If you want CLEAN AIR, GO SOLAR! No matter where a power plant goes, it is ALWAYS in someone's backyard! We want clean air, we have 30,000 homes, blah blah blah, shut up and deal with the consequences of generations of people who only care about their pocket books and not about the environment! I go into the homes of hundreds of wealthy people who care nothing of environment but only want to go solar because they can make money at it, and there are still man who say "the payback is not enough"
I did not dig into this issue like some of you here, but it doesn't make sense to me for someone to waste all this money proposing a power plant right near all those beautiful homes when there is acre upon acre of property that spans kilometres way north of Dundas. Wouldn't bother anyone north of the 401... We all need electricity, so the horse and buggy types below need to get with the times and have constructive dialog that will actually help our town. Good the plant location was denied.
If this is a gas fired power plant as I suspect, then I really need to say that natural gas is one of the cleanest burning fuels. Burning natural gas puts tiny amounts of CO2 into the air. Also it puts no CO the air if the plant is fired properly. Natural gas produces far lower amounts of sulfur dioxide and nitrous oxides than any other hydrocarbon fuel.
@Allante715 Concerned citizens are you and me you would be just as concerned would you want a huge burning power plant literally less than a kilometre away from a school that has 5-13 year old children and extremely close to other schools and homes that did nothing to deserve this and many have been using much less electricity so you'll blame everyone for the richer population and also being near toronto and a very large place that requires using electricity to help keep the economy of canada
now they put one in the richest soil possibly in canada with schools and families all around it a town of 80,000 2 km away and you cancel an oakville one are you kidding your are a peice of shit you dumb liberals
I live in Oakville - as well. I just don't understand why people in oakville consume so much energy. I currently live in a house that has made efficient use of sustainable design - probably the only one around, at least from what I've seen so far from living in the Oaks for the past 15 years. Instead of buying and making houses that are ridiculously large and consume huge amounts of energy why not take under consideration sustainable design. The subdivisions should also stop expanding. peace.
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I live in Oakville. The problem I have with this whole thing is that the rich are able to keep it out of thier area and it will probably be moved to somewhere where the people cant afford to keep it away.
Remember what happened with Sithe in the 1990s? "Concerned citizens" sent the plant up to Brampton. Do you "concerned citizens" sleep better at night knowing you found someone in Malton to breathe in the pollution generated whenever you turn the lights on?
HERES A NOVEL IDEA: STOP DEVELOPMENT IN THE SUBURBS! You know, all that waste being built north of Highway 5 and all over the 905. Then you won't need the damn power station. Oh wait! my bad, too much money to be made. Can't have your cake and eat it too Halton/Peel Region.
@RichardDJamesLP sir you should know with the growing rate of oakville they need to make more homes for the more population people need to live somewhere and alot of those people have choosen oakville and moved away from their old towns which adds to our energy consumption what we consume your homes would consume if we didnt make enough houses the consumption of oakville toronto and everywhere isnt ours or canadas or anywhere its everywheres
Look. Simply place the plant in St. Jamestown - 200 Wellesley St. E., say. There will be no NIMBY opposition, if for no other reason than the fact that the mothers in that area are too busy trying to feed their children to mount LICP-supported/Oakvillian "Won't someone please think of the children?" campaigns. No drive-thru protests, no celebrity golf tournaments. What's more - for a modest stipend - said wretched mothers could perhaps fuel the power plant with said children. Everybody wins.
i live in oakville, and i agree that we need it, but they could find somewhere farther away from homes and schools. and mozak9, i agree, the houses are rediculous, but still, it's peoples health. i say, build the plant but keep it farther away from peoples homes and schools.
Oh my. How ironic that people who live in huge mansions and drive big SUVs are complaining about the power plant.
Hmm, maybe if you didn't live in a 10,000 square foot house, they wouldn't need to build a huge power plant to accommodate your unnecessary consumption.
Not everyone who lives in Oakville owns a mansion. Not everyone is rich.
