The video is correct about debunking the cell phone conspiracy. But the video is not quite correct about some of its other claims. Health care is not about "no choice" its about access and the reckless behavior of insurance companies who often leave legitimate patients with little or no choice.
I am not saying that the conspiracy theories are not hurtful to some families of the victims of 9/11, but it is not hurtful to all of them. There are many that are pushing for these theories to be tested, and for their questions to be answered. Many relatives of the victims feel that things just don't add up. I'm not saying they found those black boxes, I'm not saying there were explosives in the towers. I'm simply asking questions.
You are an idiot. It is about 2001 not today. Now they have antennas for your cell phone to connect to on the plane itself. Wow you make yourself look really dumb. And it has to do with altitudes.
Yes we can of course LLLLOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLL America hasn't changed with Obama. Believe him? On what? Get America out of the wars? He said he would, he lied. Jesse Ventura is right, in America the president doesn't call the shots, corporations do, like all over the planet. Close Guantanamo? He said he would do it, he lied. Keep your life, believe in republicans and democrats and be happy your way. By the way i'm not American, i'm just Ventura's fan.
Terrorists are real just like Jews were subhuman, everyone who looked Japanese was part of World War 1 and women who are strong were witches.
"Terrorist" is the guise currently being used by our government as a scapegoat. I mean, you can really call anyone a "terrorist".
Last year, a white guy went nuts over taxes and blew up his house and flew a plane into the IRS building. But, since he was white, he was just "crazy" and not a terrorist.
OK, there's a problem with the video even though it doesn't matter. I'll explain both. Sometime between 2001 and now there have been upgrades to assure that cellphones DO indeed work in airplanes. We'd have to know when J.V. made this video to know if it was before or after this upgrade. Secondly, the conditions on 911 (reduced altitude etc.) may have allowed greater likelihood of a cell phone connection for the small number of calls (2) thought to have been made from cell phones that day.
@MrMZaccone OK, heres the problem with retards like you spreading internet rumors, and pretending its fact. 1) The ONLY upgrades were that some 121 carriers (like AA) installed a cell router inside their planes. 2) Cells CAN work in planes though poorly and drop frequently), and its actually an FCC restriction as WELL as an FAA one. 3) the only calls made on 911 that were from cells (v seatback airphones) were at very low alts.
@EdgemanLL2 What rumor did I pretend was fact? I think if you re-read my post you'll find we're on the same side of the argument. I pointed out did I not, that only 2 calls were made from cells that day? Need I point out that both calls were dropped? My only complaint about the video is that we need more information to know whether or not the points made in it actually matter to the argument at hand. If you're still having trouble understanding, ask your TSS for help.
@MrMZaccone The rumor that (as evidenced by your problem with the video) that cell phones wouldnt have worked on 911. Admittedly, they would have worked very poorly, if tried at high Alt.
But, even back before 2001, Flight Attendants always warned you to NOT use your cell in flight. They wouldnt warn you to NO use it, if you already couldnt use it.
And since the upgrades were for the PLANES (not phones) there is NO appreciable difference between JVs phone technology and those on 911
@EdgemanLL2 Let's start with this so you will finally get the idea that I'm on your side. Of course cell phones could have worked from planes on 9/11 albeit, probably not very well. Only two of the calls made from planes on 9/11 were from cell phones, they were indeed made from fairly low altitude and they were dropped fairly quickly so the point is moot. My only argument with this video is that because things have changed since 9/11 it doesn't address the point reliably...
@EdgemanLL2 Have you gotten your head out of your ass yet and realized you're not talking to someone in the "truth" movement or do I have to send a note home with you on the short bus? "The upgrades were for planes" ... OK, and Jesse is on a ... anyone ... anyone ... Bueller? My only point is that the video doesn't efficiently debunk the already demonstrably false claims of the "truth" movement. This video gives them far too much weight and then doesn't cover all the bases.
@EdgemanLL2 You've done no such thing. You clarified things I said but you contradicted nothing. You falsely accused me of spreading rumors and pretending they are facts, which I did NOT do. The argument you're defending has holes in it big enough to walk through. It's IRRELEVANT that the arguments fielded by the so called "truth" movement are as bad or worse. If you want to win, you must use superior tactics and you don't know how. I'm ashamed to be on the same side as a moron like you.
@EdgemanLL2 Much better to just demonstrate once again that the claims were falsifiable back then, rather than try to claim that because they don't apply now that means they didn't apply then. This is weak, fallacious and exactly the kind of shit a "truther" would do and we're better than that. Well ... I am. You apparently, are still wondering why there's a date on sour cream.
Dont you think what is more hurtful to the families is the fact that their loved ones are dead, and that thier own government killed them. You can laugh and mock us and whatever you like, it is still your right for now. But what I so love is the people like you who are jeks about us, and even more the assholes that know the truth and turn the other cheek, I cant wait for when the shit hits the fan. It may not be right but you will all get a big freakin "I TOLD YOU SO!!!"
@jgjennifergreen1 Whats harmful to the families is you people shitting on their dead loved ones. Mocking their deaths with ridiculous, self serving waltty mitty fantasies. Denying their loved ones an honest account in history.
Thats why the fams hate you idiot. Thats why (when they go to memorials, and such) they have to hire their own security to keep you assholes from harassing them.
Ud better hope there isnt an afterlife. Because there are 3k people ready to beat your ass.
@EdgemanLL2 Look m.f. I do not mock anyones death. It is a horrible tragedy what happened to all of those innocent people, and I pray their spirits are free. But, more & more families are waking up, realizing, something isnt right. They question & they should. It is their right. I am not denying them an honest history, Im trying to help them find it & closure to something that never should have happened. BTW, almost ALL of history is made, one way or another. Our govmnt has ALWAYS lied to us.
@jgjennifergreen1 Of COURS E you mock them, motherfuxer. The ENTIRE kook movement is a mockery. You LIE to get Osama off the hook. You make a joke of the death. "Hey, 3k people died from a terrorist attack! But you know what would be really funny? left lie and pretend gubbmint did it! Then all the girls in the high school lunch line will think we're cool, dangerous and ungovernable for bashing govt!
Pathtic. Try viagra if youve got trouble getting wood. Leave the dead be.
@EdgemanLL2 1st off you stupid mother fucker, I am a woman, No I am not trying to get Osama off, maybe he did have a part in it. Or maybe he filmed everything as a patsy. Oswald was a patsy. Our last great president was murdered by our own government, just as his brother RFK, just as MLK was. Anytime someone gets that close, they are murdered by OUR UNITED STATES OF AMERICA GOVERNMENT!! I WANT WHOEVER DID THIS BROUGHT TO JUSTICE. Besides, Osama Bin Laden died back in December of 01 or in 02.
@EdgemanLL2 YOU ARE A FUCKING MORON, AND WHEN THE shts, PLEASE KNOW AND TAKE NOTE, THAT I TOLD YOU SO!!! NO ONE IS SHITTING ON THE DEAD BUT YOU THAT WONT EVEN OPEN YOUR BRAINWASHED MIND UP, JUST A LITTLE BIT, TO EVEN LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE AND SEE CLEARLY THAT IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE AND THERE ARE GAPS IN THE 911 COMMISSION STORY AS WELL AS BUSH/CHENEY ADMINISTRATION. WHY WOULD THEY NOT BE INTERVIEWED SEPARATELY & HOW DID BUSH SEE THE 1ST PLANE HIT, WHEN NO ONE SAW THAT FOOTAGE UNTIL 9/12? I CAN GO
Respond to this video... ON, BUT SEEING HOW YOU WONT EVEN OPEN YOUR MIND OR YOUR EYES, YOU CAN SIT HERE AND CONTINUE TO GET FISTED YOURSELF BY THE GOVERNMENT. HAPPY SLAVERY MOTHER FUCKER!!
@jgjennifergreen1 <--Wow, Dateless, bitter and screaming at the YT on a Sat night? you must REALLY have some serious sexual frustration. No wonder you go to such ghoulish lengths as shitting on the dead to get aroused.
Fisting didnt work for you huh?
Have you tried leaning against the washing machine during the spin cycle?
whatever you need to do, your shitting on the dead needs to stop. Work on it,
@EdgemanLL2 Benazir Buttho said it herself (She was the PAksitani president) and she was assassinated a week later. Hell even Madeline Albright said it that he was dead years ago. And if you look it up Donald Rumsfeld fucked up by saying the plane in Shanksville, PA was SHOT DOWN! That had never been released. YES 3k PEOPLE DID DIE FROM A TERRORIST ATTACK, AND THE TERRORIST IS OUR OWN GOVERNMENT. Not all of them just a few, GEORGE W BUSH, DICK CHENEY, DONALD RUMSFELD,THE ILLUMINATI MOTHER FUCKER
so u discredit all the compelling evidence and i did say evidence and focus on cell phones... the fact it the truth movement honors the families of the victims cause we wanna find out if their own govt. murdered them. dnt forget pearl harbor and gulf of tonkin.
@jackblacksutube Kook movement shits on the dead, and terrorizes families. Thats why fams hire private security to keep you scumbag Alqaeda supporters away from them, when they go to memorials.
@EdgemanLL2 im all for keeping the victims' families safe from the "kooks" but i dnt believe we're alqaeda supporters. we just dnt believe we're being told the truth and so far are questions haven't been answered. theres too many anomolies in the entire event that dnt add up. and as americans we have the rite to question. its not like this is soviet russia
Of COURSE youre alqaeda supporters Youre a pro-bono lawyer for Alqaeda, in the court of public opinion. "Hey everyone! My client didnt do it! Forget all the evidence, its all faked! Forget all the witnesses, they all lie! Forget all the experts, they are all paid off! my client was framed I tellz ya!"
be grateful the current administration doesnt take treason any more seriously than the previous.
