Que viva la estrella roja, el himno de La Internacinal, las organizaciones revolucionarias y el RATM! The communist dream still alive!! The world wants socialism!! Ya basta de capitalismo!
if there was a band that espoused bigotry, racism, and murder would you listen to them just because they had killer riffs and awesome hooks? If you think RATM's ideas are bullshit you shouldn't listen to them, makes for less idiotic mooks and mosh monkeys ruining it forthe rest of us at the concerts
what you are watching there isnt a "mosh pit" thats just a bunch of people having a great time. Most pits are usually populated by degenerates that dont care about the music and just there to slam. google "mosh pit" i'm sure you'll find a real mosh where people's mouths are getting bloodied. so, if you think people are "nearly getting murdered in there" I suggest you never leave your house. I've been more bruised on a public bus than this.
dude,that's where I'm aiming at - people are NOT CUT UP FOR the effective working of an utopia such as communism; there will always be someone who grabs the dollars, because mankind is just like this, it's not made up of perfect and good people.
Communism have never proven and will never prove to be a useful form of rule. I guess that any radical form of rule is not cut up for human beings, as history has showed - I live in a post-communist country. Nevertheless, I appreciate RATM's fight for civil rights and their music.
U stupid ignorant fuck. What am I ranting about? Exactly. U don't know what ratm stands for. They stand for when a child in cuba refuses to kneel before "Che", because his Christian father was murdered in fronta him...his brains are blown out...a bullet thruda skull. This, ratm, markets the memory of this killer. May u burn in fuckin hell with 'em.
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This red star is from the flag of the EZLN, which is a leftist liberation organisation seeking autonomous rule for Chiapas, a region in southern Mexico; so in this case, this red star is actually about gaining freedom.
The entire world needs Rage and the revolution. Let's not be divided by nations and differences, we need to acknowledge but respect and appreciate those differences, only then can we be the human race as the internationale (the intro song) says.
They have more energy that today lazy bands, like limp bizkit, korn, thay are unique a frontman that give all in the perfonmances, a good guitarist not a virtuoso that give to the band a sound that difference that another bands, when rage broke up all the bands copy their sound and imitated, bands like linkin park, p.o.d, they never stay with their position if rage never start it all 10 years before that.
what the fuck is with people comparing morello with clapton and hendrix and shit, he tight as fuck hip hop rock guitarist i just saw rage at big day out and solo show, while clapton and shit are talented rage rock the fuckin shit out of a show, there will never be another band like rage again in my life time.
Why everobody discuss who's better and who's not better, that is a stupid discussion, eric clapton, jimi hendrix, the who, R.A.T.M, everything of that is rock, and everobody of them have his style and they different sound a that's why rock is different than pop, reggae, disco, techno, trip hop, rap. And that explain why rock survive from more that fifty years in the industry, from his sound and evolution. I said that mike patton is the best singer for me, but that is just my own opinion.
Anyway, Rage did do their thing and it was new, not really a completely new genre of music, but still they do have their own sound.
I find them boring because all of their songs are political which gets old. They are hypocrites, that's obvious, but honestly, I don't have a huge problem with hypocrisy.
Tom is not the best guitarist ever and Clapton would shred the shit out of Tom if he cared to. I doubt Tom thinks he's better that Clapton anyway and maybe after another 20 years he will be..
I have never heard Anyone play like Tom morello, the sounds he make and the feeling he has is just incredible! so I think you can easily compare him with guitarists like Pete Townshend and eric clapton (maybe not to page and hendrix) But I would realy like to se clapton and Townshend do some of the stuff that tom morello does. And to call Rage against the machine nu-metal, Now that's an insult to music! rage started a new and totaly unique sound!
Dude, its their own opinion. Just like you say Eric Clapton is one of the best guitar players, people could argue with you, but thats your own opinion. If the experts know whats best then let them handle it. Thanks.
Secondly, their musical talent is alright, but I see very little creativity in it (even the cookie-cutter political lyrics aside). They are creative for a hard-rock, nu-metal, or whatever you want to call it band, but then again, that doesn't say a lot.
To say Tom is the greatest guitarist ever is an insult to music. Eric Clapton, Jimmie Paige, Peter Townshend are obviously better and many many younger guitarists are arguably better. Vocals, while good and not pedestrian, certainly don't
uuuhhhhhhhh..... sorry, but did u just say rage has little creativity? Yeah let's see your saying the solos for Bulls on Parade, Testify, Sleep Now In the Fire, Guerrila Radio etc aren't creative? Maybe you should get yours ears checked cause i haven't heard clapton or jimmie page come up with those kinds of solos. Don't get me wrong they're some of the best guitarists ever but seriously. Tom being mediocre? Get your head out of your ass man!