I fucking hate that stereo type. You know what? Why don't you live in Oakville for a year and actually meat the people here before you start talking about how "rich" we are. You stupid, stupid person.
it is much more dangerous in the middle of a community than anywhere else
lets say it blows up just like the one in the US
if it does, the explosion will be roughly 60% worse because the other power plant was less than half this ones size. The nearest school is 320m away...ARE YOU INSANE?! PEOPLE! THAT COULD KILL TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IF THAT THING BLOWS! THE RADIATION GIVEN UP DOESNT HELP YOUR SIDE EITHER!
@baseballboy1545 Radiation. You can't be serious. Dangerous doses of harmful radiation are associated with failures at Nuclear power stations. Living near a thermal power plant for a year, you absorb around 0.0003Sv of Radiation. Compare that with a dental x-ray is 0.005Sv. An untreatable fatal dose of radiation is 8Sv or 26,667 years living next to a gas-fired plant. I don't think radiation is the issue here as much as pollution.
oh my god ive live right next to the ford plant and never even knew they were building it there. I think that the whole town of oakville should write an online pettition saying to stop the power plant!! And to advertise the website you should send letters in the mail. please respond to my idea!
Maybe a good solution would be for the plant to be of nuclear generation. Thus providing the required power for the area and others and with the benefit of clean air. Sounds like everyone will be happy with that.
Now, with that settled...lets all go crank up our natural gas furnaces and watch the seagulls fall from the sky. Boo-Hoo..
Oakville residents on average consume more energy then anyone else in the GTA. Based on that simple fact, the power plant should be here. Its pretty simple, if you don't want a powerplant in your community, consume less energy.
But NO, Oakville residents would rather complain, keep up their over consumption, and place the burden of a power plan an another equally populated community.
It is only fair that this plant is built in Oakville, not a community that is less financially privileged.
You may recall that the power plant explosion in Connecticut was a 620-megawatt plant - THIS plant would be in the 900 range. The blast was heard from 20 miles away - my home and school are about 400 meters away.
This has nothing to do with financial status - it is a simple matter of safety.
So yes, I would rather "complain". Nobody is disputing the fact that power plants are necessary, but just not in the middle of a residential area.
Thanks though :) Your comment was really productive.
My comments are in face productive. I raised valid points that no one on here has (and perhaps hasn't even considered). I would call that productive.
For this video to raise the point of air quality is laughable. Have you personally ever tried to walk anywhere in this town? Or biked to work or school? I know its unrelated to power consumption, but having a workforce that is over 60% commuter, certainly has an impact on air quality.
No, I have never walked in my own town. Dipshit. I don't believe in driving when I don't need to, don't even have a G1, bike, walk, and take public transit. Don't pretend that driving has anything to do with air quality - people everywhere drive, and people everywhere commute. The air quality is the way it is because of numerous OTHER plants which affect our area, which is not the case in many other communities.
None of my comments have been personal attacks. Please refrain from childish name calling.
You simply cannot deny the impact that cars have on our air quality. We live in a community where most people drive... where most families have more then 2 cars. This has a huge impact. Oakville's own statistics point out that over 60% of employed residents commute out of the town, this is a HUGE number. The deny the impact this has on our air quality is simply ignorant.
Perhaps some advice would be to check our facts before makimg such statements . According to the OEB data on consumption of electricity Toronto is 10.5 percent higher than Oakville further Oakville consumes 2% of Torontos Consumption. Check pages 75-80 in OEB data summary. The issue is plants shouldent be built so close to residents whether they be in Oakville, Toronto, Sarnia etc proper safe setbacks and emission fallout can all be properly planned. .
I have done my research, and of course Toronto consumes more Power, its a huge CITY, which is densely populated. The figures that I was referring to were broken up by individual. I should have clarified.
That being said, my issue is that the argument of this video and group is simply "not in my area". You offer no alternative areas, and alternatives already proposed are not much better.
@citizensforcleanair WRONG! Actually, OMB data indicates that average residential electricity consumption in Oakville in 2008 was 10 per cent higher than Mississauga and nearly 23% higher than Toronto.
Oh I checked my facts. Don't be thick with me here. Toronto is a HUGE city, its power consumption would obviously be higher than Oakville's.
