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  • I love River, I really do, but Rose is Rose and it's hard to see how anyone could be better for the Doctor than her.

  • I kind of want to see River and Rose get into a cat fight over the Doctor. I'd be kind of torn between who to put my money on. River does have that strength, but Rose does have a few tricks up her sleeve. Either way it would be I fight to remember.

  • @hanahluck I'd see River pretty much owning Rose, and Rose ending up coming with something like "Yeah.. well.. brush your hair". Rose is dedicated, but she's not like River. I then imagine that The Doctor would stick up for Rose :3

  • thats right, river will never be rose

  • best ever

  • So, so much love. I've always slightly resented Eleven because of River just sliding into Rose's place. Thank you. This makes me believe he ever loved Rose. <3

  • I like how you contrasted the similarities and differences of Rose and River, and the River/Doctor dynamic for most of her time in the series.

  • I LUV this!! Perfect song!! That's how I feel. Sometimes I like to pretend he actually is a different character just so it won't hurt to miss them! Rose/Doctor (10, preferably) hehe

  • You nailed it with this song. Believe this is one of the best edited clips I've ever seen in this site for this fandom. Do you have anything else planned for them?

  • Thank you thank you sooo much for this video because I love to think that the Doctor can never completely move on after Rose; because he might have married River but what he and Rose had was special x

  • Lovely vid. I have nothing against River Song, even if she is abit odd, but the Doctor needs his Rose. Wonder what would happen if they met ;p...

  • @amaya2megumi I think so too x

  • Waaaaaaaah

  • I love this. It's beautiful. Team Rose everytime that's what I say!

  • I think they tried a bit too hard to make River like Rose.. I mean I only see that now in this video.... It's just my opinion but.. yeah....

  • I LOVED this. When Moffat took over it was almost like Series 1-4 never happened. I find it hard to believe that the Doctor could drop his past like a rock. He and Rose are soulmates. It's canon. The way you tied scenes together here was perfect.

  • I just bawled my eyes out. It's always been Rose. The Doctor will always love her.

  • ROSE TYLER! everytime.

  • I really want to believe that the doctor loves Rose more than he loves River, but I don't know... I don't know if he likes River because she is mysterious or if he really likes her. Personally I HATE River Song, and I wish the Doctor will never loves her as much as he loves Rose! So i'm in love with your video! She's marvellous! THANK YOU! *__*

    (and sorry for the bad English, I'm French ;))

  • Coming from the point of view of "I will never agree with this premise*, ever, ever, ever", I have to say that this is a really well-made video. I especially like the bits where River&Rose do similar things (like pointing their guns) and you compare them. And... stuff... I suck at comments, sorry.

    *Where the premise is "The Doctor still misses Rose and doesn't love River because she's not Rose. Not where the premise is "River isn't Rose" because, well, yeah.

  • Oh and what's the clip at the end where Matt Smit's crying in the TARDIS?

  • @elanamiranda Thanks for the love! <3 That clip is from s6x04, "The Doctor's Wife"

  • @eighttimesacharm Thank you (love that episode) and you're welcome! :3

  • Fjksdrewiqwksdml this video gave me chills<3

  • fantastic... absolutely amazing...

  • I hate how The Doctor married River. I love Doctor/Rose. They're perfect for each other and your video proved it!

  • I really loved this video. It's perfect, my thoughts exactly. I've been looking for this song and I can't find it anywhere. What's it called and who is it by? :)

  • this video made me and eleven/rose shipper i officially ship rose with 9, 10, and 11 and most likely every doctor to follow after 11 because Rose is the Doctor's true love forever but i still ship River/eleven haha but rose with every doctor!

  • First of hate the pair. Nothing against Rose, loved her at the time. But... that was three regenerations ago and she's goooone.

    However, amazing video, love the mix portrayals - the scenes merge very well together and the overlaping of Rose/River words very well as well as an insight into his mind XD

  • Brilliantly put together, I love it!

  • Great vid!

  • I fucking love Doctor/River, but Doctor/Rose always will have a place in my heart, and this video broke my poor little place. ):

  • There are many different kinds of love. I think the Doctor loves all of his companions in those ways. River/Doctor is great, and I really do think he loves her....But, personally, I think his true love will always be Rose. It's like when you lose someone you love and find someone else you love too after, but you still find yourself with strong feelings for the first person....Did you all get that or did I lose you? I can't tell.

  • @SophisticatedDamage I hardly imagine Eleven thinking about Rose (until now), but is impossible that he don't love her yet.

  • I'm not crying. It's just raining on my face.

  • I am ugly crying

  • I try so hard to ship River and Eleven, every time I see them I try and I try and I try, but I just don't honestly believe he loves her. I think he feels as though he sort of "has" to love her, because she keeps saying that he does but... I don't think he loves her like her loved Rose.

