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  • this is awesome!!!

    

  • So I can charge a 12 volt battery with some coils, a magnet and a capacitor... and a 12 volt power supply?

    Wow?!?!

  • would it work if you added a iron core to the coil ? or would it just turn the coil into a electromagnet and attract the permanent magnet to it? if this is so would it work with a ring style neo magnet with something acting as a axle ? IE would the ring magnet spin like the ball magnet if you added an axle and an iron core

  • Whats the point of the LED?

  • @usedbandage9 To show the induction going on in the secondary coil.

  • +Very interesting, did you try on a magnetic base to allow for lower friction and what's your electrical gain?

  • Liked indeed!

  • The potentiometer is connected to a 24 gauge outside coil wire. My 1N4007 diode is connected to the positive on the secondary battery. Then the outside 20 gauge wire runs to negative on the secondary battery and on the positive on the primary battery.

  • @333kgb Does anybody have the complet circuit? I spent days and days looking on youtube for this Bedini circuit and I have tryed couple of his experiments bu I can't figure out why my wheel w the 6 magnets will not spin even if I have conected it to a car battery and a starter coil?

  • @333kgb Does anybody have the complet circuit? I spent days and days looking on youtube for this Bedini circuit and I have tryed couple of his experiments bu I can't figure out why my wheel w the 6 magnets will not spin even if I have conected it to a car battery and a starter coil?

  • 4:12, Sarcasm at its finest :D

  • SO WHAT IS THE POINT? IT IS NEAT.. BUT ARE YOU GETTING OVER UNITY?

  • ferrofluid get started bro

  • lets say the sphere is underwater spinning with the coil under water . the induction coil would be suspended over the water as this is all spinning underwater. whould this motor still work???

  • This is an amazing principle, surely the future of electricity generation? self perpetuating, clean energy.

  • It's happening because of a battery, though.

  • True but its only drawing a tiny current once its up to speed and producing far more! thus, if you could scale this up many times, start it spinning then use a very small amount of the generated power to keep it going? I wonder

  • @mikesndbs

    If only, Then we would use a few 4ft magnet balls ;)  Nice project. Think I'll try one my self sometime, Buying a few 1" diameters. I seen 2" on ebay also! geehz! One seller rates them all and said a 1" ball has a pulling power of 28 pounds...

  • This is amazing! are any ready made parts available?

  • may i ask in what direction was the ball rotating (i.e y-axis/ x-axis) according to the view from the video... thx

  • EtshShaker---The ball spins with the poles facing the drive coil.

  • Lidmotor-- so that would be rotating left to right?

    one more question, is there any other way to get the ball to initially spin other than fit the coil on it in the beginning? i mean if i have the ball and coil stationary somewhere, would i be able to start its spin? thanks

  • @EtshShaker ---The ball can be started either direction but will not self- start. You can spin it up outside of the coil but it is a little harder.

  • Lidmotor--- I need your help with something... what if my driving coil is held center towards the center of the ball.. how can i make that sphere spin (even with initial push) in a vertical plane... let me know please if you need me to clarify what i said.. thanks

  • @EtshShaker --- That is a problem. You have to spin the ball with your fingers in an axis that points the N/S at the coil. I would use a compass to find the poles on the sphere and mark them with a felt tip pen. Maybe point the N or S at the coil and use you index finger to rotate the ball??? I don't know. It's a problem. It won't self -start. That is one of the problems with the standard Bedini SSG.

  • @Lidmotor -- what if i had 2 driving coils on each of the axes? thats a total of 4 driving coils around the sphere? would that allow me to move the sphere in a vertical plane and also change its direction of rotation according to the power of each driving coil??

  • @EtshShaker ---I don't know.

  • the smaller balls are more dangerous i think the large one is ok to deal with

  • Hello there!

    I was able to replicate what you did but as my Bedini circuit wasn't quite standard, it behaved in a different way.

    So..bifilar coil 600 turns, 100k pot set to 0 (didn't have the 1k one). My power source was a 18VDC transformer.

    For my surprise, as soon as I turned it on, it started self-oscillating with no need for the ball at all. It was drawing 640mA and pushed a broken 12V batt from 6V to 8.5V in 1h and the battery was able to hold it... though the readings was 11.33V

    Cheers

  • I can not believe my eyes!! What, they just work out beautifully like that, Gold!

