I'M WONDER THIS POOR COUNTRY FROM WHERE IT GETS OR FIND MONEY FOR HIS HUGE PROPAGANDA.WHO SUPPORT THEM TO SPREAD ALL THESE ANTI-HISTORICAL POSITIONS.WHO IS HIDE ON HIS BACK.THESE DESPERATE PEOPLE ,WHO GOT THE SAME WAGES OF BANGLADESH THEY DIDN'T PASS YET THE 19thCENTURY.THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTOOD THAT WITHOUT GREEKS THEY'RE DEAD,AND DEAD MEN NO TELL A STORIES.
Macedonians are referred as "Macedonian Slavs", this is because of Greek vs. Slavic (Serb and Bulgarian) rivalry over Macedonia. As was the case with the ancient Macedonians and their close relations with the Thracians and Illyrians than with the ancient Greeks. The Greeks before the partition of Macedonia, were indeed a small minority, only 10% from the total population. This fact certainly does not give them the "copyright" of the name MACEDONIA.
hours to go gay and ugly Skopjan; fucking race, both fighters will disappear if you send all of the impoverished state. Albanian breed some time to come, and from there if you find them there will be no mercy.
hours to go gay and ugly Skopjan; fucking race, both fighters will disappear if you send all of the impoverished state. Albanian breed some time to come, and from there if you find them there will be no mercy.
hours to go gay and ugly Skopjan; fucking race, both fighters will disappear if you send all of the impoverished state. Albanian breed some time to come, and from there if you find them there will be no mercy.
U are a bastard nation and u try to steal history from greece u never stand against anyone all the time u was the kities who take blowjob from the other to protect them u do that to otoman empire to germans and now to usa their politics support u but their historians not is like to say that platon and perikles was from persian.U DONT EVEN KNOW A SINGLE ANCIENT WORD AS ALEXANDER USE TO HIS SCRIPTS AND HIS STATUES. BARBARIANS BASTARDS
FYROM = FYROV ... V FOR VARDASKA.. YOU ARE ALL SLAVS ... ACCEPT THE TRUTH AND LIVE WITH THAT..... PROUD TO BE GREEK 5000 YEARS OF HISTORY MACEDONIA IS GREEK ...
Instead of stealing a history slav-macedonians should find pride in their own heritage. I am pretty sure that slavic people have a lot to be proud of on their own and shouldn't need a relation with a greek hero such as Alexander in order to feel good about themselves. History is not a matter of opinion. It's a series of facts and cannot be changing just because it fits our desires. END
Today we have 3 kinds of macedonians. Greeks (macedonians). Bulgarians and FYROM (slav-macedonians). Except from the greeks the other are slavs of various origins that "derserve" to have the "macedonian" part intheir name because they lived for many years in the area. Same way I would be called greek-american if I lived in USA for many years (or generations). That ofcourse wouldn't make me a descendant of Abraaham Lincoln.
After the end of the war Greece corrected the situation by re-establishing the greek authority within its borders and ofcourse send all the slav settlers back to their own countries (that's the so called cleansinge we did). During that time there was animosity as far as national minorities was concerned as they were seen as nazi co-operators.
During the WW2 and the german occupation of Greece national minorities living in northern Greece co-operated with the nazis as it was their chance to gain power over the native greeks. The bulgarization of northern Greece was extensive and hundreds of thousand slavs were brought in Greece and given land and houses.
Because of the glory behind the name "macedonian" all people living in that area (greeks, albanians, bulgarians etc) claimed that they were descedndants of Alexander the great etc. That doesn't change the fact that Alexander was greek and that is why he spread the greek civilization and not the albanian or some other. That is why he established greek cities all over his empire and gave birth to the hellinistic period.
Modern Greece was established in 1830. Before that we were occupied by Ottomans. Being occupied doesn't mean we didn't exist. Athens was just one of the greek city-states and not the whole of Greece. Macedonia during roman and ottoman occupation was only a geographical term and in its territory lived greeks, ottomans, albanians, bulgarians, jews and many others.
Also, seriously everyone needs to take a moment to locate the caps lock button on their key board and turn it off. No one is going to pay attention to you if you're constantly, virtually, screaming at them.
Uhm.... all the Macedonian artifacts Gruevski digs up and pawns off as his own...have GREEK writing on them. FYROM's slavic ancestors invaded the region around 5th century AD for the first time but the region has exchanged hands many times since then. FYROM nationalists are ethnic Bulgarians who hide and oppress their own Bulgarian heritage.
“We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian." - Krste Misirkov
IF THEY WERE ONLY WORKERS SEEKING FOR A JOB IN GREECE, (AND CAME VIA BULGARIA) HOW COME THEY "FOUND THEMSELVES" ON THE BATTLE FIELD ? IF THEY REALLY INTENTIONED TO GO TO GREECE TO WORK, THEY WOULD BE RATHER LOOKING FOR A BUS /TRAIN, THAN TO PARTICIPATE INTO MILITARY ACTIONS, WITH GUNS AND BOMBS ?
How can Greeks be Macedonian? Pick one. You also want to be Turkish and Albanian. You must be so ashamed of who you are. First of all you fought alongside Persians against Alexander. Second find the word Greece or Hellas anywhere on a map prior to 1869. Its not there. Greeks are all Athenians that are now ashamed of what they are so they want the pride of being a Macedonian . Ask the Turks we faught them for 500years as macedonians and they proof for you. Its imbarassing to be greek ahhh.
