Miracles of the Quran, BLACK HOLES. "Verily this is a Revelation from the Lord of the Worlds"

[rumplef]

wow... the ability of the mind to interpret things from a book written at a time when they didn't even know the gravitational pull of the Earth (9.8m/s2) was BLOWS MY MIND! I'll take the hundreds of thousands of scientific journals and results of discovery over a few thousand "verses" that could just as easily be interpreted to mean something else. Rubbish.

[salbal777]

So verily, I swear by the stars that recede (i.e.disappear during the day and appear during the night), And by the (cleaning) stars that move swiftly and hide themselves. Allah, the Almighty, says: [So verily, I swear by the stars that recede (i.e. disappear during the day and appear during the night), And by the (cleaning) stars that move swiftly and hide themselves.] {At-Takwir:15-16}

[ag15ui11na19ldo80]

this vid doesn't prove the point it tries to make...'I swear by the stars position- and that is a mighty oath if you only knew'...that doesn't say anything about black holes :S. I looked at my own Qur'an...[the Darkness] after 'the star piercing' was added for this vid, it doesn't say that, that's an interpretation. Please stick to the original Quranic text please.

[mischellewright69]

Im not saying ENOCH WAS THE ONLY BOOKS APACR BUT ITS VERY INTERESTING HOW MUCH APOCRYPHA IS IN THE QURAN MAKING IT STRONG. APO.. IS THE BOOKS MOSES WAS TO PUT BESIDE HIS BOOKS IN THE ARK OF OUR GOD

[mischellewright69]

And that says nothing dumbass please READ ENOCH YOU WILL SEE THE WHOLE OF THE HEAVENS INCLUDING THE EXACT DISCRIPTION AND NOT JUST BUT IN ONE OF THESE ARE THE 7 EVILS THAT WERE THROWN OUT OF HEAVEN AND WERE PUT THERE IN TOP THAT YOU KNOW THE QURAN IS ONLY TEN % of the bible and dont include all the prophets. But even half the quran is from the bible and that leaves only 5% and only one science its the ( honey bee) and says set up your homes in the trees and mountains oh HONEYBEE REFERING TO MEN

[mischellewright69]

7th son of ADAM SORRY HIS NAME WAS ENOCH

[mischellewright69]

We are ready new from THE 7th son of Enoch try again the first prophet told us this dam

[account5014]

You are right there are various interpretations that's why muslims have many sects two of them fight each other to death "shia and sunni" are almost enemies to each other.But for a lay man if he will look at KORAN"s various interpretations except one or two he will end up no where.But every word of KORAN is accepted by every sect yet interpretations are changed.

Every man has his own intellect to decide what is right and what is wrong.

[account5014]

I can go on and on and you will also come up with some argument the end result will be zero.If you are sinsare about knowing the truth you have to pray to the creator to guide you even it was not in the hands of PROPHETS to give evidence of GOD to anyone. IT is GOD himself who guide's the one who is looking for him,who is in sinsare search of GOD so pray to him to guide you

that's why PROPHETS came to guide such a person.

MAY ALLAH GUIDE YOU... AMEEN.

IT ONLY GOD who can help you.

Pray to him.

[account5014]

First of all CONGRAGULATIONS to you for rejecting all wrong models of GOD.

1)If some unidentified object with great ability to work and produce results is placed in front of you

what do you think who will be the first PERSON TO EXPLAIN YOU THE MECANISM OF THAT OBJECT?

whatever answer you have keep it in your mind.

CONTINUE...

[account5014]

2)How did the universe come into exsistence science claims intially it was a smoke

KURAN MENTIONED 1400 YEARS AGO THAT INTIALLY UNIVERSE WAS SMOKE in SURRA ANBIA

CHAP.21 VERSE 30 about big bang theory

3)In last century science prooved that moon has reflected light

KURAN REVEALED THAT 1400 YEARS AGO.

