bewarethelizards 42 Shows How Preaching Intolerance is DONE RIGHT

[Ripley747]

He has the right to speak, yes. However, 3 points. 1st, that freedom is limited at work. You can't threaten a job unless they go on a date with you, for ex. 2nd, he was fired, not arrested. In many states, the employer has the right to fire anyone at any time for any reason (barring racism and such). Ethics aside, the employer has every right to fire him for saying the wrong thing at work. 3rd, we're only listening to Fox News' POV which we all know is never bias. There's likely more to it.

[LuciousVBogeymanProd]

@Ripley747 I know. To understand you need to understand I was responding to bewarethelizards attitude that his "STILL THINKING HOMOSEXUALITY IS WRONG" after he was fired shows "HE HASN'T LEARNED HIS LESSON". That implies she believes he MUST change his opinion, that getting fired for thinking as most Christians think was RIGHT.

[LuciousVBogeymanProd]

@Ripley747 THe real answer is he got fired because he's obviously a douche-bag that everyone hates and I'm just doing this to make interesting conversation illustrating the difficulty of determining what is just and right in a pluralistic environment.

Imagine a Christian dominated workplace and a Lesbian getting fired for talking about how Christians are jerks for not embracing homosexuality, it illustrates the dilemma. Who is right is decided by which view dominates. Real Justice is Blind

[bababybwoo]

It's like he's saying that unless co workers feel the same as he does about homosexuality, he can't work with them. Welcome to the world, man.

[bababybwoo]

He was hostile. For him to keep hearing it, meant that he would be listening into the conversation. "I think it's bad stuff?" So loving. This is war! She mentioned this person. It was because of her orientation that he didn't want to hear about HER. I think if he changed his attitude, I would rehire him.

[bighaus54]

You are kind of making a misrepresentation. When a person talks about their love life most people are thinking that they are talking about sex. This lady was simply saying that she was looking forward to getting married. If he were about to get married and was bragging about how much he loved his wife and someone said that him being straight and loving a woman was bad stuff they would be fired just the same as they should be.

[TheSpankymonkey]

Sorry, Your particular delusional flavour of a god, IS A PRICK. But hey, don't sweat it, i think genocidal, infantacidal meglomaniac are far more fitting, so being called a prick really is the least of his worries eh.

[htoontube]

If I were YOU, Lucious, I would be very embarrassed indeed. The lady was engaged and happy to talk about getting married, just like any straight person would have been. The guy was clearly anti-gay and discriminatory towards her (where does he get off calling her fiance "so-called fiance", by the way ...) If he did not like what she was saying all he had to do was to remove himself from the conversation, not preach to her.

[chaoszieg]

Well I disagree with you.

I know this is the reporter, not the guy, but the reporter lies twice in his opening statement.

Peter wasn't fired for his beliefs, and by his own admission he wasnt being "constantly bombarded" by her gay life style, it was a couple times, maybe 4, and it was about her fiance' not her running around fucking chicks.

[enhanceUK]

Yeah sorry to say I too, disagree with you here. Of course he has the right to his opinion, but he has no right to criticize her home life, and make the work environment intolerable for her. I also doubt he is telling the full story, as he is clearly very bigoted. Why couldn't he do the "Christian" thing and turn the other cheek?

[TheNakedAtheist]

lol, did you even listen to the video? You start your commentary with "guy got fired for telling his co-worker that discussing her love life made him uncomfortable" IF that were the case you would have had a point, BUT that isn't what happened. The woman was discussing her upcoming nuptials with co-workers, and because the wedding happened to be to another female the bigot told her that the "gay lifestyle" was BAD/perverted. Try watching the video again, or look the story up, and read it.

[NeoNikkiChan]

Personally I would have just kept my mouth shut with the facts that I have on hand of this case thus far.

[Widgetas]

How about:

A number of people have the story of Noah in their world view.

This chap goes up to a black co-worker:

"Your skin colour makes me uncomfortable. The bible says that you are descended from Ham, who was cursed for dishonouring his father.

You are a cursed person."

It's highly likely that this analogy will have you shaking your head...

Feel free to explain why the man wouldn't be allowed the freedom to

express his this opinion of his world view, and why homosexuality is different.

[Widgetas]

It's very unlikely that this was the first offence of that chap.

Point to note - She was *not* talking about her sex-life (essentially) or if she was then he's made no specific allegation about that.

His freedom has not been impinged because he was being intolerant of another's lifestyle which will be against company policy.

I enjoy the language: "without any provocation from me, she spoke about her so-called fiancée".

I really doubt this is the whole story. At all.

[bewarethelizards42]

I'm afraid that I still think I'm in the right on this one.. :D

There's more we havent heard, which was not mentioned in this clip - the guy called her 'deviant' and so on. And she wasnt (apparently) saying anything explicitly sexual.. he had no grounds to be upset with her mentioning her fiancee. Other than latent homophobia.

And just for the record, I never criticised him for being a Christian. Just for being a dick. Which he was.. :D

[Janicevindy]

Lucious.... it is an expression of freedom of speech on both sides....the fact that he got fired...I wonder if the employer just took advantage of the situation to get rid of an employee that he didn't want.....think about that....

[trista86]

I think the information we're *not* given in this instance is probably important -- like whether he was in a probationary employment period, whether he'd previously had any similar incidents, what exactly she said that offended him, and what *exactly* he said to her, too.

It's purely anecdotal, but I've known a few Christians of various stripes who got into hot water at work for their "Christian witness" -- and it always seemed to turn out they'd been the ones in the wrong

[TimKilgore]

You realize in your explanation you said exactly why he was fired. You said whoever is making it a drama is the one that should be fired. In that case, she is simply mentioning she's engaged. That's not sexually explicit in any way, talking about significant others is not something that is outlawed in the workplace. So him telling her that he's offended and preaching his side to her is causing the drama, therefore he should've been fired. Religion is something to be kept out ofthe workplace

[JBSauce]

She's got my sub.

I wonder if he's not telling us the whole story. Something tells me this guy was canned for a more important reason (or reasons) than simply feeling uncomfortable with his coworker's speech. However, we could be dealing with idiot management--a possibility with a high probability of occurring.