I was clearly referring to the fact that Oakville residents use more power, per person, than the surrounding areas.
Not to mention the fact that its a community based on commuters (Municipal published literature even brags about 60% of its working residents commuting), and this video has the gull to mention air quality.
As a resident of Oakville, I can attest that this is a commuter community. Has anyone actually stopped to consider the fact that Oakville roads are completely congested with traffic 24/7?? It is completly insane. As a pedestrian (I am a student) it is so bad that I feel unsafe actually crossing the street at crosswalks. Consider the fact that in this video you are complaining about air quality in Oakville, while the community....
we have been fighting this and we did protest against the paint plant, it is because of the citizens of Oakville that the paint plant has a very strict guidline as to the emissions it is allowed to emit each year, it is also one of the major polluters that are contributing to the already stressed airshed
How come nobody complained about the present sites paint plant? Or you could petition to close St. Lawrnce Cement. If you live in Charnwood, as i do...you wouldnt be so cranky. After all, i think most of the protesters are really concerned with their real estate values. its kinda cliche to show kiddies playing etc in the vid...but hey...we all know it wouldnt play as good if you showed, say a middle aged couple hoping to flip their 800k home into 1.3M .Ive thought of that..maybe u have too?
hahaha that is completely ignorant. Just because it is Oakville doesn't mean that the main concern is money :) Say there was an explosion like the plant in the US (which was notably smaller than the plant they are planning for Oakville) my little sister's school would be blown to pieces. Personally I find that a little more disturbing than how much my home may sell for.
Its not ignorant, when you consider the fact that some other proposed areas are just as populated.
This video, and group do not offer a viable solution, they just don't want the problem in their backyard. Which is completely understandable, but it is in fact ignorant to ignore the fact that it has to be in somebody's backyard.
I myself am an Oakville resident, and will be affected by this, but I see the footprint of our community, and that we certainly deserve this plant more then others.
It's not the resident's job to come up with the solution, it is the company and Dalton McGuinty's. It doesn't HAVE to be in somebody's backyard, that's the point. There are areas that it can be that it will not affect residents.
For you to be an Oakville resident and somehow think that we deserve this is absurd, and I wonder how close you are to the issue. If you really believe that we deserve it, I propose that it is DIRECTLY in your backyard, and we'll see how passive you are then.
While its not the residents job to come up with a solution, it would make for a MUCH more useful argument. Its easy to simply say "not here", but a more constructive argument would be to propose a safer, equally fitting site for this plant. If this protest were to stop the plant from being built here, it would move to one of the other proposed sites, which have similar problems. Its a matter or pushing the problem upon someone else, rather then solving anything.
Also as a resident I see the massive amount of consumption and waste in our community, I look at this plant as karma...what we get for being so frivolous. Although unrelated, a great example is what we, as a community throw away. If you have a look on spring garbage pick up, many houses are throwing away perfectly good furniture, which should rightfully be donated to needy families.
"Ooh my little sister" sounds like someone is a selfish cunt! I lived in a city full of chemical plants, do you think we had a choice? NO! So fuck your little sister! This is benefiting people too! Quit being so negative!! Also stop wasting so much energy in Oakville and maybe the need for a power plant wont be necessary
haha that was very eloquently put - well done. the plant would benefit people even more in an area that is NOT near residents. i just think it's important to look at the safety concerns, and you may also want to refer to the comment posted by c4ca below.
i am sorry that your community did not stand up to the chemical plants, but i am proud of my community's choice to fight.
anyways, if being concerned with air quality safety makes me a selfish cunt, i am sorry you feel that way.
@erick103 its so easy to be ignorant haha but it really doesn't help your credibility so in the end no one cares what you have to think because you are obviously immature. I dont care for this powerplant but people like you are really useless to any cause. So just shut up.
This Video tells an important story, and the rally today with over 3000 people at Queens Park was testament to how important this issue is for not only those in Oakville, but for all of us in Ontario. We should have the right to protect our health and those we love.
Oakville - McGuinty - Will a blast will LEVEL the nearest School only 0.2 miles away??
