Macintosh Classic

[dvamateur]

Nice computer. Hard to find one without yellowing. I have Classic with Mark of the Unicorn Performer version 1.22 as well as Classic II with Opcode Vision. These sequencer programs work flawlessly with my MIDI system (quite substantial MIDI system). My only gripe is that my Classic II is a little yellower than my Classic. My Classic is quite white still, but it has those two dimples on top of the monitor. Oh well, I bought them both second hand. I obviously couldn't afford these in 1991

[smartalex61]

@dvamateur Awesome! You should put a video up of them! And yeah...few people could afford these types of things when they first came out. And to think now we're buying laptops with 2gigs of RAM and 1.6 GHz Processors for under $300 :-P

[illcmentifulickme123]

Wow brings back me motors I used these in school when I was in kindergarten

[Vegabondsx]

Wow, I haven't seen Shufflepuck Cafe in a long time! Brings back childhood memories...

[sinistertim101]

Very outdated by 1990. My school bought them in 1991 when I was in 8th grade. Very slugish with a 8.0 mhz when a 486 was 33 mhz.. I did come home and started my DOS computer and was depressed realizing that this 8.0 mhz was leaps and bounds ahead software wise and sucked. I do remember typing and having to slow down for the curser to catch up as macwrite was slow :-)

[Vegabondsx]

@sinistertim101 My school put some in the classrooms while LC and LC II computers were in the labs. The Classics were a bit behind for their time, but they weren't that slow. They at least did a decent job as word processors. Perhaps your school had other software running in the background... these only supported up to 4 mb of RAM after all! :)

[TeamRocketReviews]

@smartalex61 I've seen an Internet browser for the SE, which is internally very similar to this. There's also an email client, though I can't provide a link.

[dronespace]

Love these old Macs <3

[marcink96]

myszka wymiata

[ZVONIMIR111]

that was a huge hdd then.

[lukeskywalker7878]

WOW was that a printer I heard or an airplane taking off?

[TheBipolarOctopus]

i need the card to boot it?

[smartalex61]

@TheBipolarOctopus Do you mean floppy disk? Not if it has Mac OS installed on the hard drive. All Classic's had hard drives. Earlier models only had floppy drives, so those did need a floppy to boot

[desiv1]

@smartalex61 The Classic also has OS (System 6.0.3) built into ROM you can boot from without a HD if ever needed.. Great feature...

[Vegabondsx]

@smartalex61 or you could plug in an external SCSI drive. That's what I ended up doing with my Macintosh Plus which doesn't have an internal hard drive.

[XboxHackingTutorials]

Can it run crysis? ;)

[smartalex61]

@XboxHackingTutorials Haha *everybody* asks that :-P

[angelpichu1]

@smartalex61 can it go on the internet? serious question, and not trying to sound dumb.

[smartalex61]

@angelpichu1 No dumb questions here! I've seen people do it with an external modem. Probably wouldn't be good for anything except checking E-Mail and sending small files between computers though (with the modern internet). The internet when this first came out was mostly text based, and this computer could surely handle that.

[mewrox99]

I have one of these lol 

[excriminal1]

i can remember when web pages took forever to load and how bored i was waiting, nostalgic just thinking about it.. just shows how far this has came along from that

[BuryMyGrave]

still has the cursor for mac today l0l.

[RSCuber]

@vinylgoneviral I plan on having mine connected, only because I finally found a keyboard for mine. Anyways, there are possibilities of AIM (I believe), IRC, and E-mail. Not at all practical, but it is fun.

[dvamateur]

Does the system 6.0.8 come with MacPain and MacWrite?

[smartalex61]

@dvamateur Yup, those are included with system 1-7

[dvamateur]

@smartalex61 Cool! How about the talking application and Macintosh Utilities? I ordered one on eBay recently, with OS 6.0.8, and not sure what else I should get.

