Moto Guzzi 1200 Sport vs BMW R1200R

[soobeng]

Guzzi for em anytime.

[capichef54]

qu'est-ce qu'on en a à foutre de la tronche du blaireau, c'est les motos qui nous intéressent!!!

[RicardoSS85]

OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE!!! 240kg dry weight for the Guzzi? What the hell is that?? My Street Triple has the same power and has a 189kg wet weight. And that BMW is a lard-ass itself, 223kg wet weight. Useless.

[BlueFatalis]

@RicardoSS85 street triple is a chain drive, well oiled chains like yours (not rusted to hell) give better performance than shaft drive, but shaft drive is more reliable, also the bmw's boxer engine has opposing pistons that helps cancel out vibrations giving a smoother bike.

[RicardoSS85]

@BlueFatalis Man, that does not justify the 65 kg more of the Guzzi in any way, and it hardly justifies 34 kg more of the BMW (I'm talking about wet weights).

[BlueFatalis]

@RicardoSS85 you need to also think about the engine size adding more weight, the engine was probably de-tuned to improve longevity, + the frames of the bikes were probably made for strength and not for weight reduction, i can see why the guzzi would be considered an obese bike, but man cut the BMW some slack ?

[reblo111]

i know it dont matter but the bmw looks shit compared to the Guzzi, sorry germans your taste in aesthetics is shit :S

[NULUSIOS]

@reblo111 I can suggest a good eye doctor



[groshdgrosh]

I read somewhere that the Berlin police are now riding MG Norge 8V.

[sooupdragon]

Put an Akrapovic can on the BMW and fly around feeling like a Messerschmitt pilot in WW2. Get the Guzzi and enjoy taking it back to the dealer for warranty claims every month.

[zackworrell]

History speaks for itself. During WWII HD made a bike that was designed after the BMW with the flat twin. They didn't copy anything from Italy, Britain, or Russia. The Russians did the exact same thing. BMW is German engineering at it's finest.

Regarding sales numbers BMW R bikes blow away Guzzi's. They beat Ducati too. It doesn't mean they are the all time best, but sales figures say a lot. HD in the US could eat all of the Euro bike makers lunch, but Harley's suck.

[cota2472000]

i don't get the same feeling from a Bmw as i do a Moto Guzzi.I have 3 Guzzis now and love them all

[Corazzata69]

I never had a MG before my Breva. MG is more of an intelligent an performant bike. In it you can find passion. This vibration coming from the V-cylinders gives to me a nice feeling. No if you are a Japanese bike user, you can not understand, but old BMW user can. Today, even if BMW is a very good bike, is seems more and more Japanese, to much perfect. If I could image MG as a woman, it is the woman that make you enjoy in the bed! ;-)

[montelatici]

Sorry, I like the Guzzi.

[Boabiegringo]

@montelatici why apologise? Everybody loves Guzzi! It's a real bike :-) not a capuccino maker!

Ciao

[warp65]

Guzzi dry 229kg Bmw dry 198kg Hmm that is lighter but I would still go for the Guzzi,

[PALIOS33MK]

this is how europeans think of a tourer! :)

[larrytx01]

The Moto Guzzi is a shaped like a svelte Italian mistress. The BMW is a hairy ass German in lederhosen.

[cmkooi]

what bad sound. can hardly hear a thing..

[hedgehogoggles]

BM every time over a Guzzi. If I'd wanted to ride on something agricultural I'd have become a farmer.

[alleywatson]

yup , the older boxers just go on n on

[Vizcaio]

italian design and passion for two wheels... and I'm not italian... but I would go guzzi anyday! seem's like everyone has a BMW these days....

[mguyvig]

Much more to go wrong on the BM. My mate has one, and it spends more time at the dealers than it does on the road. My Guzzi, however, has been brilliant.

[guzziboy007]

guzzi better than bum wiper

[KutWrite]

Can't hear you when you talk toward the bike (away from the camera).

I think you said you liked the BMW better.

[rdbandkab]

Moto Guzzi = passion

[MegaTroyhamilton]

I ride a Moto Guzzi. nothing else.