Listen, Rage does tell you how to vote. Not literally, "Vote for candidate A", but their politics/lyrics are not about expanding your mind. They have agenda and chose facts/(some would argue, but I am not, not really facts) to support their agenda. IE telling you how to vote: which would be socialist or the most liberal candidate that is viable.
There's no difference between Rage and Rush Limbaugh cutting an album.
ok this is to the asshole who thinks that 1. rage tells people how to vote, and 2. that rages music is mediocre....im not even touch the first issue...cause well, your a fukin moron, and thats not what rage does...but in regards to music...they are one of the most creative bands out there today. they arent putting a load of bullshit production on a cd to make a buck. and tom morello is one of the most inventive guitarists of our age...so daytimegabe....go fuck yourself
Rage doesn't tell people how to vote - it involves people getting their asses out of the house to vote for something other than facsicm/communism/whatever the media is covering that day
OMG they played the internationale before they hit the stage?! how appropriate. If it weren't for Rage i wouldn't even know what the hell the internationale was. During Rock the Bells before they came on they played almost all of Bob Marley's legen, whihc is cool, but i'd have liked to hear this
Though you can't tell from the video, there were numerous metal barriers separating the crowd, preventing a vary large mosh pit. Within 48 hours there will be a very good review of this show on Glide Magazines website, as well as Vietnow dot org, or at least a link from there.
That is Zaptas army star you idiots its not the red star oc comunism but the red star on black that is the zaptas army star a movment that fights in mexico.
The EZLN is a socialist organization, hence the use of the red star.
Hopefully, you do understand that the Machine that the band is Raging against is capitalism, more specifically the capitalist empire that they hail from.
the EZLN is not socialist per se. They actually have more in common with anarcho-syndicalism, but they are their own thing. They're anti-capitalist for sure, but their govt. is rooted in the indigenous way of life and governance, not from anything Karl Marx or Peter Kropotkin wrote.
Yes, I am an anarcho-syndicalist myself, and I, like the EZLN, realize that socialism is a major part of my belief structure. Because anarco-syndicalism is a mixture of socialism and anarchism, it ist proper to call the EZLN socialist, as well as anarchist. The EZLN chose the red star of socialism for their flag bc of their strong socialist beliefs, but black was chose to go around it for their equally strong anarchist beliefs. Anarcho-syndicalism cannot exist without both.
Notice there singing Die Internationale a German Socialist anthem, Not Communist, all it speaks about is Socialism, Not Communism, I support communism to an extent but I am a socialist :O Its not the USSR anthem and thats the Socialist's Star
Originally I think it was in french, and the lyrics were slightly different in the german version. Anyways, Marx was a member of the first internationale, so that ought to say something.
erik, maybe your english sucks ... dont know but if u read my words again its says "bodies with no minds to think for themselves"
I was refering to your state of mind ... not communism or other ideologies ... ideologies suck the are just made too separate the mass from the true nature of healthy evolution ... i am my own, nobody owns my thoughts ... so if u wanna pull the trigger you holding to your head its your choise ... but if you wanna se thrue the illusion question the input you getting
capitalism is killin more plp then any other system has accomplished ...
it takes place behind the main scene ... directed by a few men fucking it up for everybodys evolution ... while we're moaning about which system is the best we r being fucked deeply and hard by the tyrants
wake up and free your self from inside out
its time for a revolution and it wont be televised :))
I've always liked Rage Against The Machine. But I think they know little of communism. I live in a post-communist country so I have some personal experience. It's just the same as nazism. This is the ideology that killed the most innocent people in the history for their different views.
Hungary was a satellite country of the Soviet Union, and the Soviet Union set up a government in Hungary modeled after theirs. The Soviet Union, though claiming to be communist, was actually fascist, and a fascist gov't cannot by definition be communist. I'm sure the members of RATM have studied enough political theory to understand this.
As I (and many others) see it, communism is an ideology which was created to justify an aggressive terrorist minority's intention to grab political power and terrify the people. They never ever wanted to create the utopistic communist state. Lenin was also a terrorist, murdering tremendous number of innocent people, death camp was also his invention.