@EdgemanLL2 OF COURSE the administration doesnt care about treason... they're committing it! you have no argument. do some research and crawl out of that pea sized brain you have. and by the way the so called evidence you talk about isnt consistant, and plenty of experts are willing to tell u thos building came down by controlled demolition, theres also penty of witnesses who were there to tell you they heard bombs. i guess the invisible alqaeda took down building 7 too right.
@jackblacksutube LOL, "do some research" is what kooks say when they lose. Another problem (if you took your own advice, and do some research, and use your pea-sized brain) is the "plenty of experts" who say it was a CD are NOT EXPERTS IN CDS. They are experts in computer programming, fam practice medicine, theology, or talk fucking radio.
Of the two "experts" used, 1) backpedalled immediately, and 2) expertise consisted of ONE MONTH before 911 being liscenced to TRANSPORT explosives ONLY.
Cont--In contrast, real, no shit engineers have written countless peer-reviewed papers explaining the subject.
Further, MORON, people say they hear EXPLOSIONS. Explosions happen in burning buildings, idiot. Hearing something that "sounded like a bomb" is a simple use of a simile.
Education isnt for everyone. In your case, youre better off continuing to avoid it. =]
@EdgemanLL2 PA plane crash found no bodies and the plane "disinegrated" yet a plastic bag with someones info was recovered. pentagon security tapes show no plane hitting the building only a streak of light. the damage was inconsistant as the left side of the bulding was still intact, papers and desks inside were unscathed. twin towers came down within minutes. buldings have remained standing longer while inflamed. and finally bulding 7 came down controlled minutes after the twins. HOW?
@Achmedstube youre unqualified on every last statement you made. personal effects of some sort survive every crash.
How many buildings, have the same height, design, construction, et as the WTC have been slammed into by speeding 767's, burned for longer, and survived?
@EdgemanLL2 so where are the bodies then. im unqualified but im just stating facts. and why are u side stepping building 7. please explain to me how building 7 which was standing, NOT hit by a plane came down in a controlled fashion due to fires. and your going to focus on two people when 700 EXPERTS want an investigation.
What makes you think there should be bodies, after a plane CFIT's at 500 mph, when its never been that case in the past?
And youre going to focus on the fact that the 700 are NOT experts in the relevant science. Demolition. =]
BTW, there are hundreds of MILLIONS of Archs and engineers worldwide. So, basically, there are more people who believe the earth is FLAT than engineers who peddle 911 kookery. Good one! Very convincing.
@bigbrothergivesittomeintheass. why are u making irrelevant arguments. world being flat has nothing to do with this dipshit. that doesnt matter any way. countless demolition experts believe building 7 was a cd. some even say all 3 buildings
@Alqaedautube Its not irrelevant, its 100% relevant. YOU claim 700 as though its some huge number, In reality, its less than 1/100th of ONE FUXING PERCENT of the "experts" as you defined them.
when youre getting laughed at 100000 to 1, its very clear that experts arent on your side.
Why did you cry over my Alqaeda reference, Achmed?
@EdgemanLL2 so personal effects survive every now and then but an entire plane didnt? twice. 2nd being the pentagon. how does that make sense? what about the explosive material found at the bottom of the wtc? how bout the black boxes that were never recovered.built to withstand 2000 degrees for an hour. answer my questions with an educated answer....
@achmedsutube Yes. if you did this thing called "RESEARCH" youd know that no one familiar with airline crashes is suprised to find various personal effects.
Just because youre too stupid to understand what happened is NOT proof it didnt happen.
Black boxes, for example? You claim they should have survived?
Great, show your calculations, comparing the forces invovled against the design tolerance of the unit. Otherwise, stfu. =]
@EdgemanLL2 you make all these arguments but your not answering the real question. where did the plane go. what did your research tell u there. why did building 7 come down identical to a cd. why was the pentagon damage inconsistant.
@EdgemanLL2 and countless reporters who were there rather than watching the event on tv saw no second plane and heard no plane. they only saw an explosion.
@EdgemanLL2 "Earlier this year, we reported on the testimony of an anonymous EMT named Mike who told Loose Change producer Dylan Avery that hundreds of emergency rescue personnel were told over bullhorns that Building 7, a 47 story skyscraper adjacent the twin towers that was not hit by a plane yet imploded symmetrically later in the afternoon on 9/11, was about to be "pulled" and that a 20 second radio countdown preceded its collapse."
Ok, so you lied about, bodies, NYPD quotes, black boxes, "experts" and just about everything else. So you ran off after I wouldnt let you change the subject?
@EdgemanLL2 im not trying to present proof. im asking questions and asking ur opinion. ur obsessed with debunking so of course ur going to attack and shut me up. its cool ill let u have the last word
Jesse ventura- ex navy seal ex governor, and the guy that used to make you hate him in WWF. hes a dis-info guy still working for the man, guaranteed. not even his real name
Hey ConservativeIdiot, you DO realize that this is TV. Gotta love the magic of TV and its editing, how do you know he was actually on his phone at the time? Producers could have just told him to pretend he was talking to her? And I bet you didn't know that personal jets fly at a lower altitude than commercial.. Learn your facts so you don't look like such a Right Wing NUTJOB that you are.
Hey ConservativeIdiot, you DO realize that this is TV. Gotta love the magic of TV and its editing, how do you know he was actually on his phone at the time? Producers could have just told him to pretend he was talking to her? And I bet you didn't know that personal jets fly at a lower altitude than commercial.. Learn your facts so you don't look like such a Right Wing NUTJOB that you are.
Nice to see another brainwashed dumbass spewing the bullshit hes programmed to and is to dumb to realise it.This twat who made the video is like many other so called debunkers that aint got a fucking clue yet call us crazy for knowing what were talking about
Initially i thought you had actually made a good point but this was changed quickly. First, like people say, its only in the recent years -after- 911 that mobiles are able to work on planes / high altitude. Second, he must not actually be talking to her when they are filming (it is TV). Third, BUSH did not PLAN 911, this is ridiculous to say. Then you go on talking about Obama conspiracies, leaving out Bush. Cmon.
ur a fuckin conspiracy nut and a racist....u base the whole 911 conspiracy debunkin on a phone call jesse ventura made, in 2001 people couldn't ring on a plane ya bleedin fool, there wer no heroes on them planes, 200 people did nothing to stop 4 'terrorists' with box cutters, pussies galour
This is just more disinfo agent provacetuer video, coming from a moron, whom hasn't even done enough of his/her own research to get the facts...move along folks, LETS NOT FEED THE TROLLS!!!
@shineurs2 after making this comment, i channel surfed on over tto this channel user, ***ConservativeCalvary*** & realized i had a qualm with him 6 MOS. ago over the same agenda...disinfo baiting of another kind...FAIL!
are you serious?please tell me your kidding,i'm ashamed that you are Canadian.I usually have fun laughing at how blind and ridiculously ignorant americans were.Now I have to accept that the flouride which you seem to enjoy,flouride sulphides are used in rat poison by the way,are seriously affecting Canadians.Maybe just you,you swallow your toothpaste huh?Didn't your mommy teach you not to eat toothpaste?Cell phones didn't work nine yrs ago dipshit.Thats why they had cabin phones.cont..
The simple fact is there there is no reason a cell phone shouldn't work from a jet, especially over or near a well populated city with plenty of towers. Cell phones work in buses, trains, cars, steel buildings, etc etc etc etc. This claim of cell phones not working from jets is just plane nonsense.
@ConservativeCavalry watch?v=_Kop4nR_UVc&feature=related that explains how that claim is true, they called when they where at high altitudes above Pennsylvania! plus the phone calls where just so fake one of the most famous calls started off like this "MOM!, this is Mark Bingham..." who the fuck would talk to their own mom like that lol! those calls where just added for a stronger patho's effect, therefore creating a strong etho's effect, which causes people to never dare doubt that day!
@xxxslayerxxx666 If you listened to what they were saying, he would always do that for all his phone calls, even to his family.. as his own mother tells you that during the interview. Ignoring evidence much or busy watching cut versions of a story or not doing any real research?
@RelixKondor if you stopped condescending and learn to listen to all sides of the story maybe you would see that the media is fabricating what happened on 9/11, i shouldn't even have to elaborate, just look it up for yourself, secrecy is inevitable in government, those who are more powerful hold the deepest secrets....but be real dude, NOBODY goes "mom, this is mark bingham", especially to their own mom who knows their voice, i can only understand that robotic line being used in business calls!
@xxxslayerxxx666 Be real dude? The last "real" conspiracies that happened were all found out due to 1 error. Look at enron, watergate, Iran-contra. A conspiracy of that scale that you are dreaming up is logically impossible to keep under wraps.
I've also checked all of your 'fabricating,' it seems to be coming from your group. Quoting witnesses out of context is great, ignoring the scientific method is fine, and apparently attacking me with a vague claim is okay too for your group.
@RelixKondor first off, i'm not in a "group" second off, i'm talking about MEDIA FABRICATION, not some video of things taken out of context, i'm not an idiot, i'm aware of the whole sound bite approach when people want to make it seem like complete truth, yet disregard anything proving otherwise or information that would expose their propaganda, there's propaganda on both sides....i've watched national geographics take on 9/11 and i no longer believe in the controlled demolition explanation.