@fkdgreeks you're dumb--NO ONE WANTS TO BE GREEK!! Like your claims on Macedonia, your country, economy, and government are a lie. You lied your way into the EU and had to be bailed out when your lies came to light.
No matter what you pull out to support your claims there is one simple fact that cannot be refuted. Macedonians are MACEDONIAN! That is our national identity.
Unlike greeks who try to claim greece AND Macedonia. Which makes your post above pretty f-ing ironic.
An irony many FYROM nationalists have missed is by hiding their ethnic Bulgarian heritage and pretending to be "Macedonian" they are effectively claiming to be Greek (as ancient Macedonians were self-identifying Greeks)
@lalalabeatz you poor litlle guy thats what they told you and i dont blame you for anything..you are just a
victim...your identity is not a Macedonian so be proud for your true identity..search and you will find...we are proud and have every right to be because we earned it..
There is no map showing a sovereign FYROM before 1991. It was created by Tito in 1944 by renaming Vardar Yugoslavia "Macedonia" and the people there "ethnic Macedonians". Prior to this period the vast majority of people in that region identified ethnically as Bulgarians ("Macedonians" only in the regional sense like an Arab can be an Israeli citizen but isn't ethnically Jewish). All FYROM nationalist's are essentially doing is substituting the word "Bulgarian" with "Macedonian".
dear "mythbuster", in 1918 after the Balkan Wars, the National Geographic Magazine, did a research on the nationalities living in the area of the former ottoman macedonia area. 18 nationalities were reperted. Nowhere was reference to "macedonian" nation. Even Illyrians, Dalmatians, Armenians and Jews were reported, beside the major ones (greeks, bulgarians, serbs, turks etc.). Distortion of scientific and historical facts remains strong, nowdays.
@Galiaroth go fuck yourself, cunt. i'm not even macedonian to say this, it's because i've studied so much history throughout my life from real sources and greece just fucks it up and makes it harder because of all the bullshit they've written. I'm 100% Australian and i don't even know a single Macedonian sou.
So if you were implying i'm macedonian and i'm just posting random bullshit that doesn't make sense, are you implying my australian ethnicity is greek to?
@Galiaroth you should for supporting propaganda and killing off the reputation of a whole race for your stingy ass pathetic country. My taxes go higher because of all your bullshit to. I am actually doing actuary at the top uni in australia you idiot, i believe i'm more intelligent then you and your whole fucking race put together. But see... Colloquial, immature language on you tube is not so different to what you idiots did to an amazing country.
i literally shit myself laughing when i saw this. You biased pieces of shit. I get my information/history from real historians. Not fuckwit greeks like yourself and other pathetic souls. All the Macedonian sources i read are from EXPERIENCED english, itanlian, german etc historians.
go limit someone elses life because of slowing down how he has to learn history now because if yous
@ze1nikO another idiotic comment as usual....nothing important whatsoever in your 3 comments..you can call my name yo can say everything you can do all that stuff still.you re useless..i'm far more educated than you and do you know why??ive studied fyroms books i ve studied greek books i va also studied american ones and german ones...and i have realized exactly whats going on...you on the other hand.....useless...
@Galiaroth Funny how you say that, when i'm doing actuary in university, and your far more intelligent than me? baha, it's funny because you idiots rely on bullshit virtual sources of history posted by idiots like yourself on youtube, wikipedia and other self-hosted websites. That is the reason why my disgusting message threatens idiots like yourself. Honestly mate, it doesn't matter if it's not written by greeks, they can still be payed to be biased, which is what the greek gov pays for aftral
@ze1nikO man y are so sure about everything.let me advise you that when you are sure about something.then you fall.and thats a fact.you are saying i havent realized how the world works and that money is everything.well not only you are wrong about Greece biased history but you are the victim of huge propaganda believing that we are the victims..i dont care if you are on university..been there done that...the fact is you are just another victim..
@Galiaroth I am sure about everything because i've studied history all my life, i have the degree rights to become an engineer, pilot, and run money for head banks in countries. I am not a fool that can be fooled by stupidity.. I know when something isn't right, and i know from like presentations and debates over this topic, the Greeks ARE, the ones creating this propaganda. There was history at one point... But the greeks DID cover it, along with other countries that supported it.raed next post
@Galiaroth I am sure about everything because i've studied history all my life, i have the degree rights to become an engineer, pilot, and run money for head banks in countries. I am not a fool that can be fooled by stupidity.. I know when something isn't right, and i know from like presentations and debates over this topic, the Greeks ARE, the ones creating this propaganda. There was history at one point... But the greeks DID cover it, along with other countries that supported it. next post>
@Galiaroth after all*, hence the fact, that is the reason why taxes are increased. I'm speaking about old, experienced and completely unbiased historians. Funny how you still don't know how the world works.. Money is everything mate.. But in the end.. We'll just have to see who is correct? I know i am.. The real history is being uncovered and the amount of bullshit history Greeks have produced, half of it doesn't match up/ make sense.