The Kleen Energy plant under construction in Middletown was leveled by an explosion on Feb. 7. 2010 ... The impact of the explosion was felt more than a mile away ... currently estimated about 200 or more people were injured at the site and at least five people killed. Spectators who watched emergency crews working at the scene from a safe distance, across the Connecticut River...!!
why don't you get your facts straight before you make an uneducated comment like this. are you telling me you supported Stelco? And are you actually saying its ok to put this power plant within 320 meters of schools, you can't believe that is ok? I can't imagine anyone with a brain could make a comment like this. Look at the video again, it may change your mind
I don't believe for one second that Ford has not entered into some kind of an agreement with the power plant. Either to get a discount on the power costs, or for profit sharing. Think about how much power a huge plant like Ford uses. A 10% discount would translate to millions over 5, 10 or 20 years.
Save lives, ourenvironment is super important but making sure reach each corner of Ontario is a fact we have to consider! We should become educated on the subject for pro's and possible risks along problem. I invite everyone to subscribe to my planet and help to decide a wise option.
Actually power consumption has nothing to do with the location of the plant - despite what the Government wants us to believe. This 900 megawatt plant will produce at least 5X more power than the area needs.
Also the vast majority of the power in Ontario already travels great distances to people's homes at a lower total cost. It is correct that energy conservation is a better path - hence why demand has been falling steadily in the area for the past three years. This plant is not needed.
The reason why it is being placed there is because the power is being used there... how about some energy conservation, people! We can make it so that the next 3 power plants aren't needed with efficiency and lower use! Stop the waste!
like Dr Boyd said there is already alot of pollution in the air it would be bad to add more because people could become sick and the families that live in that area would have to be careful with how much time they spend outside because of the extra pollution.
LOL wut?
woo1693 1 month ago
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magdakorpi 3 months ago
Soon enough all you white people will be living in reservations and us Muslims will own Oakville. We're coming and you can't stop it....
24769pat 8 months ago
If you want CLEAN AIR, GO SOLAR! No matter where a power plant goes, it is ALWAYS in someone's backyard! We want clean air, we have 30,000 homes, blah blah blah, shut up and deal with the consequences of generations of people who only care about their pocket books and not about the environment! I go into the homes of hundreds of wealthy people who care nothing of environment but only want to go solar because they can make money at it, and there are still man who say "the payback is not enough"
stuartmwatt 8 months ago
@stuartmwatt
Would you like to pay the massive bill for all those solar panels. Talk is cheap.
Allante715 2 months ago
I did not dig into this issue like some of you here, but it doesn't make sense to me for someone to waste all this money proposing a power plant right near all those beautiful homes when there is acre upon acre of property that spans kilometres way north of Dundas. Wouldn't bother anyone north of the 401... We all need electricity, so the horse and buggy types below need to get with the times and have constructive dialog that will actually help our town. Good the plant location was denied.
OakvilleBusiness 8 months ago
If this is a gas fired power plant as I suspect, then I really need to say that natural gas is one of the cleanest burning fuels. Burning natural gas puts tiny amounts of CO2 into the air. Also it puts no CO the air if the plant is fired properly. Natural gas produces far lower amounts of sulfur dioxide and nitrous oxides than any other hydrocarbon fuel.
Jemalacane 1 year ago
If concerned citizens would stop using electricity, then there would be NO need to make a need power station.
Allante715 1 year ago
@Allante715 Concerned citizens are you and me you would be just as concerned would you want a huge burning power plant literally less than a kilometre away from a school that has 5-13 year old children and extremely close to other schools and homes that did nothing to deserve this and many have been using much less electricity so you'll blame everyone for the richer population and also being near toronto and a very large place that requires using electricity to help keep the economy of canada
SuperSeiso 3 months ago
@SuperSeiso
Its a gas fired power plant. It is not like we are talking about a Coal fired power plant. Oh wow, a little bit of CO2 in the atmosphere, scary!