4)In last century science prooved that sun is revolving

KURAN REVEALED THAT 1400 YEARS AGO.

CONTINUE...

[account5014]

6)KURAN revealed about water cycle 1400 years ago.

7)KURAN revealed about boteny,ambriology 1400 years ago.

8)KURAN revealed that every living thing is made up of water.

THEORY OF PROBABILITY out of which one is wright

if two choices are givin to you out of which you have to make a decision to chose one choice

chances of being right is prob =1/2% correct ans.

if four choices then chances of being wright both the times 1/2*1/2=1/4=25% probab of correct ans.

CONTINUE....

[account5014]

if three times the choices are then probability of being right every time 1/2*1/2*1/2=1/8=2.5% chance of being right. dice has 6 sides at random it will be correct for any particular number of choice probability will be 1/6= 1/6(1 out of six) twice probability 1/6*1/6=1/36(1 choice will be correct out of 36 options) thrice 1/6*1/6*1/2=1/72(1 choice will be correct out of 72 options) shape of earth there can be 10 guesses about its shape wild guess 1/10 moon 1/2 shape of earth 1/10*1/2=1/20

[account5014]

living creature=1/1000

1/10*1/2*1/1000=1/20000=0.005% chance of making a correct decision

ON scientific science=KURAN has more then a 1000 verses

only for these theree verses=0.005% chance is there of making a correct decision

when you have about 1000 verses about scientific science chances of being accurate are 0 zero. its negligable

but KURAN is accurate about its every single claim which it make.

WHAT DO YOU THINK WHOSE WORD IS KURAN?

[bizarrobazaar]

@account5014

"ON scientific science=KURAN has more then a 1000 verses"

scientific science? lol. Please leave the Physics to the real scientists and just continue to collect muslim points by praying or whatever you think your imaginary friend (Allah) wants you to do -_-

[account5014]

Thanks for replaying.KORAN is a word of GOD revealed on Prophet MUHAMMAD peace be upon him 1400 years ago of which GOD himself took the responsibility to protect it from alteration or any change as BIBLE which was revealed on Prophet JESUS P.B.U.H and TORAH which was revealed on MOSES P.B.U.H both of these books were altered as GOD has blessed human beings of free will

but every word of KORAN is as it is when it was revealed though there are many sects in MUSLIMS Killing each other everyday.

[silvermillionaire]

I have all the numerical facts about the human suffering and backwardsness of Islamics. Maybe it is more civilized than many cultures of year 700 but Islam is still in 700. You have been conditioned into cronic self deception about Islam and I have compassion for you as you are a deceived human being. I have no bias to anything about human history, Islam doctrine is the worst oppressor, enslaver, genocidal offender of all. Ask Africa, India, Persia, Europe. Islam today is still primative lies.

[IslamicImpressions]

You are one very twisted person. It seems you have had your eyes closed for almost all your life. If only I had the time to reply properly.

Do this, search converts to islam, miracles of the quran and so forth and you will come to the truth yourself. Watch some of the videos in my profile. You have recieved the message.

[silvermillionaire]

Islam is the bloodiest, more savage, more enslaving, most lying, more oppressive political system/psudo-religion over everything else combined.

ISLAM IS A SICK BRONZE AGE-MEDIVAL SUPERSTITIOUS "DIVINE RIGHT OF KINGS" CANCER UPON HUMANITY. THERE IS TROUBLE WHEREVER

THERE IS ISLAM!

[IslamicImpressions]

Why are you getting so emotional for?

It seems like you dont even know the first thing about islam. Are you christian? Did you know Jesus spoke of prophet muhammed? Do you know Mary, the mother of jesus observed modesty jus like muslim women do?

[IslamicImpressions]

Christian women around the world have other reasons to wear a hat, mantilla, rebozo, gele, scarf, shawl, or veil. Some wear it out of respect to God; others, to obey the Popes request, or continue family traditions. But the most important reason of all is because Our Lord said: "If you love me keep my commandments" (John 14:15).