[aruxandeicosmin]

wow!!! END OF THE WORLD SOUNDS....:D

[gbowne1]

I had a classic and classic II but preferred the SE, SE HD20, etc.

[pchapman905]

Oh man, that ImageWriter printer startup noise at 0:08 just brought back a whooole lot of memories. It's been a long time since I heard that last.

[Falcom180]

I Remember My Printer Was As Loud As The Internet Dial-up, And took Me 5 Days Just To Print My 12 Paged Biology Essay. Ahh Good Times.

[ddaavvaa774]

@vinylgoneviral No

[smartalex61]

@vinylgoneviral There are ways to get it connected to the web by using external dial up modems, but it wouldn't really be worth it since even loading the most basic websites would be struggle. However, with the right software, you may be able to check E-Mails or something with it.

[TheDemoniusX]

Dot matrix printer FTW

[TheDemoniusX]

my first was a tandy 1000 Tx I was 13 and it was 1995 lol. Well I wanted a PC and didn't care and up to this day I still love that machine...until the power supply blew *sigh*

[nickszalinski17]

SimCity 1.2 lol...

[ComradeMorshu]

I knew a guy who had one of those; my first computer was a 1993 LCIII.

Those were the days.

[Magostop]

I wouldn't throw this away to Easley, it's still a great little computer that can do most things a modern day computer can do but a lot slower and in black & white

[balois]

This was my first computer ever.

[smartalex61]

@balois Cool! Mine was a 1994 Compaq Presario CDS 520 that my parents bought at CompUSA for $2500.

[TheOnlyBadkid]

@smartalex61 haha 2500!!!

[smartalex61]

@kidwithcoolroom1 After I plugged the printer in I selected the printer type from the Control Menu, and it asked me to insert the corresponding System disk that contained the drivers.

[theanthony345]

is it heavy

[smartalex61]

@theanthony345 Nah, 16 pounds.

[smartalex61]

No, it's 16 lbs.

[smartalex61]

Not really, it's only 16 pounds.

[jrecoskie]

that thing is pretty usless if its 1-bit

[smartalex61]

@jrecoskie For color programs yes, but for office like programs it was sufficient.

[liphttam]

I still use mine, it has this one great racing game on it!

[78Boza]

you have so many computers

[tehreview]

how much was this when u bought it?

[smartalex61]

@tehreview I think I got the computer for about $30-$40 (on eBay), I know the printer was not included and I don't think the keyboard or mouse came with it either.

[FordCrownVictoriaV8]

Can you use an Inkjet printer that can plug into the SCSI port with this machine?

[ictdude1]

@FordCrownVictoriaV8 yes if you want to use an inkjet printer with this computer you need an apple style writer from ebay and it needs drivers :)

[FordCrownVictoriaV8]

Does the printer need drivers or software to work with the computer or will it just be recognized by the computer as an "ImageWriter II"? And will the printer work with System 6.0.8.?

[smartalex61]

@FordCrownVictoriaV8 You need to select that printer from the menu, and then it'll tell you what system disks to insert to install the drivers for that printer.

[FordCrownVictoriaV8]

@smartalex61: So, the Macintosh does need drivers to work with this printer? I thought Apple computers didn't need drivers to work with things.

[smartalex61]

@FordCrownVictoriaV8 Yes, drivers are needed. But most Macintoshes can autodetect the hardware.

[Ashanmaril]

Hahaha, that thing is legendary.

[HunterNational]

Where can i get a cheap macintosh classic?

[smartalex61]

@HunterNational The only really good place to get things like this is eBay or Craigslist.

[78Boza]

I LOWE OLD MACINTOSH COMPUTERS

[smartalex61]

@kidwithcoolroom1 Like that yeah (except I don't think it comes with the OS), however that program uses a different format (.pic I think).

[TheNewcomer1st]

This Mac is a legend,this kind of treasure are not in sale anymore.I shall call this one,Old glory

[smartalex61]

@TheNewcomer1st Lol, how true!