[s1914]

I've had both these bikes and the BM is leagues apart. Considerably lighter, faster, more fun, more reliable (so far!) and, at the risk of sounding really boring, very economical. Only if you were a committed Guzzista would you pick the V-twin.

[deweypug]

Once you ride a Moto Guzzi, you will always love 'em... they have a character that no other bike has...

[505197]

@deweypug If you want to ride a bike with character then hop on my 91 R/100/GS, it has over 100,000 miles of character on it and I love it with a passion. I also have a 2000 R1100R and can't stand it in comparison. It has 7000 miles on it and I rarely ride the ill handling tiresome bike. Mainly I love the way you cn carve with the old GS, it handles so well and effortlessly. I'd be willing to give Guzzi a go, the valve train noise is tiresome on the one's I'm familiar with.

[wildebube]

I love my 1200 Sport. I rode nothing but BMWs from 1982 until I bought the Guzzi in the summer of 2009. My only regret is that I waited so long. Sure, the Beemer may be more technically competent, but there's just something about the Guzzi that makes me smile every time I ride it. And isn't that what it's really all about?

[DirkDirk1983]

BMW makes riding a bike boring....

[david292978]

i dont know much about bikes, but what ive seen so far, moto guzzi is where its at, its how real bikes are ment to be

[impalaman1962]

Moto Guzzi 2 thumbs!

[angelb650650]

yea!;) the bmw will f*ck the guzzi :D

[tutube998]

Love them both!The Beauty and the Performance.If they have a baby it should be R1200S.

[poopfartcrap]

id take a guzzi over a bmw any day. plus, bmw guys are all snobs.

[soobeng]

that BMW looked like crap beside that hot Guzzi. Guzzi over BMW for me anytime.

[tutube998]

@poopfartcrap -you take a guzzi bike or a guzzi rider?Or r u afraid that you are going to turn into poop,fart,crap if you ride a BMW?

[Monster1000SR]

You are so right!!!

but the guys are always look for the GUZZI :-))

for me, no question...the Italian way of Drive is the better way to Drive a Bike ;-)

Sport1200 Greatz from Germany

[benqler]

@poopfartcrap You are an Idiot with prejudices...

[madeinamerica650]

0:34 GAY MUSIC!

[parsnipfingers]

I'm going to be taking my bike test hence my reason for finding myself here; checking out a few bikes. I always thought there was a certain camaraderie amongst bikers but having read these comments, I now have my doubts.

By way of opinion, I have to concur with one of the posters in that both bikes look shit and personally I wouldn't want either. At the end of the day it's just an opinion and tastes are subjective.. it doesn't make someone a cock, prick or a wanker. Get a grip guys/girls.

[alienmode]

lol fuck you! we all hope you crash into a barrier

[parsnipfingers]

There's little chance of that happening because frankly I'm amazingly good at everything I do :-].  Thanks for the comment though it cracked me up - love it.

[alienmode]

lol nice. smiley face. didn't realize who i was dealing with. Yea most people agree the best attitude when learning how to ride is "im amazingly good at this before trying it"... these are the people who tend to have the safest track records and longest life spans. Here is my last piece of advice. Buy the fastest bike you can afford -- something like a used 'busa or maybe a racer replica. then you can prove to everyone that youve got the magic touch.

[ssalemi]

Buy a Guzzi Griso 8V, they are beautiful and terrific!

[SwedeStrom]

They both look like shit, but the BMW handles MUCH better. And is cheaper to own and service...

And yes, I drive the BMW...

[ssalemi]

Then Buy a Guzzi Griso 8V! It looks TERRIFIC! Easy.

[enzocat22]

Agreed total cock bike - guzzis rule

[xarcherx987]

He ignored the fact that the Guzzi is a beautiful creation and the BMW looks like a penis.

[Dejanpezdirc]

the only one who is penis is you

[disgruntldtoad]

Hahaha, i personally think they both loook like a penis, but im from America, so my opinion is biased. And no, I dont ride Harley, i dislike Harley with a passion.

[johnsenkenn]

Maybe your penis.

