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  • This pissed me off, theres a part in the documentary where's Frank is talking to a idontrememberherposition in the company in Nokia. He said In one hand we have the profit and in the other hand we have raped woman and children, millions killed/dead, her reply is basicly a lot of text book mumbo jumbo mixed with the comapanys policy "We are trying our best to resolve this issue" but in reality she really said " We don't care about a bunch of nigger, now leave us alone".

  • poulsen is a bit of a wet fish. he should have brushed up on his interview technique... he came off looking a bit useless.

    capitalism has always been based on slave labour. wage labour is slave labour. consumer rights do not exist. you have the right to buy things and stfu.

  • Users can push companies that use the minerals from countries like Congo to adopt ethical guide line like fair trade. The problem is the consumer markets driving price war, every cheap product comes with a greater environmental and human cost.

  • I ll watch this but its not the buyers or the companys fault.They could use that money to prosper instead of war.SO the solution for peace in a country is to be poor?!!!Thats a ridicilous logic.

  • Hehh...My conscience is clear , I dont own a mobile phone :). And all this is true? Imma go watch the whole movie now.

  • @9578755 have a PC tablet or something like that? ¬¬

  • @raziel08leonhart In fact I dont, all i have is my desktop computer that I built like 8 years ago & its still working just fine. But im thinking of buying a used, released in 2006, T60 lenovo thinkpad, I wonder if it also has those blood minerals in it?

  • I think it's great that companies like Nokia are doing business in countries like the Congo. Putting money into and spurring the economies of third world countries is great. The issue is what these countries and the business people from them are doing with the money.

    Rather than using it to expand and increase their overall quality of life for their people they choose to fund wars and kill each other.

  • @poketfulashelz You obviously didn't watch the film so you shouldn't pretend to know what "good" Western companies do in the world. Can you be so ignorant to think that the price you pay for a TV, a desk or even a banana cover all the incurred costs of these products? And why is that companies like Nokia (which is just ONE example F.P. used to portray the situation) make millions of Euros whereas a miner in the Congo earns 4 Euros/sack of minerals? And you blame it all on the local governments!

  • @09parisgirl I have no interest in watching the movie at all. It doesn't bother me if there's blood on my phone, tv, couch, diamonds. That's just part of the world we live in. There's no way to fix this that will make everyone happy and since the companies that make millions of dollars pay taxes in the country I live in that's an added bonus. I do however know people that have worked in the Congo and yes the government there is so corrupt it cares about it's people less than I do, if possible.

  • @poketfulashelz There is a big difference between changing the world to make *everyone happy* & changing the world so that everyone can live a decent life meaning having access to clean water, housing, health care etc. Pity that your mental capacity cannot go that far. As for the local governments: there is corruption, massively so (which is also part of the movie btw), but it's only part of a bigger problem that is the economy of world trade. But I guess you don't care about that either...

  • @09parisgirl If your entire argument is based on the notion that I'm an asshole then don't bother, I agree. All I care about is that I get to check facebook and twitter every 5 minutes on my phone and lol with my friends.

  • @poketfulashelz You disqualified yourself from the discussion by telling me that you don't care one bit about the problem as long as you (and your country) are on the good end of the deal. If that's your POV of the world, be my guest but why bother coming here and commenting with such an utterly selfish and egotistical bordering on childish attitude?

  • @09parisgirl too troll noobz like yu

  • @poketfulashelz They are putting the money in their own wallets or offshore bank accounts, to build/buy nice houses in other countrys, and live like a rockstar. They don't want the people to live well, because then nobody would work in the mines. It's pretty simple.

  • @rageagaintstheNWO Thank you for explaining this to me I have no idea how economics work but you seem to know.

  • I don't understand why people are angry that he talks about Nokia? Yes many companies will be using the minerals that come out of these mines and yes we are all responsible. We dont need to play the blame game, we need to do something about it. Its good to name such a reputable company as a player in this game- it means we can question them, show them its not on and hope that other players will follow. The power is with the consumer- that is us. WE must change the way we live, the way we consume

  • this can be applied to almost everything that's mass produced. That's the world we live in and we're all to blame for it.

  • The untimate root of this is their own government's corruption..and then eventually we can blame it on George Bush.

  • Thank you for making this film. I hope it'll make people think before they change their 1 year-old mobiles for new ones for no good reason at all. We can't go on living as if what we do in one corner of the world doesn't affect the other one.