[TheNewcomer1st]

@smartalex61 Well,kind of not true but i say it,it is a legend to me.And one thing,i never use one of them before XD!

[smartalex61]

@kidwithcoolroom1 Only if you have a program that can read bitmaps.

[smartalex61]

@kidwithcoolroom1 Sort of. There are default patterns to choose from, or you can make your own pattern.

[guitarocker69607]

please help me! i ave this machine and i need a key board and mouse for it but i dont know what kind i need message me please!

[smartalex61]

The one that I have is an Apple Keyboard II, but I don't think that matters. Just make sure it's uses ADB (Apple Desktop Bus). It looks like a PS/2 port, but the pins are different. The mouse that I have is called an Apple Desktop Bus Mouse, and same for that, just make sure it is ADB.

[psivewri]

I am buying a Macintosh classic in great condition with original keyboard and mouse for $70!

[smartalex61]

Wow, that's great!

[psivewri]

thanks I hope I have fun with it!

[drewsahaydak]

I have a classic too! Great machine! do you know what that button on the top of the keyboard is for (i have the same one) ?

[smartalex61]

If the keyboard were connected to a later Mac that button would be to power the computer on, but since this model has a switch in the back that button doesn't do anything.

[drewsahaydak]

what kind of printer is that?

[smartalex61]

It's an ImageWriter II

[drewsahaydak]

Do you know where to find them?

[smartalex61]

In order from most likely to least likely:

eBay, Craigslist, consignment stores. I wouldn't pay more than $50 for one though. You'll probably have to get a ribbon for it too, which they probably still make.

[stargroove4]

@psivewri

Awesome, too bad you're going to lose $70 bucks on the deal!!

[psivewri]

@stargroove4 I just got a Macintosh classic 2 for $1 off ebay!

[cookie123456789012]

Macman? LOL AWESOME PUN!!!

[MacintoshPlus1MB]

my friend has one of these with system 6.0.7 :D

[SuperDave61164]

Oh wow.

[millymoo6000]

hummm..... funny this boots and loads faster then vista

[smartalex61]

I know, right? There is a video with Vista verses Mac 128k somewhere on YouTube (the Mac one speed-wise).

[taproot12]

vista is much more complex thats why ;)

[millymoo6000]

and because it sucks, but luckily i have a mac and recently upgraded the vista machine to win7

[taproot12]

somehow i just cant leave xp ......really......somehow

the vibe on win7 seems to be a memory sucking bitch ;)

[smartalex61]

Same here! I never wanted to upgrade to Vista because it was buggy and slow, but Windows 7 seems like it has had a rather good reception. Still, Windows XP would run faster on my 2003 HP that I use, and XP still does everything that I need anyway.

[abc13133]

@millymoo6000 Duh, retard.. It can do much less..

[djkoziiqn]

@millymoo6000 roflmaoooo !!!

[avalanche472]

Man your printer must be loud.

But, the Mac classic can play games? It would've made my day if i was in the 80's!

[perseverance8]

I own one of these macs it is in pristine condition and I love it.

[TeamNES1]

In my early days of having my own computer, I used to have both of these, except my Classic was a Classic II. We also had an SE/30, which I eventually put on a LocalTalk network with the Classic II. Fun times...

BTW: The only way you can make sense of a color ribbon for the ImageWriter II is if you use a program like MacDraw or MacPaint. It was actually pretty funny though, because I could design something on a 1-bit B&W monitor, and it would come out of the printer in color.

[Hugo2608]

I have an old macintosh classic, exactly the same model but it's the version without a harddrive. But it's pretty fun tough if you use your floppy disk space correctly. (Use apps like ramdisk and stuff like that.)

[loneknight97]

Hi. I've owned this computer for 1 year. Last year, I bought it on eBay for $10.00. It came with OS 7.0.1, and it was in 100% working condition. It also came with a keyboard and a mouse.

