I am english and to be honest, I have no problem understanding any them. I suppose it's because I've grown up listening to people from all over the country and it's second nature to me now. I'm from the county over from Margaret and so have a very similar accent, I'm rarely misunderstood and I assume that most other Britons whether from Liverpool, Leeds or London would agree with my experiences.
@dqtmarie God I wonder if you're english because i'm not and have exactly the same problem! i don't mean any offence, i'm just curious about how it sounds for an american for example or if native britons have difficulties with understanding dialects from another parts of the country;)
@dqtmarie What's strange for me is when people say "Oh I love their accents!" But I didn't even notice. I'm American, but I been acting with so many accents that I never notice them. Not Cockney, "proper" British, nor Australian accents. So weird.
@AlinaTowers She's beautiful, different, passionate and unafraid to stand up to him even if she is wrong at times. The film is not as good as the book for portraying the right of Margarets arguments. Ideal in way for being different- superior? She's morally upright. And anyway, attraction has no logic to it.
Fanny for the win!! Hahhaa .... she is quite the character. Dumb as all hell but she plays her part well. And that accent! Thornton couldn't be any more dreamy, just sitting there with the morning paper, defending "Miss Hale" ...... ugh , i could jump him right now!
i feel i am overlooking important ideeas of the movie, like the industrialisation, life of the workers, strikes and so on... and only focusing on the love story. RA in steeling all the spotlight with those dreamy eyes
One thing i like about this is that it gives me such a better understanding of what was happening during this time in the factories from the workers and owners views. We've been studying the industrial revolution in history and this movie makes is more enjoyable! I love it! And Mr. Thorton is HOTTTT
Oooh! "If you'd let us alone, we might just see her merits and like her." He's been talking to them about Margaret since well before that conversation.
I like Mrs. Thornton as well. I don't think she is evil. She is just a very strong woman and an introvert, she's not used to enthusiastic displays of feelings like her daughter. She loves her son and somehow her reaction is the same as any mother's would be in front of the woman her son is in love with: fear that she will be pushed away in second place, even if the woman is maybe not worth holding the first place.
how many battles like this had to be fought to transform these horrendous conditions to what we today call the Labour Code. and how about the working conditions in the Third world countries, there it is still at the beginning........
@PoliticalPars I do understand what do you mean, but I can not agree in both theory and practitce ( modern capitalism and transfer of exploitation, I mean agricultural and industrial exploitation of workers in the 3rd world countries ). You can not compare decline of unions and working conditions in EU, USA and sweatshops. One week in sweatshop somewhere in Bangladesh and I think all those neoconservative economists would be socialists immediately......
@ondeia Of course you are correct in the literal sense, but I am feeling rather down about the state of our economy, and how we are treating one another. Thanks for a good response, no an excellent response.
@PoliticalPars Well, I think that economy now is really global, so intertwined, that it is hard to speak about our economy. But where are you from, anyway? The basic thing is that one of the most influential parts of today economy are corporations, so it is difficult to think about and solve ec. problem in terms of national policy. More there are economic blocks with different participants mutually interdependent.
@ondeia I live in the US, and surely understand the global impact of all economies and still think how people are treating each other (in this country) is tied to financial gain and loss. It ought not be that way, but the have-nots are growing while the have's are gaining at an extraordinary pace.
@PoliticalPars Well in that sense I am so grateful for my Czech republic:-) Under pressure, gap is opening too, but still keeps different, peculiar thoughts, at least people around me:-) I am from countryside but studying in the capital, and it seems to me, that people in the countryside, because they don´t have so much money, orient themselves to other things, which they soon realize are more important and enjoy it, even though they still have to count.
@ondeia Happy New Year from me to you--and I, too, now live in the country and we do get by well, or reasonably well in our mutual comfort, but the news here is bleak.
@PoliticalPars Happy New Year too, and I wish you to hear more optimistic news in the New Year. I have historical " advantage ", whenever I am sad about bleak news, I just remind myself Czech history - 1938,1948,1968 or just imagine myself to born for example in Ivory Coast and I feel better.....Good luck we all will need it!
