Herinderdrew, thanks for your comment, unfortunately I can not clearly understand the point of your statement. I am happy to discuss my video further and hope that you may clarify your point of view. Cheers, Nigel
Hence Indians of Anglo Indian descent think they pure white because of their inherited physical traits i am deeply sorry but that is a load of rubbish being squandered by people who don't want face what really happened in India.
Indian are wither half breeds or full breaded Indians that is a fact if you then say to me that to preserve these Anglos as full Europeans try telling neo nazi from Germany or British racist that and then see how you are accepted., you will soon see how run .
weather you accept this or not Anglo Indian people are not pure Europeans, They have been part of India and part of the sad British mutiny that co-existed during the day of the British empire. Europeans did come to India and they did rape many Indian women, due to deprivation, but i don't think the Anglo Indian community needs to preserved, it has wake up and identify some of the human rights abuses white, European people inflicted on India, hence producing Anglo or euro
My sirname is henderson and my grand dad with this sirname was born in Agra, does anyone know of Hendersons living in India and more importantly, in Agra?
My Granddad was born in Agra neer the Taj Mahal, i'm not sure where my grandmother was born but she's also anglo-indian. They came to England after the partition and my dad was born here . My father met my mother who is of Irish & English descent. They divorced when I was young, I didn't know my father very well and I didn't meet my indian grand parents, in Jan this year my dadpast away at the young age of 43. I am really curious to find out more information on my Indian roots.
Nigel, I have not been able to access the website. Hope it will be on soon. I am not an Anglo Indian but I have fond memories of all those dedicated teachers who helped same me. I respect and cherish these memories. You are doing a good job. Keep it up
Nimajji, My family worked on the Railways in Ajmeer, Bandikui and MOW. I have visited my Grandfather's homes, the Indian families living there were good enough to let me video inside. It was a great moment, to stand in those houses and see where my fore fathers lived. The Indian families understood the importance of my visit and made me feel welcome. My research continues in India, I was there in '05 and '06 and I may be visiting again this year. Please keep your comments coming, thanks.
Nigel, God Bless...your interview reminded me of my teachers in Bangalore. I thank God that they taught English to me in those formative years (esp). I wish you would conduct your research in India too. The A.I. community had a huge presence in the Railways, in teaching & in nursing. They were an extremely friendly bunch & I feel hurt that they did not 'fit in' in post-independence India. On my last visit to Blore, I saw remnants of post-colonialism disappear. We need to preserve your history.
Hi to all, I would appreciate it if comments are free from too many coarse words. It is great to debate and one may better listen to a reply if it is free of anger.
The majority have left and still continuie to leave the sub continent. They speak english and think they are superior to native peoples. They do not have the blood of the sub continent and I don't care if we're all humans but if a European ever dares step one foot on the sub continent to conquer it he can watch his home back in Europe turned to glass. All euros can go back to the cold dark north where they came from. These ANGLO's are not Indian
Bengaliashoka, stop with the rasist comments allready! whats wrong with you, your railway, and system still resembles in the times of british rule, india had nothing like that before! and mate the reason why my family left is because u didnt make us feel welcome!, yet in england many indians seek resedence. we welcome them!, a racist always a racist thats all u are if u dont like us then stay off these channels!
The reason you left is because you cunts thought you were better than real Indians. I'm glad you fucked off and don't ever return. India is a rising superpower and modernising at an exponential rate. The British railway system is a piece of shit. The ones in east asia like Japan are the way to go.
You know what, you are a big piece of shit, i do not care what u think, my family help educate u indians, but as u only except swearing, i shall say FUCK YOU!
You are so thick, all my cousins are TEACHERS! teaching in your schools in india! how dare u call me a half breed! you are just a pure breed ASS HOLE LOL! you prick
we fucked off because india wasnt stable, and broke apart when british left, u couldnt even keep your country 1, piss off you big piece of shit, besides u look like a half breed, i thought u people were black? look into your history perhaps u have white blood running through your veins, u prick!
There are many native races in the sub continent, and lots of native variation in skin tone. I am from a territory that never had British soldiers or administrators in it. India is a rising superpower and would sit on your "Great" Britain, your comment shows how you are not an indian at all but a disgusting half breed parasite. Tell your family to leave and never return. All the better while India rises and the western world falls lol.
Dude you are and ignorant dumbass. India before england holded more then 20% of world trade that almost matches Americas in 2000. "u couldnt even keep your country 1" You couldnt hold your colonys and lost India to Gandhi. "i thought u people were black" You are seriously an ignorant fuck. Im not black im light brown. Thats like me saying I though you Brits have fucked up teeth.
I have relatives and friends in India. They have contributed to India, their homeland, and will continue to do so. Their is no dispute as to their loyalty to India....check the records of the Pakistani War in the 60's. Members of my family and many A-I's served in the Indian Forces and were highly decorated and respected.
We are all members of one race...the human race. However, to discover and celebrate one's roots is a right. I hope we may discuss this subject further. Regards, Nigel
No Nigel, you're not Indian nor are your half blood relatives. You are the physical embodiment of European occupation of the sub continent. The day the last of your kind disappear will be a good day. I advocate all anglos leave for europe and never return
I wouldn't be proud of having my great great grandmother fucked by some east india company british ass hole who conquered say Bengal, slaughtering Indians. If you are proud of that then I feel sorry for you.
I wouldn't fuck them and have kids, and I have no opportunity living in a non white nation but then again neither did your grandmothers have a choice. They were just raped by the British. You're not Indian, you take pride in your grandmmothers rape or of the sub continent. You are english now fuck off and never mention the sub continent again.
Hi BengaliAshoka, unfortunately it is sad that many indian women were raped by the british, giving rise to anglo-indians. However, to proclaim that anglo-indians are not indian is hypocritical, not to mention ignorant. Anglo-indians are of indian blood just as they are of british-blood (whether you like it or not).
They represent the inherent weakness of the sub continent to defend itself. All the nations of the sub continent should be run by their indigenous ppl. It fucks me off to see India being run by Italians.