  • I had a few questions. How could I find out how to build a "standard bedini ssg circuit"? AND Is the Neo magnet flipping end over end? OR is it spinning with the North pointed up and the South pointed down, or vice versa?? How far could you pull the copper wire coil away from the Neo magnet and have it still spin? I am assuming that the voltage always stays at 12 volts but the amperage is adjusted to increase the speed. Is that correct? Thanks for your help as I would love to try this.

  • cougarrcsnva----The circuit is everywhere and has been around for a long time. Just Google Bedini SSG or enter that above. There are several good tutorials here on Youtube on how to build it. The sphere magnet on this version spins with the N&S poles facing 90 degrees to the drive coil and is not typical. This is a pulse motor. Energy consumption varries with the speed of the rotor (pulses per second). Loading down the rotor decreases the energy flow by slowing down the pulse rate.

  • Thanks for helping. I found how to build a bedini circuit. Do I need this particular circuit? Can I use other pulse motors and what other easy types are out there? I just want to spin a Neo magnet like this. You mentioned that the N&S poles face 90 degrees and it is not typical. What is typical then? Can I spin a Neo magnet so that the North stays up and the South stays down, or South stays down and North stays up, OR is this impossible? Is N&S always going to "tumble" end over end?

  • I have built a few of these sphere magnet bedinis. I have been considering making a kind of kit for guys who might not have access to a shop or just want to get a head start on their project. Would anything like that interest you?

  • scooterscottii, or Lidmotor, I'd like some advice on figuring out alternative transistor/resistor combos - I am having trouble finishing my bedini circuit because I don't have the transistors and apparently I suck at figuring out which resistors to use with the trans' I do have.

  • the bedini ssg circuit calls for a in2055 If I remember. It is very common. I got mine a radio shack. if you can't find one I can send you a couple ... they only cost about $1.50 @

  • How were you able to design it so that it spun 90 degrees to the drive coil? Is there a special process? Does this mean it can spin round and round on a non dished flat surface? What determines which direction it will spin? Does it just spin in any direction it feels like? Constantly changing? Also, does this produce any noticeable torque or can it not bear any significant load? This stuff has to have some sort of practical use in the future. Thanks for all of the information you provided me.

  • I'm sure you have heard of the rodin coil. I am fascinated by rodin and his coil, I'm wondering what might happen with the same experiment and the rodin coil? I havnt had time yet to build one ... but soon I hope. I had an interesting effect one time only where the neo sphere was trapped inside the coil after i picked it up and kept running! That made me think. Also my system seems to draw over 300ma. It sure seems like a lot. How much does yours draw? THANKS

  • I have built 3 rodin coils, and tested coil properties on AC and DC, 3V to 24V. Very cool actions in and around the coils. Then I found Bedini... and Lidmotor, Imhotep, Sceptic33, theDaftman and Pwordchernoir all experimenting in really cool ways. I am building my bedini circuit now, and will post Rodin Coil + Bedini results within a couple weeks.

  • so glad to know you are experimenting with the Rodin coil! One baffeling mystery is that Marko has said that the coil is to be made from UNinsulated wire!!! Go figure ... He says it distributes the energy/magnetic field perfectly symetrically but I cant understand why it wouldnt short out one winding to the next? It may have to do with the unknown properties of electromagnetism Bedini and Tom Bearden talk about. Its very fascinating times we live in brother!

  • OK... I am wondering if you used a plastic toroid and which color if you did. It looks like the blue one is the only one big enough to fit the 1" neo sphere in it after all the coiling? Have you tried hooking the rodin coil up as a bedini coil with the power and trigger coils?

  • scooterscottii - I instantly burned out a couple LEDs on the backspike with the blue&white coil, and am itching to put it into a bedini but can't finish my circuit. My toroid wasn't from the plastic toy, it was a foam one from Michael's Craft Store. And yes, the insulation in the lower gauge wire really gets in the way. I'm considering removing it when doing my next coil... bigger...

  • great vid and info. I stumbled across the same idea playing around a few months back. I had a bedini circuit and coil from my motor I built and had a neo sphere I was playing around with. The sphere just happened to fit inside the coil and I was blown away when the neo took off! I was awake at night for days thinking of all the ways In could configure the coil and sphere. Then I saw your vid and was very surprised that we were on the same frequency!

  • except when you drop it on your circuit test board lol

  • Thank you for showing this easy to follow vid!

  • Quite a relief! So THAT is how you get it started!

  • Two questions come to mind. One: Is there a greater output to input ratio between the stronger neo and the old hematite? Second: Would a second neo sphere run on the other side of the pulse

    coil for the same current?