This is my opinion. you needn't agree, of course. But I have good reasons to think this way, you can believe me.
I think what you are describing is Leninism, Trotskyism, and/or Stalinism, not communism.
Just because a group of people use communism as a guise for a fascist plutocratic oligarchy, it does not mean that the society is communist. U.S. soldiers refer to themselves as freedom fighters, but no one is foolish enough to swallow that. Likewise, no one should believe that a fascist gov't was communist, even though it claimed to be.
completely agree with you there.communism is basically shit as you sorta mentioned and it hasn't worked out well anywhere. i sympathize a lot with Rage, cause I don't think they are communists. at least the impression ive gotten is that its more about freedom and civil rights.
Anyone person who doesn't think that RATM has communist sympathies must have never listened to any of their songs. While some of the members might be anarcho-communists or anarcho-sydicalists, which means that their views are a mixture of anarchism and socialism, they do not support capitalism. And for anyone who is going to claim that they earn a living in a capitalist nation, it should be mentioned that there is nothing more socialist then trying to take all the $ one can awayfrom capitalism
well, I never accused Rage of being capitalists if thats what youre saying. I think I didn't make myself clear; obviously their socialists, but any sane person knows that classic communism simply does not work out, as misterbuckethead expressed. The utopia is in theory just wonderful, though.
Actually the communist theories of people from the era of Marx and Engels (if that is what you are refering to) were in fact an attack on what they saw as utopian socialism. Utopian socialism being activities of people like the factory owner Robert Owen. Infact the term scientific socialism was coined in response to it.
Communism itself means simply workers democracy. It is illogical for a socialist to argue against communism. If anything attack what you see as flawed method.
first, I have no idea who Robert Owen is (Should I?). Anyway, its just that man often is driven forward by greed, which makes it hard too work and THAT, we have several examples of. The worst examples Soviet, North Korea which brings us to TingoTroy; there is no way in hell one can deny that Soviet was a communist state, just google Soviet and you'll see.
yes, you'll see that the soviet union claimed to be socialist, but was, in fact, fascist. as i have explained before, a fascist nation cannot be communist by definition.
Psycarne is right. Communism and Socialism are words that are nearly interchangeable. However, the fascist government that was the Soviet Union claimed to be communist, so they have tarnished the word, and everyone is now afraid of it. Furthermore, it is difficult to understand what you mean by "classic communism," unless you are referring to fascism, which would be a grave error.
It's a big ignorant to say that, I mean for all the western media you have probably watched and consumed in your head, You live in Capitalistic Society, Maybe you should look outside your cookie cutter western politics, Communism is definitely not the best thing out there but what your saying is pure bullshit
LMAO it sounded like the dam building was sinking into the earth. Funny shit.
Ranteal 1 year ago
the song is the Internationale
natzirt 2 years ago 3
i was there ....viva el che carajooo
yukio8 2 years ago 3
their fuckinb brilliant , dont matter what he comes out with!
BRAWMINCE131 2 years ago
the ideas are not complete bullshit but man I keep the music is so damn good!! COME TO PERU! but first apologize for bombtrack yeah
toto30mx 3 years ago
@toto30mx IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
howya45 1 year ago
@howya45 huh?
toto30mx 1 year ago
Que viva la estrella roja, el himno de La Internacinal, las organizaciones revolucionarias y el RATM! The communist dream still alive!! The world wants socialism!! Ya basta de capitalismo!
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your a fucking idiot! rage kicks ass but their political ideas are bullshit
sandalssuck 3 years ago
you dumbass. dont listen to rage if you dont like their ideals
Pezmiester 3 years ago 13
if there was a band that espoused bigotry, racism, and murder would you listen to them just because they had killer riffs and awesome hooks? If you think RATM's ideas are bullshit you shouldn't listen to them, makes for less idiotic mooks and mosh monkeys ruining it forthe rest of us at the concerts
chilam8668 3 years ago 2
el mundo quizas no quiera socialismo, pero si queremos JUSTICIA
rage againts the machine!!!
izquemia 3 years ago
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they are communists? fuck them then!
sandalssuck 3 years ago
they aren't
swedishfish2 3 years ago
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then why are people saying good old socialist rock and roll? socialism is a form of communism.
sandalssuck 3 years ago
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and why are they playing the international when thats a communist song.
sandalssuck 3 years ago
wow your so fucking dumb
SuspectOfMurder 3 years ago
Fucking Powerful Bass,
And the Intro.