All indians, including former indians (i.e., bengalis and pakistanis) are a mix, a mix of middleseastern, european and mongoloid blood. NO indians, i repeat, NO indians are purebreeds. The dravidians (the true indian purebreeds) have long since died out and/or mixed with other races. Anglo-indians of indian blood are indian whether you like it or not.
Bengali's are descended from Austro-Asiatic and Dravidian peoples, all indigenous to the sub continent. In the case of BD this is even greater as for most of that area's history it was too remote for marauding armies.
They don't belong in India or any part of the sub continent. I am not pissing on my people, they're not my people.
My people are the Bengali's, the only Indians I have a link with are Indian Bengali's.
Bengalis are "descended from Austro-Asiatic and Dravidian peoples, AND CLOSELY RELATED TO THE ASSAMESE, BIHARIS AND OTHER EAST INDIANS" - wikipedia. They closely resemble other east indians because other east indians are ALSO descendents of dravidians and austro-asiatic peoples, AND indo-aryan peoples (i.e., north indians, like myself) who are also part of the ancient gene pool of bengalis.
"BIHARIS AND OTHER EAST INDIANS"- Of course, they are regionally close to us and for a long time were part of Bengal. That does not mean a punjabi and Bengali are the same race. Half of my country is with India today, I don't care since that's their decision but you get what I'm saying. The "aryan" invasion has never been completely substantiated and much debate goes on whether such a race exists or whether it was indigenous to India. Again you fail
In that case, you should separate the different tribes/races within your country too and trash your "bengali unity" riot. lol. what are you gonna start dividing people based on ass size next?? how about we segregate the bengalis who live on the north side of dhaka from the bengalis who live on the south side of dhaka. in fact, take those bengalis and segregate them too!!! Big ass vs small ass. left-handed vs right handed. hypocrite. indians are closely linked to bengalis. end of story. fag.
"you should separate the different tribes/races within your country"- Listen R-tard Bangladesh is 98% Bengali. It's a racially homogeneous country unlike India.
And I know you're attracted to me but this constant mentioning of homsexuality will come to no avail as I unfortunately for you don't swing that way but thanks for the compliments and India has gay rights now so you're sorted;)
Tribal people in your country still account for 2%. So, you should segregate them and stop your "our blood is the same, let's unify and conquer the universe" rant. lol.
The tribal population in BD has been falling due to settler migration into the hill tract region. A significant portion of them have moved to India and they already are segregated. They';ve been fighting to separate themselves from Bd just as your tribals have been doing the same in India. The recent peace treaty between the BD govt and tribals gave them limited autonomy in their own region. But that is beside the point as they are not significant enough to warrant such a thing. BD is Bengali.
India isn't a nation based on one ethnicity you fool, it's like the EU it contains many races. Ergo the statement we are the same people does not apply to Indians and Bengalis let alone Indians being genetically the same people. But that doesn't matter, Anglo Indians are not indigenous to the sub continent and go back to Europe where they belong. This pussified attitude amongst the Indians to invaders and their spawn is why you'll always be conquered.
never said it was one whole race. its a mix of many races, but all essentially are close. very close. hence, appearance. there are some differences in appearance among the different races in india. but there more similarities than differences. bengalis are genetically linked to indians. desi is desi. fag.
Bull shit, the europeans look similar but they are not one countryt. Latin Americans look similar but they are not one country. Putting BD and India together would be the worst decision in history. The death toll of partition x1000 due to religious and sectarian violence idiot.
I'm tired. I don't really feel like researching the web just to prove a point to a pompous kid who thinks BD is the greatest thing since sliced bread. you win. BD is superior, it's the best. their food is the best, their women are the best, they are just top notch. happy? go take a tranquilizer kid and leave the rest of humanity alone.
"I don't really feel like researching the web"- No it's because you';re stupid and don't know how to debate nor do you use the facts or have any substantiated facts in your favour. I have not claimed BD is superior but I have claimed it is separate and its sovereignty as an independent nation as unquestionable fag tard.
Bengalis and Indians are very close, culturally and genetically. End of story. lol. Sorry for the fag comment, i guess that really pushed your buttons. lol.
Here's some info: "Sforza found that Indians are about three times closer to West Europeans than to East Asians. Dr. Eduardas Valaitis, in 2006, found that India is genetically closest to East and Southeast Asians with about 15 percent more genetic similarity than to Europeans; ...
... he also found that India could be considered very distinct from other regions.[7] Genetic anthropologist Stanley Marion Garn considered in the 1960s that the entirety of the Indian Subcontinent to be a "race" genetically distinct from other populations" (wikipedia). Indian subcontinent = india, pakistan, sri lanka, bangladesh. Be one. Stop segregating.
The genetic views on race differ in their classification of Dravidians. According to population geneticist L.L. Cavalli-Sforza of Stanford, based on work done in the 1980s, Indians are genetically Caucasian, but Lewontin rejects the label Caucasian. Cavalli-Sforza found that Indians are about three times closer to West Europeans than to East Asians.[7.... and so it continues, this is where you got your 1960's quote from. That quote was not a conclusion but one view idiot.
Exactly, a view that I share. I was the first to state that indians are no genetically cohesive (i.e., "no indians are purebreeds"). However, they stand apart, ethnically and genetically, from other populations.
In the last 25 years a number of genetic studies on the populations of the Indian subcontinent have been conducted. Unfortunately, most of the studies covered a limited number of genetic systems, and only a few provide information on the genetic differentiation and population structure of some regional caste, tribal, religious, and urban groups. Despite a recent report suggesting that in eastern India genetic affinity does not show any large degree of congruence with sociocultural hierarchy...
.In general, genetic differentiation in populations of India is low (0.26-1.7%), but overall genetic differentiation in 18 mixed populations of India is higher (2.23%), similar to the largest single study on 16 tribal groups from central India (2.18%). The tribal population of South India shows the highest FST value (4.1%), and this value is similar to a study of the Dhangar caste group
That was from the same paper as your (0.26-1.7% quote, next time rad it fully ass hole instead of quote mining
I read it fully. It says, "18 populations," not all populations. lol. It also says that for those specific tribes, of which those figures are exclusive to, the high-er genetic variation is likely due to inbreeding. And those high-er figures apply to specific indiginous tribes in India, not the general population in India, crackhead. Hmm, inbreeding... wonder if that's the reason your country is so genetically homogenious...