@ze1nikO you are wrong abou the real history being suddenly uncovered.the real history is being covered.i can saw you facts.books tha the turks studied 20 YEARS AGO and books tha they study now completely different.YOUR WORDS PROVE YOU ARE ANTI-GREECE.HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT WE ARE BULLSHIT.YOU UNEDUCATED.WE HAVE ONE OF THE GREATEST HISTORIES AND MOST ANCIENT ONES.AND YOU ARE CALLING US BULLSHITS?DICKHEAD?YOU SERIOUS?YOU ARE SPEAKING NOW BECAUSE WE INVENTED DEMCORASY-FREEDOM OF SPEECH.B L I N D
@Galiaroth Real history hasn't been suddenly covered. The Greek government has tried to eliminate the Macedonian race through many acts/projects, the Turkish are the ones who then helped the Macedonians recover. The Greeks didn't allow Macedonians speak macedonian, they changed the Macedonians and the dead macedonians names and surnames, (they even changed the names of the dead).. It's actually funny because you are from greece, i'm not surprised what you said has been said.
@Galiaroth I am sure about everything because i've studied history all my life, i have the degree rights to become an engineer, pilot, and run money for head banks in countries. I am not a fool that can be fooled by stupidity.. I know when something isn't right, and i know from like presentations and debates over this topic, the Greeks ARE, the ones creating this propaganda. There was history at one point... But the greeks DID cover it, along with other countries that supported it. next post>
@ze1nikO Why wouldn't they support it? They all get land and money out of this anyways. Why were the greeks at one point trying to eliminate the macedonian race? They killed, tortured, changed their names to greek names (even changed the name of the dead; on tombstones etc), didn't allow them to speak Macedonian. There are more facts but unnessesary to state. There is no way i can state what i want to state in a youtube comment. But i can tell you i am not wrong about Greeks being BULLSHIT
@ze1nikO .you can keep your opinion you can express it..but .THERE IS ONLY ONE RIGHT AND ONE WRONG IN EVERY SITUATION..TRUST ME GREEK POLITICIANS MAYBE THE WORST BUT THAT DOESNT CHANGE THE FACT DAMN STRAGHIT...MACEDONIA IS GREEK..THESE THINGS WITH THE TOMBSTONES YOU ARE SAYING ARE FICTIONAL..YOU ARE IN A UNIVERSITY SO YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT THE 371 UNIVERSITY HISTORY TEACHERS SENDING OBAMA A LETTER WITH THEIR SIGNATURES SUPPORTING GREECE WITH THE NAME..EVERYTHING N ANCIENT MACEDONIA WAS GREEK....
@Galiaroth it's not an opinion, it's fact. And no, Macedonians are from Makeon. Greece was formed in 1982, it was originally called Athens... a small town to be precise.. Greece was formed with a mix of Albanians, Valks, and so on.. Macedonia is way older then Greece, that is why they have to say Macedonia was greek in the first place. But no it was Makedon the land of the Macedonians, It was called Athens not Greece at the time.
@Galiaroth Yes there is right and wrong. A nation stealing another nations heritage and culture, is WRONG. No it is not fictional, it is proven and the Turkish government can confirm this. 371 university historian teachers sending Obama letters, source please, where did you get that information? otherwise it's pure bullshit or once again, money money is money Greece pays MONEY, it's proven they do to the American government then small nations follow the mother country..
@ze1nikO If anything, Greece is Macedonian, there is no way MACEDONIA, can be Greek. LOOK IN YOUR ORTHODOX BIBLE for gods sake. At the back of it where they show the maps. Your own country is a small hill so called Athens when Macedonia is a huge block of land. Are you denying your religion? Macedonia took over athens in the first empire, so in that case, you could legitimately say Athenians (GREEKS) are Macedonians.
@Galiaroth Yes the Greek government did attempt to eliminate the Maedonian race. But why would they do this if there's nothing to hide? Why would they do such a thing when they know the consequences of being caught would create chaos. This isn't a game mate, i have read more history specifically then the words you have read throughout your entire LIFE. What you see is published by greeks, shown to you by greeks, and so on. What i see is published to the world by old, expeirnecd, REAL historians
@Galiaroth Greek government DID attempt to eliminate the Maedonian race. But why would they do this if there's nothing to hide? Why would they do such a thing when they know the consequences of being caught would create chaos. This isn't a game mate, i have read more history specifically then the words you have read throughout your entire LIFE. What you see is published by greeks, shown to you by greeks, and so on. What i see is published to the world by old, expeirnecd, REAL historians
@Galiaroth Greek government DID attempt to eliminate the Maedonian race. But why would they do this if there's nothing to hide? Why would they do such a thing when they know the consequences of being caught would create chaos. This isn't a game mate, i have read more history specifically then the words you have read throughout your entire LIFE. What you see is published by Greeks, shown to you by Greeks, and so on. What i see is published to the world by old, experienced, REAL historians
Why do we Hellenes keep on giving to these Asshole Slave ? Enough is Enough .. Lets just buy it out of existences . We all ready run most of it !! Or just walk in and take what belongs to us as the Serbians said in 1993 !! Why do we sit hear take this Grap from dastards like these ?
yea look for your self find me a map that says greek older than few hundred years but yet you can find a map about MACEDONIA every where in every country LONG LIVE MACEDONIA
Boskovski was defending Macedonia from the terorists which were financed from NATO(UK,Greece...).Have you forgot the Etnic cleaning in Aegen Macedonia 1905-1948 dont tell me it was civil war...what about the assistence in Srenica with the Serbs???