  • @JeniferHayley Exactly. He'll never love anyone the way he loved Rose. Rose was.... Well, the turning point of his existence. How could anyone ship River/11 over Rose/Doctor? I mean... Rose and the Doctor. Their love is legendary. Don't get me wrong, I adore River, but.. Just not with Eleven.

  • @MissusSmo I used to adore River but I just can't handle her any more. Not after 'Let's Kill Hitler' which, I think, is possibly the worst episode in New!Who history. (Alongside 'The Wedding of River Song' and 'The Girl in the Fireplace' but for different reasons). I could never quite get my head around River/Doctor. Especially after finding out that she's Amy and Rory's child. That didn't sit right with me. The only other ship I've ever shipped besides Doctor/Rose was Donna/Nine, for laughs.

  • @JeniferHayley I'm thinking the writers are trying much too hard to make River the perfect woman for the Doctor. I just.. I dunno. Donna/Nine, I have never even considered that, but that is absolutely adorable. 

  • @MissusSmo I think Moffat is trying too hard to make her badass, or something. But, then, all his female characters are always pretty weak. Don't get me wrong, he's a good writer--clever, and he writes good "monsters" and male characters, but his female characterization is awful. (Reinette, Sally, Amy, River). Even when he wrote Rose he didn't write her well and she was already established. (And Donna was slightly off in 'SinL' and 'FotD' too.) River had heaps of potential but--

  • @JeniferHayley OMG! Thank you! I've been saying the same thing for ages (that Moffat sucks at writing for female characters)! *cough* Sorry, I just had to get that off my chest.

  • @MissusSmo --Then she just became out of control. I loved her, and the mystery behind her, in 'SitL' but then it all became too obvious and then just silly when he started wibbly-wobblying all over the place. It's not that it isn't clever--it is--I just think it got out of hand for him and there's an awful lot of silly plot holes that could've easily been avoided. Also, I think his idea of a strong woman is a woman with a bad attitude and a gun and this irks me. (And is it just me or--

  • @MissusSmo --do all his female characters always have to have a love interest?) Personally, I think that Donna was the strongest companion, and possibly the most well developed (sorry Rose, sorry Martha!) and that's why I like her just that little bit more than the others. She was realistic but was also comedic, therefore her ending was perfectly heartbreaking. I think Rose is probably the next best developed character but I know she was developed solely to relate to The Doctor. --

  • @MissusSmo Sorry about these four long rants; too much to say, me. xD All that awful stuff I said about Moffat's female characters and terrible plot twists are totally made up for in Eleven, Rory and Craig though, so it's all good. And, yeah, there's something wildly (yet oddly) interesting and amusing about Nine/Donna. But then, Nine's my favourite Doctor and Donna's my favourite companion so maybe that's why I ship them! xD

  • omg River is amazing and I think him and River are amazing but Rose is just you know Rose and River can compete but you always know who will win in the end...

  • Rose NEEDS to meet eleven!

  • This is so sad, you made me actually cry.

    I want Rose back.

  • I cried ;~;

  • you actually made me like rose again.

  • so cool! Good for you. I really liked it

  • I just have never seen a scene- wedding too where it looked like the Doctor loved River, instead of a oh, thats my future huh? The wedding of'hey, don't feel bad about killing me ok? here ya go, what you want." No longing, no YAY River! So glad to see you! Flirting sure, but love? They haven't convinced me yet.

  • This is such a beautifully done video.

  • @sunsetxxwishes Thank you!! <3

  • I really don't like River/Doctor, I'm always going to ship Rose/Doctor. They are just so beautiful and it's very obvious there soulmates. I just love them. <3

  • This is lovely. I do love Doctor/River, but Doctor/Rose will always have my heart.

  • @jkrowlingfan Aww! Hugs all around! Thank you so much!

  • What episode is @1:46 from?

  • @Hadam10Rose

    That would be 6x04 - The Doctor's Wife :))

  • @eighttimesacharm Thank You :) I really need to catch up on S6... Oh well I guess I'll be watching them all over the Weekend, thanks again

  • What episode was 11 Crying in the corner?

  • I don't even like Rose, but this made me cry.

  • @GingerGallifrey Hugs all around! We just want Doc to be happy :))

  • This is exactly how I feel, thank you so much!

  • @mehcutepoison Meee too :)) Thank you for watching! <3

  • OMG OMG OMG!! THIS IS FABULOUS!! I LOVE IT!! I BECAME AN 11/ROSE SHIPPER AND WROTE A STORY ABOUT THEM! WRITING ONE WITH MY FRIEND ON FB TOO. OH AND I'M RPING ROSE AND SAID FRIEND IS THE DOCTOR AND WE ARE MARRIED!! YAY! OHH THERE IS ALSO AN 11/ROSE SHIPPER FB FAN PAGE!! I THINK THE REASON I NEVER LIKED DOCTOR/RIVER IS CAUSE IN MY MIND HE STILL LOVES ROSE!! OH AND META TEN WAS MEAN TO HER IN MY STORY SO THAT'S WHY SHE LEFT! :/

  • @ajmandmggfan I love the idea of 11/Rose :D And confess to reading copious amounts of fanfiction. For me, it's always Doctor/Rose, no matter the regeneration.