  • zebok3--- I have not had the neo long enough to do any comparrisons and the configuration of my setup keeps changing. I have seen Bedini's running with a rotor on the other side of the coil. That might work here but my experiecne is that it is very hard to get them in sync.

  • Lidmotor what is the n rating of your 1 inch magnet? what did it cost on ebay ? I see there are some 2 inch magnets listed, would they be to big ? They say these are brittle? Could the G forces at high speed be hazardous? So many ?? so little time.........10 stars!!!!!!!!!

  • december105--- The 1" sphere magnet is N45. It cost $7. I got that size because it fit into the coil that I had. I have had neos break but only when they hit something. At $7 ea plus shipping, I am being careful with this one.

  • thanks lid

  • When the sphere is drawn into the coil towards the end of the video, is that because you have manually reduced the RPM's or because the RPM's became too great?

  • tracmag--- I didn't reduce the speed. The ball just fell off. The table may have been slightly tilted or the coil not aligned just right. It was a very imperfect setup.

  • A little experiment if you are tempted: Make a second LED-pick-up coil with only three turns of wire with about the same diameter as the one you are currently using. It should drive the LED just as brightly.

    They just stared installing a new generation of super-bright LED-based billboard signs around here. It's pretty amazing, like the movie Bladerunner. They don't show video, I guess they figured it would be too distracting.

  • One small loop of wire doing the same thing---Now why didn't I think of that. I may have to buy a few of the new super super bright LEDs. Maybe give H,D,L, and F new eyes.

  • Nice work Lidmotor

  • tracmag----Thanks. Spinning magents are fun.

  • Great ,stable ,easy to start motor.Nicely done Lid.Have you tried adding the extra pot and relay coil?It may reduce the amp draw or would this effect the easy starting?Great stuff.Regards jonny

  • Jonny-----On your 'snake egg' low voltage version of this I was using the relay coil and extra pot and it did help quite a bit. I will probably try that on this along with a trifilar coil. I still havn't decided which way to go with the project. Noise and reliability are the issues I'm working with. I bought one of those commercial units called "Top Secret" and I'm studying that. It will run days on a 9volt battery and it is silent. The circuit in it doesn't charge---- but I can fix that.

  • your using N52 type neodymium? what transistor model are you using to conduct high voltage?

  • kenshin32-----The magnet is just one I found on Ebay and the transistor is a regular 2n3055 that is used in the standard Bedini SSG circuit.

  • what about a floating ball magnet using another magnet and tube what rpm could you achive off that setup. i am pointing at frictionless setup.

  • egn83b---- There is a video here on Youtube that shows a floating rotor motor. It may be possible to use that idea on this. That would cut down on the noise as well as the friction. Put that in a bell jar and suck the air out and things get even better. Put the whole thing in the freezer, get it really cold, and things would get very very interesting.

  • Lid:

    Those are some great improvements! I like how it just sits there, next to the coil. So, you are using a Lentz speed control, ha ha...that is brilliant! That thing really cranks man! My diametrically magnetized cylinders are on their way (like Jonnydavro is using) but in the meantime, I have to try this. Great work, as usual.

    Bill

  • Thanks Bill---They use this in Hybrid cars to help with braking and to recover energy. It works pretty good.

  • They use Lentz in regenerative braking systems? I didn't know that. Thanks. (I always wondered how they did that)

    Bill

  • Yes indeed, the drive motor is also the generator to recharge the batteries. It is just a question of which way the power is flowing through the motor/generator. It must also be very useful when you are driving through rolling hills. The energy your car put out to get the car up the hill can be partially recovered as you go down the hill and apply some regenerative braking.

  • I don't know if you have watched DadHav's videos yet or not but check out his beautiful work. He makes motors that do just that where if you manually spin them they generate energy into a capacitor and then the energy flows back out and they run on that stored up energy. Great builds.

  • Yay....just ordered some 1" spheres from ebay :)

  • fcdoth---Great! That is where I got mine.

  • Whoaahh

    I think that's a very nice way to get introduced to Bedini circuits since you don't need to spend time tweaking rotors and everything.

    I wonder how a multi-coil or maybe something like 6-filar (1 trigger coil and another 5 power coils) would behave.

    That little guy has the potential to load batteries pretty fast.

    Anyways, going to try that myself.

    Thanks for sharing and keep it up.

    Fernando

  • 7th view!!

  • Holly Molly, that thing is insanely fast ! Can you measure any "cop>1" effects like John Bedini does?

    Keep it up buddy 5*

  • deminos----- I don't think that this is very efficient. It is just different and an easy way to build a Bedini without the rotor issues.

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