispanic nation" shows your own racism. There are plenty of Hispanic nations that are NOT third world. Read American history why don't you? Immigrants know more about our history than you do.

  • Excuse me---didn't you just watch this video? NO,white people DID not built this country by themselves--if they had, WHY the hell did they need slaves to do it? NO, Buchanan knew Rachel would blow holes in everything he said--THAT'S why he didn't return for a rebuttal.

  • @moshady8008

    you are a typical rasict bastard....and a coward!!

  • @moshady8008 Who built your house??? Your car? Who picked your produce? Who made the clothes you wear? White people? I think not.

  • @moshady8008 You, much like Pat Buchanan, are irreparably delusional.

  • So the slaves built the Capitol?

    Really?

    They designed, planned, organized, and financed the construction of the the Capitol?

    Really?

    So Whites had nothing to do with it?

    Or is it more likely that Whites contributed all the mental heavy lifting and slaves contributed the physical heavy lifting?

    Rachel never acknowledges our white heritage, but she drools endlessly about black, hispanic and homosexual acheivements.

  • Well Dave, you have a point. Working relationships are a two-way matter. The job of the employer is to pay the worker, and the job of the worker is to do the work. It's the ultimate cooperative arrangement.

    Oftentimes, we hear that immigrant labor built America. Unfortunately, this statement ignores the job that the employers and the investors had in the process.

    These immigrants did not work for free. Why can't the white collar world get some credit here?

  • You're an idiot. "we hear that immigrant labor built America..." You mean SLAVE labor. Don't forget that element of the immigrants. They weren't here by choice. You're a moron.

  • bathswife,

    I have to agree with your opponent--whoever that is.

    The words "we hear that immigrant labor built America" are so common, they are a cliche.

    When people use these words, they are not talking about slaves--they are talking about immigrants.

    Slaves are not considered immigrants, nor even an element therein; they are considered slaves.

    Not being able to distinguish these two markedly different demographies is your mark of ignorance.

    You should watch the namecalling.

  • Wife--Yes, I'm quite aware of slavery, a practice which claimed my own lineage.

    The defining quality of immigration is the choice one has in leaving. You're the first person in my experience who can't distinguish slaves from immigrants.

    Do you REALLY believe that my ancestors had a choice in whether or not they wanted to come to the United States when they were sold into slavery by African royalty, as your words indicate you do?

    My quote is an old, blue-collar sentiment.

  • black,

    You are correct. When we are told that "immigrants built this country," we are hearing about blue-collar immigrants who came here by choice.

    These immigrants would be aghast in seeing credit for their labor given to slaves.

    In fact, there was quite a rivalry between these two groups; they hated each other.

    Much of what blue-collar workers did was at the expense of slaves.

    As you wrote, your quote has always been understood as a claim of blue-collar immigrants.

  • Excuse me---the BIG difference between slaves and immigrants is that immigrants got paid for their work and were granted the right to be American citizens. Slaves were never paid and were not even considered citizens,let alone given the right to be citizens. You can't even compare the two. Both slaves AND immigrants built this country--you don't have to negate the contribution of one to build up the other. BTW, Pat Buchanan is an old racist-ass fool--glad Rachel challenged his silly old ass.

  • Our WHITE heritage? Oh my god...you're an idiot. Our white heritage is nothing to brag about. Let's see we've enslaved other humans, tried to take over other countries, committed genocide, and the list goes on. Our WHITE heritage is no different than any heritage. It has its good side and its dark side.

  • I wish this kind of fact-correction could be done for Rush Limbaugh's show and Glenn Beck's show and Bill O'Reilly's show, etc. I know correcting the lies and misrepresentations for each episode would require several days, but it would be worth it.

  • Keith Olbermann sometimes tries to do that. Too bad Faux news doesn't care about facts and that sort of thing.

  • I saw her original exchange with Buchanan to which she is referring here. Maddow is mispresenting him.

    More to the point, Maddow and Olbermann are FAR bigger racists than Buchanan. Only ignorant people can't see this.

  • And how is this? This guy is one of the biggest racial arsonist you can ever imagine.

  • This is how. Buchanan is not a racial arsonist, and Olbermann and Maddow are.

  • oh yeah thats very good. Just by u saying t therefore that makes them racial arsonist. Dumbass.

  • 289--Oh yeah, that's very good. Buchanan is one of the biggest racial arsonists we could ever imagine just by your saying so. Dumbass.

  • good job you know how to repeat what i said. And honestly I dont really need to show anything about Pat Buchanan that makes him a racial arsonist. If you actually listen to what he says he sounds like someone from the KKK. Hell you two should join

  • And if you actually listen to all three of them, you would know who the racial arsons are. For every time that Pat tries to stir the pot by bringing up the subject of racism or by charging someone with the activity, Rachel and Keith do it ten times. (I can't even count the number of times Keith has called someone a racist this year alone.)

    It's too bad Keith and Rachel don't take the matter more seriously.

    BTW--The KKK doesn't admit African-Americans.

  • Shut up you idiot and buy a brain you racist prick.