lol , lance , after that big spiel on the value and integrity constitution , HE JUST LOVES THE CONSTITUTION ...but he has no REAL interest in actually DEFENDING IT from a very POSSIBLE and indeed LIKELY threat..he clearly knows NOTHING about the eligibility issue and moreover ,,,he dosnt WANT TO KNOW anything about it .god how i loathe these self serving ,spineless pretenders ...he should wash his mouth out with soap after making that ridiculously absurd speech .
Another congressional traitor. Maybe the questioner should have worked up to the eligibilty issue by asking about the SS fraud, (phony CT ss#) or forgery (the long form BC). These DC dicks need to go on record so, if need be, they can be charged with perjury instead of just lying their asses off.
Someone's saying "You're talking about fraud...." at the end of the recording. it'd be interesting to see the rest ... should've kept the tape rolling.
I don't expect any public servant to "love" the Constitution.
I expect them to UPHOLD AND ABIDE BY IT as it's a document outlining Supreme Law of the United States of America. I am quite comfortable that my fellow Americans feel the same way.
Being told by a politician that he "loves" the Constitution but then provide excuses for not honoring it? Sheesh, I hadn't had my intelligence insulted that badly since high school.
This man(?) is lying, how can this guy love the constitution when he clearly has never read it, he is an embarrassment to this nation. And how appropriate that this man bringing up this issue is attacked verbally, being called dough boy, name calling is all these criminals and their supporter's have left...
@stupidtex There is not a single current judge, congressman, constitutional scholar or law professor who agrees with your interpretation of the natural born citizen clause. There have been former Presidents, VPs, major party nominees and candidates who had at least one non-citizen parent, and none ever had their eligibility seriously questioned on that basis.
You've failed to do your own homework on Minor v. Happersett and seem to be parroting the birther lie of the moment. How many birther lies have been spewed,over the last few years. "He was born in Kenya". "The COLB isn't a real birth certificate". "The COLB is a forgery". "The long form is a forgery". "He was adopted by Soetoro". "He went to college as a foreign student". "A US citizen couldn't travel to Pakistan in 1981". "He's a muslim".
I don't believe this Congressman loves the Constitution. In fact, I think he is an embarrassment to his party and his office and I sincerely hope he gets routed by a primary challenger who actually reads, knows, and adheres to the Constitution.
Pardon me for asking, but if you discovered the de facto president was usurping office, then would that constitute a priority, requiring you to place all other matters aside?
Isn't it the compelling urgency to defend the US Constitution by protecting the Executive Branch from being unconstitutionally occupied?
Does your ignorance of this crisis tell more about your failure to proceed in public office?
@borderraven Good post, Borderraven. As you can see, though, just like during the Clinto Impeachment, the RINOS want to "get back tot he People's business" as though following the law were some kind of distraction. They also pass the buck to the courts so they can avoid responsibility.
@borderraven - If there was a serious suspicion that President was ineligible for office, the proper legal procedure would be for the House of Representatives to vote on articles of impeachment. President Obama is eligible for office. Folks who claim otherwise are either seriously misinformed or intentionally lying( eg. Apuzzo, et al). President Obama is a natural born citizen of the United States, over age 35, and was resident of the United States for more than 14 years when he was elected.
@borderraven - You've shown your unwillingness to "buy" into reality. Natural born citizens may have dual citizenship, at birth, as a consequence of having a non-citizen parent. The citizenship status of President Obama's father was widely known, prior to the 2008 election. Birthers have embraced this 2 citizen parent theory after most Americans rejected their lies that the President was born in Kenya. You're entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.
@USADad, Accepting Obama's 27Apr11, LFBC, it proves he was born in HI to BHO Sr, a UKC on a non-immigrant student visa. On 4Aug61 HI was territory under reciprocal British treaty signed by Pes Truman on 6Jun51. As such the 1948 British Nationality Act conferred UK citizenship by descent without registration. The circumstances of birth define the birth forever. The 14th Amendment defines US citizen, not nbc. So yes Obama was born a dual-citizen. US on mother's side, UK on dad's side. cont
@borderraven, don't you get it? Two separate legally binding paths to separate nationalities in the same person, does not equate to a natural born citizen, if there is to exist in the USA, US Citizens and Natural Born Citizens. If Congress equated US Citizens and NBC as the same, then don't you think 8USC1405 would have declared all persons born in Hawaii to be NBC?
@borderraven - So what? President Obama was born in Hawaii and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States at the time of his birth. His mother was an American citizen. His father was a resident alien. The father wasn't a diplomat, foreign head of state, or officer in an occupying military force. President Obama was "natural born", under current law and by the definition which existed when the US Constitution was ratified.
@USADad, No. His father was a UK Citizen, domiciled (permanent citizen) of the Kenya British Protectorate, in US on a "non-immigrant student visa" See 08USC1101(a)(15)(F).