@MKDarko YOU ARE A LIER!THIS NEVER HAPPENED NOONE REFERS TO THIS THAT YOU'RE MENTIONED!MACEDONIANS ARE GREEKS YOU ARE A HUGE LIER! ALEXANDER THE GREAT WAS SPOKEN GREEK AND HE TRANSFERED THE GREEK CIVILAZATION TO THE HOLE KNOWN WORLD!YOUARE A FUCKING COMMUNIST LIER LIKE ALL THE OTHER BALKAN PEOPLE! THE ONLY THING THAT YOU ARE DOING IS TO STEEL THE GLORIOUS GREEK HISTORY AND REPRESENT THIS AS YOURS!
Simply NAZI agenda...so sad you have to recognize the minorities because you're so broked that you should sell the islands to Tyrkey ang Germany...jajajajaja
You are hanging on a straw motherfucker.your time is NEAR.And for the fuckwit that put the video together go back to NON greek school asshole so you can learn the real history.
ooooo im shakeing in my boots borrowed you say .Time is that like when Greece borrows money with interest from the Eu every year to prop up its shitty economy, I would kick your broke asses out of the EU and force you ass bandits to bring back the Drachma and pay back all of your debt in Euro with interest you big nosed hairy gypsyes . Pay back all of your debt scince 1981 when the EU made the mistake of letting in you Ethiopian Barstads . Fuck this is boring don't waste time anymore bitch.
Greece is Broke start picking those olives, if you placed all the olives in greece in a line from earth to the moon and repeated it a million times and then mearsured the distance and times it to the power of infinity it still wouldn't be enough olives to even pay off a quater of Greece's debt haha your broke is say kick you broke ass out of the EU dead weight who needs it.
Love your work still working out of your mothers basement is see hows your wife or should i say your sister keep up the good work give my best to your father or should i say uncle.
@cajceto yeah from a real bulgarian..hahaha..just for your information a true macedonian whould never say fuck Greece...you re just a low level human being and besides me being a philanthropist it is such a pity for you to be so stupid....just open your mind or sleep....
I'M WONDER THIS POOR COUNTRY FROM WHERE IT GETS OR FIND MONEY FOR HIS HUGE PROPAGANDA.WHO SUPPORT THEM TO SPREAD ALL THESE ANTI-HISTORICAL POSITIONS.WHO IS HIDE ON HIS BACK.THESE DESPERATE PEOPLE ,WHO GOT THE SAME WAGES OF BANGLADESH THEY DIDN'T PASS YET THE 19thCENTURY.THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTOOD THAT WITHOUT GREEKS THEY'RE DEAD,AND DEAD MEN NO TELL A STORIES.
pyraixmhs 2 weeks ago
MONKEYDONIAN SLAVES
51166115 1 month ago
Fuck Monkeydonians of Fyrom :@
Prixoarxidis 2 months ago
Macedonia1ful 2 months ago
UBIJ, ZAKOLI ZA DA GRK NE POSTOI!!!!!
gomak5000 2 months ago
στο τελος θα μας πειτε το ποτε θα κανει ξαστερια το εγραψε σκοποιανος χαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχα.................
vetsjohnny 2 months ago
i fuck MONKEY-donians from skopje
Patriot45or88 2 months ago
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hours to go gay and ugly Skopjan; fucking race, both fighters will disappear if you send all of the impoverished state. Albanian breed some time to come, and from there if you find them there will be no mercy.
MACEDONIA Famous OF ALEXANDER THE COUNTRY.
johnvolume 2 months ago
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hours to go gay and ugly Skopjan; fucking race, both fighters will disappear if you send all of the impoverished state. Albanian breed some time to come, and from there if you find them there will be no mercy.
MACEDONIA Famous OF ALEXANDER THE COUNTRY.
johnvolume 2 months ago
hours to go gay and ugly Skopjan; fucking race, both fighters will disappear if you send all of the impoverished state. Albanian breed some time to come, and from there if you find them there will be no mercy.
MACEDONIA Famous OF ALEXANDER THE COUNTRY.
johnvolume 2 months ago
Fyrom=bullshitartists
slida65 2 months ago
U are a bastard nation and u try to steal history from greece u never stand against anyone all the time u was the kities who take blowjob from the other to protect them u do that to otoman empire to germans and now to usa their politics support u but their historians not is like to say that platon and perikles was from persian.U DONT EVEN KNOW A SINGLE ANCIENT WORD AS ALEXANDER USE TO HIS SCRIPTS AND HIS STATUES. BARBARIANS BASTARDS
haris4525 2 months ago
LOLZ VERY GOOD PROPAGANDA VIDEO. MONKEYDONIANS YOU ARE SHIT WITH NO HISTORY AND YOU TRY TO STEAL GREEK HISTORY..POOR MONKEYS
PaokOrDead 2 months ago
FYROM = FYROV ... V FOR VARDASKA.. YOU ARE ALL SLAVS ... ACCEPT THE TRUTH AND LIVE WITH THAT..... PROUD TO BE GREEK 5000 YEARS OF HISTORY MACEDONIA IS GREEK ...