@ondeia I respect you for keeping your attitude. The harder times get the more I believe in what my mother said about, "counting your blessings." We can be bitter or sweet. Our choice. Nice to meet you Ondeia. :)
@PoliticalPars Well and how do we treat each other at the most basic, human level is not economic, political question - it is question of mind and behaviour and conscience for each of us, and every human being must find his own personal response ( which will have direct impact to others of course ).
the lady who plays Fanny is brilliant! lol she can really act! I loved the part when Mr. Thronton says, "...How about a strike?!" and her mouth just drops open! lol
omg i love Mr. Higgins i think is his name - the strike leader - amazing thinking, loved how he said no voilence - they expect us to act like animals -
Ooooo and now he stands up for her! I'm really, truly starting to like this man.... I admit that first time he appeared I thought he was an ass, hot as hell, but an ass..... now I'm quite falling in love! XD
@SatinBlade starting only??? im already like undescribly and deeply in love with him :) hes just toooooo imperfect to not be loved!! ;P if that makes sense lol
@SatinBlade :If you read the book the beating at the beginning never happens (probably the segment where you thought him an ass!) The only reason it's added is to create a quick conflict between Margaret and Thornton. In the novel the conflict slowly develops around dsiagreement in their opinions. And the book is fantastic!
It's true, baised on their history, Mrs. Thornton has a right to be so proud of her son. The daughter, now, she didn't do so well with, that girl is insufferable.
I suppose maybe her mother overlooked her a bit with focusing on her son so just let her wander and form her own opinions and impressions of things and probably never noticed until later on that she has turned out slightly ridiculous
I may be the only one who thinks this but I really like Mrs. Thornton. She's mean and tough, but there's a good heart under all that black taffeta. How she ended up with an idiot daughter like Fanny is beyond me.
Agreed. I love Sinead Cusack. She and Richard Armitage have great chemistry, they really make you believe that they could be a mother and son. I still like Fanny though, she makes me laugh with her ridiculousness.
I agree, I mean Mr. Thorton already said that he and his family have been through hard times. The sister, however has no excuse for her vapid ways. :/
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saying.
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I am english and to be honest, I have no problem understanding any them. I suppose it's because I've grown up listening to people from all over the country and it's second nature to me now. I'm from the county over from Margaret and so have a very similar accent, I'm rarely misunderstood and I assume that most other Britons whether from Liverpool, Leeds or London would agree with my experiences.
xAnEnglishRosex 3 weeks ago
I have a hard time understanding their accent (the Thortons) when they speak in a low voice... I have to replay it a couple of times lol
dqtmarie 4 months ago 4
@dqtmarie God I wonder if you're english because i'm not and have exactly the same problem! i don't mean any offence, i'm just curious about how it sounds for an american for example or if native britons have difficulties with understanding dialects from another parts of the country;)
dienisija 4 months ago
@dienisija English is actually my second language but I'd say I know "american english" :P
dqtmarie 3 months ago
@dqtmarie What's strange for me is when people say "Oh I love their accents!" But I didn't even notice. I'm American, but I been acting with so many accents that I never notice them. Not Cockney, "proper" British, nor Australian accents. So weird.
KeenanSophieLarafan 2 months ago
@dqtmarie and I am French lol...Imagine my troubles to get it all
seggirard 2 weeks ago in playlist Elizabeth Gaskell's ~ North and South
why does he like her? From all he knows she's just a prejudiced southerner.
AlinaTowers 6 months ago
@AlinaTowers She's beautiful, different, passionate and unafraid to stand up to him even if she is wrong at times. The film is not as good as the book for portraying the right of Margarets arguments. Ideal in way for being different- superior? She's morally upright. And anyway, attraction has no logic to it.