The immigration status of Obama Sr was in the same 08USC1101(a)(15) "non-immigrant" category as an ambassador, public minister, or career diplomatic or consular officer." See 08USC1101(a)(15)(A).
No, Obama is not NBC as he was born dual-citizen and cannot revert or change to NBC.
@borderraven - If you discovered that there was a coordinated attack, by fringe political opponents, to attack President Obama by spewing the lie that he isn't eligible to hold office, how should you respond? Specifically, what should one do when an individual stooge (or group of stooges) uses one of your public appearances to promote such a false claim? Educate them? Ignore them? Ridicule them? Humor them by playing along as if the lie has some validity?
@68Truthseeker unfortunately, it got worse - after my friend yelled out "This is Fraud" Lance called on someone else so he could avoid the pressure - a true RINO.
@Haggz51 It's amazing how politicians who have taken the oath to the Constitution continue to avoid the issues that most people want them to address! they don't care what you have to say, they have an agenda, and you and I aren't part of the collision. So we don't count. You have to have your wallet out before they will even start to listen.
lol , lance , after that big spiel on the value and integrity constitution , HE JUST LOVES THE CONSTITUTION ...but he has no REAL interest in actually DEFENDING IT from a very POSSIBLE and indeed LIKELY threat..he clearly knows NOTHING about the eligibility issue and moreover ,,,he dosnt WANT TO KNOW anything about it .god how i loathe these self serving ,spineless pretenders ...he should wash his mouth out with soap after making that ridiculously absurd speech .
woodenmajor 13 hours ago
Another congressional traitor. Maybe the questioner should have worked up to the eligibilty issue by asking about the SS fraud, (phony CT ss#) or forgery (the long form BC). These DC dicks need to go on record so, if need be, they can be charged with perjury instead of just lying their asses off.
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borderraven 7 months ago
Someone's saying "You're talking about fraud...." at the end of the recording. it'd be interesting to see the rest ... should've kept the tape rolling.
rjtengkano 7 months ago
I hope they elect some one else.
doncarlsanders 7 months ago
"Love" the Constitution?
I don't expect any public servant to "love" the Constitution.
I expect them to UPHOLD AND ABIDE BY IT as it's a document outlining Supreme Law of the United States of America. I am quite comfortable that my fellow Americans feel the same way.
Being told by a politician that he "loves" the Constitution but then provide excuses for not honoring it? Sheesh, I hadn't had my intelligence insulted that badly since high school.
Watcher3223 7 months ago
This man(?) is lying, how can this guy love the constitution when he clearly has never read it, he is an embarrassment to this nation. And how appropriate that this man bringing up this issue is attacked verbally, being called dough boy, name calling is all these criminals and their supporter's have left...
ptm5150 7 months ago
Minor v Happersett defines natural born citizen as born in America too citizen PARENTS. Do your homework congressmen.
stupidtex 7 months ago
@stupidtex There is not a single current judge, congressman, constitutional scholar or law professor who agrees with your interpretation of the natural born citizen clause. There have been former Presidents, VPs, major party nominees and candidates who had at least one non-citizen parent, and none ever had their eligibility seriously questioned on that basis.
qwertyman129 7 months ago
You've failed to do your own homework on Minor v. Happersett and seem to be parroting the birther lie of the moment. How many birther lies have been spewed,over the last few years. "He was born in Kenya". "The COLB isn't a real birth certificate". "The COLB is a forgery". "The long form is a forgery". "He was adopted by Soetoro". "He went to college as a foreign student". "A US citizen couldn't travel to Pakistan in 1981". "He's a muslim".
USADad 2 weeks ago
I don't believe this Congressman loves the Constitution. In fact, I think he is an embarrassment to his party and his office and I sincerely hope he gets routed by a primary challenger who actually reads, knows, and adheres to the Constitution.
jwbaumann 7 months ago
Sounds like this guy will get voted out of office...
Fosterpimp 7 months ago
Rephrase the question:
Pardon me for asking, but if you discovered the de facto president was usurping office, then would that constitute a priority, requiring you to place all other matters aside?
Isn't it the compelling urgency to defend the US Constitution by protecting the Executive Branch from being unconstitutionally occupied?
Does your ignorance of this crisis tell more about your failure to proceed in public office?
borderraven 7 months ago 3
@borderraven Good post, Borderraven. As you can see, though, just like during the Clinto Impeachment, the RINOS want to "get back tot he People's business" as though following the law were some kind of distraction. They also pass the buck to the courts so they can avoid responsibility.
Dan
Haggz51 7 months ago
@borderraven absolutely. excellent comment.
amcent2 7 months ago
@borderraven - If there was a serious suspicion that President was ineligible for office, the proper legal procedure would be for the House of Representatives to vote on articles of impeachment. President Obama is eligible for office. Folks who claim otherwise are either seriously misinformed or intentionally lying( eg. Apuzzo, et al). President Obama is a natural born citizen of the United States, over age 35, and was resident of the United States for more than 14 years when he was elected.