@RelixKondor but that doesn't mean that the CIA didn't hire those terrorists themselves, after all, osama did work for the CIA.....but there is mainly more propaganda on the truthers side(think about it though, they are DESPERATE to prove something from nothing, that doesn't make everything false,WHAT IF it was the truth, and they are really angry because of the fact that there is no indubitable evidence that supports a conspiracy, bilderberg is the closest there is)
@RelixKondor but many truthers claim that they have been infiltrated by sleeper agents, and only the wise can separate a real truther from a phony one....they believe that there is so much disinfo in the movement because it will make them look bad when the media portrays their messages(well sound bited messages lol) and this show is obviously fake, not the info, just the way they act as if it's their first time discovering it lol.
@RelixKondor and what's this "error" that you speak of, i wasn't alive in those times, all i know vaguely about is iran-contra, where we traded weapons for hostages with the taliban(the main reason was because they didn't want to risk the soviets taking over that country cause then they would close in on us eventually) and now they claim that they just "turned bad" and became terrorists, bs.....look up al qaeda doesn't exist if you want to know what went down in those years.
@RelixKondor ohh and since you also seem to be a man of science you will like "9/11 eyewitness hoboken" it's NOTHING like other 9/11 vids, this one doesn't make wild accusation, it's just pure math and science!
@xxxslayerxxx666 Blah blah blah. Frist, Osama was never trained by or worked for the CIA.
Second, why would the CIA risk hiring these people when Osama had reasons? You clearly don't know the history of Osama. There's a lot of data that proves his intent, even a confession. Occam's razor mean anything to you?
Third, Al Qaeda has nothing to do w/ the Iran-contra affair. It started to fall apart due to a newspaper mentioning the US w/, oh my god, FACTS. See how large conspiracies fall apart?
@xxxslayerxxx666 You coward. You conspiracy theorists are all the same. Presented with fact, you either run, change the subject, or attack the fact giver. Occam's Razor isn't just "common sense" either.
And after all those posts, little doggy, you bark bark and no bite? It doesn't make sense for a person to drone on and on then suddenly lose after a single post.
This is why the media and the academic community ignore your kind.
@RelixKondor dude, get off of your power trip, at least i have the humility to admit i am wrong....but when it comes to stuff like this NEITHER side KNOWS what the truth is, so just do yourself a favor and slit your throat with your stupid occam's razor you prentious piece of shit.....now THAT is me attacking you, i NEVER attacked you, YOU were the only one that did! asshole!
@xxxslayerxxx666 Actually, we do know what the truth is for this citation. You refuse to believe it. Also, by attack, I mean ad homemin, which is a fallacy of logic where you attack the person rather than their argument. My argument was that you were wrong about Mark Bingham; but I had to stop 'condescending' and 'listen' to both sides... what does that have to do with Mark?
Then you deny Occam's Razor & go to direct curse word. Congrats, you are a conspiracy theorist :P
@RelixKondor Amen, brother. These conspiracy nuts will never be convinced. Just like those thousands of scientists who believe in creationism and who supposedly have "strong evidence" to support it. Their minds are already made up ahead of time. Fuck conspiracy theorists.
@RelixKondor For give us for questioning everything. I guess we are bad americans because we dont roll over when we're told. "Listen to everyone, read everything; believe absolutely nothing unless you can prove it in your own right!" -William Cooper
@NazcarFanatic24 There's a distinct difference between questioning everything and ignoring details. But let me use what I had said 9 months ago to analyse your reply:
"For give us for questioning everything. I guess we are bad americans because we dont roll over when we're told." You are presenting your kind as wronged heros, when you aren't anything special. You are changing the subject to your kind, rather than the video. Why don't you try to debunk the claim made in the video first?
@RelixKondor plus the osama confessions are faked, it's proven fact that look-alikes pulled a media hoax(because they know how we work) plus osama HAS worked for the CIA, you can go on wikileaks(dot)org and see that....i'm sure you've heard of that website thanks to the daily show and colbert report, but if not, it's a famous whistleblower website, and they are considered a terrorist group, for exposing the TRUTH! so that guy constantly has to move across states, and his IP is encrypted.
@xxxslayerxxx666 But I must add a second post with another statement: You ad hominem fallacy. My post was originally about you being wrong about Mark Bingham, which, as you did cherry pick information, you believed. I am fully aware of a video by RKOwens4 that disproves that theory as well. Though, I don't know why he had to make a video when LOGIC can be used to listen to his mother talking.
You deliberately took information out of context then, when I called you out, you attacked me.
@ OP: Hahaha wow, you really showed your cards here (being a dumbass).
The claim isn't 'cell phones don't work on jets', like you erroneously think, the claim is that, 'at that altitude in 2001 cell phones didn't work'.
It is SO funny that you try to debunk a claim and you don't even know what the claim is! LOL!!!
I could go on about the inaccuracies in the video but judging from the ratio of dislikes to likes its obvious people have seen through your shitty video and incorrect information!
@322About2BreakUDown , just how high do you think those towers are? Just what do you think those pointy things are on the top of those buildings. Those planes weren't flying at "altitude" they were flying low enough to hit the CIA building.
@ConservativeCavalry, Are you saying that the calls were made on their 'final descent' minutes before impact? The whole conspiracy is about calls being made after the initial hijacking at high altitudes, not when they have dipped down to impact their targets. Do some research.
And you fail once again to understand that technology has greatly improved in the MANY YEARS since the tragic events of 9/11 and the taping of this show.
You have proven nothing but your ignorance with this video.
@lnclincoln Theny why, in 2001, did the flight attendants tell you to not use your phones to make calls in flight, if you couldnt do it even if you wanted to?
your claim that Jesse DEBUNKS his own conspiracy theory holds no value. You have the right to your opinion and we thank you for it. In closing I would like to say this video you produced is your opinion and should be stated as so.
This clown is a fake,phony asswipe who plays tough but is a PUSSY.He thinks he's James Bond or some CIA operative.Go back to the phony wrestling asshole.
heads up: radio signals don't work by line-of-sight, they do, however, work a LOT better with a clear line of sight (no buildings or trees in the way)
in practice, cellphones 'don't work on airplanes' mainly because of regulations involving interference with flight control instruments. If this wasn't a problem, the reception would be awesome, but you would be handing off between cell towers like noone's business
It's about the altitude, not about the plane itself. The signal won't reach up to the height a commercial airliner will be at. The plane Jesse Ventura was in was at a low altitude, therefore in the range to make a phone call. Therefore the theory is not 100% wrong and you need to research better before you make stupid videos.
this video is such a load of crap. first of all an airplane is not a bus or a train it's an airplane that flies at high altitudes. its not about the object its the altitude. and as bongochris says "the technic (technology) for cell phones to work in high altitude was made available in 2004 - FAIL" and the show was filmed a couple of years in the future. what a shill, conserativecavalry ur a fucken hypocrite!
I think you have made a gaff - you're apparent attempt to debunk falls short - the question was - did cell phones work that way in 2001? To force one to use the planes phones - did those planes have devices to block the signal? I think that was the original conspiracy theory. Truth is I sit on the fence, I would love to find the government guilty, but this doesn't make sense - if this is the best you can do - you should just give up unless you think we are stupid. It ain't gonna fly.
@niteme That isn't the best I can do, but claiming that planes "block" cell phones is absurd, unless you can provide evidence of it. People today, as Jessie proves, use call phones on no commercial flights.
The best evidence against an inside job for 911 is that there are no sounds attached to the fall of the towers. If you have ever heard a controlled demolition, there is no masking the noise.
@ConservativeCavalry WT-F you talking about. My comment was "It was nice until he went off on Obama." you talking about cell phones for. I said nothing related to it. And yes I understand cell phones work omnidirectional. As for the lack of sound for the bombs nuts claim, well they minor detail won't stop their nutty claim. I learn to just stop trying to convince people of the truth. If they want to think thousands of people in the US gov. did 911, there is nothing you can show or say.
@ConservativeCavalry well plenty of WTC workers say they heard and felt explosions in the basement before the first plane hit.....and firefighters say that when the first tower began to collapse he heard several explosions being set off perfectly timed with the collapse....also what about the fact that thermite was found in the ash?! i have yet to find a proper debunking!
@xxxslayerxxx666 I haven't seen where any witness claims they heard any preceding explosions but the feeling of explosions must happen due to the different speeds of sound in air and steel, the time difference being less the closer a person is to the plane's impact.
@ConservativeCavalry well i've heard a firefighter say that he heard explosions as the building was collapsing, and what about that infamous explosion in the basement seconds before the first plane hit?
billions in illegal transactions done prior to the attack.billions more in gold bullion missing from the basement.(I guess bin laden trucked that to the airport and flew off with it after he was done rigging up 3 hi rise buildings with professional demo shots)he also took the black boxes with him.U are so stupid.where are the peopl from Fl.93.after they landed in Cleveland(not crashed in Penn.) were they murdered?Brainwashed?Ask these Q. as well as how do U breath with your head so far up ur ass
I dont know who cooked up this video but your fckd.#1 modern corporate jets have cell and internet capabilities.The planes in 911 did not.#2Airlines installed this service in2004.#3watch the loosechange production(1hr19min. duration) which presents enough compelling documented evidence in the 1st 15 min. to prosecute the dirty bastards responsible for this heinous crime.#4Hit the road jackass nobody is buying your lame amateur video
lol,even if its possible near ground to use a cell in a plane,it doesnt proof that the war was justyfied. (I definatly can admit that cell´s doesnt worked in my plane as i was on a vacation on the philippines)
WOW you are fucken stupid. You dont know anything about the 911 truth. Jesse Ventura didnt do a good job on the 911 episode i suggest you watch the CDC episode on 911...
