I did a comparison of the Victrola 10-50 that I own to a EMG Handmade Gramophone that I acquired over in England. The EMG machine sounds much better than either of these two machines. Do a search on Youtube and I think you will agree to the superior sound of a EMG Handmade Gramophone!
i thought my hmv202 was better sounding than my 10-50. but one needs to take care of airloss and try different soundboxes to get the best out your gramophone...
To be honest, the British machine is much more transparent than the 10-50. I really hate to admit it, but listen to how much easier it is to pick out the instruments on the HMV unit. The song stinks by the way.
One machine I did do a comparison with my Victor 10-50 is an EMG Handmade Gramophone Mark IX model. Most U.S. collectors never have seen an EMG machine as they are British. I acquired the EMG when living in England back in the 1980's. What I can say they do sound better than a Orthophonic Victor 10-50. You would think they are electrically reproduced but are acoustical machines with large papermache horns.
To me the British HMV has a higher frequency response than the 10-50. The 10-50 has a more mellow sound but the HMV has more treble. Nice Post! I do have a 10-50 machine but have never seen the British Automatic. Nice Post!
The HMV is running significantly faster than the Victor giving it a brighter sound. The Victor has a big mellow sound with lots of bass and presence. The was super cool~Thanks!
In fact the HMV is running fast and the Victor sounds like it's VERY slow, I have this record so I am going by correct speed on my own player.
Plus I think to be completely comparative, both players should have been placed in the same place in the room so the acoustics would be identical, especially since it doesn't look like the microphone was very close to the horns. One is against a wall and another is more in the middle of a room (appears to be anyway?)
@frenchmarky They are sitting directly across from one another with just a coffee table between them with the camera on the table. The HMV was set too fast by accident but the 10-50 was set at just under 78 rpm. I no longer have the HMV.
Sorry still getting used to the YouTube rules. The vid with the 10-50 horn is when you click on sanfranphono and play the video "Charleston Sweet Georgia Brown"
Hello Moo, the video everybody has been waiting for, great job.
A detail: The Victor horn's first 4' are cast iron tubes, the bell is wood. I understand the HMV horn is stamped sheet metal laminated with terne plate.
You can see the 10-50 horn incl a cross section on this video of my 10-50:
I think the Victor has a warmer sound, and what a beutiful piece of furniture. The true fidelity, is in the HMV. You really have to be there to really know. My 1955 Magnavox sounds better in one room than another. So acoustics plays an important part. Nice vid sir.
You are right... I didn't realize I had not set it back right after tinkering with it. After I posted this I went back and checked it an it was a smig fast.
nothing tops an emg with wilson horn using a 5a soundbox
alltheway62 2 months ago
the credenza sounds better than a hmv202 ! !
alltheway62 2 months ago
I did a comparison of the Victrola 10-50 that I own to a EMG Handmade Gramophone that I acquired over in England. The EMG machine sounds much better than either of these two machines. Do a search on Youtube and I think you will agree to the superior sound of a EMG Handmade Gramophone!
Idelia412 8 months ago
i thought my hmv202 was better sounding than my 10-50. but one needs to take care of airloss and try different soundboxes to get the best out your gramophone...
alltheway62 11 months ago
the real difference is in the lower notes,for that you have to be in the room.
alltheway62 11 months ago
To be honest, the British machine is much more transparent than the 10-50. I really hate to admit it, but listen to how much easier it is to pick out the instruments on the HMV unit. The song stinks by the way.
M1GARRAND1 1 year ago
One machine I did do a comparison with my Victor 10-50 is an EMG Handmade Gramophone Mark IX model. Most U.S. collectors never have seen an EMG machine as they are British. I acquired the EMG when living in England back in the 1980's. What I can say they do sound better than a Orthophonic Victor 10-50. You would think they are electrically reproduced but are acoustical machines with large papermache horns.
Idelia412 2 years ago
To me the British HMV has a higher frequency response than the 10-50. The 10-50 has a more mellow sound but the HMV has more treble. Nice Post! I do have a 10-50 machine but have never seen the British Automatic. Nice Post!
Idelia412 2 years ago
The HMV is running significantly faster than the Victor giving it a brighter sound. The Victor has a big mellow sound with lots of bass and presence. The was super cool~Thanks!
markhh 2 years ago
In fact the HMV is running fast and the Victor sounds like it's VERY slow, I have this record so I am going by correct speed on my own player.
Plus I think to be completely comparative, both players should have been placed in the same place in the room so the acoustics would be identical, especially since it doesn't look like the microphone was very close to the horns. One is against a wall and another is more in the middle of a room (appears to be anyway?)
frenchmarky 2 years ago
@frenchmarky They are sitting directly across from one another with just a coffee table between them with the camera on the table. The HMV was set too fast by accident but the 10-50 was set at just under 78 rpm. I no longer have the HMV.
Moooperator 1 year ago
we like the TEN-FIFTY better...
VTMCompany 2 years ago
Sorry still getting used to the YouTube rules. The vid with the 10-50 horn is when you click on sanfranphono and play the video "Charleston Sweet Georgia Brown"
Cheers
sanfranphono 2 years ago
Hello Moo, the video everybody has been waiting for, great job.
A detail: The Victor horn's first 4' are cast iron tubes, the bell is wood. I understand the HMV horn is stamped sheet metal laminated with terne plate.
You can see the 10-50 horn incl a cross section on this video of my 10-50:
Cheers
sanfranphono 2 years ago
I think the Victor has a warmer sound, and what a beutiful piece of furniture. The true fidelity, is in the HMV. You really have to be there to really know. My 1955 Magnavox sounds better in one room than another. So acoustics plays an important part. Nice vid sir.
acfinney 2 years ago
no one even knows which has what, that's a hoot... nice job on the ebay purchase, you did a nice restore! The HMV WITH A METAL RE-ENTRANT HORN....
velvetree 2 years ago 2
So the Victor is a metal horn and the HMV is wood? Brother can you tell the difference! The HMV is much more bold. Better bass response and volume.
2agray 3 years ago 2
The HMV is metal and the 10-50 is wood.
Moooperator 2 years ago
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jjarment 9 months ago
the record speed of the hmv is a bit fast it seems....but i do like the overall sound of it. thanks....what fun.
bill3murr 3 years ago
You are right... I didn't realize I had not set it back right after tinkering with it. After I posted this I went back and checked it an it was a smig fast.
Moooperator 3 years ago
I prefer the victrola to the hmv. It also seems to have played at a more appropriate speed.
cmcanuck 3 years ago
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cmcanuck 3 years ago
HMV has a much more authentic balance, than the rather metallic victrola.
ebronken 3 years ago