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PROUD TO BE MACEDONIAN
UNITED MACEDONIA
MACEDONIA TO MACEDONIANS
jolemak 4 months ago
@jolemak UNITED ALBANIA
artemis20001000 3 months ago
Instead of stealing a history slav-macedonians should find pride in their own heritage. I am pretty sure that slavic people have a lot to be proud of on their own and shouldn't need a relation with a greek hero such as Alexander in order to feel good about themselves. History is not a matter of opinion. It's a series of facts and cannot be changing just because it fits our desires. END
Hypnotized81 4 months ago 16
Today we have 3 kinds of macedonians. Greeks (macedonians). Bulgarians and FYROM (slav-macedonians). Except from the greeks the other are slavs of various origins that "derserve" to have the "macedonian" part intheir name because they lived for many years in the area. Same way I would be called greek-american if I lived in USA for many years (or generations). That ofcourse wouldn't make me a descendant of Abraaham Lincoln.
Hypnotized81 4 months ago 13
After the end of the war Greece corrected the situation by re-establishing the greek authority within its borders and ofcourse send all the slav settlers back to their own countries (that's the so called cleansinge we did). During that time there was animosity as far as national minorities was concerned as they were seen as nazi co-operators.
Hypnotized81 4 months ago
During the WW2 and the german occupation of Greece national minorities living in northern Greece co-operated with the nazis as it was their chance to gain power over the native greeks. The bulgarization of northern Greece was extensive and hundreds of thousand slavs were brought in Greece and given land and houses.
Hypnotized81 4 months ago 2
Because of the glory behind the name "macedonian" all people living in that area (greeks, albanians, bulgarians etc) claimed that they were descedndants of Alexander the great etc. That doesn't change the fact that Alexander was greek and that is why he spread the greek civilization and not the albanian or some other. That is why he established greek cities all over his empire and gave birth to the hellinistic period.
Hypnotized81 4 months ago 4
Modern Greece was established in 1830. Before that we were occupied by Ottomans. Being occupied doesn't mean we didn't exist. Athens was just one of the greek city-states and not the whole of Greece. Macedonia during roman and ottoman occupation was only a geographical term and in its territory lived greeks, ottomans, albanians, bulgarians, jews and many others.
Hypnotized81 4 months ago
Also, seriously everyone needs to take a moment to locate the caps lock button on their key board and turn it off. No one is going to pay attention to you if you're constantly, virtually, screaming at them.
~Macedonians Forever, Greek NEVER~
lalalabeatz 1 year ago
@lalalabeatz
Uhm.... all the Macedonian artifacts Gruevski digs up and pawns off as his own...have GREEK writing on them. FYROM's slavic ancestors invaded the region around 5th century AD for the first time but the region has exchanged hands many times since then. FYROM nationalists are ethnic Bulgarians who hide and oppress their own Bulgarian heritage.
“We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian." - Krste Misirkov
GemistusPletho 5 months ago
IF THEY WERE ONLY WORKERS SEEKING FOR A JOB IN GREECE, (AND CAME VIA BULGARIA) HOW COME THEY "FOUND THEMSELVES" ON THE BATTLE FIELD ? IF THEY REALLY INTENTIONED TO GO TO GREECE TO WORK, THEY WOULD BE RATHER LOOKING FOR A BUS /TRAIN, THAN TO PARTICIPATE INTO MILITARY ACTIONS, WITH GUNS AND BOMBS ?
makedonijaljubovmoja 1 year ago
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@makedonijaljubovmoja you really are stupid....
Galiaroth 5 months ago
THESE ARE PASKISTANIS
THEODORIEUS 1 year ago
How can Greeks be Macedonian? Pick one. You also want to be Turkish and Albanian. You must be so ashamed of who you are. First of all you fought alongside Persians against Alexander. Second find the word Greece or Hellas anywhere on a map prior to 1869. Its not there. Greeks are all Athenians that are now ashamed of what they are so they want the pride of being a Macedonian . Ask the Turks we faught them for 500years as macedonians and they proof for you. Its imbarassing to be greek ahhh.
fkdgreeks 1 year ago
@fkdgreeks How can Macedonians be any thing other then Greeks ?
it is embarrassing that you are so under educated , and post your bullshit on an open forum !
you have been fed Lies by communists wanting to get to the aegean sea .
they don't care about you . they wanted a great port . Thessaloniki ..
hate your bullshit government for feeding you Bullshit . Not the rightful owners .
Macedonia is was and will always be Greece !
FYROMINJA 1 year ago
@fkdgreeks you're dumb--NO ONE WANTS TO BE GREEK!! Like your claims on Macedonia, your country, economy, and government are a lie. You lied your way into the EU and had to be bailed out when your lies came to light.
No matter what you pull out to support your claims there is one simple fact that cannot be refuted. Macedonians are MACEDONIAN! That is our national identity.
Unlike greeks who try to claim greece AND Macedonia. Which makes your post above pretty f-ing ironic.
lalalabeatz 1 year ago
@lalalabeatz
An irony many FYROM nationalists have missed is by hiding their ethnic Bulgarian heritage and pretending to be "Macedonian" they are effectively claiming to be Greek (as ancient Macedonians were self-identifying Greeks)
GemistusPletho 5 months ago
@lalalabeatz you poor litlle guy thats what they told you and i dont blame you for anything..you are just a
victim...your identity is not a Macedonian so be proud for your true identity..search and you will find...we are proud and have every right to be because we earned it..