[jogga123]

It looks like a penis? So...you prefer the BMW.

[richardgozinya]

Sounds like a Rorschach thing to me, you see what you want to see.

[larrybird1967]

¡¡FORZA GUZZI!!...

[QER15]

BMW R1200R... IMPRESIONANTE!

[turdbandit]

Guzzi IS a class act. Its like a rolex against a Timex. He's a biased jap bike rider anyway.

[manugrancanaria]

la bmw es mucho mejor ,

[philipaviator]

@manugrancanaria parati spagnolo del cazzo

[guzzigrazzie]

have had a guzzi breva 1200 for just over a year now. brilliant bike,sounds great. beats the bm hands down.guzzi rule.

[calcolo90]

la moto guzzi è inarrivabile

[grumpiking]

I've had the BMW for over a year now, and it's a great bike w/ a lot of impressive features. Put a Remus pipe on it and it's perfect.

[20031200]

I enjoyed the short vid. Actually like both bikes. Though I'd likely favor the BMW as there's more dealer network.

[ismailkece]

Viva guzzi

[smtaylor3]

love that Guzzi

[possum193]

my dad has a moto guzzi 1200 sport and there awsome

[grumpiking]

I've had the BMW R1200R for a year now, and I wouldn't change a thing. Nothing compares with it's speed and comfort.

[looxgood]

We have to think about something here - if you are paying that much money for this class of bike - you do not go for practicality. Its all about character - so I'll go with my heart - Moto Guzzi ...But if I'm going with heart...dang...where is my Harley?

[hwy334]

gotta ride em to decide for yourself, it's very hard to compare bikes these days. Both the Guzzi and the Beamer have their own characteristics and everyone interprets their own way. Personally, I like the Guzzi better, but that's just me.

[brizzlie]

That's exactly right. There are so many bike choices these days, and reliability and comfort are always fantastic compared to the old ones. You really can't make a big mistake. Just go ride them and see what you like.

I've got a Ducati Monster, and there are plenty of "better" bikes, but who cares?! I love it and that gets me riding.

It's just great to be on two wheels! :D

[cfodk]

German engineering is superior - but manufacture quality is the same. Perhaps a little better in the Moto Guzzi. BMW's are not all "made in Germany". China is an important sub contractor.

I love the 1200 Sport :-)))))))))))))

[Hycrion]

Great comment! And by the way... BMW´s superior performance is made by the expensive "super plus+"- fuel!

[blast2003]

I would put my money on German enginnering no doubt..

[guzzigrazzie]

bought a new guzzi breva 1200 in march this year. done 10 european countrys in 2 weeks on it, 3,500 miles. great bike. have ridden the bmw r1200r, also a very good bike, but the guzzi wins on all accounts.computer as standard, comfy gel seat,does not burn any oil like the bmw (1 pint every 1,000 miles)sounds great, large 23 litre tank, over 250 miles to a tank of fuel!! say no more. will be keeping my guzzi 1200 for a long time.great all round touring bike.

[sardosfish]

come mai allora questa nostra grandissima guzzi è apprezzata piu' all'estero e in italia vende piu' la bmw che a me ,personalmente,esteticamente fa cagare veramente?

[jorges71]

Perché in Italia siamo troppo spesso dei cazzonari che seguono le mode e se qualcuno dice che la BMW è la migliore per viaggiare tutti a comprare le moto crucche...e basta con sti GS che si vedono in giro.

Guzzi Rules!!!

[zbandyt]

che moto hai jorges71??

[Zapateur]

Sum up all the extras the BMW needs to catch the Guzzi (screen, white indicators, OB COMPUTER!) and then compare the prices.

You'll soon see they are not similar anymore.

[SoloTwin]

Guzzi rock! :oD

I love my bike, so it will allways be a Guzzi.

[capidecallu]

I've have heard many BMW owners saying their bikes give little troubles. At the time Guzzi is better

[SoloTwin]

Every bike can have trouble, but my Breva is is still going strong after 50500 km (4 years old now).

I know nothing about BMW´s but my husband has owned 3 of them, but he is now a really Guzzi-fan, and now he owne two and more to come.