"A recent study based on autosomal microsatellite markers has inferred that Indian populations
show low levels of genetic differentiation" (Rosenberg et al., 2006). India isn't genetically homogenious, by arbitary scientific cutoffs, but it's definately distinct from other regions.
"Three distinct surveys reported here indicate that geographic proximity, ethnohistory, and biosocial and cultural affiliation are important determinants of genetic affinity... In general, genetic differentiation in populations of India is low (0.26-1.7%)" (Human Biology).
"The haplogroup W is found IN Pakistan, Kashmir and Punjab. It is rare further east and not to be found in India." From Nait Metspalu et al., Most of the extant mtDNA boundaries in South and Southwest Asia were likely shaped during the initial settlement of Eurasia by anatomically modern humans. BMC Genetics, 2004.
Most of the genetic studies on India have either been localised or too small to draw any meaningful generalised conclusions as admitted in the summary's of your papers which you can get fully in pdf format. You're a quote mining ass. Using sources to quote mine is not the same as winning an argument. You are a sub par human, try harder or fuck off because you are getting boring and this has nothing to do with anglo indians.
In that case, no information you provide, whether from wiki or the articles I dig up for you, can be trusted enough to draw finite conclusions from, because NON have collected samples that are truly large enough to be externally valid!!! All any study of this nature can do is infer, or at the most suggest a theory. This was merely information i found that supports my view. never said it was the be all and end all dipstick. never said india was genetically homogenious either.
Europeans are genetically linked to other europeans, every race of man is genetically linked. 98% of our genes are identical to the genes of Chimps. I use facts unlike you. History and circumstance make any unification retarded. What's done is done get over it. And luckily the majority of Indians are smart enough not to want unification with BD so your stupid rant on unification is pointless and has nothing to do with anglo indians.
Exactly. We're all linked. It only took you about 50 posts to fall into my trap. Love mankind, stop spreading hate (especially amongst people that are genetically and culturally similar to you) and shut your pie hole. lol.
"Exactly. We're all linked. It only took you about 50 posts to fall into my trap."- You are an R-tard, what trap? The fact that humanity is the same species and that chimps are 98% genetically identical to us. So you want one world govt and equal rights for chimps? Your sad little fantasy is not going to happen.
Nothing wrong with chimps. Some of 'em, no, all of 'em probably have more brains than you. Only a pea-brained fanatic nutcase like yourself would be stupid enough to shun his or her own neighbours and make enemies with potential allies. The ethnicities of bengalis and indians are very close. Celebrate your differences, but acknowledge, and respect, your history. Without india, you'd have no flag to shove down people's throats.
This is my last reply to you as I can feel my intelligence drop from conversing with u. You are stating that my country be dissolved, I am not the one shoving my flag anywhere you dumb cunt taht is you. I have not stated war or hate for India but two nations living side by side you dumb cunt. And we were already pushing the Pakis back but it was bloody, Indians came in at the last moment. And I am a hypermodernist, I care not for past glories but glories of the future.
this is just a power trip for you. it's your power trip of trying to segregate indian from bengladesh and indians from indians that pulls us apart and enables us to be conquered. these countries should pull together to avoid being conquered, not engage in verbal wars against eachother based on what specific indian race they are and start wars with one another because of that. india helped your country gain independence. ingrate.
India helped out of necessity but we were winning the war anyway, it would have simply been bloodier which wouldn't have been a huge deal as we'd already paid a heavy price for nine months of war.
Size doesn't matter, technology and efficiency do. Look at Israel holding 339,510,535 arabs at bay.
There is no us, there hasn't been an us for a long time. India was united and obliterated by the armies of the west. The mughals conquered a united India. Size mean nothing, it is Science and effective leadership which decide the fate of nations R-tard. Britain is a tiny island yet by becoming the Scientific centre of the world had the largest empire, today the scientific centre is the USA: Microsoft, Apple, Dell- go figure they ruin the world
lol - you own me intellectually? lol. anyone can spend the day looking up facts on wikipedia. At least i cite my sources. you plagerize. wow, thank god for wikipedia or else what would little BD boy have to shoot back with?? I'm impressed, you went to such great lengths to research your country, and Europe. A for effort.
Hmm, bengalis and indians - look similar,... a little shorter and darker than us on average, but generally look similar. hmm, why is this?? Logic and common sense would suggest that they look alike because they have descended, for the most part, from the SAME PEOPLE. Nice try tho kid.
You are such a tool, they are not the same people. There are hundreds of different races within the sub continent. Southern Europeans are different from Northern nordic Europeans. This is the truth. Logic and common sense go into the genetic intricacies not childish skin deep crap.
I agree, no one likes a pompous indian, but c'mon, if you think bengalis are so culturally and genetically different from indians, you shouldn't take offence to anglo-indians being stuck up, or italians running the country (since it's according to you it's not your country).
And FYI - you're pissing on your own people on this page. You too are an indian (i don't care how much of a fanatic bengali you are) bengladesh was india. Oh and I saw you're page lol. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. lol.
I'm not an Indian, Bengal (west Bengal+ bangladesh+ Assam and a few otehrs) was its own independent kingdom for most of the last 2,000yrs. The Pala dynasty the firs tBengali king Shashanka, Bangladesh being the bread basket of the kingdom was a peaceful backwaters of the kingdom and so many invasions ignored as it was too remote and not politically important.The last time Bangladesh was properly part of any real Bharat was at the beginning when it was part of the original states of Maghada which
... was the state that gave rise to the Mauryan empire, which was the first empire to unite the sub continent and conquer into Persia. It was my ancestors and the peoples of Eastern India who created the first Bharat so don't tell me what my history is alright. But taht empire died over 2,000yrs ago.
@BengaliAshoka Ironically, the British said the same thing when the Anglo's started arriving in England. Thanks for proving that ignorant people seldom change.