Slaves2Society 3 years ago
when they started playing it was distorted
mudkipzuzu 3 years ago
im bored =( someone come chat with me 9
JesseTheCarrot 3 years ago
People are getting nearly murdered in the mosh pit! Definitely one of the (if not THE) greatest bands to come out in the past couple decades.
DiscoGabe 3 years ago
what you are watching there isnt a "mosh pit" thats just a bunch of people having a great time. Most pits are usually populated by degenerates that dont care about the music and just there to slam. google "mosh pit" i'm sure you'll find a real mosh where people's mouths are getting bloodied. so, if you think people are "nearly getting murdered in there" I suggest you never leave your house. I've been more bruised on a public bus than this.
krionic 3 years ago
it is not "zapista" man,
is ZAPATISTA ARMY STAR"
revolucionario187 3 years ago
The Oxegen show was awesome... but did no-one else think the red star was *bitterly* ironic, given the sponsors?
All I could think was "Lights out - go get a Heineken!"
beansmps 3 years ago
ha ha true. but they've used the zapista army star in a lot of their shows during this tour. still a valid point! ha
stedixy 3 years ago
Made me laugh, as much as I love them... show of the year for me, regardless of all that :)
beansmps 3 years ago
Same as Oxegen on Sunday,everyone chanted this song,fucking great show!
FinCroweman 3 years ago
Good ole socialist rock n fuckin roll.
Revolution . .. . . here!
SCART of
The MOLOTOV
scart69net 3 years ago 4
You think that is insane, wait until you see Scotland this Saturday, Rage at T in the Park...going to be mental!
colinmilne75 3 years ago
Holy shit. The crowds in Japan were way more epic than the crowd at Big Day Out in New Zealand. Thats shit is insane.
ChrisAnthonyLim1234 3 years ago
if u break it down there wiill always be corrupt ppl in any form of rule that ever exists unless everyone is perfect.
RocknRage 3 years ago
Communism is good. Rage is better.
TakeThePowerBack27 3 years ago 12
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198810001110101 2 months ago
AS krs one said. "Comunism fell to the dollars cause YOU were grabbing it!"
mrremuff 3 years ago 7
dude, you got some sense in you.
LONG LIVE RAGE!
maserati1990 3 years ago
dude,that's where I'm aiming at - people are NOT CUT UP FOR the effective working of an utopia such as communism; there will always be someone who grabs the dollars, because mankind is just like this, it's not made up of perfect and good people.
br3jkamrule 3 years ago
...and pointing to the degenerations of capitalism.
br3jkamrule 3 years ago
Communism have never proven and will never prove to be a useful form of rule. I guess that any radical form of rule is not cut up for human beings, as history has showed - I live in a post-communist country. Nevertheless, I appreciate RATM's fight for civil rights and their music.
br3jkamrule 3 years ago
U stupid ignorant fuck. What am I ranting about? Exactly. U don't know what ratm stands for. They stand for when a child in cuba refuses to kneel before "Che", because his Christian father was murdered in fronta him...his brains are blown out...a bullet thruda skull. This, ratm, markets the memory of this killer. May u burn in fuckin hell with 'em.
doctorspankluv 3 years ago
que comtradiccion la internacional ytodo lo le rodea, mo, guitarras... es produccto del capitalismo... Spain is a Republic!! healt & Republic
recasobi 3 years ago 2
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Tu sabe o no? Fuck Che y RATM
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Deathilger 3 years ago
Wtf is it about retarded screams? im seeing them everywere.
DisturbingSilence 3 years ago
Now thats a bad ass crowd.
statikx1 3 years ago
i really love RATM since i teenage. i wish i could meet RATM concert in Malaysia...hey zack! come here!
fooqaw 3 years ago
Good evening! We are Rage Against The Machine from Los Angeles, California!
AnJeLsA 3 years ago 2
RED star is a symbol of freedom and liberation! And it's also accompanied by the real comunism hymn, known as "the international".
They're fuckin' great, it's an awesome opening for a concert
subpresy 3 years ago
"an awesome opening for a concert" because of capitalistic channels like Sony BMG.
generationy1992 3 years ago
whilst rage are great, RED STAR=COMMUNISM=DICTATORS=LOSS OF FREEDOM
arealwanker 3 years ago
This red star is from the flag of the EZLN, which is a leftist liberation organisation seeking autonomous rule for Chiapas, a region in southern Mexico; so in this case, this red star is actually about gaining freedom.