@ConservativeCavalry those supposed calls were made when they flew over Pennsylvania, why on earth would someone call their parents right when they were about to hit the towers? plus who on earth calls their mom and says "mom! it's mark bingham"?!?!
Dude Show me a video of a plane hitting building 7 or STFU. Sure some nuts said things about no planes hitting the twin towers, or the cellphone subject, But thats not the general concensus. Building 7 & the military drills running that day or STFU. You're like a chicken defending the fox...
At any rate Iraq was in violation of the UN sanctions. Not that I agree that our military should have gone there, I'm just saying. There were some "WMD's" Supposedly present.
Some people may believe that Bush executed the attack on the WTC towers, what I think people most believe is that the government simply allowed it to happen. FYI supposedly Mustard gas filled artillery rounds were found in Iraq (technically WMD's) of course they were found almost immediately when our forces took over Iraq, yet UN officials didn't find them, hmm? Ventura also speaks about Obama, Gore's, etc. plan to take over with carbon legislation in his "Global Warming" episode
@siradon2000 actualy with due respect the united states sold some weapons to the Iraqis for the iran and iraq war. technically the WMD you're talking about was already present at the time. Mostly we are talking about new weapons like a nuclear missile ICBM's or a ship filled with nuclear devices ready to be detonated at a single button.
No, Bush believed Iraq was moving toward nuclear weapons. However if you want a definition of WMD's here it is. WMD) is a weapon that can kill large numbers of humans and/or cause great damage to man-made structures (e.g. buildings), natural structures (e.g. mountains), or the biosphere in general. The scope and application of the term has evolved and been disputed, often signifying more politically than technically. Coined in reference to aerial bombing with chemical explosives, cont
it has come to distinguish large-scale weaponry of other technologies, such as chemical, biological, radiological, or nuclear. This differentiates the term from more technnical ones such as chemical, biological, radiological, and nuclear weapons (CRBN).
I absolutely love these 911 Truthers. Thousands of people watch 2 jet fly into buildings and they will even deny jets flew into the buildings. If people won't even believe their eyes you can convince them of anything.
Once upon a time one person said no planes hit the towers and the new picked it up and NOW all 911 truthers are said to believe there were NO Planes??? YOUR WRONG we believe that two planes hit the twin towers! So when you spread your propaganda all over, think about what you are doing and how we all pay for through karma. If you are getting paid for this then you are making money off of others Deaths.
I have no doubt that planes hit the WTC buildings. However I do question some of the footage that was released by the FBI in particular one video that had a rather broad view of the second plane hitting. As you watch the plane go by buildings the tail of the plane remains to the left of one of the buildings as the plane passes the opposite side and past 3 more buildings. Once it passes the other 3 buildings the tail does disappear. It happens in about 2 seconds worth of footage... curious.
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this appears to be another citizenfor911truth1 guy, Heres the BIG picture for you: Out of the 4 "planes" i use that word lightly, considering 2 planes were retired, and the other 2 werent scheduled to fly that day you could fit them all into one,falsh back to the one flight that landed in ohio.the calls could have been while they were loading all pass, into that flight then shot it down in penn, We are just going off there lie, they cant explain it,But lets not ever investigate,2mch2ask4
The video is correct about debunking the cell phone conspiracy. But the video is not quite correct about some of its other claims. Health care is not about "no choice" its about access and the reckless behavior of insurance companies who often leave legitimate patients with little or no choice.
HimJimRimDim 1 month ago
I am not saying that the conspiracy theories are not hurtful to some families of the victims of 9/11, but it is not hurtful to all of them. There are many that are pushing for these theories to be tested, and for their questions to be answered. Many relatives of the victims feel that things just don't add up. I'm not saying they found those black boxes, I'm not saying there were explosives in the towers. I'm simply asking questions.
wakeupkilluminati 5 months ago
You are an idiot. It is about 2001 not today. Now they have antennas for your cell phone to connect to on the plane itself. Wow you make yourself look really dumb. And it has to do with altitudes.
tgotto1987 5 months ago
@terrorzona78 <--couldnt refute me.
Edge wins!
EdgemanLL2 5 months ago
Jesse Ventura should be killed and the money he made off the shows given to the families of 9/11 victims
lojudah845 5 months ago
@terrorzona78 Lets talk about "ever thing you just posted has already beem debunked years ago."
edge wins!
EdgemanLL2 6 months ago
Yes we can of course LLLLOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLL America hasn't changed with Obama. Believe him? On what? Get America out of the wars? He said he would, he lied. Jesse Ventura is right, in America the president doesn't call the shots, corporations do, like all over the planet. Close Guantanamo? He said he would do it, he lied. Keep your life, believe in republicans and democrats and be happy your way. By the way i'm not American, i'm just Ventura's fan.
escorpiaovermelho 6 months ago
Terrorists are real just like Jews were subhuman, everyone who looked Japanese was part of World War 1 and women who are strong were witches.
"Terrorist" is the guise currently being used by our government as a scapegoat. I mean, you can really call anyone a "terrorist".
Last year, a white guy went nuts over taxes and blew up his house and flew a plane into the IRS building. But, since he was white, he was just "crazy" and not a terrorist.
Did you even know that happened? No? Exactly.
Mandama004 7 months ago
OK, there's a problem with the video even though it doesn't matter. I'll explain both. Sometime between 2001 and now there have been upgrades to assure that cellphones DO indeed work in airplanes. We'd have to know when J.V. made this video to know if it was before or after this upgrade. Secondly, the conditions on 911 (reduced altitude etc.) may have allowed greater likelihood of a cell phone connection for the small number of calls (2) thought to have been made from cell phones that day.
MrMZaccone 8 months ago
@MrMZaccone OK, heres the problem with retards like you spreading internet rumors, and pretending its fact. 1) The ONLY upgrades were that some 121 carriers (like AA) installed a cell router inside their planes. 2) Cells CAN work in planes though poorly and drop frequently), and its actually an FCC restriction as WELL as an FAA one. 3) the only calls made on 911 that were from cells (v seatback airphones) were at very low alts.
EdgemanLL2 7 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 What rumor did I pretend was fact? I think if you re-read my post you'll find we're on the same side of the argument. I pointed out did I not, that only 2 calls were made from cells that day? Need I point out that both calls were dropped? My only complaint about the video is that we need more information to know whether or not the points made in it actually matter to the argument at hand. If you're still having trouble understanding, ask your TSS for help.
MrMZaccone 7 months ago
@MrMZaccone The rumor that (as evidenced by your problem with the video) that cell phones wouldnt have worked on 911. Admittedly, they would have worked very poorly, if tried at high Alt.
But, even back before 2001, Flight Attendants always warned you to NOT use your cell in flight. They wouldnt warn you to NO use it, if you already couldnt use it.
And since the upgrades were for the PLANES (not phones) there is NO appreciable difference between JVs phone technology and those on 911
EdgemanLL2 7 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 Let's start with this so you will finally get the idea that I'm on your side. Of course cell phones could have worked from planes on 9/11 albeit, probably not very well. Only two of the calls made from planes on 9/11 were from cell phones, they were indeed made from fairly low altitude and they were dropped fairly quickly so the point is moot. My only argument with this video is that because things have changed since 9/11 it doesn't address the point reliably...
MrMZaccone 7 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 Have you gotten your head out of your ass yet and realized you're not talking to someone in the "truth" movement or do I have to send a note home with you on the short bus? "The upgrades were for planes" ... OK, and Jesse is on a ... anyone ... anyone ... Bueller? My only point is that the video doesn't efficiently debunk the already demonstrably false claims of the "truth" movement. This video gives them far too much weight and then doesn't cover all the bases.
MrMZaccone 7 months ago
@MrMoronccone have you gotten your head out of your ass yet, and realized I dont give a fuck whose side your one, or if youre a 911 kook or not?
Youre still wrong.
PS, you wouldnt be defending the kookery, unless you really WERE om their side. Busted
EdgemanLL2 7 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 I'm wrong? Cite ANYTHING I've said that's wrong.
MrMZaccone 7 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 I'm not defending the kookery, I'm trying to get the non-kook side of the argument to stop arguing like kooks.
MrMZaccone 7 months ago
@MrMZaccone <--Kook. Ive already explained what you said that was wrong.
If youre having trouble with the big words, get an adult to explain them to you.
EdgemanLL2 7 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 You've done no such thing. You clarified things I said but you contradicted nothing. You falsely accused me of spreading rumors and pretending they are facts, which I did NOT do. The argument you're defending has holes in it big enough to walk through. It's IRRELEVANT that the arguments fielded by the so called "truth" movement are as bad or worse. If you want to win, you must use superior tactics and you don't know how. I'm ashamed to be on the same side as a moron like you.
MrMZaccone 7 months ago
@MrMZaccone then get an adult to explain it to you.
EdgemanLL2 7 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 I thought I was ... apparently not.
MrMZaccone 7 months ago
@MrMZaccone The adult in this convo has.
I meant you should find ANOTHER adult. Apparently you dont know any you can trust to be honest with you,
EdgemanLL2 7 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 Much better to just demonstrate once again that the claims were falsifiable back then, rather than try to claim that because they don't apply now that means they didn't apply then. This is weak, fallacious and exactly the kind of shit a "truther" would do and we're better than that. Well ... I am. You apparently, are still wondering why there's a date on sour cream.