Allante715 2 months ago
now they put one in the richest soil possibly in canada with schools and families all around it a town of 80,000 2 km away and you cancel an oakville one are you kidding your are a peice of shit you dumb liberals
hawker800FO 1 year ago
I live in Oakville - as well. I just don't understand why people in oakville consume so much energy. I currently live in a house that has made efficient use of sustainable design - probably the only one around, at least from what I've seen so far from living in the Oaks for the past 15 years. Instead of buying and making houses that are ridiculously large and consume huge amounts of energy why not take under consideration sustainable design. The subdivisions should also stop expanding. peace.
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MercyCal 1 year ago
I live in Oakville. The problem I have with this whole thing is that the rich are able to keep it out of thier area and it will probably be moved to somewhere where the people cant afford to keep it away.
blabla727 1 year ago
Remember what happened with Sithe in the 1990s? "Concerned citizens" sent the plant up to Brampton. Do you "concerned citizens" sleep better at night knowing you found someone in Malton to breathe in the pollution generated whenever you turn the lights on?
RichardDJamesLP 1 year ago
HERES A NOVEL IDEA: STOP DEVELOPMENT IN THE SUBURBS! You know, all that waste being built north of Highway 5 and all over the 905. Then you won't need the damn power station. Oh wait! my bad, too much money to be made. Can't have your cake and eat it too Halton/Peel Region.
RichardDJamesLP 1 year ago
@RichardDJamesLP sir you should know with the growing rate of oakville they need to make more homes for the more population people need to live somewhere and alot of those people have choosen oakville and moved away from their old towns which adds to our energy consumption what we consume your homes would consume if we didnt make enough houses the consumption of oakville toronto and everywhere isnt ours or canadas or anywhere its everywheres
SuperSeiso 3 months ago
Look. Simply place the plant in St. Jamestown - 200 Wellesley St. E., say. There will be no NIMBY opposition, if for no other reason than the fact that the mothers in that area are too busy trying to feed their children to mount LICP-supported/Oakvillian "Won't someone please think of the children?" campaigns. No drive-thru protests, no celebrity golf tournaments. What's more - for a modest stipend - said wretched mothers could perhaps fuel the power plant with said children. Everybody wins.
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perplexfraction 1 year ago
i live in oakville, and i agree that we need it, but they could find somewhere farther away from homes and schools. and mozak9, i agree, the houses are rediculous, but still, it's peoples health. i say, build the plant but keep it farther away from peoples homes and schools.
Underclass18 1 year ago
Oh my. How ironic that people who live in huge mansions and drive big SUVs are complaining about the power plant.
Hmm, maybe if you didn't live in a 10,000 square foot house, they wouldn't need to build a huge power plant to accommodate your unnecessary consumption.
Ridiculous...
muzak9 1 year ago
@muzak9 you are actually an idiot.
Not everyone who lives in Oakville owns a mansion. Not everyone is rich.
I fucking hate that stereo type. You know what? Why don't you live in Oakville for a year and actually meat the people here before you start talking about how "rich" we are. You stupid, stupid person.
miocevich5 1 year ago
@miocevich5 to be fair, you just said "meat the people"
dave3030 1 year ago 2
If their going to build a powerplant go to Lake Ontario, which Oakville borders, and make a steam plant! Not a friggen gas plant!
Superchickenman159 1 year ago
alright bud, think about this way
it CANT be there
it is much more dangerous in the middle of a community than anywhere else
lets say it blows up just like the one in the US
if it does, the explosion will be roughly 60% worse because the other power plant was less than half this ones size. The nearest school is 320m away...ARE YOU INSANE?! PEOPLE! THAT COULD KILL TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IF THAT THING BLOWS! THE RADIATION GIVEN UP DOESNT HELP YOUR SIDE EITHER!
baseballboy1545 1 year ago
@baseballboy1545 Radiation. You can't be serious. Dangerous doses of harmful radiation are associated with failures at Nuclear power stations. Living near a thermal power plant for a year, you absorb around 0.0003Sv of Radiation. Compare that with a dental x-ray is 0.005Sv. An untreatable fatal dose of radiation is 8Sv or 26,667 years living next to a gas-fired plant. I don't think radiation is the issue here as much as pollution.