Galiaroth 5 months ago
@fkdgreeks
There is no map showing a sovereign FYROM before 1991. It was created by Tito in 1944 by renaming Vardar Yugoslavia "Macedonia" and the people there "ethnic Macedonians". Prior to this period the vast majority of people in that region identified ethnically as Bulgarians ("Macedonians" only in the regional sense like an Arab can be an Israeli citizen but isn't ethnically Jewish). All FYROM nationalist's are essentially doing is substituting the word "Bulgarian" with "Macedonian".
GemistusPletho 5 months ago
dear "mythbuster", in 1918 after the Balkan Wars, the National Geographic Magazine, did a research on the nationalities living in the area of the former ottoman macedonia area. 18 nationalities were reperted. Nowhere was reference to "macedonian" nation. Even Illyrians, Dalmatians, Armenians and Jews were reported, beside the major ones (greeks, bulgarians, serbs, turks etc.). Distortion of scientific and historical facts remains strong, nowdays.
2905imp 1 year ago
hoe muvh propaganda is in the video, they are twisting it so hard, greece is macedonian, macedonia isnt greek
ze1nikO 1 year ago
@ze1nikO look in the miror for Gods shake...pure idiotism....
Galiaroth 5 months ago
@Galiaroth go fuck yourself, cunt. i'm not even macedonian to say this, it's because i've studied so much history throughout my life from real sources and greece just fucks it up and makes it harder because of all the bullshit they've written. I'm 100% Australian and i don't even know a single Macedonian sou.
So if you were implying i'm macedonian and i'm just posting random bullshit that doesn't make sense, are you implying my australian ethnicity is greek to?
go burn in hell you pathetic cunt
ze1nikO 5 months ago
@ze1nikO blah blah blah..someone is pathetic but not me...blah blah blah,,useless words..
Galiaroth 5 months ago
@ze1nikO BURN IN HELL?WHAT KIND OF AN ENDING IS THAT??HOW OLD ARE YOU 6???ΠΑΣ ΒΑΡΒΑΡΟΣ ΟΥΚ ΕΛΛΗΝ ΕΣΤΙ.
Galiaroth 5 months ago
@Galiaroth you should for supporting propaganda and killing off the reputation of a whole race for your stingy ass pathetic country. My taxes go higher because of all your bullshit to. I am actually doing actuary at the top uni in australia you idiot, i believe i'm more intelligent then you and your whole fucking race put together. But see... Colloquial, immature language on you tube is not so different to what you idiots did to an amazing country.
ze1nikO 5 months ago
@Galiaroth p.s Country: Greece
i literally shit myself laughing when i saw this. You biased pieces of shit. I get my information/history from real historians. Not fuckwit greeks like yourself and other pathetic souls. All the Macedonian sources i read are from EXPERIENCED english, itanlian, german etc historians.
go limit someone elses life because of slowing down how he has to learn history now because if yous
ze1nikO 5 months ago
@ze1nikO another idiotic comment as usual....nothing important whatsoever in your 3 comments..you can call my name yo can say everything you can do all that stuff still.you re useless..i'm far more educated than you and do you know why??ive studied fyroms books i ve studied greek books i va also studied american ones and german ones...and i have realized exactly whats going on...you on the other hand.....useless...
Galiaroth 5 months ago
@Galiaroth Funny how you say that, when i'm doing actuary in university, and your far more intelligent than me? baha, it's funny because you idiots rely on bullshit virtual sources of history posted by idiots like yourself on youtube, wikipedia and other self-hosted websites. That is the reason why my disgusting message threatens idiots like yourself. Honestly mate, it doesn't matter if it's not written by greeks, they can still be payed to be biased, which is what the greek gov pays for aftral
ze1nikO 5 months ago
@ze1nikO man y are so sure about everything.let me advise you that when you are sure about something.then you fall.and thats a fact.you are saying i havent realized how the world works and that money is everything.well not only you are wrong about Greece biased history but you are the victim of huge propaganda believing that we are the victims..i dont care if you are on university..been there done that...the fact is you are just another victim..
Galiaroth 5 months ago
@Galiaroth I am sure about everything because i've studied history all my life, i have the degree rights to become an engineer, pilot, and run money for head banks in countries. I am not a fool that can be fooled by stupidity.. I know when something isn't right, and i know from like presentations and debates over this topic, the Greeks ARE, the ones creating this propaganda. There was history at one point... But the greeks DID cover it, along with other countries that supported it.raed next post
ze1nikO 5 months ago
@Galiaroth I am sure about everything because i've studied history all my life, i have the degree rights to become an engineer, pilot, and run money for head banks in countries. I am not a fool that can be fooled by stupidity.. I know when something isn't right, and i know from like presentations and debates over this topic, the Greeks ARE, the ones creating this propaganda. There was history at one point... But the greeks DID cover it, along with other countries that supported it. next post>
ze1nikO 5 months ago
@Galiaroth after all*, hence the fact, that is the reason why taxes are increased. I'm speaking about old, experienced and completely unbiased historians. Funny how you still don't know how the world works.. Money is everything mate.. But in the end.. We'll just have to see who is correct? I know i am.. The real history is being uncovered and the amount of bullshit history Greeks have produced, half of it doesn't match up/ make sense.