MrMZaccone 7 months ago
Dont you think what is more hurtful to the families is the fact that their loved ones are dead, and that thier own government killed them. You can laugh and mock us and whatever you like, it is still your right for now. But what I so love is the people like you who are jeks about us, and even more the assholes that know the truth and turn the other cheek, I cant wait for when the shit hits the fan. It may not be right but you will all get a big freakin "I TOLD YOU SO!!!"
jgjennifergreen1 9 months ago
@jgjennifergreen1 Whats harmful to the families is you people shitting on their dead loved ones. Mocking their deaths with ridiculous, self serving waltty mitty fantasies. Denying their loved ones an honest account in history.
Thats why the fams hate you idiot. Thats why (when they go to memorials, and such) they have to hire their own security to keep you assholes from harassing them.
Ud better hope there isnt an afterlife. Because there are 3k people ready to beat your ass.
EdgemanLL2 8 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 Look m.f. I do not mock anyones death. It is a horrible tragedy what happened to all of those innocent people, and I pray their spirits are free. But, more & more families are waking up, realizing, something isnt right. They question & they should. It is their right. I am not denying them an honest history, Im trying to help them find it & closure to something that never should have happened. BTW, almost ALL of history is made, one way or another. Our govmnt has ALWAYS lied to us.
jgjennifergreen1 8 months ago
@jgjennifergreen1 Of COURS E you mock them, motherfuxer. The ENTIRE kook movement is a mockery. You LIE to get Osama off the hook. You make a joke of the death. "Hey, 3k people died from a terrorist attack! But you know what would be really funny? left lie and pretend gubbmint did it! Then all the girls in the high school lunch line will think we're cool, dangerous and ungovernable for bashing govt!
Pathtic. Try viagra if youve got trouble getting wood. Leave the dead be.
EdgemanLL2 8 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 1st off you stupid mother fucker, I am a woman, No I am not trying to get Osama off, maybe he did have a part in it. Or maybe he filmed everything as a patsy. Oswald was a patsy. Our last great president was murdered by our own government, just as his brother RFK, just as MLK was. Anytime someone gets that close, they are murdered by OUR UNITED STATES OF AMERICA GOVERNMENT!! I WANT WHOEVER DID THIS BROUGHT TO JUSTICE. Besides, Osama Bin Laden died back in December of 01 or in 02.
jgjennifergreen1 8 months ago
@jgjennifergreen1 OK, then take up fisting.
But shitting on the dead to get a nut is deplorable, ghoulish behavior. Stop that.
By all means, keep quoting GOVT types like Albright. it makes your "govt always lies" claim all the funnier. =]
EdgemanLL2 8 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 YOU ARE A FUCKING MORON, AND WHEN THE shts, PLEASE KNOW AND TAKE NOTE, THAT I TOLD YOU SO!!! NO ONE IS SHITTING ON THE DEAD BUT YOU THAT WONT EVEN OPEN YOUR BRAINWASHED MIND UP, JUST A LITTLE BIT, TO EVEN LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE AND SEE CLEARLY THAT IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE AND THERE ARE GAPS IN THE 911 COMMISSION STORY AS WELL AS BUSH/CHENEY ADMINISTRATION. WHY WOULD THEY NOT BE INTERVIEWED SEPARATELY & HOW DID BUSH SEE THE 1ST PLANE HIT, WHEN NO ONE SAW THAT FOOTAGE UNTIL 9/12? I CAN GO
jgjennifergreen1 8 months ago
@jgjennifergreen1 FUCK OFF!!!
jgjennifergreen1 8 months ago
@jgjennifergreen1 OK, so youre still very bitter that you cant get off any other way, than shitting on the dead...
1) Fisting didnt work
2) Leaning against the spin cycle didnt work.
Have you tried a Sears Die-Hard car batter hooked to your vibrator?
Keep trying different things. Because this ghoulish, sick, twisting "I have to shit on the dead to get a nut" is appalling.
Stop it.
EdgemanLL2 8 months ago
Respond to this video... ON, BUT SEEING HOW YOU WONT EVEN OPEN YOUR MIND OR YOUR EYES, YOU CAN SIT HERE AND CONTINUE TO GET FISTED YOURSELF BY THE GOVERNMENT. HAPPY SLAVERY MOTHER FUCKER!!
jgjennifergreen1 8 months ago
@jgjennifergreen1 <--Wow, Dateless, bitter and screaming at the YT on a Sat night? you must REALLY have some serious sexual frustration. No wonder you go to such ghoulish lengths as shitting on the dead to get aroused.
Fisting didnt work for you huh?
Have you tried leaning against the washing machine during the spin cycle?
whatever you need to do, your shitting on the dead needs to stop. Work on it,
EdgemanLL2 8 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 Benazir Buttho said it herself (She was the PAksitani president) and she was assassinated a week later. Hell even Madeline Albright said it that he was dead years ago. And if you look it up Donald Rumsfeld fucked up by saying the plane in Shanksville, PA was SHOT DOWN! That had never been released. YES 3k PEOPLE DID DIE FROM A TERRORIST ATTACK, AND THE TERRORIST IS OUR OWN GOVERNMENT. Not all of them just a few, GEORGE W BUSH, DICK CHENEY, DONALD RUMSFELD,THE ILLUMINATI MOTHER FUCKER
jgjennifergreen1 8 months ago
nice try... lol!
log140 10 months ago
this show is stupid and fake... the jews own the world. k bye
lilbribriboy 10 months ago
I guess ConservativeCavalry is supporting this never ending war to??
A war that cannot be end,because there is NO enemy or any ''Terrorists'' to begin with.
Even SOLDIERS are coming and say that ''even they cant see the diffrence anymore between citizen and enemy''. So they have to kill everyone instead.
Im glad to be a NON-American fool. :)
TELEFOON87 10 months ago
so u discredit all the compelling evidence and i did say evidence and focus on cell phones... the fact it the truth movement honors the families of the victims cause we wanna find out if their own govt. murdered them. dnt forget pearl harbor and gulf of tonkin.
jackblacksutube 10 months ago
@jackblacksutube Kook movement shits on the dead, and terrorizes families. Thats why fams hire private security to keep you scumbag Alqaeda supporters away from them, when they go to memorials.
EdgemanLL2 10 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 im pretty sure i havent harrassed any memorial goers. sit on dog shit
jackblacksutube 10 months ago
@jackblacksutube Im pretty sure Ive never specifically said you specifically had.
But you scumbag alqaeda supporters are abhorrent to the fams. The do all they can to keep you ghoulish circus freaks away from them.
EdgemanLL2 10 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 im all for keeping the victims' families safe from the "kooks" but i dnt believe we're alqaeda supporters. we just dnt believe we're being told the truth and so far are questions haven't been answered. theres too many anomolies in the entire event that dnt add up. and as americans we have the rite to question. its not like this is soviet russia
jackblacksutube 10 months ago
@jackblacksutube "kooks" meaning people like you.
Of COURSE youre alqaeda supporters Youre a pro-bono lawyer for Alqaeda, in the court of public opinion. "Hey everyone! My client didnt do it! Forget all the evidence, its all faked! Forget all the witnesses, they all lie! Forget all the experts, they are all paid off! my client was framed I tellz ya!"
be grateful the current administration doesnt take treason any more seriously than the previous.
EdgemanLL2 10 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 OF COURSE the administration doesnt care about treason... they're committing it! you have no argument. do some research and crawl out of that pea sized brain you have. and by the way the so called evidence you talk about isnt consistant, and plenty of experts are willing to tell u thos building came down by controlled demolition, theres also penty of witnesses who were there to tell you they heard bombs. i guess the invisible alqaeda took down building 7 too right.
jackblacksutube 10 months ago
@jackblacksutube LOL, "do some research" is what kooks say when they lose. Another problem (if you took your own advice, and do some research, and use your pea-sized brain) is the "plenty of experts" who say it was a CD are NOT EXPERTS IN CDS. They are experts in computer programming, fam practice medicine, theology, or talk fucking radio.
Of the two "experts" used, 1) backpedalled immediately, and 2) expertise consisted of ONE MONTH before 911 being liscenced to TRANSPORT explosives ONLY.
EdgemanLL2 10 months ago
Cont--In contrast, real, no shit engineers have written countless peer-reviewed papers explaining the subject.
Further, MORON, people say they hear EXPLOSIONS. Explosions happen in burning buildings, idiot. Hearing something that "sounded like a bomb" is a simple use of a simile.
Education isnt for everyone. In your case, youre better off continuing to avoid it. =]
EdgemanLL2 10 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 PA plane crash found no bodies and the plane "disinegrated" yet a plastic bag with someones info was recovered. pentagon security tapes show no plane hitting the building only a streak of light. the damage was inconsistant as the left side of the bulding was still intact, papers and desks inside were unscathed. twin towers came down within minutes. buldings have remained standing longer while inflamed. and finally bulding 7 came down controlled minutes after the twins. HOW?
jackblacksutube 10 months ago
@Achmedstube youre unqualified on every last statement you made. personal effects of some sort survive every crash.
How many buildings, have the same height, design, construction, et as the WTC have been slammed into by speeding 767's, burned for longer, and survived?
Want me to tell you? Zero. Coincidence?