F4NT4FRU1TTW15T 4 months ago in playlist North and South
His face when his mom tells him, "she'll never have you".
lunainterna 6 months ago 16
Fanny for the win!! Hahhaa .... she is quite the character. Dumb as all hell but she plays her part well. And that accent! Thornton couldn't be any more dreamy, just sitting there with the morning paper, defending "Miss Hale" ...... ugh , i could jump him right now!
Bubviv 6 months ago 6
I love Fanny...shallow and funny.
TheMissHawkeye 6 months ago 6
i feel i am overlooking important ideeas of the movie, like the industrialisation, life of the workers, strikes and so on... and only focusing on the love story. RA in steeling all the spotlight with those dreamy eyes
corina1036 6 months ago 6
There are too many Fanny's in real life.
marybarton2011 6 months ago 6
I thought Thorntons first line in the drawing room scene was going to be to tell fanny to shut it! Just maybe not that bluntly...
Charlotte2791 7 months ago
Fanny= spoiled bitch.....why don't they put her in the factory to work LOLOL
AnarchyEchelon 7 months ago
i am sooooo annoyed at people who watch these types of dramas and start emulating their speech patterns!!!
whyb3t 7 months ago
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Persiansweetcat1 7 months ago
he kinda looks like Hugh Jackman ;)
BFFsCrew 7 months ago
@BFFsCrew But he sounds like Sean Bean.
lesababy 7 months ago
yeah right, mr thornton, spare the need to kid yourself! look at that little smile~ heehee
mygirlfanatic 8 months ago 3
WOmen like Fanny are the most annoying creatures on earth.
shaqdaddy11 8 months ago 4
I love the why that fanny moves down the table away from them, as if they would disappear. If she wanted to be alone, leave the room!!!!
271az 8 months ago
I just noticed that Fanny is huming the song we hear though out the movie lol
missevilkitty 9 months ago 4
ok i thought thorten was horrible and ugly....but now...i confess im warming up to him...........
GodLovesThisGurl 10 months ago
I love how the sister is humming the theme of the series...though rather off-key
awakened2ug 10 months ago 20
One thing i like about this is that it gives me such a better understanding of what was happening during this time in the factories from the workers and owners views. We've been studying the industrial revolution in history and this movie makes is more enjoyable! I love it! And Mr. Thorton is HOTTTT
aero625 10 months ago 9
Oooh! "If you'd let us alone, we might just see her merits and like her." He's been talking to them about Margaret since well before that conversation.
Asteph4chivi 1 year ago 5
I do not like his sister.
JelenaLove97 1 year ago
the sister is humming the tune of the show, though in a very off key note....
awakened2ug 1 year ago 2
@awakened2ug
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who noticed that. I thought "is she humming the theme song?" It's a sped up version and quite out of tune.
NoelleHarmony 1 year ago 5
At 1:24 I thought he was going to say, "Must you hum?" I know that's what I was saying...
jame1881 1 year ago 2
I like Mrs. Thornton as well. I don't think she is evil. She is just a very strong woman and an introvert, she's not used to enthusiastic displays of feelings like her daughter. She loves her son and somehow her reaction is the same as any mother's would be in front of the woman her son is in love with: fear that she will be pushed away in second place, even if the woman is maybe not worth holding the first place.
fdtk77 1 year ago 7
he looks almost crestf atallen when his mother says 'she'll never have ya" :) 3:21
Missmethinksalot1 1 year ago
Oh Mr Thornton. I fall in love with you the first time I laid my eyes on you....
murtisrirejeki1 1 year ago
how many battles like this had to be fought to transform these horrendous conditions to what we today call the Labour Code. and how about the working conditions in the Third world countries, there it is still at the beginning........
ondeia 1 year ago
@ondeia Sometimes I think we haven't made any prospects as labour goes down and unions declined. It seems as if the entire world is third.