Seraphmodel02 3 years ago 9
I think they're also anti-globilization, and incase someone doesn't know the communist star stands for the five fingers of the workers hand.
0101110110001100 3 years ago 3
The Red Scare is over. Simply portraying Communism as a synonym for 'loss of freedom' doesn't fly among those interested in logical discourse.
sqharawa 3 years ago
The best concert intro EVER!
GKMARCHE 3 years ago
RATM needs to come back to the US. We need them more than Japan does.
Villageidiot84 3 years ago
The entire world needs Rage and the revolution. Let's not be divided by nations and differences, we need to acknowledge but respect and appreciate those differences, only then can we be the human race as the internationale (the intro song) says.
chilam8668 3 years ago 2
So do you, you fascist dickweed.
Flow6969696969 3 years ago
hey assholes you fuckin capitalistic and imperialistic americans REDSTAR=REVOLUTION
Weedee90 3 years ago
fuck you you asshole warbound RATM is Biggest band
Weedee90 3 years ago
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Just like 2 girls 1 cup. Socialism is a fad.
generationy1992 3 years ago
to a certain extent yes, but RATM made their songs 10+ years ago. I still have not seen that site thank god!
bdhammi 3 years ago
lol that comparison is genius.
Seraphmodel02 3 years ago
thanks.
generationy1992 3 years ago
LOL EVERYONE JUMPING =D
RAGE AGAINST the MACHINE > You >D
ElementShinobi 3 years ago
Mikepatton89, you are not very good at English.
zuperduperboi 4 years ago
so what? the important is the message to deliver
fooqaw 3 years ago
I was at this show but missed the first song--- till now. Nice post.
lazarus0202 4 years ago
la migliore band del mondo...fuck Audioslave!!!
elpocholoco1983 4 years ago 4
They have more energy that today lazy bands, like limp bizkit, korn, thay are unique a frontman that give all in the perfonmances, a good guitarist not a virtuoso that give to the band a sound that difference that another bands, when rage broke up all the bands copy their sound and imitated, bands like linkin park, p.o.d, they never stay with their position if rage never start it all 10 years before that.
Mikepatton89 4 years ago 6
Rage = one of the most influencial and powerful bands of current times. SOUND FUCKING AWSOME. And tell it straight! Still rip it!
akuofyorkshire 4 years ago 3
i am goen to them...simple as...i have tickets and all...i can die happy....simple as.
biggareth1 4 years ago
great, amazing performance!
JEDiTECHNIQUE 4 years ago
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fuck, i hate red star
archeringnow 4 years ago
what the fuck is with people comparing morello with clapton and hendrix and shit, he tight as fuck hip hop rock guitarist i just saw rage at big day out and solo show, while clapton and shit are talented rage rock the fuckin shit out of a show, there will never be another band like rage again in my life time.
raffertyboy 4 years ago
i have no clue what you just said
ddsyr678 4 years ago 2
basically hes saying that while clapton and hendrix are talented, they arent as intense live purplemonkeydishwasher.
JoMamma24 4 years ago
Cashing in the red imagery for the masses...Capitalistic.
generationy1992 4 years ago
Capitalism isn't the word you idiot. It's just a star.
lexcorona85 4 years ago
if u now the person that was screamin please hit them
timelessmelody123 4 years ago
See this pogo when they start to play!!!
cheval2bataille 4 years ago
that screaming really pissed me off
danpow 4 years ago
Sorry for me poor english is EVERYBODY.
Mikepatton89 4 years ago
Why everobody discuss who's better and who's not better, that is a stupid discussion, eric clapton, jimi hendrix, the who, R.A.T.M, everything of that is rock, and everobody of them have his style and they different sound a that's why rock is different than pop, reggae, disco, techno, trip hop, rap. And that explain why rock survive from more that fifty years in the industry, from his sound and evolution. I said that mike patton is the best singer for me, but that is just my own opinion.
Mikepatton89 4 years ago 2
Anyway, Rage did do their thing and it was new, not really a completely new genre of music, but still they do have their own sound.
I find them boring because all of their songs are political which gets old. They are hypocrites, that's obvious, but honestly, I don't have a huge problem with hypocrisy.