@BengaliAshoka How could you say something like that ? When all of the Sub Continent is one big mixture of people,from Greeks,Arabs,Turks,Persian (Iranian),Mongol,Tibetan,Burmese and Dravidan.They are half breeds ? What the hell does that suppose to mean ?! Your Hindu lust for purity is a sham.Its non-existent.Its why you were so divided and the British and every other invader Capitalized on it.And subjugated native Indians for Centuries.
Nigel this is just an idea: How about taking a wing in Kolkata's Victoria Memorial for a permanent display of your archive? After all, Kolkata was founded by a Brit, Job Charnoc, who married an Indian widow (whom he rescued from becoming sutee) and thereby sired one of the first lines of illustrious anglo-indians.
Great project Nigel. Glad that someone has finally decided to record and archive Anglo-Indian culture and preserve it. It would be great if people could contribute and share stories, videos, anecdotes etc...to Nigel's project. The Anglo-Indian community's contribution to education, sports and music in India would be well worth recording.
I consider myself an anglo indian, my Grandmother was anglo indian from india, both her parents were anglo indians, i am so proud to be anglo indian, we are unique with our food and language, i am as white as can be, but i cook and talk anglo indian!, i am proud to be anglo indian, my cultre is so special, we even have our own flag! :) i would love to help in any way possible, i have loads of anglo indian relative still living in india! as well as uk, scotland, canada and australia
Hi, and thanks for your note. One vital job is to record your families aural history, copy photographs and documents for safe keeping. If you are able to, make your own video and send it to us at the Heritage Centre for our collection. All the best, Nigel
nigel, i will putyou into contactto a lady who is doing the same thing that you are doing here in uk, it would be wise for you both to team up! yes i have so much to give, a few of my auntys have died but still many relatives living i will contact you soon about this thanks
BengaliAshoka!, wow u are so racist, my anglo indian family in india contrubte to india, i have teachers, doctors, engeners in my family they all hold indian pasports, if u look into the history of this, you will find porgugise settlements aswell, we most probley make a better roti, than u my friend!, i hope that u will loose your rasism with these people who hold wonderful jobs in india!
I am happy to be anglo indian and to find out more about the "hidden" community. There are some facts at wikipedia under search for anglo indians. i came to UK when I was 4 years old and had an identity crisis at school because we are such a minority.
The problem is the younger generation of anglo indians have no pride. The don't want to associate themselves with the word indian at all. They are a people who have indured for centuries, they now will not endure then next few decades. Sad but true - from a 30 year old anglo indian Melb Australia
We Anglos were created, and hence we have contributed in cash and kind and brains and all.Yet till today we are only a third class citizen in the eyes of the leaders who have given us only two MP seats to begin with.Its time more MP seats are given to the remaining Anglos, who are off a mixed family background today.
The mother being an Anglo and the father a non-anglo.So many of these mixed children are being ignored and made to fend for themselves.
Thank you for this! My family moved from India(Calcutta) in 1960 to London. We were 'anglo's' part French/Spanish.England was really strange back then..not what we expected. Nevertheless
most of my family have since passed away and i moved to Canada in 2000. Life has been a very strange ride so far but i think we left India just before things got real bad for A.I's. I sometimes think i'm the only ango-indian left! (i've just turned 50)
Hi my family also moved from India (Chennai) in 1959/60 to London. I've just turned 60 and yes, I too sometimes think I'm the only anglo-indian left. God Bless
Herinderdrew, thanks for your comment, unfortunately I can not clearly understand the point of your statement. I am happy to discuss my video further and hope that you may clarify your point of view. Cheers, Nigel
angloindian1 5 months ago
Hence Indians of Anglo Indian descent think they pure white because of their inherited physical traits i am deeply sorry but that is a load of rubbish being squandered by people who don't want face what really happened in India.
Indian are wither half breeds or full breaded Indians that is a fact if you then say to me that to preserve these Anglos as full Europeans try telling neo nazi from Germany or British racist that and then see how you are accepted., you will soon see how run .
herinderdrew 5 months ago
Hello Nigel
weather you accept this or not Anglo Indian people are not pure Europeans, They have been part of India and part of the sad British mutiny that co-existed during the day of the British empire. Europeans did come to India and they did rape many Indian women, due to deprivation, but i don't think the Anglo Indian community needs to preserved, it has wake up and identify some of the human rights abuses white, European people inflicted on India, hence producing Anglo or euro
herinderdrew 5 months ago
My sirname is henderson and my grand dad with this sirname was born in Agra, does anyone know of Hendersons living in India and more importantly, in Agra?
calumbo63 6 months ago
My Granddad was born in Agra neer the Taj Mahal, i'm not sure where my grandmother was born but she's also anglo-indian. They came to England after the partition and my dad was born here . My father met my mother who is of Irish & English descent. They divorced when I was young, I didn't know my father very well and I didn't meet my indian grand parents, in Jan this year my dadpast away at the young age of 43. I am really curious to find out more information on my Indian roots.
calumbo63 6 months ago
Please find the Anglo-Indiam Heritage Centre on Facebook with many videos.
Join the page and contribute to share your stories. Regards and thanks, Nigel
angloindian1 9 months ago
Nigel, I have not been able to access the website. Hope it will be on soon. I am not an Anglo Indian but I have fond memories of all those dedicated teachers who helped same me. I respect and cherish these memories. You are doing a good job. Keep it up
breezingthru 1 year ago
2pac forever
ceejay247 1 year ago
I hate Bengalis
beatlefied70 2 years ago
I never even heard of this ethnicity a year ago. Most Americans haven't heard of them
Robtseward 2 years ago
Nimajji, My family worked on the Railways in Ajmeer, Bandikui and MOW. I have visited my Grandfather's homes, the Indian families living there were good enough to let me video inside. It was a great moment, to stand in those houses and see where my fore fathers lived. The Indian families understood the importance of my visit and made me feel welcome. My research continues in India, I was there in '05 and '06 and I may be visiting again this year. Please keep your comments coming, thanks.
angloindian1 2 years ago
Nigel, God Bless...your interview reminded me of my teachers in Bangalore. I thank God that they taught English to me in those formative years (esp). I wish you would conduct your research in India too. The A.I. community had a huge presence in the Railways, in teaching & in nursing. They were an extremely friendly bunch & I feel hurt that they did not 'fit in' in post-independence India. On my last visit to Blore, I saw remnants of post-colonialism disappear. We need to preserve your history.
nimajji 2 years ago
Hi to all, I would appreciate it if comments are free from too many coarse words. It is great to debate and one may better listen to a reply if it is free of anger.