  • Imagine the whole world as brave as Mr. Poulsen. Willing to tell the truth is the responsibility of mankind, not an option for individuals.

  • @leksious: Do some research before posting here. The film is about Coltan not Cobalt (you call it cobolt). Majority of the worlds' coltan is in DRC and this is the mineral used in the production of mobile phones.

  • A film about our oxymoron society.It would not exist, if we did not have these technical inventions, with which we communicating here with each other. I do not know whether this word in English shows a sense. In German there is a word that calls itself "Teufelskreis" (Devils circle) or you can say "A rat bites in its own tail"

  • Humans = animals.

    And when im saying im feeling sorry to animals.....

  • no, if you watch the whole movie you can hear what he said- that not only nokia is using minnerals, but he named them because he's their user! And the movie is really excelent!

  • 3 nokia employees so far

  • Does anyone know,how I can watch this documentary online!?

    

  • @Sally4000: Silly question. You can watch it in cinemas at the moment. If you don’t want to pay for it you can use any search engine of your choice to find illegal copies, if there are any.

  • Man! We just watched this vid for hotdocs and dude, it'll give u the creeps, not the disgust nor frighten kinda of creeps, but the creeps of reality check. . . . We dont have anytime to pin point who is at fault, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!

    Boom! No more new gadgets this year and the next year for me, i aint wanna support that war. . . .

  • @angeltheya12 The problem is when you decide to stop buying electronics, they have to cut down costs to keep the profit. Therefore they open new mines! So it is better if you decide to educate people about Congo instead. And that you use your mobile to spread the word about supply chains being held a secret. They should know where their minerals come from. But the Government of the country is to blame. Only they can make their own country change. The power of the people.

  • @MrAnthonyCH yeah i think u'r right. But Even if we spread an awareness about congo, people will just start a campaign bout it to pressure the gov't and the pressured gov't will pressure the companies and the pressured companies will either close down, pressure the dealers in congo, or do the business in the shadows. And still miners are the ones who's going to suffer.my point is We dont only do the awareness as society doesnt give a damn bout awareness,we must do it and show it through actions

  • its ridiculous for anyone to say this is the fault of the consumer. as sad as it is its on the heads of the people at the top of the chain.

  • @Steve1821 I think the point is that as consumers, we have the power to sway the decisions of those people "at the top of the chain" because if we're not happy, we don't buy. If we don't buy, they don't earn money. It's not an easy thing to do, but that's the point of this documentary, isn't it? To raise awareness. (I'll add right now that I haven't actually seen the movie yet, so I'm just going off what I see in the trailer.)

  • maybe NOKIA should focus on creating excellent phones instead of releasing a new model each 2 months, that should at least decrease the need for raw materials..... oh wait, where's NOKIA's benefit in doing that?

    consumers can start doing something by recycling their old mobiles, instead of throwing them away...also, a production similar to "blood diamond" can help in creating awareness...and profit from the movie can into a real NGO instead of some hollywood fund...

  • Is still love my Nokia N82!

  • @AllroundRow I can not believe you are not touched by this... this is so sad and we are all responsible for this, but it is even sadder to know people like you ...............

  • @gabylitza But this Nokia is so good ... : (

  • There's one thing we all can do: next time you buy a phone, buy a used phone, and either sell or recycle the old one. Don't just throw it away. And make a statement to the cell phone makers that you will not give them your money until they can show that they do not use conflict minerals.

  • This is very sad. Just got sent this. O.o Put me off using my mobile...

  • tampoco compren comida de macdonalds ni usen pasta de dientes dentine porque ambos diezman a las iglesias satanicas, es mas, no usen pantalones ni beban cocacola y vamos todos a vivir al campo.

    ya hace muchos años se habló de esto entre las iglesias metodistas, tampoco hay que ser extremista y decir que no debemos usar nokia, si no lo usamos fabricarán otras cosas y explotarán a la gente igual, mas que una fuerza revolucionaria lo que se necesita es educar a las personas que están detrás

  • no compren mas teléfonos nokia. así de fácil. o la empresa que paga a esos pobres hombres, creo que el documental habla de nokia mucho el idioma no entiendo.

  • @mama21mama dice que teléfonos como Nokia incluyen ese mineral.. Pero en realidad lo incluyen casi todos... dice Nokia porque es la que mas teléfonos vende en el mundo (mas cuota). Y no, no puedes dejar de usar nokia por eso.. porque todos los teléfonos usan ese mineral.. tendrías que dejar de usar cualquier móvil... Lo mas sencillo es (si es que es considerado ilegal eso..) aplicar una sanción sobre esta empresa o cualquier otra que se aproveche de ello...