cya in less then a decade or two
dickhead
ze1nikO 5 months ago
@ze1nikO you are wrong abou the real history being suddenly uncovered.the real history is being covered.i can saw you facts.books tha the turks studied 20 YEARS AGO and books tha they study now completely different.YOUR WORDS PROVE YOU ARE ANTI-GREECE.HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT WE ARE BULLSHIT.YOU UNEDUCATED.WE HAVE ONE OF THE GREATEST HISTORIES AND MOST ANCIENT ONES.AND YOU ARE CALLING US BULLSHITS?DICKHEAD?YOU SERIOUS?YOU ARE SPEAKING NOW BECAUSE WE INVENTED DEMCORASY-FREEDOM OF SPEECH.B L I N D
Galiaroth 5 months ago
@Galiaroth Real history hasn't been suddenly covered. The Greek government has tried to eliminate the Macedonian race through many acts/projects, the Turkish are the ones who then helped the Macedonians recover. The Greeks didn't allow Macedonians speak macedonian, they changed the Macedonians and the dead macedonians names and surnames, (they even changed the names of the dead).. It's actually funny because you are from greece, i'm not surprised what you said has been said.
ze1nikO 5 months ago
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@Galiaroth I am sure about everything because i've studied history all my life, i have the degree rights to become an engineer, pilot, and run money for head banks in countries. I am not a fool that can be fooled by stupidity.. I know when something isn't right, and i know from like presentations and debates over this topic, the Greeks ARE, the ones creating this propaganda. There was history at one point... But the greeks DID cover it, along with other countries that supported it. next post>
ze1nikO 5 months ago
@ze1nikO Why wouldn't they support it? They all get land and money out of this anyways. Why were the greeks at one point trying to eliminate the macedonian race? They killed, tortured, changed their names to greek names (even changed the name of the dead; on tombstones etc), didn't allow them to speak Macedonian. There are more facts but unnessesary to state. There is no way i can state what i want to state in a youtube comment. But i can tell you i am not wrong about Greeks being BULLSHIT
ze1nikO 5 months ago
@ze1nikO .you can keep your opinion you can express it..but .THERE IS ONLY ONE RIGHT AND ONE WRONG IN EVERY SITUATION..TRUST ME GREEK POLITICIANS MAYBE THE WORST BUT THAT DOESNT CHANGE THE FACT DAMN STRAGHIT...MACEDONIA IS GREEK..THESE THINGS WITH THE TOMBSTONES YOU ARE SAYING ARE FICTIONAL..YOU ARE IN A UNIVERSITY SO YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT THE 371 UNIVERSITY HISTORY TEACHERS SENDING OBAMA A LETTER WITH THEIR SIGNATURES SUPPORTING GREECE WITH THE NAME..EVERYTHING N ANCIENT MACEDONIA WAS GREEK....
Galiaroth 5 months ago
@Galiaroth it's not an opinion, it's fact. And no, Macedonians are from Makeon. Greece was formed in 1982, it was originally called Athens... a small town to be precise.. Greece was formed with a mix of Albanians, Valks, and so on.. Macedonia is way older then Greece, that is why they have to say Macedonia was greek in the first place. But no it was Makedon the land of the Macedonians, It was called Athens not Greece at the time.
ze1nikO 5 months ago
@Galiaroth Yes there is right and wrong. A nation stealing another nations heritage and culture, is WRONG. No it is not fictional, it is proven and the Turkish government can confirm this. 371 university historian teachers sending Obama letters, source please, where did you get that information? otherwise it's pure bullshit or once again, money money is money Greece pays MONEY, it's proven they do to the American government then small nations follow the mother country..
ze1nikO 5 months ago
@ze1nikO If anything, Greece is Macedonian, there is no way MACEDONIA, can be Greek. LOOK IN YOUR ORTHODOX BIBLE for gods sake. At the back of it where they show the maps. Your own country is a small hill so called Athens when Macedonia is a huge block of land. Are you denying your religion? Macedonia took over athens in the first empire, so in that case, you could legitimately say Athenians (GREEKS) are Macedonians.
ze1nikO 5 months ago
@Galiaroth Yes the Greek government did attempt to eliminate the Maedonian race. But why would they do this if there's nothing to hide? Why would they do such a thing when they know the consequences of being caught would create chaos. This isn't a game mate, i have read more history specifically then the words you have read throughout your entire LIFE. What you see is published by greeks, shown to you by greeks, and so on. What i see is published to the world by old, expeirnecd, REAL historians
ze1nikO 5 months ago
@Galiaroth Greek government DID attempt to eliminate the Maedonian race. But why would they do this if there's nothing to hide? Why would they do such a thing when they know the consequences of being caught would create chaos. This isn't a game mate, i have read more history specifically then the words you have read throughout your entire LIFE. What you see is published by greeks, shown to you by greeks, and so on. What i see is published to the world by old, expeirnecd, REAL historians
ze1nikO 5 months ago
@Galiaroth Greek government DID attempt to eliminate the Maedonian race. But why would they do this if there's nothing to hide? Why would they do such a thing when they know the consequences of being caught would create chaos. This isn't a game mate, i have read more history specifically then the words you have read throughout your entire LIFE. What you see is published by Greeks, shown to you by Greeks, and so on. What i see is published to the world by old, experienced, REAL historians
ze1nikO 5 months ago
@ze1nikO DEMOCRASY*
Galiaroth 5 months ago
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@ze1nikO DEMOCRASY*
Galiaroth 5 months ago
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@ze1nikO DEMOCRASY*
Galiaroth 5 months ago
@Galiaroth Thankyou for replying to my nearly 2 year old comment. It's by far valid than your so call greek history
You Athenian, albanian centarlised pre-history fuck
ze1nikO 5 months ago
Why do we Hellenes keep on giving to these Asshole Slave ? Enough is Enough .. Lets just buy it out of existences . We all ready run most of it !! Or just walk in and take what belongs to us as the Serbians said in 1993 !! Why do we sit hear take this Grap from dastards like these ?