Tom is not the best guitarist ever and Clapton would shred the shit out of Tom if he cared to. I doubt Tom thinks he's better that Clapton anyway and maybe after another 20 years he will be..
daytimegabe 4 years ago
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You're a cock.
gtk00 4 years ago
I have never heard Anyone play like Tom morello, the sounds he make and the feeling he has is just incredible! so I think you can easily compare him with guitarists like Pete Townshend and eric clapton (maybe not to page and hendrix) But I would realy like to se clapton and Townshend do some of the stuff that tom morello does. And to call Rage against the machine nu-metal, Now that's an insult to music! rage started a new and totaly unique sound!
knarkarn 4 years ago
i think the best of RATM, is the guitar playing, solos and everything...
about the mesage, quite debatible.
vicp007 4 years ago
In defense of Rage, I had Sleep Now In the Fire stuck in my head all yesterday. It's catchy.
daytimegabe 4 years ago
break so much new ground that it's a vocal revolution. Haven't heard anything special from the drumming...
Just because they're your favorite doesn't make them the best.
daytimegabe 4 years ago
Dude, its their own opinion. Just like you say Eric Clapton is one of the best guitar players, people could argue with you, but thats your own opinion. If the experts know whats best then let them handle it. Thanks.
logangee 4 years ago
Secondly, their musical talent is alright, but I see very little creativity in it (even the cookie-cutter political lyrics aside). They are creative for a hard-rock, nu-metal, or whatever you want to call it band, but then again, that doesn't say a lot.
To say Tom is the greatest guitarist ever is an insult to music. Eric Clapton, Jimmie Paige, Peter Townshend are obviously better and many many younger guitarists are arguably better. Vocals, while good and not pedestrian, certainly don't
daytimegabe 4 years ago
uuuhhhhhhhh..... sorry, but did u just say rage has little creativity? Yeah let's see your saying the solos for Bulls on Parade, Testify, Sleep Now In the Fire, Guerrila Radio etc aren't creative? Maybe you should get yours ears checked cause i haven't heard clapton or jimmie page come up with those kinds of solos. Don't get me wrong they're some of the best guitarists ever but seriously. Tom being mediocre? Get your head out of your ass man!
CillaBlack5 4 years ago
Tom morello isn´t one of the greatest?
you either deaf or a stupid fuck...
my guess you're a stupid fuck.
vicp007 4 years ago
THIS is for daytimegabe
vicp007 4 years ago
Listen, Rage does tell you how to vote. Not literally, "Vote for candidate A", but their politics/lyrics are not about expanding your mind. They have agenda and chose facts/(some would argue, but I am not, not really facts) to support their agenda. IE telling you how to vote: which would be socialist or the most liberal candidate that is viable.
There's no difference between Rage and Rush Limbaugh cutting an album.
daytimegabe 4 years ago
ok this is to the asshole who thinks that 1. rage tells people how to vote, and 2. that rages music is mediocre....im not even touch the first issue...cause well, your a fukin moron, and thats not what rage does...but in regards to music...they are one of the most creative bands out there today. they arent putting a load of bullshit production on a cd to make a buck. and tom morello is one of the most inventive guitarists of our age...so daytimegabe....go fuck yourself
Nirvana97123 4 years ago 3
They music in the background is OUR HYMN
maddenzito1 4 years ago
Rage doesn't tell people how to vote - it involves people getting their asses out of the house to vote for something other than facsicm/communism/whatever the media is covering that day
UberBenny1 4 years ago
RAGE!!!
punkdude543 4 years ago
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Rage kind of sucks. I don't really need some jerk-off from a band telling me how to vote.
The music ranges from mediocre to above average.
daytimegabe 4 years ago
another bush administration fucker right here.
Hippiebackoroono 4 years ago 3
if you judge them for their artistical capability, then you're a huge peace of shit.
NunozVai 4 years ago
ANARCHY 4 EVER! ^_^
AK1RA1983 4 years ago 2
Great job with the camera. What an atmosphere!!
SaintJust101 4 years ago
Portugallllllll, I'll be there \m/
deal8 4 years ago
COME TO BRAZIL
crcrulez 4 years ago
come to Belgium WOOOHOOO
GARemoKind 4 years ago
PINKPOPP
tunderisthabomb 4 years ago
WHOEW PINKPOP! wie heeft er zin in?? IK!
drummerkid001 4 years ago
COME TO ENGLAND
Hippiebackoroono 4 years ago
Internaionale , its an international socialist anthem . french version is the most popular .
Coggy69 4 years ago
What is this song at the pegining can anyone anwser pliz?