EdgemanLL2 10 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 so where are the bodies then. im unqualified but im just stating facts. and why are u side stepping building 7. please explain to me how building 7 which was standing, NOT hit by a plane came down in a controlled fashion due to fires. and your going to focus on two people when 700 EXPERTS want an investigation.
jackblacksutube 10 months ago
@Achmedsutube
What makes you think there should be bodies, after a plane CFIT's at 500 mph, when its never been that case in the past?
And youre going to focus on the fact that the 700 are NOT experts in the relevant science. Demolition. =]
BTW, there are hundreds of MILLIONS of Archs and engineers worldwide. So, basically, there are more people who believe the earth is FLAT than engineers who peddle 911 kookery. Good one! Very convincing.
EdgemanLL2 10 months ago
@bigbrothergivesittomeintheass. why are u making irrelevant arguments. world being flat has nothing to do with this dipshit. that doesnt matter any way. countless demolition experts believe building 7 was a cd. some even say all 3 buildings
jackblacksutube 10 months ago
@Alqaedautube Its not irrelevant, its 100% relevant. YOU claim 700 as though its some huge number, In reality, its less than 1/100th of ONE FUXING PERCENT of the "experts" as you defined them.
when youre getting laughed at 100000 to 1, its very clear that experts arent on your side.
Why did you cry over my Alqaeda reference, Achmed?
EdgemanLL2 10 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 so personal effects survive every now and then but an entire plane didnt? twice. 2nd being the pentagon. how does that make sense? what about the explosive material found at the bottom of the wtc? how bout the black boxes that were never recovered.built to withstand 2000 degrees for an hour. answer my questions with an educated answer....
jackblacksutube 10 months ago
@achmedsutube Yes. if you did this thing called "RESEARCH" youd know that no one familiar with airline crashes is suprised to find various personal effects.
Just because youre too stupid to understand what happened is NOT proof it didnt happen.
Black boxes, for example? You claim they should have survived?
Great, show your calculations, comparing the forces invovled against the design tolerance of the unit. Otherwise, stfu. =]
EdgemanLL2 10 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 you make all these arguments but your not answering the real question. where did the plane go. what did your research tell u there. why did building 7 come down identical to a cd. why was the pentagon damage inconsistant.
jackblacksutube 10 months ago
@Achmedsutube The ONLY question is "where is your evidence of an inside job."
All YOU have done to answer that question is to ask other questions.
FAIL.
Asking questions isnt proof. It only proves you a moron.
Show PROOF. not "im too fuxing stupid to understand what happened, so heres a question"
EdgemanLL2 10 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 and countless reporters who were there rather than watching the event on tv saw no second plane and heard no plane. they only saw an explosion.
jackblacksutube 10 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 700+ architects and engineers demended an investigation when they saw the 3 buldings come down. im sure theres thousands more now.
jackblacksutube 10 months ago
@jackblacksutube Exactly TWO of which (arent even engineers) have ANY experience in a CD.
1 backpedalled immediatel
2nds only expertise is ONE MONTH of being legal to transport explosives
Where are you lost on this?
EdgemanLL2 10 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 "Earlier this year, we reported on the testimony of an anonymous EMT named Mike who told Loose Change producer Dylan Avery that hundreds of emergency rescue personnel were told over bullhorns that Building 7, a 47 story skyscraper adjacent the twin towers that was not hit by a plane yet imploded symmetrically later in the afternoon on 9/11, was about to be "pulled" and that a 20 second radio countdown preceded its collapse."
jackblacksutube 10 months ago
@Achmedsutube
Yes, and even Dylan Avery realized it was a hoax. Since mike claimed to be ab emt from NJ, when NO emts from NJ went to GZ.
Go ahead and link me TO the Barmter quote. =]
EdgemanLL2 10 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 "In addition, former NYPD officer Craig Bartmer described hearing bombs tear down the building as he fled the collapse."
jackblacksutube 10 months ago
@Achmedsutube OK, so you admit you lied about the black boxes, so you changed the subject .
Undetrstood. =]
EdgemanLL2 10 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 ive been on the subject. youve avoided it changing the argument.
jackblacksutube 10 months ago
@Achmedsutube
Is the subject "Jack is an idiot, and needs questions answered?"
yes or no?
EdgemanLL2 10 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 wow u insulted me again... good job
jackblacksutube 10 months ago
@Achmedsutube
Was that a yes or a no?
EdgemanLL2 10 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 haha. nice page. i didnt know u were obsessed. get a life faggot
jackblacksutube 10 months ago
@Achmedsutube
Again...was that a yes or a no?
EdgemanLL2 10 months ago
@Achmedutube
Ok, so you lied about, bodies, NYPD quotes, black boxes, "experts" and just about everything else. So you ran off after I wouldnt let you change the subject?
Another successful debunking! Edge wins!
EdgemanLL2 10 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 really? cause u didnt present any evidence. successful debunking my ass all u did was insult
jackblacksutube 10 months ago
@Achmedsutube YOU are the one making the claims.
YOU have to present the evidence. QUESTIONS are not evidence.
So, show PROOF that the human body should survive the forces specifically seen on 911.
Or, SFTU and we will admit you have no proof. Your choice.
EdgemanLL2 10 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 im not trying to present proof. im asking questions and asking ur opinion. ur obsessed with debunking so of course ur going to attack and shut me up. its cool ill let u have the last word
jackblacksutube 10 months ago
@Achmedksutube
OK, so you admit to having NO PROOF.
Edge wins. Total and complete, 100% surrender by Jack!
:::victory lap!::::
EdgemanLL2 10 months ago
A pathetic attempt at making a "debunking" video. Blind ignorance.
mycoolharmony 11 months ago
Jesse ventura- ex navy seal ex governor, and the guy that used to make you hate him in WWF. hes a dis-info guy still working for the man, guaranteed. not even his real name
TheNykademos 11 months ago
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Hey ConservativeIdiot, you DO realize that this is TV. Gotta love the magic of TV and its editing, how do you know he was actually on his phone at the time? Producers could have just told him to pretend he was talking to her? And I bet you didn't know that personal jets fly at a lower altitude than commercial.. Learn your facts so you don't look like such a Right Wing NUTJOB that you are.
XwhiteyX08 1 year ago
Hey ConservativeIdiot, you DO realize that this is TV. Gotta love the magic of TV and its editing, how do you know he was actually on his phone at the time? Producers could have just told him to pretend he was talking to her? And I bet you didn't know that personal jets fly at a lower altitude than commercial.. Learn your facts so you don't look like such a Right Wing NUTJOB that you are.
XwhiteyX08 1 year ago
Nice to see another brainwashed dumbass spewing the bullshit hes programmed to and is to dumb to realise it.This twat who made the video is like many other so called debunkers that aint got a fucking clue yet call us crazy for knowing what were talking about
MrVforvendetta10 1 year ago
haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!! what a clown jessica is
ThaWiseJester 1 year ago
Initially i thought you had actually made a good point but this was changed quickly. First, like people say, its only in the recent years -after- 911 that mobiles are able to work on planes / high altitude. Second, he must not actually be talking to her when they are filming (it is TV). Third, BUSH did not PLAN 911, this is ridiculous to say. Then you go on talking about Obama conspiracies, leaving out Bush. Cmon.
flukve 1 year ago
ur a fuckin conspiracy nut and a racist....u base the whole 911 conspiracy debunkin on a phone call jesse ventura made, in 2001 people couldn't ring on a plane ya bleedin fool, there wer no heroes on them planes, 200 people did nothing to stop 4 'terrorists' with box cutters, pussies galour
giddygiddy85 1 year ago
This is just more disinfo agent provacetuer video, coming from a moron, whom hasn't even done enough of his/her own research to get the facts...move along folks, LETS NOT FEED THE TROLLS!!!
shineurs2 1 year ago
@shineurs2 after making this comment, i channel surfed on over tto this channel user, ***ConservativeCalvary*** & realized i had a qualm with him 6 MOS. ago over the same agenda...disinfo baiting of another kind...FAIL!
shineurs2 1 year ago
are you serious?please tell me your kidding,i'm ashamed that you are Canadian.I usually have fun laughing at how blind and ridiculously ignorant americans were.Now I have to accept that the flouride which you seem to enjoy,flouride sulphides are used in rat poison by the way,are seriously affecting Canadians.Maybe just you,you swallow your toothpaste huh?Didn't your mommy teach you not to eat toothpaste?Cell phones didn't work nine yrs ago dipshit.Thats why they had cabin phones.cont..
Haplesshiccuper 1 year ago
The simple fact is there there is no reason a cell phone shouldn't work from a jet, especially over or near a well populated city with plenty of towers. Cell phones work in buses, trains, cars, steel buildings, etc etc etc etc. This claim of cell phones not working from jets is just plane nonsense.
ConservativeCavalry 1 year ago
@ConservativeCavalry watch?v=_Kop4nR_UVc&feature=related that explains how that claim is true, they called when they where at high altitudes above Pennsylvania! plus the phone calls where just so fake one of the most famous calls started off like this "MOM!, this is Mark Bingham..." who the fuck would talk to their own mom like that lol! those calls where just added for a stronger patho's effect, therefore creating a strong etho's effect, which causes people to never dare doubt that day!
xxxslayerxxx666 1 year ago
@xxxslayerxxx666 If you listened to what they were saying, he would always do that for all his phone calls, even to his family.. as his own mother tells you that during the interview. Ignoring evidence much or busy watching cut versions of a story or not doing any real research?