  • @eighttimesacharm I'm the exact same way!! Doctor/Rose forever!! ;)

  • BEAUTIFUL. I want to believe so hard that he was thinking of rose in A Christmas Carol at that scene. I just can't imagine it was River because he hardly knew her yet at that point.

  • @port0fcall I believe it's Rose too. I think the pain of their parting was still very fresh at that point. (:

  • so well thought out, so brilliant, ahhhh! ;) i didnt really like rose that much always thought she was a bit whiny but this makes me want her back :P

  • I watch DW now simply for the few times he mentions Rose.

    My poor, poor heart.

    THANK GOD FOR FANFICTION.

  • You know my mind!! T_ T

  • Havent watched DW in ages !! But for Rose I'll watch it again .. is she still here ? and is it still airing ?! : ))

  • @LonerCheerleader Yes its still airing. In fact it just got done airing it's sixth series. Rose, unfortunately, isn't on it anymore, though there have been quite a few references to her lately so I'm hoping that means that we'll see her in the 50th anniversary in 2013.

    '

  • I think eleven/river is better than eleven/rose but this was amazing

  • Amazing!

  • Can you please make more of these? You did a fantastic job with this. It's so believable. Plus it makes me miss Rose so much. 

  • Rose looked into the Tardis, beat that!!! lol! I think why some of us are having trouble with River is because we havn't watcher her fall in love with the Doctor yet, or at least in a way that Rose did. Because of the time jumbleness you don't see her 'fall in love' with the Doctor, it is hard for me to be a shipper anyway.

  • I'm a crazy Eleven/River fan, but this video was amazing! Even if I didn't agree with it :)

  • Sorry to Doctor/River shippers, but I don't think their relationship is anything like the Doctor and Rose's relationship. I don't believe the Doctor loves River (yes, as a friend, but nothing more). They were pretty much forced together and he had no choice but to "marry" her (it wasn't a real wedding). Whereas the Doctor and Rose were truly in love and that was obvious from the start. I can't agree enough with the title of this video, River will never be Rose. But that's just my opinion. :)

  • @ownssmyheart I completely agreee with you!!

  • @SasuSakufan109 :) I'm a huge Doctor/Rose shipper, haha.

  • @ownssmyheart Same so glad to hear Im not the only one holding on  : )

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  • What an amazing video. It's a really different perspective. Great Job!

  • my poor shipper heart

  • @Nervoustruth Ohh I know :D Feel the same.

  • You just made a new fan of eleven/rose :) Great video!

  • @Irmalicious That's what I like to hear ;) Thanks!!

  • this is beautiful:')

  • @twilighsagatwerd Thank you!!

  • Thank you. Thank you for making me tear up and get my eyes all blurry and sad. Just. Thank you.

  • @xXRishati Awww! :D Thank youu!!

  • I love this video! you've done an amazing job! (:

  • @TaxxieLove Thank you!!

  • Liked and favorited....THE BEST Rose and Doctor vid ever!!! And I love the song, who sings it and whats the name of it?

  • @pacified149 Thanks so much!! It's by Snob Scrilla, and ironically, the song is actually known as "The Song With No Title" :)

  • I love this amv I love rose ! do you think ever think of rose when hes around river or do you think he still thinks of her? she did appear in the head bang in the lodger so thats gotta be something ya?

  • Also, if River and Rose ever met, Rose would probably be a little jealous in the beginning, and both would have certain doubts, (Rose: OMG, there will be other after me! River: Oh, he seemed so happy back then, I only got to exist because this happyness ended :( )but I'm sure that, River not being the jealous type and Rose being essentially a nice person, they would certainly become friends after a Rocky start and kick ass together. (Think "School Reunion")

  • @KendrixTermina This video isn't bashing River. For one, it's a fan video so @eighttimesacharm should be credited for her creativity and amazing editing skills. For two, it's pretty much showing the difference between how The Doctor acted around Rose & how he does around River. Honestly, The Doctor doesn't come across as loving River like he did Rose though perhaps he'll grow into it. That's nothing against her character, it's just how the storyline's been written and the difference in Doctor's.

  • @KendrixTermina I think you're wrong. Rose wouldn't be jealous. She has her own doctor. What you say is true but I think fans miss Rose/Doctor because River seems if anything, more obsessed with The Doctor than in love.