[IslamicImpressions]

Sacred Scripture presents several reasons for wearing the veil. St. Paul tells us in his first letter to the Corinthians (11: 1-16) that we must cover our heads because it is a Sacred Tradition commanded by our Lord Himself and entrusted to Paul: "The things I am writing to you are the Lords commandments" (1Cor. 14:37).

[IslamicImpressions]

Next? What other nonsense do you have to say about Islam?

[IslamicImpressions]

And dont forget to check my account out for some great videos, I know you want to see them, its only a click away!! :D

[IslamicImpressions]

Cancer upon humanity? Hmmm....did you come out with that after you read that charity(for those who can afford it) is compulsory in islam?

Trouble where islam is? is that why Islam has such harch punishments when it comes to murder and rape and other crimes(to deter criminals from such acts), is that why islam is a trouble? lol

Im debating with a clown here.

[MaxSafeheaD]

LOL, that;'s the most desperately tenuous link I've ever heard from any preacher! Ridiculous =P

[IslamicImpressions]

I know its hard to comprehend the truth. Dont worry I know its hard.

[MaxSafeheaD]

Nice try but I know the difference between, that which is difficult to understand, and gibberish.

[IslamicImpressions]

To be honest it seems you know nothing at all, just what your emotions tell you really. Put aside the hate and jealousy and you may see more.

[MaxSafeheaD]

"To be honest it seems you know nothing at all"

Nothing is ever certain, so I agree, I Know nothing ... I can only make a reasonable guess from what evidence I can gather.

Hate, jealousy, You are a little over presumptious for someone who has barely met me don't you think?!

[IslamicImpressions]

"Nothing is ever certain?" Are certainly sure about that?

I can see the signs. Your mind is clouded by the emotions you feel. My question to you is, why do you feel the way you, how come others arent like yourself? How come others are converting to islam yet you hold the views you do? Certainly someone is wrong.

[MaxSafeheaD]

""Nothing is ever certain?" Are certainly sure about that?"

As sure as I am human.

"why do you feel the way you"

Impartial observation.

"how come others aren't like yourself?"

Fear and insecurity about the unknown, a lack of philosophical/scientific education, faith, and politics.

[IslamicImpressions]

But you said nothing is ever certain?

[MaxSafeheaD]

Exactly.

[IslamicImpressions]

My friend, find out about islam from true muslims and all the fear you have about anything will be thrown out the window(except the fear of God and the day of Judgment).

You have a brain and a mind of your own, use it.

Heres a good film made over 30 yrs ago. Its called 'The Message'. Look it up on google video and enjoy.

[MaxSafeheaD]

To my mind Islam suffers the same flaw as all religion.

Have no reason to fear any god or gods, ghosts, magic or curses, I don't believe in souls or an afterlife, I only believe in what can be scientifically "proven" and my only concern is for what might be empirically tested.

From my perspective, Islam is more recently and successfully evolved than most, but it is still fundamentally based on faith.

If anyone can convince me why Islam is Gods word and not men's, I'd convert.

[IslamicImpressions]

Check out the verse on embryology in the quran over 1400 yrs ago. Surah 23 verse 13-14.

Theres a great video which im still watching on youtube, its called

Christianity or Islam, which one is provable?

Just watch the first 20 mins or so and then come back to me and tell me if you still think Islam is Gods word or a mans word.

[MaxSafeheaD]

I have read this verse before, it is a minuscule fragment describing nothing correctly except insemination.

1. There is no description of the egg so more than half of the ingredients are missing from the start.

2. There is no description of fertilization, so the process of reproduction is entirely missing.

3. The ONLY description of embryological development, is of bones forming before flesh, which is BACKWARDS!!! I'm sorry, this is perfect evidence why the Quran was definitely written by men.

[IslamicImpressions]

Are you expecting God to give a all out science lesson to mankind?