I bought the 1984 edition, and those are super rare.

A few days ago, I got it appraised by one of my buddies who works for this computer agency. He appraised it to be worth nearly $800-900.

I dont think I'm going to sell it anytime soon =P

[smartalex61]

Wow, that's neat! I'd like to see a video of it.

[loneknight97]

I might post a video as soon as my new camera comes in the mail. But for now, my FLIP Video Camcorder broke so I cant

[DEVIN362]

Hi my name is Devin.I have the same computer as you.I have a problem with it.every time I turn it on it shows me a white and black checker board.the screen never changes.Also the computer does not respond to the mouse or keyboard.I was wondering if you could help me.One other thing I haven't turned it on since the 90's or early 00's

[smartalex61]

Hmm, probably a dead hard drive. Do you hear the hard drive spinning? Does it make funny noises? Have you tried a mac os boot disk?

[bibinson]

This is a problem that ocurred on many Mac Classic and Mac Classic II's, where the capacitors on the board fail. You can replace all of them yourself, but it'll take a good hour or so and 20 dollars of electronics.

[TeamNES1]

Yeah, it's a shame that this was the fate the befell Classics and Classic II's. I remember having a friend crack open the case for me so that I could change the clock battery. His Torx driver could reach the screws in the handle, where mine couldn't.

[MacintoshPlus1MB]

@DEVIN362 put your motherboard in the dishwasher.

[sambetty123]

where did you git it?

[smartalex61]

eBay, it's the best place to get items like this. Just make sure you look at the shipping price before you buy, in some cases the shipping actually costs more than the product.

[WinVistaUser2]

Isn't that an Apple II Writer?

[smartalex61]

Yes, it's an Apple ImageWriter II

[WinVistaUser2]

Sweet, my grandpa had an Apple IIGS and that printer, and he got rid of it. I wanted the Apple IIGS so bad, but I don't have the money... :( Great video, by the way. :)

[RazzleSnazzle1]

how would you get programs if the mac uses low density disks but newer computers (if they use floppy disks) use high density

[smartalex61]

I put a piece of tape over the bottom right hand hole on the floppy disks (720 KB floppies don't have a hole there, that's how people and computers tell them apart) to simulate a 720 KB floppy disk. After I'd format them in the mac, and use my MacBook and USB floppy drive to transfer files. I purposely got a Macintosh Classic because of its 1.44 MB floppy drive though, formatting high density disks to low density can be a pain.

[Jcc3279]

I AM WATCHING THE VIDEO ON MY DELL AND WRITING THIS COMMENT ON MY OLD POWER MACINTOSH 6200..

that's right it does have ethernet on it but I use it for a back up computer incase one of my windows machines go down or crash.

I also own a style writer II and a apple image writer II i have the style writer II on the mac and my old image writer II on my gateway desktop I used the citoh 8510 dot matrix printer driver in windows xp.

[jameswwe2]

my school is so fucken poor i remember having to use these in 1998 when i was in preschool

[smedly500]

How do you make it talk? :)

[smartalex61]

It's just a simple app, you can download it from the bottom of this webpage:

vectronicsappleworld dot c o m slash macintosh slash speak dot h t m l

[smedly500]

Just bought one on eBay. YAYY!

[hugogdf]

WOW!...

[kargaroc386]

at 0:04 i love the boot beep.

Classic!

[kittendeathsquad]

just hearing that beep brings memorys back.

[longlivemacs]

Quick question... I have an SE with almost the exact same specs as your Classic (mine has 2.5 MB of RAM, not that that would make much difference; everything else the same), but I've kept it running System 6.0.8 because of its speed. What benefit(s) did you get from running System 7 as opposed to 6?

[smartalex61]

Well, like yours, mine originally came with System 6. The reason why I updated to System 7 was so that I could have multiple programs open at once, however this wasn't really worth it because with the amount of RAM this computer has, 1 program at a time is about all it can handle.