PoliticalPars 1 year ago
@PoliticalPars I do understand what do you mean, but I can not agree in both theory and practitce ( modern capitalism and transfer of exploitation, I mean agricultural and industrial exploitation of workers in the 3rd world countries ). You can not compare decline of unions and working conditions in EU, USA and sweatshops. One week in sweatshop somewhere in Bangladesh and I think all those neoconservative economists would be socialists immediately......
ondeia 1 year ago
@ondeia Of course you are correct in the literal sense, but I am feeling rather down about the state of our economy, and how we are treating one another. Thanks for a good response, no an excellent response.
PoliticalPars 1 year ago
@PoliticalPars Well, I think that economy now is really global, so intertwined, that it is hard to speak about our economy. But where are you from, anyway? The basic thing is that one of the most influential parts of today economy are corporations, so it is difficult to think about and solve ec. problem in terms of national policy. More there are economic blocks with different participants mutually interdependent.
ondeia 1 year ago
@ondeia I live in the US, and surely understand the global impact of all economies and still think how people are treating each other (in this country) is tied to financial gain and loss. It ought not be that way, but the have-nots are growing while the have's are gaining at an extraordinary pace.
PoliticalPars 1 year ago
@PoliticalPars Well in that sense I am so grateful for my Czech republic:-) Under pressure, gap is opening too, but still keeps different, peculiar thoughts, at least people around me:-) I am from countryside but studying in the capital, and it seems to me, that people in the countryside, because they don´t have so much money, orient themselves to other things, which they soon realize are more important and enjoy it, even though they still have to count.
ondeia 1 year ago
@ondeia Happy New Year from me to you--and I, too, now live in the country and we do get by well, or reasonably well in our mutual comfort, but the news here is bleak.
PoliticalPars 1 year ago
@PoliticalPars Happy New Year too, and I wish you to hear more optimistic news in the New Year. I have historical " advantage ", whenever I am sad about bleak news, I just remind myself Czech history - 1938,1948,1968 or just imagine myself to born for example in Ivory Coast and I feel better.....Good luck we all will need it!
ondeia 1 year ago
@ondeia I respect you for keeping your attitude. The harder times get the more I believe in what my mother said about, "counting your blessings." We can be bitter or sweet. Our choice. Nice to meet you Ondeia. :)
Songsmirth 1 year ago
@PoliticalPars Well and how do we treat each other at the most basic, human level is not economic, political question - it is question of mind and behaviour and conscience for each of us, and every human being must find his own personal response ( which will have direct impact to others of course ).
ondeia 1 year ago
He's so handsome !!!!
anahiyaelle 1 year ago 3
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kiminji100 1 year ago
And where have I seen Bessie's father before? He had a smallish part in somehting....Inspector Lynley? Something.
marginallymental 1 year ago
@marginallymental he's the stone mason in "Lark Rise to Candleford"
firsthuma 1 year ago
@firsthuma, yes, but somewhere else, too. I think it was Inspector Lynley
marginallymental 1 year ago
this series keeps getting better and better each time i watch it
r5q5is10 1 year ago
say, richard armitage reminds me a little of hugh jackman
ahenmaxtae 1 year ago 6
@ahenmaxtae that is absolutely true but not sure who is sexier.
breakingblah 1 year ago
the lady who plays Fanny is brilliant! lol she can really act! I loved the part when Mr. Thronton says, "...How about a strike?!" and her mouth just drops open! lol
she's pretty awesome!
lacrosseplayer49 1 year ago 2
I just realised that Fanny's humming the theme from North and South (the one played at the end of episode 1) as she write the invitations!
mimimirwitch 1 year ago
in the book...Higgins isn't the ring leader of the strike is he??
Dancermaniac47 1 year ago
lol fanny.
RealCheeseOnly 1 year ago
Me! You can form an attachment to me! XD
Ninybird 1 year ago 8
Isn't Bessy great in this adaptation? She has a bit more character and humour than in the book.
MsYellowhippy 2 years ago 12
2:30...can I make that my screensaver?