Thanks to all, Nigel
angloindian1 2 years ago
The majority have left and still continuie to leave the sub continent. They speak english and think they are superior to native peoples. They do not have the blood of the sub continent and I don't care if we're all humans but if a European ever dares step one foot on the sub continent to conquer it he can watch his home back in Europe turned to glass. All euros can go back to the cold dark north where they came from. These ANGLO's are not Indian
BengaliAshoka 2 years ago
Bengaliashoka, stop with the rasist comments allready! whats wrong with you, your railway, and system still resembles in the times of british rule, india had nothing like that before! and mate the reason why my family left is because u didnt make us feel welcome!, yet in england many indians seek resedence. we welcome them!, a racist always a racist thats all u are if u dont like us then stay off these channels!
cosmic4peace 2 years ago
The reason you left is because you cunts thought you were better than real Indians. I'm glad you fucked off and don't ever return. India is a rising superpower and modernising at an exponential rate. The British railway system is a piece of shit. The ones in east asia like Japan are the way to go.
BengaliAshoka 2 years ago
You know what, you are a big piece of shit, i do not care what u think, my family help educate u indians, but as u only except swearing, i shall say FUCK YOU!
cosmic4peace 2 years ago
"my family help educate u indians"- proves my point "you Indians", now fuck off and stop pretending to be one of us you dirty half breed.
BengaliAshoka 2 years ago
You are so thick, all my cousins are TEACHERS! teaching in your schools in india! how dare u call me a half breed! you are just a pure breed ASS HOLE LOL! you prick
cosmic4peace 2 years ago
Your cousins should be shipped out of the sub continent. I'm glad you fucked off, tell that to the rest of your family
BengaliAshoka 2 years ago
we fucked off because india wasnt stable, and broke apart when british left, u couldnt even keep your country 1, piss off you big piece of shit, besides u look like a half breed, i thought u people were black? look into your history perhaps u have white blood running through your veins, u prick!
cosmic4peace 2 years ago
There are many native races in the sub continent, and lots of native variation in skin tone. I am from a territory that never had British soldiers or administrators in it. India is a rising superpower and would sit on your "Great" Britain, your comment shows how you are not an indian at all but a disgusting half breed parasite. Tell your family to leave and never return. All the better while India rises and the western world falls lol.
BengaliAshoka 2 years ago
Dude you are and ignorant dumbass. India before england holded more then 20% of world trade that almost matches Americas in 2000. "u couldnt even keep your country 1" You couldnt hold your colonys and lost India to Gandhi. "i thought u people were black" You are seriously an ignorant fuck. Im not black im light brown. Thats like me saying I though you Brits have fucked up teeth.
BengalG3 2 years ago
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Anglo Indians are half breeds who should be all sent to Britain. They are not of the sub continent. Fuck them.
BengaliAshoka 2 years ago
I have relatives and friends in India. They have contributed to India, their homeland, and will continue to do so. Their is no dispute as to their loyalty to India....check the records of the Pakistani War in the 60's. Members of my family and many A-I's served in the Indian Forces and were highly decorated and respected.
We are all members of one race...the human race. However, to discover and celebrate one's roots is a right. I hope we may discuss this subject further. Regards, Nigel
angloindian1 2 years ago
No Nigel, you're not Indian nor are your half blood relatives. You are the physical embodiment of European occupation of the sub continent. The day the last of your kind disappear will be a good day. I advocate all anglos leave for europe and never return
BengaliAshoka 2 years ago
I wouldn't be proud of having my great great grandmother fucked by some east india company british ass hole who conquered say Bengal, slaughtering Indians. If you are proud of that then I feel sorry for you.
BengaliAshoka 2 years ago
you are so full of shit, i have been to your page and seen all those "gorie" girls that u have been flirting with, white girls lol! 2 faced prick!
cosmic4peace 2 years ago
I wouldn't fuck them and have kids, and I have no opportunity living in a non white nation but then again neither did your grandmothers have a choice. They were just raped by the British. You're not Indian, you take pride in your grandmmothers rape or of the sub continent. You are english now fuck off and never mention the sub continent again.
BengaliAshoka 2 years ago
Hi BengaliAshoka, unfortunately it is sad that many indian women were raped by the british, giving rise to anglo-indians. However, to proclaim that anglo-indians are not indian is hypocritical, not to mention ignorant. Anglo-indians are of indian blood just as they are of british-blood (whether you like it or not).
hybridstrength09 2 years ago 2
No they're not, these punks always go with their British ancestry and I'm ok with that. I don't want them in the sub continent.
BengaliAshoka 2 years ago
They represent the inherent weakness of the sub continent to defend itself. All the nations of the sub continent should be run by their indigenous ppl. It fucks me off to see India being run by Italians.
BengaliAshoka 2 years ago
All indians, including former indians (i.e., bengalis and pakistanis) are a mix, a mix of middleseastern, european and mongoloid blood. NO indians, i repeat, NO indians are purebreeds. The dravidians (the true indian purebreeds) have long since died out and/or mixed with other races. Anglo-indians of indian blood are indian whether you like it or not.
hybridstrength09 2 years ago 2
Bengali's are descended from Austro-Asiatic and Dravidian peoples, all indigenous to the sub continent. In the case of BD this is even greater as for most of that area's history it was too remote for marauding armies.
They don't belong in India or any part of the sub continent. I am not pissing on my people, they're not my people.
My people are the Bengali's, the only Indians I have a link with are Indian Bengali's.