Guzzi have soul! ;)

[cfodk]

This guys need to do some more situps if he wants to look half decent in a suit like that :-)

[hfunction]

and the squeak of the leather was distracting LOL

[505197]

The ONLY drawback to a Beemer is restricted foot placement . CG is the name of the game when it comes to making a big bike handle , the higher the cylinders the worse it gets . And I feel no heat whatsoever on my GS , none . I doubt you can say that about a Guzzi . Beemer makes the best bike in the world . Every signifigant advance for decades has come from Germany and has largely been copied by others .

[Aeshmauniversus]

i can tell you man that you dont understand anything bout engines.

try to come to italy and maybe you can learns something, but i strongly doubt that.

[sophiegromit]

I love BOTH Guzzis and BMW's. Wish I had the money for both!

[viror76]

Guzzi is Guzzi...

[derrett250]

cant argue with the guzzi..

bikes arent about technology.

they are about style and character and tbh there arent many bikes that come close to the status of a Moto Guzzi

[PUCHITRONIX]

aprende a escribrir en castellano inlges de mierda banana, giles megan de peteros

[ilpoppante]

puchitronix nos cagamos en la lecie de la puta madre de todos los espagnoles maricones como ti

[PUCHITRONIX]

los ingleses son todos putos habla en castellano giles

[jumperboy1976]

y tu piensas que estas el mejor?? maricon

[pireus48]

the guzzi sports 1200 is beautiful but it's not a real sport bike

[mariomendoza]

Don't like the way he descibed the Guzzi as "a bit sloppy"...

[kazglasgow]

Heavy Metal Guzzi everytime. Amazing sound with a pipe. Very tidy build too from any distance. I would dote on it!

[MiG2880]

Nice bikes but insanely overpriced. I'd rather buy a Hornet..

[sporty05]

I like the Guzzi, it reminds me of my 2004 R1150R that I sold last year...I'm not crazy about the new R1200R looks, although I'm sure it's a great bike.

[CrazyAlvis]

I dunno, that BMW is quite seductive in black!

[nyarltep]

id go with the guzzi

[GrappaLux]

tried both. got the guzzi. much sexier. 40k km till now. no trubles

[grumpiking]

How does it lack character? I'm being serious.

[grumpiking]

I'm alright with the Beemers sound. I guess quality is character for me, on this one. All the power to you though, I love Ducati too.

[MoraleHazard]

My R1150R sounds like a sewing maching. My friend's straight-piped R1150R sounded like an angry sewing machine. But, all-in-all, I like the quiet of BMW for commuting purposes, no waking the neighbors early in the morning.

[grumpiking]

not waking the neighbors, I'm always grateful as well. I love my r1200r. it sounds fine going fast, anyhow:)

[stratoguzzi]

Guzzis got that sound that won't quit.You may buy it on that alone.

[HDridr2000]

I could have bought either.. I chose the RR hands down. It's simply a better bike. I do like Guzzis, but the Sport is simply no match for the RR.

[devildog5001]

No contest, Guzzi for me too!! I've owned both, BMW is long gone, Guzzi is like my first born... BMW reliability, give me a brake, you know nothing of Guzzi reliability or you wouldn't make such a comment. A Guzzi will outlive a BMW any day... just ask someone who knows.

[tapi20]

moto guzzi....Very good!!!!!!!!

[powersliding]

guzzi's not a transverse vee twin mate

[nickwarne]

I own an R1200R and got to ride a Guzzi Sport 2800kms (~1650 miles for the flat earthers) last month. You'd have to have a big heart and a small brain to pick the Guzzi.

[HDridr2000]

Good clip, wish it was longer. Glad I bought a R12R, but I wouldn't kick the Guzzi outta bed...

[BeemerBike212]

try to get parts or find a Guzzi dealer in the USA. Yes the Goose have some character but for twisties, touring, city riding, power, and a heck of a lot of character and reliability I'll take the BMW and that's exactly what I did this past Aug. Love my R12R!

[beastinblack]

guzzle that guzzie!

[mike1981cbr]

guzzi for me.