  • @TheElsewhere19 She WAS at what was her beginning - don't forget the "wrong order" thing. You can actually see the gradual character developement if you try watching stuff in approximately the right order - River drops the femme fatale thing in favour of some almost motherly personality traits and by "The Pandorica Opens", she has apparently become quite independent/ tried out other dudes("I've dated a nestene duplicate once...)... and probably decided she still likes the Doc best XD

  • @KendrixTermina Lol. Who wouldn't like the Doctor best right:)

  • Don't get me wrong, I'm a rose fan, too, but you guys need to accept that they couldn't keep the actress forever, that the show won't move forward if they have him mope over him forever and, most of all, that bringing her back over and over again would just invalidate the, you know, drama and value of what was between them. To have a meaning, a story needs an ending. Rose was never the first, or the last, or the only one (and neither is River, if course)

  • They had him be emo like, almost two seasons (Which is actually pretty close to how much time a RL person needs to get over stuff, on the statistical average about 3/4 as long as the relationship lasted), and Rose was recently referenced in "Let's kill Hitler", but the show can't be just self-references, they've gotta introduce new stuff, too, and I think River's story is equally complex, interesting and dramatic. They aren't referencing, you know, Ace or Jamie all 5min, because it wouldn't work

  • @KendrixTermina All you say is true. But we can still miss her :D

  • @eighttimesacharm Missing her is fully okay. Bashing River just because of shipping preference is not. YÄknow, you could have used any generic "Oh, it's just not the same without you and I miss you so much!" song without any need for bashing.

  • @KendrixTermina If you'd like to do your own videos, I'd love to watch them.

  • @KendrixTermina This implies in some way that the Doctor needs to move on and 'love her like you' to ever stop moping over her, or that Rose needs to be constantly brought back for the Doctor to keep thinking about her, though.

  • @KendrixTermina But Rose was the first he did right by in the end. I suppose that's something.

  • Wow this was.. beyond fantastic!

    I feel Exactly like this about River and the Doctor. She's a nice character. Really, on her own I'm starting to like her. I even love the way she's messing with the Doctor 'cause it's funny. But she'll never replace Rose.

    At least I can't imagine it. I dunno where DW is going nowdays, but Rose's love is the kind of love the Doctor needs the most.

    Beautiful video btw, I'm sure I'll come back and watch many times! x3

  • I don't just love ten and rose.. I love DOCTOR and rose.. heck she was amazing with nine too. and this video shows that she'd be great with eleven. she is the doctor's truest. river could never replace her. amazing video. possibly my fave.

  • Wow!!!! This is amazing!!!! Awesome job! Has to be the best 11/Rose video that I've seen here. Well done! :3

  • I love this. Honestly the best Eleven/Rose video that I've seen. The scenes just hit you and you feel that even though Rose is gone he'll never forget her. Awww so good!

  • I adore this so much :) good job!

  • I absolutly love this but I love Ten & Rose more :) X

  • @Stuff0fLegend Thanks!! Ten/Rose is my favorite as well ;)

  • This was amazing. Although I am starting to like River, I still miss Rose so much!

  • @sorsaria I miss her tooo :'(

  • AMAZING! I loved how this showed even as Eleven shows interest in River, he doesn't love her the way he loved Rose, and he never will.

  • @VickiTurner24601 I agree COMPLETELY :D

  • awwww this is amazingggg, love it! x

  • @lilxgirlyxtimexlord Thanks soo much!! I'm glad you love it!! 

  • Oh my gosh this is PERFECT! I wish more people would vid this lovely pairing =P you do a fantastic job though!!

  • @misschevious123 I AGREE!! I love this couple sooo much. I refuse to let it be over :D

  • I love the beginning with the "last time you called" part and Bad Wolf!! Very very very CLEVER!! LOVED IT <3 From that part you got me hooked on the video, so great eye catcher :D

  • @OViolentDarkKnightO Thanks so much for checking it out!! You know I love your vids & love to hear what you think. :D I know there's a ton of closet Eleven/Rose vidders in our universe... they can't hide forever <3

  • I saw your commment on my channel and wanted to check out your Eleven Rose video!! I am loving it!! It's always great to see other people's manipulations and interpretations...and it's always great to watch a Eleven Rose video!! Even though making them is fun, it's nice to watch and not have to go through the effort for a change :D I love the song choice!! It's great!! And I adored your manipulations!! Great job, hope to see more Eleven Rose from you :D You do them great!!!!!!!

  • Thank you so much for making me feel SLIGHTLy better about the whole River Song situation lol

  • @IBelieveinDayDreams Haha I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way!! :D River's nice enough, but... well, she's not Rose.

  • @eighttimesacharm So truee! Rose X doctor foreverrrs

  • CREYS ;_; I miss my Rose. Eleven/Rose is amazing, and so is this video<3

  • @sablize I miss her toooo :'(( Their love is too legendary!

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