BengaliAshoka 2 years ago
Bengalis are "descended from Austro-Asiatic and Dravidian peoples, AND CLOSELY RELATED TO THE ASSAMESE, BIHARIS AND OTHER EAST INDIANS" - wikipedia. They closely resemble other east indians because other east indians are ALSO descendents of dravidians and austro-asiatic peoples, AND indo-aryan peoples (i.e., north indians, like myself) who are also part of the ancient gene pool of bengalis.
hybridstrength09 2 years ago
"BIHARIS AND OTHER EAST INDIANS"- Of course, they are regionally close to us and for a long time were part of Bengal. That does not mean a punjabi and Bengali are the same race. Half of my country is with India today, I don't care since that's their decision but you get what I'm saying. The "aryan" invasion has never been completely substantiated and much debate goes on whether such a race exists or whether it was indigenous to India. Again you fail
BengaliAshoka 2 years ago
In that case, you should separate the different tribes/races within your country too and trash your "bengali unity" riot. lol. what are you gonna start dividing people based on ass size next?? how about we segregate the bengalis who live on the north side of dhaka from the bengalis who live on the south side of dhaka. in fact, take those bengalis and segregate them too!!! Big ass vs small ass. left-handed vs right handed. hypocrite. indians are closely linked to bengalis. end of story. fag.
hybridstrength09 2 years ago
"you should separate the different tribes/races within your country"- Listen R-tard Bangladesh is 98% Bengali. It's a racially homogeneous country unlike India.
And I know you're attracted to me but this constant mentioning of homsexuality will come to no avail as I unfortunately for you don't swing that way but thanks for the compliments and India has gay rights now so you're sorted;)
BengaliAshoka 2 years ago
lol - pushed your buttons?
hybridstrength09 2 years ago
Tribal people in your country still account for 2%. So, you should segregate them and stop your "our blood is the same, let's unify and conquer the universe" rant. lol.
hybridstrength09 2 years ago
The tribal population in BD has been falling due to settler migration into the hill tract region. A significant portion of them have moved to India and they already are segregated. They';ve been fighting to separate themselves from Bd just as your tribals have been doing the same in India. The recent peace treaty between the BD govt and tribals gave them limited autonomy in their own region. But that is beside the point as they are not significant enough to warrant such a thing. BD is Bengali.
BengaliAshoka 2 years ago
great, less work for you then ; )
hybridstrength09 2 years ago
Who said i was a man? lol. Neither of us are men. ; )
hybridstrength09 2 years ago
India isn't a nation based on one ethnicity you fool, it's like the EU it contains many races. Ergo the statement we are the same people does not apply to Indians and Bengalis let alone Indians being genetically the same people. But that doesn't matter, Anglo Indians are not indigenous to the sub continent and go back to Europe where they belong. This pussified attitude amongst the Indians to invaders and their spawn is why you'll always be conquered.
BengaliAshoka 2 years ago
never said it was one whole race. its a mix of many races, but all essentially are close. very close. hence, appearance. there are some differences in appearance among the different races in india. but there more similarities than differences. bengalis are genetically linked to indians. desi is desi. fag.
hybridstrength09 2 years ago
Bull shit, the europeans look similar but they are not one countryt. Latin Americans look similar but they are not one country. Putting BD and India together would be the worst decision in history. The death toll of partition x1000 due to religious and sectarian violence idiot.
BengaliAshoka 2 years ago
I'm tired. I don't really feel like researching the web just to prove a point to a pompous kid who thinks BD is the greatest thing since sliced bread. you win. BD is superior, it's the best. their food is the best, their women are the best, they are just top notch. happy? go take a tranquilizer kid and leave the rest of humanity alone.
hybridstrength09 2 years ago
"I don't really feel like researching the web"- No it's because you';re stupid and don't know how to debate nor do you use the facts or have any substantiated facts in your favour. I have not claimed BD is superior but I have claimed it is separate and its sovereignty as an independent nation as unquestionable fag tard.
BengaliAshoka 2 years ago
Bengalis and Indians are very close, culturally and genetically. End of story. lol. Sorry for the fag comment, i guess that really pushed your buttons. lol.
hybridstrength09 2 years ago
Here's some info: "Sforza found that Indians are about three times closer to West Europeans than to East Asians. Dr. Eduardas Valaitis, in 2006, found that India is genetically closest to East and Southeast Asians with about 15 percent more genetic similarity than to Europeans; ...
hybridstrength09 2 years ago
... he also found that India could be considered very distinct from other regions.[7] Genetic anthropologist Stanley Marion Garn considered in the 1960s that the entirety of the Indian Subcontinent to be a "race" genetically distinct from other populations" (wikipedia). Indian subcontinent = india, pakistan, sri lanka, bangladesh. Be one. Stop segregating.
hybridstrength09 2 years ago
The Dravidian race
The genetic views on race differ in their classification of Dravidians. According to population geneticist L.L. Cavalli-Sforza of Stanford, based on work done in the 1980s, Indians are genetically Caucasian, but Lewontin rejects the label Caucasian. Cavalli-Sforza found that Indians are about three times closer to West Europeans than to East Asians.[7.... and so it continues, this is where you got your 1960's quote from. That quote was not a conclusion but one view idiot.
BengaliAshoka 2 years ago
Exactly, a view that I share. I was the first to state that indians are no genetically cohesive (i.e., "no indians are purebreeds"). However, they stand apart, ethnically and genetically, from other populations.
hybridstrength09 2 years ago
In the last 25 years a number of genetic studies on the populations of the Indian subcontinent have been conducted. Unfortunately, most of the studies covered a limited number of genetic systems, and only a few provide information on the genetic differentiation and population structure of some regional caste, tribal, religious, and urban groups. Despite a recent report suggesting that in eastern India genetic affinity does not show any large degree of congruence with sociocultural hierarchy...