karanickolas 1 year ago
@1893BMPO Nick Stoyan is his stage name not the real name . Just for record.
PaunBTMakedonski 1 year ago
Imigrants playing with AK-47 , yea , hm . 2 and 2 are always 4 .
AK- 47 , Kalashnikov is not a toy , it is a weapon .
PaunBTMakedonski 1 year ago
yea look for your self find me a map that says greek older than few hundred years but yet you can find a map about MACEDONIA every where in every country LONG LIVE MACEDONIA
MACEDONIAbitola 1 year ago
Boskovski was defending Macedonia from the terorists which were financed from NATO(UK,Greece...).Have you forgot the Etnic cleaning in Aegen Macedonia 1905-1948 dont tell me it was civil war...what about the assistence in Srenica with the Serbs???
MKDarko 1 year ago
@MKDarko YOU ARE A LIER!THIS NEVER HAPPENED NOONE REFERS TO THIS THAT YOU'RE MENTIONED!MACEDONIANS ARE GREEKS YOU ARE A HUGE LIER! ALEXANDER THE GREAT WAS SPOKEN GREEK AND HE TRANSFERED THE GREEK CIVILAZATION TO THE HOLE KNOWN WORLD!YOUARE A FUCKING COMMUNIST LIER LIKE ALL THE OTHER BALKAN PEOPLE! THE ONLY THING THAT YOU ARE DOING IS TO STEEL THE GLORIOUS GREEK HISTORY AND REPRESENT THIS AS YOURS!
THEODORIEUS 1 year ago
Simply NAZI agenda...so sad you have to recognize the minorities because you're so broked that you should sell the islands to Tyrkey ang Germany...jajajajaja
MKDarko 1 year ago
Good stuff pity the score was only 7 nil fuck pakis and fuck izlam
IslamicTerd 1 year ago
You are hanging on a straw motherfucker.your time is NEAR.And for the fuckwit that put the video together go back to NON greek school asshole so you can learn the real history.
sedmiot 1 year ago
ooooo im shakeing in my boots borrowed you say .Time is that like when Greece borrows money with interest from the Eu every year to prop up its shitty economy, I would kick your broke asses out of the EU and force you ass bandits to bring back the Drachma and pay back all of your debt in Euro with interest you big nosed hairy gypsyes . Pay back all of your debt scince 1981 when the EU made the mistake of letting in you Ethiopian Barstads . Fuck this is boring don't waste time anymore bitch.
TheSmilevo 1 year ago
HHHHHHHAAAAAAAA HHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAA
Greece is Broke start picking those olives, if you placed all the olives in greece in a line from earth to the moon and repeated it a million times and then mearsured the distance and times it to the power of infinity it still wouldn't be enough olives to even pay off a quater of Greece's debt haha your broke is say kick you broke ass out of the EU dead weight who needs it.
TheSmilevo 2 years ago
Love your work still working out of your mothers basement is see hows your wife or should i say your sister keep up the good work give my best to your father or should i say uncle.
TheSmilevo 2 years ago
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skopje or skoupi is from greek word skoupi-dia=
SKOUPIDIA.english is GARBAGE AND THIS IS YOUR NAME GARBAGEDONIA OR SKOYPIDIADONIA
MAKEDONIA IS ONLY ONE AND IS GREEK!
MKDISGREEK 2 years ago 2
Bravo beautiful the music from Schindler list is powerfull
WRX2001 2 years ago
and who ever made this video should be killed. fuck boskovski and fuck the 7 retards that got killed what were they doing in macedonia?
cajceto 2 years ago
@cajceto in FYR YOU MEAN...
Galiaroth 5 months ago
fuck greece, from a real macedonian.!!!
cajceto 2 years ago
fuck vardarska!!! from a real native macedonian!!! long live greece!!!
anonymosoellin 2 years ago
fuck off u roman jewish turkish scum known as greek you will never be macedonian. LONG LIVE REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIAAAAAAAA
cajceto 2 years ago
''...for the glory and freedom of greece..'''
alexander the great....
fuck off shit head...slavovardarobulgarian gypsie...
macedonia is greece...not slavic not bulgarian...
anonymosoellin 2 years ago
@cajceto yeah long live yur republic of nothingness or however you re called now...
Galiaroth 5 months ago
@cajceto yeah from a real bulgarian..hahaha..just for your information a true macedonian whould never say fuck Greece...you re just a low level human being and besides me being a philanthropist it is such a pity for you to be so stupid....just open your mind or sleep....
Galiaroth 5 months ago