How was the quran written by man if the prophet was illiterate? How can it be written by a man if God refers to the prophet in the quran? Did you even watch the full video?

Btw could you tell me where I can find out what really happens as your telling me its backwards. Full reference please.

[MaxSafeheaD]

"Are you expecting God to give a all out science lesson to mankind?"

No I'm not, however if god sent me a message, I would expect it to be very different from other religious myths.

The story I heard was much of the Quran was dictated and written down by Muhammads friends. Are you suggesting Muhammad wrote the Quran himself guided by god?

"How can it be written by a man if God refers to the prophet in the quran?" I don't understand this question.

[IslamicImpressions]

God speaks of Muhammed in the Quran. If you ever read the quran you would see how it is. If you go to 7cgen, then click on quran and read the translation, you will see what I mean. The Quran was revealed to the prophet, and others wrote down what the prophet read to them from memory. None wrote anything from their own interpretation

Other religious myths? Can you mention some.

Did you watch that video I was referring to, it explains what I have said.

[MaxSafeheaD]

"Btw could you tell me where I can find out what really happens as your telling me its backwards. Full reference please."

YT won't let me link you to it but if you google "ossification" you should find a good description.

Just to be clear, there is no stage in which the embryo has anything like bones without flesh. Whatever the origin of the Quran, if it was divine, I would not expect it to be wrong.

[IslamicImpressions]

I will search that out and come back with a reference. The Quran is definately not wrong and there is no errors in it.

Here is something I found out recently. God spoke of what happen to Pharoah at the time of moses. God also mentions the preservation of his body in the sea, you can read this in Chapter 10, verse 90-92. However, his body was discover 1300yrs later.

[IslamicImpressions]

You dont believe in magic and curses? How come? Why do freemasons do the rituals they do in temples? You know what the are?

[MaxSafeheaD]

The existence of magic (or a personal god) is not dependent on men's emotional need for one.

[IslamicImpressions]

Magic, curses, devils, demons and all other sorts exist. This is what the freemasons and other devil worshippers do sacrifices to etc. That is what the New world order and Freemasonary is about. The illuminati and other stuff go along with it. Its linked with the anti christ. You should look into it, its a very big eye opener. Things like this always come up on media and entertainment products, You can hear Jay Z refer to the anti christ, even Kanye west. Plenty of videos here show it.

[MaxSafeheaD]

Just because some people believe in these things dose not make it true. Do you have any evidence to support any of this or are you just basing you conclusions on your religious beliefs and wild conspiracy theories?

Jay Zs lyrics are hardly a reliable basis for a worldview.

[account5014]

@MaxSafeheaD Make only 1 sorra just against of KURAN if you can which can be comprised of only 3 verses

In KURAN the biggest sorra is of 286 verses

just made 1 sorra of just 3 verses

a simple challenge..............

[MaxSafeheaD]

@account5014

Are you asking me to write Quran verses or create some poetry that sounds like it can from the quran? I can't see the point of either.

[eddie2042]

there is no such thing as magic, incantation spells, or god. supernatural does not exist. mohammed made shit up in that cave. haha :P

[account5014]

@MaxSafeheaD you said that If anyone can convince me why Islam is Gods word and not men's, I'd convert its very simple a person only get a uni degree when he work hard for it with sincerity for 4 years similarly you will start finding one thing after another if you search for it with hard work and sincerity you will not be disappointed as GOD promised if someone will come to me he will find me

you will have to search for it with sincerity and patience and you will be very happy....

[MaxSafeheaD]

@account5014

I'm not immediately concerned with happyness, I want the truth ... THEN I'll figure out how to be happy.

As god created everything then I am already totally immersed in god. Therefore I already intimately know god.

God is not personal.

God is not supernatural.

God writes at least as many books as there are on the earth.

God is everywhere and everything, or god dose not exist.