RelixKondor 1 year ago
@RelixKondor if you stopped condescending and learn to listen to all sides of the story maybe you would see that the media is fabricating what happened on 9/11, i shouldn't even have to elaborate, just look it up for yourself, secrecy is inevitable in government, those who are more powerful hold the deepest secrets....but be real dude, NOBODY goes "mom, this is mark bingham", especially to their own mom who knows their voice, i can only understand that robotic line being used in business calls!
xxxslayerxxx666 1 year ago
@xxxslayerxxx666 Be real dude? The last "real" conspiracies that happened were all found out due to 1 error. Look at enron, watergate, Iran-contra. A conspiracy of that scale that you are dreaming up is logically impossible to keep under wraps.
I've also checked all of your 'fabricating,' it seems to be coming from your group. Quoting witnesses out of context is great, ignoring the scientific method is fine, and apparently attacking me with a vague claim is okay too for your group.
RelixKondor 1 year ago
@RelixKondor first off, i'm not in a "group" second off, i'm talking about MEDIA FABRICATION, not some video of things taken out of context, i'm not an idiot, i'm aware of the whole sound bite approach when people want to make it seem like complete truth, yet disregard anything proving otherwise or information that would expose their propaganda, there's propaganda on both sides....i've watched national geographics take on 9/11 and i no longer believe in the controlled demolition explanation.
xxxslayerxxx666 1 year ago
@RelixKondor but that doesn't mean that the CIA didn't hire those terrorists themselves, after all, osama did work for the CIA.....but there is mainly more propaganda on the truthers side(think about it though, they are DESPERATE to prove something from nothing, that doesn't make everything false,WHAT IF it was the truth, and they are really angry because of the fact that there is no indubitable evidence that supports a conspiracy, bilderberg is the closest there is)
xxxslayerxxx666 1 year ago
@RelixKondor but many truthers claim that they have been infiltrated by sleeper agents, and only the wise can separate a real truther from a phony one....they believe that there is so much disinfo in the movement because it will make them look bad when the media portrays their messages(well sound bited messages lol) and this show is obviously fake, not the info, just the way they act as if it's their first time discovering it lol.
xxxslayerxxx666 1 year ago
@RelixKondor and what's this "error" that you speak of, i wasn't alive in those times, all i know vaguely about is iran-contra, where we traded weapons for hostages with the taliban(the main reason was because they didn't want to risk the soviets taking over that country cause then they would close in on us eventually) and now they claim that they just "turned bad" and became terrorists, bs.....look up al qaeda doesn't exist if you want to know what went down in those years.
xxxslayerxxx666 1 year ago
@RelixKondor ohh and since you also seem to be a man of science you will like "9/11 eyewitness hoboken" it's NOTHING like other 9/11 vids, this one doesn't make wild accusation, it's just pure math and science!
xxxslayerxxx666 1 year ago
@xxxslayerxxx666 Blah blah blah. Frist, Osama was never trained by or worked for the CIA.
Second, why would the CIA risk hiring these people when Osama had reasons? You clearly don't know the history of Osama. There's a lot of data that proves his intent, even a confession. Occam's razor mean anything to you?
Third, Al Qaeda has nothing to do w/ the Iran-contra affair. It started to fall apart due to a newspaper mentioning the US w/, oh my god, FACTS. See how large conspiracies fall apart?
RelixKondor 1 year ago
@RelixKondor you clearly think i'm an idiot, so i can't debate with you, and occam's razor is just common sense!
xxxslayerxxx666 1 year ago
@xxxslayerxxx666 You coward. You conspiracy theorists are all the same. Presented with fact, you either run, change the subject, or attack the fact giver. Occam's Razor isn't just "common sense" either.
And after all those posts, little doggy, you bark bark and no bite? It doesn't make sense for a person to drone on and on then suddenly lose after a single post.
This is why the media and the academic community ignore your kind.
RelixKondor 1 year ago 3
@RelixKondor dude, get off of your power trip, at least i have the humility to admit i am wrong....but when it comes to stuff like this NEITHER side KNOWS what the truth is, so just do yourself a favor and slit your throat with your stupid occam's razor you prentious piece of shit.....now THAT is me attacking you, i NEVER attacked you, YOU were the only one that did! asshole!
xxxslayerxxx666 1 year ago
@xxxslayerxxx666 Actually, we do know what the truth is for this citation. You refuse to believe it. Also, by attack, I mean ad homemin, which is a fallacy of logic where you attack the person rather than their argument. My argument was that you were wrong about Mark Bingham; but I had to stop 'condescending' and 'listen' to both sides... what does that have to do with Mark?
Then you deny Occam's Razor & go to direct curse word. Congrats, you are a conspiracy theorist :P
RelixKondor 1 year ago
@RelixKondor thank you!
xxxslayerxxx666 1 year ago
@RelixKondor Amen, brother. These conspiracy nuts will never be convinced. Just like those thousands of scientists who believe in creationism and who supposedly have "strong evidence" to support it. Their minds are already made up ahead of time. Fuck conspiracy theorists.
ilisbaani 6 months ago
@RelixKondor For give us for questioning everything. I guess we are bad americans because we dont roll over when we're told. "Listen to everyone, read everything; believe absolutely nothing unless you can prove it in your own right!" -William Cooper
NazcarFanatic24 5 months ago
@NazcarFanatic24 There's a distinct difference between questioning everything and ignoring details. But let me use what I had said 9 months ago to analyse your reply:
"For give us for questioning everything. I guess we are bad americans because we dont roll over when we're told." You are presenting your kind as wronged heros, when you aren't anything special. You are changing the subject to your kind, rather than the video. Why don't you try to debunk the claim made in the video first?
RelixKondor 5 months ago
@RelixKondor plus the osama confessions are faked, it's proven fact that look-alikes pulled a media hoax(because they know how we work) plus osama HAS worked for the CIA, you can go on wikileaks(dot)org and see that....i'm sure you've heard of that website thanks to the daily show and colbert report, but if not, it's a famous whistleblower website, and they are considered a terrorist group, for exposing the TRUTH! so that guy constantly has to move across states, and his IP is encrypted.
xxxslayerxxx666 1 year ago
@xxxslayerxxx666 But I must add a second post with another statement: You ad hominem fallacy. My post was originally about you being wrong about Mark Bingham, which, as you did cherry pick information, you believed. I am fully aware of a video by RKOwens4 that disproves that theory as well. Though, I don't know why he had to make a video when LOGIC can be used to listen to his mother talking.
You deliberately took information out of context then, when I called you out, you attacked me.
RelixKondor 1 year ago
@ OP: Hahaha wow, you really showed your cards here (being a dumbass).
The claim isn't 'cell phones don't work on jets', like you erroneously think, the claim is that, 'at that altitude in 2001 cell phones didn't work'.
It is SO funny that you try to debunk a claim and you don't even know what the claim is! LOL!!!
I could go on about the inaccuracies in the video but judging from the ratio of dislikes to likes its obvious people have seen through your shitty video and incorrect information!
322About2BreakUDown 1 year ago 8
@322About2BreakUDown , just how high do you think those towers are? Just what do you think those pointy things are on the top of those buildings. Those planes weren't flying at "altitude" they were flying low enough to hit the CIA building.
ConservativeCavalry 1 year ago
@ConservativeCavalry, Are you saying that the calls were made on their 'final descent' minutes before impact? The whole conspiracy is about calls being made after the initial hijacking at high altitudes, not when they have dipped down to impact their targets. Do some research.
And you fail once again to understand that technology has greatly improved in the MANY YEARS since the tragic events of 9/11 and the taping of this show.
You have proven nothing but your ignorance with this video.
322About2BreakUDown 1 year ago
@ConservativeCavalry they work now not in 2001.........
lnclincoln 11 months ago
@lnclincoln Theny why, in 2001, did the flight attendants tell you to not use your phones to make calls in flight, if you couldnt do it even if you wanted to?
Oooops
EdgemanLL2 10 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 because u can use them at low lvls.
lnclincoln 10 months ago
@lnclincoln They dont say 'dont use them at low levels."
They say "dont use them."
Fail!
EdgemanLL2 10 months ago
your claim that Jesse DEBUNKS his own conspiracy theory holds no value. You have the right to your opinion and we thank you for it. In closing I would like to say this video you produced is your opinion and should be stated as so.
GETZITOUT 1 year ago
This clown is a fake,phony asswipe who plays tough but is a PUSSY.He thinks he's James Bond or some CIA operative.Go back to the phony wrestling asshole.
Bronxloyalist 1 year ago
heads up: radio signals don't work by line-of-sight, they do, however, work a LOT better with a clear line of sight (no buildings or trees in the way)
in practice, cellphones 'don't work on airplanes' mainly because of regulations involving interference with flight control instruments. If this wasn't a problem, the reception would be awesome, but you would be handing off between cell towers like noone's business
ReddmanDGZ 1 year ago
WRONG!
Cell phones did not work on planes in September 2001... That's the claim... You debunkers can't even get that right! hahaha!
NanoThermite911 1 year ago
It's about the altitude, not about the plane itself. The signal won't reach up to the height a commercial airliner will be at. The plane Jesse Ventura was in was at a low altitude, therefore in the range to make a phone call. Therefore the theory is not 100% wrong and you need to research better before you make stupid videos.
RustyL121 1 year ago
this video is such a load of crap. first of all an airplane is not a bus or a train it's an airplane that flies at high altitudes. its not about the object its the altitude. and as bongochris says "the technic (technology) for cell phones to work in high altitude was made available in 2004 - FAIL" and the show was filmed a couple of years in the future. what a shill, conserativecavalry ur a fucken hypocrite!