F1brawfa 4 years ago
horrible sound
willie199120 4 years ago
A review to this show has been placed under forums on vietnow (dot) com. check it out
TingoTroy 4 years ago
OMG they played the internationale before they hit the stage?! how appropriate. If it weren't for Rage i wouldn't even know what the hell the internationale was. During Rock the Bells before they came on they played almost all of Bob Marley's legen, whihc is cool, but i'd have liked to hear this
chilam8668 4 years ago
What are the costs of a RATM-Ticket in year 2008? Does anyone know??
BrandonBoyd91 4 years ago
in Japan tour
Ticket: ¥9,000(Arena:Standing/2F:Seat)
aprox unos 85 $
ElRafaFloyd 4 years ago
Aus mosh was better
Swampy5633 4 years ago
Though you can't tell from the video, there were numerous metal barriers separating the crowd, preventing a vary large mosh pit. Within 48 hours there will be a very good review of this show on Glide Magazines website, as well as Vietnow dot org, or at least a link from there.
TingoTroy 4 years ago
yes but you do realise that for communism to work, the entire world needs to take it up, and who can seriously see that happening?
drumz201 4 years ago
¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡Viva el comunismo!!!!!!!!!!!!!
¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡Socialism Or Dead!!!!!!!!!!!!!
socialismordead 4 years ago 2
That is Zaptas army star you idiots its not the red star oc comunism but the red star on black that is the zaptas army star a movment that fights in mexico.
F1brawfa 4 years ago 2
The EZLN is a socialist organization, hence the use of the red star.
Hopefully, you do understand that the Machine that the band is Raging against is capitalism, more specifically the capitalist empire that they hail from.
TingoTroy 4 years ago 2
It's socialist, And there raging moreover to the Military industrial complex and western society :o
OverlordZeratul 4 years ago
the EZLN is not socialist per se. They actually have more in common with anarcho-syndicalism, but they are their own thing. They're anti-capitalist for sure, but their govt. is rooted in the indigenous way of life and governance, not from anything Karl Marx or Peter Kropotkin wrote.
chilam8668 4 years ago
Yes, I am an anarcho-syndicalist myself, and I, like the EZLN, realize that socialism is a major part of my belief structure. Because anarco-syndicalism is a mixture of socialism and anarchism, it ist proper to call the EZLN socialist, as well as anarchist. The EZLN chose the red star of socialism for their flag bc of their strong socialist beliefs, but black was chose to go around it for their equally strong anarchist beliefs. Anarcho-syndicalism cannot exist without both.
TingoTroy 4 years ago
Notice there singing Die Internationale a German Socialist anthem, Not Communist, all it speaks about is Socialism, Not Communism, I support communism to an extent but I am a socialist :O Its not the USSR anthem and thats the Socialist's Star
OverlordZeratul 4 years ago 3
Originally I think it was in french, and the lyrics were slightly different in the german version. Anyways, Marx was a member of the first internationale, so that ought to say something.
NikitaLion 4 years ago
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fucking communist shit scums
eerrik33 4 years ago
do u even know what communism is?
7777777777e 4 years ago
no he just woke up and his diper's wet ...
apparently the old amerikan propaganda machine still brainwashes plp ...
pathetic ... bodies with no minds to think for themselves
its the tyrants who are the problem not the ideologies ...
alisic69 4 years ago 2
fuck you! "think for themselves" communism forbids thinking by yourself everybody has to were the same clothes has to make exactly as much money !
eerrik33 4 years ago
erik, maybe your english sucks ... dont know but if u read my words again its says "bodies with no minds to think for themselves"
I was refering to your state of mind ... not communism or other ideologies ... ideologies suck the are just made too separate the mass from the true nature of healthy evolution ... i am my own, nobody owns my thoughts ... so if u wanna pull the trigger you holding to your head its your choise ... but if you wanna se thrue the illusion question the input you getting
alisic69 4 years ago
socialism does not equal communism.
fartbandit 4 years ago
capitalism is killin more plp then any other system has accomplished ...
it takes place behind the main scene ... directed by a few men fucking it up for everybodys evolution ... while we're moaning about which system is the best we r being fucked deeply and hard by the tyrants
wake up and free your self from inside out
its time for a revolution and it wont be televised :))
alisic69 4 years ago 2
I've always liked Rage Against The Machine. But I think they know little of communism. I live in a post-communist country so I have some personal experience. It's just the same as nazism. This is the ideology that killed the most innocent people in the history for their different views.
premier0807 4 years ago
Hungary was a satellite country of the Soviet Union, and the Soviet Union set up a government in Hungary modeled after theirs. The Soviet Union, though claiming to be communist, was actually fascist, and a fascist gov't cannot by definition be communist. I'm sure the members of RATM have studied enough political theory to understand this.