USADad 2 weeks ago
@USADad, I don't buy it. Obama Sr was a British citizen, domiciled in Kenya, so he conferred UK citizenship on Obama at birth in Hawaii,
See COTUS Art6,British Treaty 1951, British Nationality Act 1948 PartII, 5(1)(a).
Had Obama Sr, at least been a Permanent Legal Resident, domiciled in the USA, then I would stretch Obama's eligibility, but I cannot.
borderraven 2 weeks ago
@borderraven - You've shown your unwillingness to "buy" into reality. Natural born citizens may have dual citizenship, at birth, as a consequence of having a non-citizen parent. The citizenship status of President Obama's father was widely known, prior to the 2008 election. Birthers have embraced this 2 citizen parent theory after most Americans rejected their lies that the President was born in Kenya. You're entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.
USADad 2 weeks ago
@USADad, Accepting Obama's 27Apr11, LFBC, it proves he was born in HI to BHO Sr, a UKC on a non-immigrant student visa. On 4Aug61 HI was territory under reciprocal British treaty signed by Pes Truman on 6Jun51. As such the 1948 British Nationality Act conferred UK citizenship by descent without registration. The circumstances of birth define the birth forever. The 14th Amendment defines US citizen, not nbc. So yes Obama was born a dual-citizen. US on mother's side, UK on dad's side. cont
borderraven 2 weeks ago
@borderraven, don't you get it? Two separate legally binding paths to separate nationalities in the same person, does not equate to a natural born citizen, if there is to exist in the USA, US Citizens and Natural Born Citizens. If Congress equated US Citizens and NBC as the same, then don't you think 8USC1405 would have declared all persons born in Hawaii to be NBC?
borderraven 2 weeks ago
@borderraven - So what? President Obama was born in Hawaii and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States at the time of his birth. His mother was an American citizen. His father was a resident alien. The father wasn't a diplomat, foreign head of state, or officer in an occupying military force. President Obama was "natural born", under current law and by the definition which existed when the US Constitution was ratified.
USADad 1 week ago
@USADad, No. His father was a UK Citizen, domiciled (permanent citizen) of the Kenya British Protectorate, in US on a "non-immigrant student visa" See 08USC1101(a)(15)(F).
The immigration status of Obama Sr was in the same 08USC1101(a)(15) "non-immigrant" category as an ambassador, public minister, or career diplomatic or consular officer." See 08USC1101(a)(15)(A).
No, Obama is not NBC as he was born dual-citizen and cannot revert or change to NBC.
borderraven 1 week ago
@borderraven - If you discovered that there was a coordinated attack, by fringe political opponents, to attack President Obama by spewing the lie that he isn't eligible to hold office, how should you respond? Specifically, what should one do when an individual stooge (or group of stooges) uses one of your public appearances to promote such a false claim? Educate them? Ignore them? Ridicule them? Humor them by playing along as if the lie has some validity?
USADad 1 week ago
@USADad, But it is the truth Obama fails eligibility.
"A Natural Born Citizen is Native Born to Two US Citizens who were Born or Naturalized in the Jurisdiction of the United States."
My definition. Like it?
What percentage of US Presidents between #14 and #44 fit my definition?
borderraven 1 week ago
Was Obama born subject to the COTUS? YES
Does COTUS Article 6 bind treaties? YES
Was the British Treaty of 1952 signed by President Truman in 1951? YES
Was his father a British citizen with visa, in the US under treaty? YES
Did the British Nationality Act of 1948 apply to Obama's birth? YES
Did the Kenya Independence and 1963 Constitution affect Obama? YES
Would BNA or Kenya Constitution apply if he was born in US to 2 US citizens? NO
Is Obama a natural born citizen? NO
borderraven 7 months ago
He knows he's violated his oath to defend the Constitution against all enemies as do the rest of the scoundrels in Congress!
StompingRabbits 7 months ago
@StompingRabbits True - they're all guilty.
Haggz51 7 months ago
Why did you cut the video off there? It sounded like it was going to get good.
68Truthseeker 7 months ago
@68Truthseeker unfortunately, it got worse - after my friend yelled out "This is Fraud" Lance called on someone else so he could avoid the pressure - a true RINO.
Thanks for watching.
Dan
Haggz51 7 months ago
@Haggz51 It's amazing how politicians who have taken the oath to the Constitution continue to avoid the issues that most people want them to address! they don't care what you have to say, they have an agenda, and you and I aren't part of the collision. So we don't count. You have to have your wallet out before they will even start to listen.
Fosterpimp 7 months ago
@68Truthseeker, ditto
borderraven 7 months ago
Yeah, he pretty much just attempted to evade the entire issue = RED FLAG.
aivilik 7 months ago 2
@aivilik Yes - red as in Commie red.
thanks for watching
Dan
Haggz51 7 months ago