    Saludos

  • Moim zdaniem powinni coś z tym zrobić zabronić producentom kupowania od nich tego surowca czy surowców, nie wiem jak można pozwolić tak ludziom pracować i legalnie zabijać ludzi. Ludzie opamiętajcie się

  • If you care to want to know, you watch the whole of this documentary and understand that it talks about Nokia and the historical ties between the two countries. This film is not just about making Nokia look bad, but to make all of us, mobile users think about the price that some pay for our luxury. Great work! Thanks for trying to make us aware! At least those who are open to true feedback. I know I am... That makes me appreciate these guys going into all the dangers to wake up all of us.

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  • not a specially danish accent...

  • @Airsoftinsight disagree, pretty strong danish accent

  • @holocaust86 haha exactely ;)

  • And yeah it did just came from finnish state TV. And no, im finnish but i dont own a Nokia (or work for them, lol at that earlier message, as if everyone here worked for that company).

  • Documentary was about important subject, i just didnt really find out how targetting single company as the quilty one added to its credibility. Was like barking at one tree while missing the whole forest. Its how wealth distribution goes in the planet at the moment and its indeed ugly. Rich consumer western world and poor third world country that provides cheap labour and resources. Could have been just aswell about cocoa beans or Nike shoes.. or this computer im using to write this message..

  • This documentary is biased like hell n really unprofessional. Similar kind scandalous ass crap like most of the stuff in the market, but made 200% more poorly than the other ones. The issue is serious... the guy could have had a bit of journalistic integrity to cut the propaganda bout horrible corporations. "Disclose ur supply chain" ye right.. a company that made it self the world leader by beating everyone in supply chain management. The doc made me wanna kick the guys fancy ass...

  • Sikke en skod-film. Hvis vi udvinder de mineraler andre steder vil disse mennesker få et endnu dårligere liv. De er der pga. alternativet er værre. Du tvinger prisen ned på deres produkt og ødelægger deres liv endnu mere med din do-gooder attitude. Du skulle skamme dig.

  • According to wikipedia: most of worlds cobolt ore comes from congo and zambia. Cobolt alloys are used in turbines, aircraft engines, batteries, as catalysis, pigments, colors.. etc. Don´t you think every single company on world that uses such alloys are just as guilty as Nokia??? Picking up one makes no difference. Go on hide my comment and keep falsifying the truth.

  • @leksious Are you are Nokia employee?

  • @jokerennr1 No im not. I simply see this documentary completely vain, unobjective and populistic. Rediculously so. Would you accuse sports team of supporting dictatorship if their jerseys were manufactured from fibres collected in North Korea by some other company? What´s the point of this "doc"? I understand that children making shoes for western world is not okay but this is just.. There are enough faults in this world to create infinite amount of docs like this. No real point in the subject.

  • @leksious in the vid you could see motorola, samsung AND nokia. The guy himself used nokia thats why he talked about nokia ( I think....)

    Still regardless of my comment I liked your comment ( pushed the like button )

    I myself use 2 nokias at the moment. The best mobile at the moment

  • @leksious niin samaa mieltä. Se on kyl huvittavaa kun tossakin puhutaan pelkistä luureista. Olen varma siitäkin kun ne on noiden militanttien omistamie ( kaivokset ) niin nuo mineraalit ovat halvempia, kuin jos ne olisi valtion omistuksissa tai jonkun laillisen yhtiön .... aaaah korruptio.

    Mut tuo tulee suomessa: yle teemalt joulukuun 8 klo: 10

    ajattelin vaa inffoo.

  • @leksious according to wikipedia? hahaha! 

  • @leksious They're talking about Coltan, not Cobalt...

  • @leksious: First of all, it’s cobalt, not cobolt. Secondly, the mineral used in mobile phones is coltan, not cobalt. It’s nice you checked Wikipedia before posting a comment but it’s embarrassing that you failed to check the correct term, ending with a useless comment, actually.

  • @leksious How many companies do we list?? He is just picking one company that has direct financial ties with the war! ARE YOU DUMB TO UNDERSTAND THAT???. Battery companies do not have direct financial ties with the War..DUH!!.. Maybe another company might be involved. But the director cannot interview all companies. The intention is to expose the truth and it used 1 company as an example...(you know calling them and asking them if they knew what is going on etc)

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