[account5014]

@MaxSafeheaD you have a reply

KURAN was not revealed to proof scientific laws.

[MaxSafeheaD]

@account5014

No but if if contained scientifically accurate information I personally, would find it credible ... ... ... actually maybe not. Even if it was 100% scientifically accurate it would only prove it had come from a higher intelligence. To prove it cam from a supernaturl origin god's message would have to do something that defied the laws of nature.

Instead it's just a book, what is more interesting to me is how muslims interpret it.

[account5014]

with accurate proof or answer for each of those different laws in nature then probability of success for you to make or to come up with accurate answer for every different law is simply "ZERO" . its negligible.its mathematical law which says that if anything have more then one or two possible assumptions about it then the probability of success for that thing will be zero i-e negligible. CONTINUE....

[account5014]

even a scientist and you are dealing with Religious,Political,Military,S­­ocial and also you are the reason of a revolution in the society in a time span of just 23 years. Can you imagine all this was done in just short time period of 23 years yet the book was not revealed to teach the scientific laws.It was revealed to let the Man and Women know that for what reason you are send on CONTINUE....

[MaxSafeheaD]

@account5014

I don't think so.

[account5014]

I excuse for replying twice

[MaxSafeheaD]

@account5014

no problem bro =)

[silvermillionaire]

That was so stupid to quote that koran crap, that passage basically said " i looked up and saw stars and darkness"

Ignorant liars non producers islamics.

[IslamicImpressions]

Are you sure it says that? Could you explain that me in abit more detail. Your saying that the star piercing the darkness is basically starts in the night sky?

[silvermillionaire]

I don't talk to lying islamics. I am just interested in warfare with Islam until the cult of mohammad exists no more. Save your lies for someone that still hope for peace.

[IslamicImpressions]

Im not a liar, please talk. Warfare is fine with me, but all your doing is waging war on a religion which only promotes good, not evil.

You dont hope for peace? I thought so, a follower of satan you are.

[silvermillionaire]

Good, liar. I know what Islam has DONE, not the lies you tell. Islam is a medeival cult of a reprobate mohammad. Islam has no industry to speak of that could compete with even canada. Pathetic Islamics would have no chance in conventional modern war. Only where your overbreeding slave women give islam advantage can it prevail. War with medeival cult islam is inevitable so I am just choosing the place and time. Allah is known as the great deceiver, you blind follower of satanic cult.

[IslamicImpressions]

Where do you get such nonsense from? If you knew about the real islam you wouldnt be speaking of this nonsense. Maybe you should ask youself why you hold the opinions you do and why so many people from the west are converting to islam.

Think before you answer.

[IslamicImpressions]

Where do you get such nonsense from? If you knew about the real islam you wouldnt be speaking of this nonsense. Maybe you should ask youself why you hold the opinions you do and why so many people from the west are converting to islam.

Think before you answer.

[MaxSafeheaD]

@silvermillionaire

I'm no religious sympathiser but your opinion of islam is utterly childish.

I KNOW you have never left the US. Let alone lived in an islamic culture so you really have no education on the subject ... or did you xpect Fox news to be reliable? LOOOOL

You poor fool.

[silvermillionaire]

Bullshit, you islamics are always working on your lies, never anything that helps humans live better. Full os shit koran full of lies and superstition. Allah is as dead as mohammad and does not hear your evil prayers.

[IslamicImpressions]

Evil prayers? Which evil prayers?

And I guess most of the non muslims are in prisons because they only tried to help humans live better?

[MaxSafeheaD]

@IslamicImpressions

I don't follow Islam nor will I ever, but you really should ignore this guy - he's clearly a brainwashed keyboard crusader, spouting hateful nonsense with all the intellectual prowess of a hippo.

[IslamicImpressions]

The last sermon of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH):

"All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; a white has no superiority over a black nor a black has any superiority over a white - except by piety and good actions."

[Chapter 3, Book 7: Sahih Bukhari]