BenzeneTolueneXylene 3 months ago
oh my god ive live right next to the ford plant and never even knew they were building it there. I think that the whole town of oakville should write an online pettition saying to stop the power plant!! And to advertise the website you should send letters in the mail. please respond to my idea!
WHOSYOJEFE 1 year ago
you have no idea how close this power plant is to my school, not even 5 minutes.. no joke....
ladygagar0xx 1 year ago
Maybe a good solution would be for the plant to be of nuclear generation. Thus providing the required power for the area and others and with the benefit of clean air. Sounds like everyone will be happy with that.
Now, with that settled...lets all go crank up our natural gas furnaces and watch the seagulls fall from the sky. Boo-Hoo..
xxkkxxkxk 2 years ago
"It felt like the house was shaking," Peter Moore, who lives about 10 miles away in Durham, told CNN.
That is in relation to the explosion in Connecticut - 1 mile = 1 609.344 meters.
The closest school is 320 meters.
Just a thought.
126918879 2 years ago
Oakville residents on average consume more energy then anyone else in the GTA. Based on that simple fact, the power plant should be here. Its pretty simple, if you don't want a powerplant in your community, consume less energy.
But NO, Oakville residents would rather complain, keep up their over consumption, and place the burden of a power plan an another equally populated community.
It is only fair that this plant is built in Oakville, not a community that is less financially privileged.
micredable 2 years ago
You may recall that the power plant explosion in Connecticut was a 620-megawatt plant - THIS plant would be in the 900 range. The blast was heard from 20 miles away - my home and school are about 400 meters away.
This has nothing to do with financial status - it is a simple matter of safety.
So yes, I would rather "complain". Nobody is disputing the fact that power plants are necessary, but just not in the middle of a residential area.
Thanks though :) Your comment was really productive.
126918879 2 years ago
My comments are in face productive. I raised valid points that no one on here has (and perhaps hasn't even considered). I would call that productive.
For this video to raise the point of air quality is laughable. Have you personally ever tried to walk anywhere in this town? Or biked to work or school? I know its unrelated to power consumption, but having a workforce that is over 60% commuter, certainly has an impact on air quality.
micredable 2 years ago
No, I have never walked in my own town. Dipshit. I don't believe in driving when I don't need to, don't even have a G1, bike, walk, and take public transit. Don't pretend that driving has anything to do with air quality - people everywhere drive, and people everywhere commute. The air quality is the way it is because of numerous OTHER plants which affect our area, which is not the case in many other communities.
126918879 2 years ago
None of my comments have been personal attacks. Please refrain from childish name calling.
You simply cannot deny the impact that cars have on our air quality. We live in a community where most people drive... where most families have more then 2 cars. This has a huge impact. Oakville's own statistics point out that over 60% of employed residents commute out of the town, this is a HUGE number. The deny the impact this has on our air quality is simply ignorant.
micredable 2 years ago
Perhaps some advice would be to check our facts before makimg such statements . According to the OEB data on consumption of electricity Toronto is 10.5 percent higher than Oakville further Oakville consumes 2% of Torontos Consumption. Check pages 75-80 in OEB data summary. The issue is plants shouldent be built so close to residents whether they be in Oakville, Toronto, Sarnia etc proper safe setbacks and emission fallout can all be properly planned. .
citizensforcleanair 2 years ago
I have done my research, and of course Toronto consumes more Power, its a huge CITY, which is densely populated. The figures that I was referring to were broken up by individual. I should have clarified.
That being said, my issue is that the argument of this video and group is simply "not in my area". You offer no alternative areas, and alternatives already proposed are not much better.
micredable 2 years ago
@citizensforcleanair WRONG! Actually, OMB data indicates that average residential electricity consumption in Oakville in 2008 was 10 per cent higher than Mississauga and nearly 23% higher than Toronto.
muzak9 1 year ago
@citizensforcleanair
Oh I checked my facts. Don't be thick with me here. Toronto is a HUGE city, its power consumption would obviously be higher than Oakville's.