[longlivemacs]

Yeah, good point. I've read that these computers -- SE's and Classics -- can handle up to 4 MB of RAM, but (even if I did have the extra RAM, which I don't) I wouldn't want to open mine up and risk damaging something.

[kasm279]

What did it say?

[smartalex61]

It says, "Hello, I am Macintosh. It sure is great to get out of that bag." That's what the Macintosh 128k said in it's first introduction in 1984. Just search Macintosh Intro 1984 on YouTube, it's neat to watch.

[smartalex61]

Most likely

[smartalex61]

It's just a simple app, you can download it from the bottom of this webpage: vectronicsappleworld dot c o m slash macintosh slash speak dot h t m l

[spikydemon86]

Wow, shufflepuck...brings back so many memories. Anyone know the name of the game where you wake up in a bathroom...i think... and you don't know who you are? It's been driving me mental, not knowing. BTW, am I the only one who feels REALLY old when I look at the old computers and game systems we used to have back in the day?

[smartalex61]

Ooo, I know what game you're thinking of. I just can't remember the name, I'll let you know when I do.

[Maximusmadrica]

Man, this is crazy but I remember these old PC's when I was a kid during Elementary.

[smartalex61]

Yeah, my elementary school used to have all Mac's and some Apple II's. Now everything is Dell Dell Dell. They're cheap and powerful, but last only a few years.

[smartalex61]

P.S. Thank you for subscribing!

[reinoreiness]

Where you got games for this old mac?

[smartalex61]

I got most of them from a website called Macintosh Garden.

[cool11boy789]

EBAY

[mechuccio]

Hey man, great stuff!

My uncle gave me two of these machines, complete with a carrying bag and all. But somehow he managed to delete all info on the hard drive because there was some (obsolete) data on it from his company. They both boot up but don't give me more than a mouse-arrow and a pictogram of a disk with a questionmark :(. Oh well, I'll have to browse the net to find some software to get it functioning like yours.

Lovely little machines they are :D

[RABBIDGamfan]

If you hold down command-option-X-O as you turn on the machine, you can get a classic to boot system 6.0.3 from ROM. No applications are included, though.

[taboreinis]

i like sound when printer turns on

[smartalex61]

Yeah, some find dot matrix printers a bit annoying, but it never bothers me. You should check out Younnat's "Dot Matrix Printer Etude".

[raaraa33]

thanked u smartalex61 . good work like any old or ancient artefacts

u have Arabic Macintosh

[smartalex61]

Hey thanks! And just out of curiosity, what makes it Arabic?

[SuperMetalSonic]

Macman :D

[coxvidioandmore]

i got one! 37.01 bucks with 30 bucks shipping... cant wait to get it!

[smartalex61]

Hey, great find! I'm sure you'll enjoy it, using this makes me wonder how PC's got so popular before they had Windows.

[CoolCalmJames]

lol everything was motorola back then hahah

[smartalex61]

Yeah I know, right? Like the worlds first portable cell phone. The Motorola DynaTAC 8000X.

[19Bigfoot85]

I want one!!!

[smartalex61]

Hey, you can always try eBay. I think I got the computer itself for about $40.

[sammyboi93123abc]

wow the printer is so loud. i was a great achivement of it's time.

[gothikgamer]

love the mac, and the printer is the fastest that i have seen in my live, loool

=)

[vwestlife]

"Wild Eep" is best!

The Classic is actually only 8 MHz, not 25.

[smartalex61]

Ah, you're right, it is 8 MHz. (I personally like the quack.)

[ElijahPost]

I have just acquired one of these! A real treasure!

[peekeiswe]

Dude, you got to buy a new camera or hold it more still. The noise is killing me. Cool video though!

[Jcc3278]

I have that same printer rigged to my PC

[smartalex61]

Woe, how in the world did you do that?