BengaliAshoka 2 years ago
.In general, genetic differentiation in populations of India is low (0.26-1.7%), but overall genetic differentiation in 18 mixed populations of India is higher (2.23%), similar to the largest single study on 16 tribal groups from central India (2.18%). The tribal population of South India shows the highest FST value (4.1%), and this value is similar to a study of the Dhangar caste group
That was from the same paper as your (0.26-1.7% quote, next time rad it fully ass hole instead of quote mining
BengaliAshoka 2 years ago
I read it fully. It says, "18 populations," not all populations. lol. It also says that for those specific tribes, of which those figures are exclusive to, the high-er genetic variation is likely due to inbreeding. And those high-er figures apply to specific indiginous tribes in India, not the general population in India, crackhead. Hmm, inbreeding... wonder if that's the reason your country is so genetically homogenious...
hybridstrength09 2 years ago
"A recent study based on autosomal microsatellite markers has inferred that Indian populations
show low levels of genetic differentiation" (Rosenberg et al., 2006). India isn't genetically homogenious, by arbitary scientific cutoffs, but it's definately distinct from other regions.
hybridstrength09 2 years ago
"Three distinct surveys reported here indicate that geographic proximity, ethnohistory, and biosocial and cultural affiliation are important determinants of genetic affinity... In general, genetic differentiation in populations of India is low (0.26-1.7%)" (Human Biology).
hybridstrength09 2 years ago
"The haplogroup W is found IN Pakistan, Kashmir and Punjab. It is rare further east and not to be found in India." From Nait Metspalu et al., Most of the extant mtDNA boundaries in South and Southwest Asia were likely shaped during the initial settlement of Eurasia by anatomically modern humans. BMC Genetics, 2004.
BengaliAshoka 2 years ago
So what??
hybridstrength09 2 years ago
Most of the genetic studies on India have either been localised or too small to draw any meaningful generalised conclusions as admitted in the summary's of your papers which you can get fully in pdf format. You're a quote mining ass. Using sources to quote mine is not the same as winning an argument. You are a sub par human, try harder or fuck off because you are getting boring and this has nothing to do with anglo indians.
BengaliAshoka 2 years ago
In that case, no information you provide, whether from wiki or the articles I dig up for you, can be trusted enough to draw finite conclusions from, because NON have collected samples that are truly large enough to be externally valid!!! All any study of this nature can do is infer, or at the most suggest a theory. This was merely information i found that supports my view. never said it was the be all and end all dipstick. never said india was genetically homogenious either.
hybridstrength09 2 years ago
Europeans are genetically linked to other europeans, every race of man is genetically linked. 98% of our genes are identical to the genes of Chimps. I use facts unlike you. History and circumstance make any unification retarded. What's done is done get over it. And luckily the majority of Indians are smart enough not to want unification with BD so your stupid rant on unification is pointless and has nothing to do with anglo indians.
BengaliAshoka 2 years ago
Exactly. We're all linked. It only took you about 50 posts to fall into my trap. Love mankind, stop spreading hate (especially amongst people that are genetically and culturally similar to you) and shut your pie hole. lol.
hybridstrength09 2 years ago
"Exactly. We're all linked. It only took you about 50 posts to fall into my trap."- You are an R-tard, what trap? The fact that humanity is the same species and that chimps are 98% genetically identical to us. So you want one world govt and equal rights for chimps? Your sad little fantasy is not going to happen.
BengaliAshoka 2 years ago
Nothing wrong with chimps. Some of 'em, no, all of 'em probably have more brains than you. Only a pea-brained fanatic nutcase like yourself would be stupid enough to shun his or her own neighbours and make enemies with potential allies. The ethnicities of bengalis and indians are very close. Celebrate your differences, but acknowledge, and respect, your history. Without india, you'd have no flag to shove down people's throats.
hybridstrength09 2 years ago
This is my last reply to you as I can feel my intelligence drop from conversing with u. You are stating that my country be dissolved, I am not the one shoving my flag anywhere you dumb cunt taht is you. I have not stated war or hate for India but two nations living side by side you dumb cunt. And we were already pushing the Pakis back but it was bloody, Indians came in at the last moment. And I am a hypermodernist, I care not for past glories but glories of the future.
BengaliAshoka 2 years ago
@BengaliAshoka Hyper modernist hahahaha...aw Apu you really know your English.
HerrMaladroitMann 1 year ago
this is just a power trip for you. it's your power trip of trying to segregate indian from bengladesh and indians from indians that pulls us apart and enables us to be conquered. these countries should pull together to avoid being conquered, not engage in verbal wars against eachother based on what specific indian race they are and start wars with one another because of that. india helped your country gain independence. ingrate.
hybridstrength09 2 years ago
India helped out of necessity but we were winning the war anyway, it would have simply been bloodier which wouldn't have been a huge deal as we'd already paid a heavy price for nine months of war.
Size doesn't matter, technology and efficiency do. Look at Israel holding 339,510,535 arabs at bay.
BengaliAshoka 2 years ago
There is no us, there hasn't been an us for a long time. India was united and obliterated by the armies of the west. The mughals conquered a united India. Size mean nothing, it is Science and effective leadership which decide the fate of nations R-tard. Britain is a tiny island yet by becoming the Scientific centre of the world had the largest empire, today the scientific centre is the USA: Microsoft, Apple, Dell- go figure they ruin the world
BengaliAshoka 2 years ago
"india helped your country gain independence."
The French and Spanish helped the Americans against the British.
The Americans helped the British against the nazi's.
The Nazi's helped Franco in the Spanish civil war which he won.
None of these nations became one. Your point is null and void. I'm getting tired of intellectually owning you.
BengaliAshoka 2 years ago
lol - you own me intellectually? lol. anyone can spend the day looking up facts on wikipedia. At least i cite my sources. you plagerize. wow, thank god for wikipedia or else what would little BD boy have to shoot back with?? I'm impressed, you went to such great lengths to research your country, and Europe. A for effort.
hybridstrength09 2 years ago
Hmm, bengalis and indians - look similar,... a little shorter and darker than us on average, but generally look similar. hmm, why is this?? Logic and common sense would suggest that they look alike because they have descended, for the most part, from the SAME PEOPLE. Nice try tho kid.
hybridstrength09 2 years ago
You are such a tool, they are not the same people. There are hundreds of different races within the sub continent. Southern Europeans are different from Northern nordic Europeans. This is the truth. Logic and common sense go into the genetic intricacies not childish skin deep crap.