TingoTroy 4 years ago
As I (and many others) see it, communism is an ideology which was created to justify an aggressive terrorist minority's intention to grab political power and terrify the people. They never ever wanted to create the utopistic communist state. Lenin was also a terrorist, murdering tremendous number of innocent people, death camp was also his invention.
This is my opinion. you needn't agree, of course. But I have good reasons to think this way, you can believe me.
premier0807 4 years ago
I think what you are describing is Leninism, Trotskyism, and/or Stalinism, not communism.
Just because a group of people use communism as a guise for a fascist plutocratic oligarchy, it does not mean that the society is communist. U.S. soldiers refer to themselves as freedom fighters, but no one is foolish enough to swallow that. Likewise, no one should believe that a fascist gov't was communist, even though it claimed to be.
TingoTroy 4 years ago 3
completely agree with you there.communism is basically shit as you sorta mentioned and it hasn't worked out well anywhere. i sympathize a lot with Rage, cause I don't think they are communists. at least the impression ive gotten is that its more about freedom and civil rights.
BunkOlle 4 years ago
just because it doesn't work doesn't mean it's a poor concept, it means people are poor at carrying out communism effectively.
misterbuckethead 4 years ago 2
Anyone person who doesn't think that RATM has communist sympathies must have never listened to any of their songs. While some of the members might be anarcho-communists or anarcho-sydicalists, which means that their views are a mixture of anarchism and socialism, they do not support capitalism. And for anyone who is going to claim that they earn a living in a capitalist nation, it should be mentioned that there is nothing more socialist then trying to take all the $ one can awayfrom capitalism
TingoTroy 4 years ago
well, I never accused Rage of being capitalists if thats what youre saying. I think I didn't make myself clear; obviously their socialists, but any sane person knows that classic communism simply does not work out, as misterbuckethead expressed. The utopia is in theory just wonderful, though.
BunkOlle 4 years ago
Actually the communist theories of people from the era of Marx and Engels (if that is what you are refering to) were in fact an attack on what they saw as utopian socialism. Utopian socialism being activities of people like the factory owner Robert Owen. Infact the term scientific socialism was coined in response to it.
Communism itself means simply workers democracy. It is illogical for a socialist to argue against communism. If anything attack what you see as flawed method.
Psycarne 4 years ago
first, I have no idea who Robert Owen is (Should I?). Anyway, its just that man often is driven forward by greed, which makes it hard too work and THAT, we have several examples of. The worst examples Soviet, North Korea which brings us to TingoTroy; there is no way in hell one can deny that Soviet was a communist state, just google Soviet and you'll see.
BunkOlle 4 years ago
yes, you'll see that the soviet union claimed to be socialist, but was, in fact, fascist. as i have explained before, a fascist nation cannot be communist by definition.
TingoTroy 4 years ago
Psycarne is right. Communism and Socialism are words that are nearly interchangeable. However, the fascist government that was the Soviet Union claimed to be communist, so they have tarnished the word, and everyone is now afraid of it. Furthermore, it is difficult to understand what you mean by "classic communism," unless you are referring to fascism, which would be a grave error.
TingoTroy 4 years ago
It's a big ignorant to say that, I mean for all the western media you have probably watched and consumed in your head, You live in Capitalistic Society, Maybe you should look outside your cookie cutter western politics, Communism is definitely not the best thing out there but what your saying is pure bullshit
OverlordZeratul 4 years ago
We lived in communism for decades, so we have first hand experience.
premier0807 4 years ago
Was ther a big crowd ? yea i cnow stupid question.
F1brawfa 4 years ago
There was probably a crowd of about 16,000. I'll be posting a review on a website within the next couple days, and I'll put a url on here.
TingoTroy 4 years ago
wow 16,000 is big crowd but i think its the smallest crowd on their concert since the reunion.
F1brawfa 4 years ago
Tain l'internationale au début...La classe!
tryo610 4 years ago 2
this is amazing but for some reason it doesnt seem very rage-like
legault40 4 years ago
Rage fuckin rules!!
joerod1990 4 years ago
just fu**ing amazing
itsumania 4 years ago