TheSlavicHeart 1 year ago
I think you have made a gaff - you're apparent attempt to debunk falls short - the question was - did cell phones work that way in 2001? To force one to use the planes phones - did those planes have devices to block the signal? I think that was the original conspiracy theory. Truth is I sit on the fence, I would love to find the government guilty, but this doesn't make sense - if this is the best you can do - you should just give up unless you think we are stupid. It ain't gonna fly.
gukala 1 year ago
It was nice until he went off on Obama.
niteme 1 year ago
@niteme That isn't the best I can do, but claiming that planes "block" cell phones is absurd, unless you can provide evidence of it. People today, as Jessie proves, use call phones on no commercial flights.
The best evidence against an inside job for 911 is that there are no sounds attached to the fall of the towers. If you have ever heard a controlled demolition, there is no masking the noise.
ConservativeCavalry 1 year ago
@ConservativeCavalry WT-F you talking about. My comment was "It was nice until he went off on Obama." you talking about cell phones for. I said nothing related to it. And yes I understand cell phones work omnidirectional. As for the lack of sound for the bombs nuts claim, well they minor detail won't stop their nutty claim. I learn to just stop trying to convince people of the truth. If they want to think thousands of people in the US gov. did 911, there is nothing you can show or say.
niteme 1 year ago
@ConservativeCavalry Nano thermite does not make a loud sound.
RustyL121 1 year ago
@ConservativeCavalry well plenty of WTC workers say they heard and felt explosions in the basement before the first plane hit.....and firefighters say that when the first tower began to collapse he heard several explosions being set off perfectly timed with the collapse....also what about the fact that thermite was found in the ash?! i have yet to find a proper debunking!
xxxslayerxxx666 1 year ago
@xxxslayerxxx666 I haven't seen where any witness claims they heard any preceding explosions but the feeling of explosions must happen due to the different speeds of sound in air and steel, the time difference being less the closer a person is to the plane's impact.
lijebaley01 1 year ago
@ConservativeCavalry well i've heard a firefighter say that he heard explosions as the building was collapsing, and what about that infamous explosion in the basement seconds before the first plane hit?
xxxslayerxxx666 1 year ago
This Ventura fella has obviously been dispatched to make the 9/11 movement seem less credible
PantsThatDontFit 1 year ago
pretty good but its "line of Sight" not "line of Site"
Typos :)
kitbots 1 year ago
Also, a cell phone has line of sight to the moon when it is up, yet it doesn't have the power for that range.
Thing usually aren't as simple as most people claim. :P
jursamaj 1 year ago
billions in illegal transactions done prior to the attack.billions more in gold bullion missing from the basement.(I guess bin laden trucked that to the airport and flew off with it after he was done rigging up 3 hi rise buildings with professional demo shots)he also took the black boxes with him.U are so stupid.where are the peopl from Fl.93.after they landed in Cleveland(not crashed in Penn.) were they murdered?Brainwashed?Ask these Q. as well as how do U breath with your head so far up ur ass
donKEY4131 1 year ago
I love ignorant and stupid truthers.
1. NO billions missing.
2. no put orders
3. no missing bullion below the towers
do some basic research. I know that finishing highschool isn't on your agenda, but try.
put in your bullshit claims, and then put int he word DEBUNKED after it. Now read what comes up.
ur investagoogling skillz suck
adorabilly 1 year ago
I dont know who cooked up this video but your fckd.#1 modern corporate jets have cell and internet capabilities.The planes in 911 did not.#2Airlines installed this service in2004.#3watch the loosechange production(1hr19min. duration) which presents enough compelling documented evidence in the 1st 15 min. to prosecute the dirty bastards responsible for this heinous crime.#4Hit the road jackass nobody is buying your lame amateur video
donKEY4131 1 year ago
wait... which version of LC is the truth again?
Lc 2nd edition had over 100 factual ERRORS and LIES in it. The LC crew even admit that they made "mistakes."
Or do you meed the 3rd version? Which has over 30 lies in the first 30 minutes? You know... a lie a minute.
adorabilly 1 year ago
I'm with the CIA... I know who you are... just letting you know.
Caper1144 1 year ago
lol,even if its possible near ground to use a cell in a plane,it doesnt proof that the war was justyfied. (I definatly can admit that cell´s doesnt worked in my plane as i was on a vacation on the philippines)
Zaalogg 1 year ago
this video is a fail
ruper31 2 years ago
WOW you are fucken stupid. You dont know anything about the 911 truth. Jesse Ventura didnt do a good job on the 911 episode i suggest you watch the CDC episode on 911...
vdasdny 2 years ago
wow u made this conspiracy your bitch!!!! man u are going places
edgell911 2 years ago
cant belive u wasted your time making this pice of shit. fag
djrickyraw 2 years ago 10
your pure SCUM...get real u fool u know nothing
madJedi1 2 years ago 2
this from somoen whos login is Madjedi... snort. ROFLMAO.
young padowan, go back to school. Try to learn something
adorabilly 1 year ago
the technic for cell phones to work in high altitude was made available in 2004 - FAIL
bongochris 2 years ago 8
@bongochris I don't think the level of the twin towers counts as high altitude.
ConservativeCavalry 1 year ago
@ConservativeCavalry u idiot da plane was not at the level of twin tower when da calls were made
KOOLJDJ 1 year ago
@ConservativeCavalry those supposed calls were made when they flew over Pennsylvania, why on earth would someone call their parents right when they were about to hit the towers? plus who on earth calls their mom and says "mom! it's mark bingham"?!?!
xxxslayerxxx666 1 year ago
@bongochris plane was not at twin tower altitude when they made the call... u probably get ur every day news from fox gud luck
KOOLJDJ 1 year ago
@bongochris srrry ma first comment was for ConservativeCavalry not u .srrry
KOOLJDJ 1 year ago
@bongochris Not true. Cellphones have always worked at high altitudes. It was more of a hit and miss back then tho. FAIL (on your part)
beckasha83 1 year ago
Dude Show me a video of a plane hitting building 7 or STFU. Sure some nuts said things about no planes hitting the twin towers, or the cellphone subject, But thats not the general concensus. Building 7 & the military drills running that day or STFU. You're like a chicken defending the fox...
nirbmtrREEEPR 2 years ago
At any rate Iraq was in violation of the UN sanctions. Not that I agree that our military should have gone there, I'm just saying. There were some "WMD's" Supposedly present.
siradon2000 2 years ago
Some people may believe that Bush executed the attack on the WTC towers, what I think people most believe is that the government simply allowed it to happen. FYI supposedly Mustard gas filled artillery rounds were found in Iraq (technically WMD's) of course they were found almost immediately when our forces took over Iraq, yet UN officials didn't find them, hmm? Ventura also speaks about Obama, Gore's, etc. plan to take over with carbon legislation in his "Global Warming" episode
siradon2000 2 years ago
@siradon2000 actualy with due respect the united states sold some weapons to the Iraqis for the iran and iraq war. technically the WMD you're talking about was already present at the time. Mostly we are talking about new weapons like a nuclear missile ICBM's or a ship filled with nuclear devices ready to be detonated at a single button.
warlord2080 2 years ago
No, Bush believed Iraq was moving toward nuclear weapons. However if you want a definition of WMD's here it is. WMD) is a weapon that can kill large numbers of humans and/or cause great damage to man-made structures (e.g. buildings), natural structures (e.g. mountains), or the biosphere in general. The scope and application of the term has evolved and been disputed, often signifying more politically than technically. Coined in reference to aerial bombing with chemical explosives, cont
siradon2000 2 years ago
Continued
it has come to distinguish large-scale weaponry of other technologies, such as chemical, biological, radiological, or nuclear. This differentiates the term from more technnical ones such as chemical, biological, radiological, and nuclear weapons (CRBN).
siradon2000 2 years ago
This is FUNNY! 8 Black BOXES, 8 rolls Royce engines, 1000 seats and luggage Nothing FOUND???? WOW if that does not WAKE you up YOU ARE A zombie!
Oceanno69 2 years ago
I absolutely love these 911 Truthers. Thousands of people watch 2 jet fly into buildings and they will even deny jets flew into the buildings. If people won't even believe their eyes you can convince them of anything.
ConservativeCavalry 2 years ago
Once upon a time one person said no planes hit the towers and the new picked it up and NOW all 911 truthers are said to believe there were NO Planes??? YOUR WRONG we believe that two planes hit the twin towers! So when you spread your propaganda all over, think about what you are doing and how we all pay for through karma. If you are getting paid for this then you are making money off of others Deaths.
Oceanno69 2 years ago
I have no doubt that planes hit the WTC buildings. However I do question some of the footage that was released by the FBI in particular one video that had a rather broad view of the second plane hitting. As you watch the plane go by buildings the tail of the plane remains to the left of one of the buildings as the plane passes the opposite side and past 3 more buildings. Once it passes the other 3 buildings the tail does disappear. It happens in about 2 seconds worth of footage... curious.
siradon2000 2 years ago
RebelStangII 2 years ago
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Bcuz77 2 years ago
this appears to be another citizenfor911truth1 guy, Heres the BIG picture for you: Out of the 4 "planes" i use that word lightly, considering 2 planes were retired, and the other 2 werent scheduled to fly that day you could fit them all into one,falsh back to the one flight that landed in ohio.the calls could have been while they were loading all pass, into that flight then shot it down in penn, We are just going off there lie, they cant explain it,But lets not ever investigate,2mch2ask4
Mastirshake 2 years ago