I was clearly referring to the fact that Oakville residents use more power, per person, than the surrounding areas.
Not to mention the fact that its a community based on commuters (Municipal published literature even brags about 60% of its working residents commuting), and this video has the gull to mention air quality.
micredable 1 year ago
This is such a load of shit.
As a resident of Oakville, I can attest that this is a commuter community. Has anyone actually stopped to consider the fact that Oakville roads are completely congested with traffic 24/7?? It is completly insane. As a pedestrian (I am a student) it is so bad that I feel unsafe actually crossing the street at crosswalks. Consider the fact that in this video you are complaining about air quality in Oakville, while the community....
micredable 2 years ago
we have been fighting this and we did protest against the paint plant, it is because of the citizens of Oakville that the paint plant has a very strict guidline as to the emissions it is allowed to emit each year, it is also one of the major polluters that are contributing to the already stressed airshed
pokersgirl28 2 years ago
if it's such a big deal how did they even legally pass this through and why is the city allowing it?
hypur 2 years ago
How come nobody complained about the present sites paint plant? Or you could petition to close St. Lawrnce Cement. If you live in Charnwood, as i do...you wouldnt be so cranky. After all, i think most of the protesters are really concerned with their real estate values. its kinda cliche to show kiddies playing etc in the vid...but hey...we all know it wouldnt play as good if you showed, say a middle aged couple hoping to flip their 800k home into 1.3M .Ive thought of that..maybe u have too?
xxkkxxkxk 2 years ago
hahaha that is completely ignorant. Just because it is Oakville doesn't mean that the main concern is money :) Say there was an explosion like the plant in the US (which was notably smaller than the plant they are planning for Oakville) my little sister's school would be blown to pieces. Personally I find that a little more disturbing than how much my home may sell for.
126918879 2 years ago
Its not ignorant, when you consider the fact that some other proposed areas are just as populated.
This video, and group do not offer a viable solution, they just don't want the problem in their backyard. Which is completely understandable, but it is in fact ignorant to ignore the fact that it has to be in somebody's backyard.
I myself am an Oakville resident, and will be affected by this, but I see the footprint of our community, and that we certainly deserve this plant more then others.
micredable 2 years ago
It's not the resident's job to come up with the solution, it is the company and Dalton McGuinty's. It doesn't HAVE to be in somebody's backyard, that's the point. There are areas that it can be that it will not affect residents.
For you to be an Oakville resident and somehow think that we deserve this is absurd, and I wonder how close you are to the issue. If you really believe that we deserve it, I propose that it is DIRECTLY in your backyard, and we'll see how passive you are then.
126918879 2 years ago
While its not the residents job to come up with a solution, it would make for a MUCH more useful argument. Its easy to simply say "not here", but a more constructive argument would be to propose a safer, equally fitting site for this plant. If this protest were to stop the plant from being built here, it would move to one of the other proposed sites, which have similar problems. Its a matter or pushing the problem upon someone else, rather then solving anything.
micredable 2 years ago
Also as a resident I see the massive amount of consumption and waste in our community, I look at this plant as karma...what we get for being so frivolous. Although unrelated, a great example is what we, as a community throw away. If you have a look on spring garbage pick up, many houses are throwing away perfectly good furniture, which should rightfully be donated to needy families.
micredable 2 years ago
"Ooh my little sister" sounds like someone is a selfish cunt! I lived in a city full of chemical plants, do you think we had a choice? NO! So fuck your little sister! This is benefiting people too! Quit being so negative!! Also stop wasting so much energy in Oakville and maybe the need for a power plant wont be necessary
erick103 2 years ago
haha that was very eloquently put - well done. the plant would benefit people even more in an area that is NOT near residents. i just think it's important to look at the safety concerns, and you may also want to refer to the comment posted by c4ca below.
i am sorry that your community did not stand up to the chemical plants, but i am proud of my community's choice to fight.
anyways, if being concerned with air quality safety makes me a selfish cunt, i am sorry you feel that way.