BengaliAshoka 2 years ago
I agree, no one likes a pompous indian, but c'mon, if you think bengalis are so culturally and genetically different from indians, you shouldn't take offence to anglo-indians being stuck up, or italians running the country (since it's according to you it's not your country).
hybridstrength09 2 years ago
BengaliAshoka reply cont'd:
And FYI - you're pissing on your own people on this page. You too are an indian (i don't care how much of a fanatic bengali you are) bengladesh was india. Oh and I saw you're page lol. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. lol.
hybridstrength09 2 years ago
I'm not an Indian, Bengal (west Bengal+ bangladesh+ Assam and a few otehrs) was its own independent kingdom for most of the last 2,000yrs. The Pala dynasty the firs tBengali king Shashanka, Bangladesh being the bread basket of the kingdom was a peaceful backwaters of the kingdom and so many invasions ignored as it was too remote and not politically important.The last time Bangladesh was properly part of any real Bharat was at the beginning when it was part of the original states of Maghada which
BengaliAshoka 2 years ago
... was the state that gave rise to the Mauryan empire, which was the first empire to unite the sub continent and conquer into Persia. It was my ancestors and the peoples of Eastern India who created the first Bharat so don't tell me what my history is alright. But taht empire died over 2,000yrs ago.
BengaliAshoka 2 years ago
your ancestors would be really proud of your youtube profile. lol. lmao, actually.
hybridstrength09 2 years ago
My ancestors are dead so I don't give a fuck about their opinion. I live in the present.
BengaliAshoka 2 years ago
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walter0bz 2 years ago
@BengaliAshoka Ironically, the British said the same thing when the Anglo's started arriving in England. Thanks for proving that ignorant people seldom change.
Darryld1 1 year ago
@BengaliAshoka How could you say something like that ? When all of the Sub Continent is one big mixture of people,from Greeks,Arabs,Turks,Persian (Iranian),Mongol,Tibetan,Burmese and Dravidan.They are half breeds ? What the hell does that suppose to mean ?! Your Hindu lust for purity is a sham.Its non-existent.Its why you were so divided and the British and every other invader Capitalized on it.And subjugated native Indians for Centuries.
Learn your own God damn History.
HerrMaladroitMann 1 year ago
@BengaliAshoka
you're a moron ! ! !
apolinary29 1 year ago
Nigel this is just an idea: How about taking a wing in Kolkata's Victoria Memorial for a permanent display of your archive? After all, Kolkata was founded by a Brit, Job Charnoc, who married an Indian widow (whom he rescued from becoming sutee) and thereby sired one of the first lines of illustrious anglo-indians.
Supe2U 2 years ago
Great project Nigel. Glad that someone has finally decided to record and archive Anglo-Indian culture and preserve it. It would be great if people could contribute and share stories, videos, anecdotes etc...to Nigel's project. The Anglo-Indian community's contribution to education, sports and music in India would be well worth recording.
Babsjoseph 2 years ago
I consider myself an anglo indian, my Grandmother was anglo indian from india, both her parents were anglo indians, i am so proud to be anglo indian, we are unique with our food and language, i am as white as can be, but i cook and talk anglo indian!, i am proud to be anglo indian, my cultre is so special, we even have our own flag! :) i would love to help in any way possible, i have loads of anglo indian relative still living in india! as well as uk, scotland, canada and australia
cosmic4peace 3 years ago
Hi, and thanks for your note. One vital job is to record your families aural history, copy photographs and documents for safe keeping. If you are able to, make your own video and send it to us at the Heritage Centre for our collection. All the best, Nigel
angloindian1 3 years ago
nigel, i will putyou into contactto a lady who is doing the same thing that you are doing here in uk, it would be wise for you both to team up! yes i have so much to give, a few of my auntys have died but still many relatives living i will contact you soon about this thanks
cosmic4peace 3 years ago
You're not Indian, stay in Britain where you belong and never come back
BengaliAshoka 2 years ago
BengaliAshoka!, wow u are so racist, my anglo indian family in india contrubte to india, i have teachers, doctors, engeners in my family they all hold indian pasports, if u look into the history of this, you will find porgugise settlements aswell, we most probley make a better roti, than u my friend!, i hope that u will loose your rasism with these people who hold wonderful jobs in india!
cosmic4peace 2 years ago
my uncle from pakistan married an anglo indian lady from bangladesh
rapperofpakistan 3 years ago
I am happy to be anglo indian and to find out more about the "hidden" community. There are some facts at wikipedia under search for anglo indians. i came to UK when I was 4 years old and had an identity crisis at school because we are such a minority.
andicatz 3 years ago
fux this i'd rather be j o'n fagz
Fucknativeamericans 3 years ago
The problem is the younger generation of anglo indians have no pride. The don't want to associate themselves with the word indian at all. They are a people who have indured for centuries, they now will not endure then next few decades. Sad but true - from a 30 year old anglo indian Melb Australia
rodsinday 3 years ago
god bless the anglo indians, they are really great ppl.
bharathreddy74 3 years ago
We Anglos were created, and hence we have contributed in cash and kind and brains and all.Yet till today we are only a third class citizen in the eyes of the leaders who have given us only two MP seats to begin with.Its time more MP seats are given to the remaining Anglos, who are off a mixed family background today.
The mother being an Anglo and the father a non-anglo.So many of these mixed children are being ignored and made to fend for themselves.
All the best to all of you,
barbarathyabali 3 years ago
Even though im not anglo-indian
I LUV THEM
I have many aunties and uncles in KOLKATA,India & in Australia
VIRAJ818 3 years ago
i'm anglo-indian my family came from calcutta as well :)
iknowyounot 4 years ago
Thank you for this! My family moved from India(Calcutta) in 1960 to London. We were 'anglo's' part French/Spanish.England was really strange back then..not what we expected. Nevertheless
most of my family have since passed away and i moved to Canada in 2000. Life has been a very strange ride so far but i think we left India just before things got real bad for A.I's. I sometimes think i'm the only ango-indian left! (i've just turned 50)
mojoelem 4 years ago
Hi my family also moved from India (Chennai) in 1959/60 to London. I've just turned 60 and yes, I too sometimes think I'm the only anglo-indian left. God Bless
kggerbills 3 years ago