Sarcastic07 2 years ago 8
me too plz!
myfaeriegirl 2 years ago
@Sarcastic07 know what you mean, *swoon*
Charapova100 1 year ago
@Charapova100 lol
Sarcastic07 1 year ago
I like the scene where John defends Margaret to his mother and sister. His expressions are so intriguing.
DiscoLemonade11 2 years ago 36
@DiscoLemonade11 Like a Mr.Darcy...with sheeps.
Sarcastic07 2 years ago 3
i feel so sorry for the worker with six children and a sick wife...
olooshia 2 years ago 6
no Bessy is his daughter
wincipoet 2 years ago
omg i love Mr. Higgins i think is his name - the strike leader - amazing thinking, loved how he said no voilence - they expect us to act like animals -
evilpride21 2 years ago 8
he looks like mark strong and she looks like a brunette sophia myles
giftwraap 2 years ago 2
the words for "North and South" are similar too!
TooJubeJM1 2 years ago
Ooooo and now he stands up for her! I'm really, truly starting to like this man.... I admit that first time he appeared I thought he was an ass, hot as hell, but an ass..... now I'm quite falling in love! XD
SatinBlade 2 years ago 204
LOL I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU!
britnicoley 2 years ago
@SatinBlade hahah I love your wording. An ass, hot as hell, but an ass.
Sarcastic07 2 years ago 2
@SatinBlade starting only??? im already like undescribly and deeply in love with him :) hes just toooooo imperfect to not be loved!! ;P if that makes sense lol
mariarochester 1 year ago
@SatinBlade :If you read the book the beating at the beginning never happens (probably the segment where you thought him an ass!) The only reason it's added is to create a quick conflict between Margaret and Thornton. In the novel the conflict slowly develops around dsiagreement in their opinions. And the book is fantastic!
GuisborneAdmirer 1 year ago
@SatinBlade i agree with "hot as hell"
veralcina 1 year ago
Thornton's sis is so silly(whoa, nice alliteration. lol). She's a total snob but she's such an airhead that it comes across as comical
tiffers1912 2 years ago 16
it like what the daughter is humming. lol
MiaIkumi 2 years ago 6
Notice Fanny is humming the theme songs for North and South!!! nice :)
iraqilynn 2 years ago 28
@iraqilynn omg it is...wow all i remembered was that it was suuuupppeerr annoying haha
71montypython 1 year ago
@71montypython lol she is an awesome actress though right? She convinced all of us that shes annoying :P
iraqilynn 1 year ago
his sis is such a be-otch
r5q5is10 2 years ago 12
isnt the sister tanya branning???
RadReb5 2 years ago 2
Thank you!!!! I was thinking i recognised her and i that it was from eastenders!
BeckusTitheroff 2 years ago
It's true, baised on their history, Mrs. Thornton has a right to be so proud of her son. The daughter, now, she didn't do so well with, that girl is insufferable.
sallyannerenee 2 years ago 13
I suppose maybe her mother overlooked her a bit with focusing on her son so just let her wander and form her own opinions and impressions of things and probably never noticed until later on that she has turned out slightly ridiculous
braceyfaceanimegurl 2 years ago 10
I may be the only one who thinks this but I really like Mrs. Thornton. She's mean and tough, but there's a good heart under all that black taffeta. How she ended up with an idiot daughter like Fanny is beyond me.
BentonRox 2 years ago 20
Agreed. I love Sinead Cusack. She and Richard Armitage have great chemistry, they really make you believe that they could be a mother and son. I still like Fanny though, she makes me laugh with her ridiculousness.
ludoviciana11 2 years ago 18
Mrs Thornton rocks, but I have to say Fanny is idiotically awesome - just love her
fictionalbitch 2 years ago 20
I agree, I mean Mr. Thorton already said that he and his family have been through hard times. The sister, however has no excuse for her vapid ways. :/
QueXseraXsera 2 years ago 17
Oh! I love the way he defends Maragret to his mother and sister!
"Complete indiffrence" Phss!
kalel229 2 years ago 139