126918879 2 years ago
Well, I'm glad you accept you're selfish, and a cunt! Have a good day!
erick103 2 years ago
@erick103 its so easy to be ignorant haha but it really doesn't help your credibility so in the end no one cares what you have to think because you are obviously immature. I dont care for this powerplant but people like you are really useless to any cause. So just shut up.
3577 2 years ago
I dunno, I'm certainly being useful in making vaginas sore! Aren't I?
So I wouldn't say I am totally useless, le' no?
erick103 2 years ago
@126918879 thank you i think that was the most truthful thing ive read here
SuperSeiso 3 months ago
This Video tells an important story, and the rally today with over 3000 people at Queens Park was testament to how important this issue is for not only those in Oakville, but for all of us in Ontario. We should have the right to protect our health and those we love.
sharonvandenelzen 2 years ago
how do we stop it?
TheZebraGoose 2 years ago
Wooo Student power plant!!!
maddymikulissxo 2 years ago
I go to the University of Toronto Mississauga, and I will be there on March 2 to help stop this plant from being built.
thenvironmentalist 2 years ago
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thenvironmentalist 2 years ago
I love sulpher dioxide
QuiksiIver 2 years ago
I agree with everything said in this video, except I don't think it should be relocated..
Use the existing land, but build a green 100% emission free power generating station. Solar.. Wind.. Anyone..?
drakeshipway 2 years ago
solar and wind are extremely inefficient at your latitude and location.
QuiksiIver 2 years ago
Oakville - McGuinty - Will a blast will LEVEL the nearest School only 0.2 miles away??
The Kleen Energy plant under construction in Middletown was leveled by an explosion on Feb. 7. 2010 ... The impact of the explosion was felt more than a mile away ... currently estimated about 200 or more people were injured at the site and at least five people killed. Spectators who watched emergency crews working at the scene from a safe distance, across the Connecticut River...!!
1markr1 2 years ago
oh stop it oakvillians..you've lived sheltered long enuf. Take your power plant like a big town....like Hamilton for example
xxkkxxkxk 2 years ago
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themacdaddy9 2 years ago
@xxkkxxkxk SHUT UP no one wants this power plant so u shouldnt speak cause it prob affects u 2
FUNNYTINA22345 2 years ago
why don't you get your facts straight before you make an uneducated comment like this. are you telling me you supported Stelco? And are you actually saying its ok to put this power plant within 320 meters of schools, you can't believe that is ok? I can't imagine anyone with a brain could make a comment like this. Look at the video again, it may change your mind
sharonvandenelzen 2 years ago
I don't believe for one second that Ford has not entered into some kind of an agreement with the power plant. Either to get a discount on the power costs, or for profit sharing. Think about how much power a huge plant like Ford uses. A 10% discount would translate to millions over 5, 10 or 20 years.
polishboy123 2 years ago
Save lives, ourenvironment is super important but making sure reach each corner of Ontario is a fact we have to consider! We should become educated on the subject for pro's and possible risks along problem. I invite everyone to subscribe to my planet and help to decide a wise option.
xxPowerOnxx 2 years ago
Actually power consumption has nothing to do with the location of the plant - despite what the Government wants us to believe. This 900 megawatt plant will produce at least 5X more power than the area needs.
Also the vast majority of the power in Ontario already travels great distances to people's homes at a lower total cost. It is correct that energy conservation is a better path - hence why demand has been falling steadily in the area for the past three years. This plant is not needed.
ATDad1122 2 years ago 2
The reason why it is being placed there is because the power is being used there... how about some energy conservation, people! We can make it so that the next 3 power plants aren't needed with efficiency and lower use! Stop the waste!
decibel333 2 years ago
So true Hannah! We need to stop this, for our own good as well. Our health, animals health, and other peoples health.
(Hannah- See you at school! :p )
Averox191 2 years ago 2
like Dr Boyd said there is already alot of pollution in the air it would be bad to add more because people could become sick and the families that live in that area would have to be careful with how much time they spend outside because of the extra pollution.
-Hannah
super1duper1girl 2 years ago
We have to stop this power plant from being made! It will save lives and our environment! My school is with this all the way! Stop the power plant!
- @ve
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