These are two of my favorite bassists - some of their recordings are great listens which much to enjoy and learn from - i attended jeff's one week intensive and he's really advanced in note relationships and many aspects of music - however i dont like this jam very much... as a musician it holds my interest somewhat, but as a listener it wasnt a good experience - i think we should forget this jam and move on to these guys prime material - IN MY OPINION
Vic plays "licks" and "riffs" in a couple of positions. Jeff plays fluid horn like solo lines, and he uses the entire fretboard. Jeff's playing is far more musical, and worlds ahead of Wooten.
What's frightening is Jeff doesn't look at his bass, even during large jumps, that's how well he knows his fretboard. Had a lesson with him once, nice guy.
What truly wonderful musicians. Both obviously show their well deserved fame for technical chops, but i am most blown away by their ability to listen and respond to one-another. Just one thing... Is Jeff really big or is Vic really small???
I met and studied with Jeff Berlin. He is a "once in a lifetime" master of this instrument. His knowledge of theory transcends just "bass playing theory". He's like the Andre Segovia, Arthur Rubinstein, Pat Martino or Ted Greene of this generation. He's the master bassist, and that's just that. He's at the top, alone.
@baudilus I'm glad that you can quantify musicality so concretely and then post that definition as fact. I think Wooten is at a level of musicality where, along with many other great musicians, it cannot be used as a scale of comparison.
Wooten = Groove = much feelings in his melodies .. Wooten = Humility = Peace = no competition .. Wooten has a lot of technique, lots of groove and that makes him a master of the instrument. Not equate to another bassist.
@delitemyheart - I reckon you're being a bit harsh on JB - I reckon what you're seeing is to different personalities meeting on common ground - VW is a naturally shy bloke and JB likes a bit of eye contact.. no big deal.. Try listening to this wihout watching the clip - I think they compliment each other very well.
Is a bass UFC like a chicken KFC? Does KFC kinda contain the word F*CK? Guess you'll not have time to read this with your packed programme, but comparing masterful musicians like it's a sport is a sport! Your comment is a bore, and popular, like Kenny G.
@richiebeegood You are so funny I tell yo what. You go ask John Pattituchi What he thinks of Jeff the legend Berlin and of The rhythms master Victor wooten
YOU GUYS ARE CONFUSED WITH WHAT CAN DO AND WITH WHAT HE LIKES TO PLAY. I'VE TRAVELED WITH HIM AND HE CAN MIMIC ANYONES STYLE TO A T. THEN HE'LL COMBINE THEM. LOL. I HEARD JEFF ADMIT THAT VIC WAS ALL AROUND BETTER.
Jeff Berlin does have some killer technique, even though its not as flashy or as apparent as Wootens. Listen to his redention of 'tears in heaven' on his 'taking notes' album. He plays bass alot like a classical guitarist. The way he will let some notes ring out while playing others & other subtle things in his playing are very difficult. I'm kind of bad at describing it, but just listen to it for yourself. I feel it's more of a challenge then the double thumb technique that Victor is known for.
@TheMezak Victor can do everything Jeff can do, but Jeff can't do half the things, Victor can, on a bass. so in other words, Jeff can't touch Victor. Sometime what Victor does is hold back, because he knows if he wants, he would blow away most bass players.
@noinwe Sadly no one hold up victor in the same light as Jaco pastorius as Jeff is. In terms of having an effect on modern bass playing Jeff, Jaco and Stan Clarke are the shining lights and anyone else who reaches greatness in bass playing today does it on their shoulders - they have the cumulative effect on bass playing style and technique akin to a nuclear weapon...no one and I mean NO ONE else comes close...except John Pattitucci
@bakerj02 In terms of revolutionizing the electric bass as we know it, so did Jamerson, totally different style, but they're all great players. Awesome to see two amazing players jam out.
@SevenCircles Victor can do what Jeff does, in his sleep. Jeff Berlin is not even close to Victor Wooten. Jeff is good bass player though, he's just no where near Wooten!!!!
Don't get me wrong - Vic is an amazing bassist. I am quite familar with his work. I got a couple of his solo albums and a lot of bela fleck. I just feel alot of his music does come off more technical than musical. Jeff's knowledge of music is just mindblowing. He's got an amazing talent when it comes to phrasing. He can play something so advanced and complicated, but he makes it sound so effortless at the same time. That to me is much greater than technical playing, that's all...
@lizpan1 If 4 strings are good enough for these guys and Carol Kaye, James Jamerson, Chris Squire, Geddy Lee, Flea, Stu Hamm, and Billy Sheehan (and more), well, it's enough for me!
Jeff Berlin is certainly the man, but the way he's standing and looking at Victor makes me laugh. I can't even listen to the music if I don't minimize the page
I acknowledge that they are great musicians but i've grown tired of hearing endless modern jazz fusion bass offs or jams... Honestly, this stuff has really started to bore me. which is sad because they are great players... I just can't take this style anymore. I'm just no longer entertained by prog play. Impressive? I suppose so, but I think wooten shines best in my eyes when he plays the simple things. Same goes for Berlin. This stuff has no emotional association for me.
@MST3Killa I think you have very little understanding musically of what is going on if you can't appreciate the fact that this is more than just a show of technique.
@DrVinkBlowJob I think you don't understand my comment. I know it's more than a show of technique... but as I said, I've lost my taste for their style... When they play the simple stuff, it triggers more with me emotionally. When it's more complex, It looses some of it's character for me. These are my opinions based on my emotional responses... If you can't understand that, then you have absolutely no understanding of what music is and why people feel what they feel as a result.
2 Awesome bassits. I have to say if I had to pick one, Berlin would be the one. Victor's technique is over the top awesomeness and he has great groove. However, Berlin knows his bass in and out, and is VERY educated in the theory of music. I am not saying Victor doesn't have a great understanding of his bass, but Vic even admitted his knowledge of theory isn't that great. Berlin's ideas of harmony are just jaw dropping. None the less, both of these guys are just amazing.
Jeff berlin is an excellent bass player. you have to realise that this is a spontaneous jam, and both players have different tastes and styles. Therefore, the notes and speed that they play at any given moment will vary. You can tell they both enjoy what they are doing, so there is no need to say that one thinks less of the other.
Oh, please, there are plenty of 'white' bass players that have soul. The only thing that Jeff has EVER concentrated on is his technique. People like Vic, Jaco, Marcus, Stanley, and others have something 'special' that we should all strive to work towards, not the technique that Jeff has focused on. We should focus on being musicians instead of being 'bass players'. I'm pretty sure that Vic agrees with me.
It's called guitar face. It's an uncontrollable side effect from playing a stringed instrument. So much focus is on the muscle movements of the arms and hands your brain sends mixed signals to the muscles in you face and forces you to make an orgasm face... If you played guitar (or bass) you would understand.
The successful person ( like Victor and Jeff ) has the habit of doing the things other people don't like to do. Jeff & Victor don't like doing them necessarily either, but their disliking is subordinated to the strenth of their purpose.
i was too busy enjoying the music to distinguish the better player, don't know about you assholes. John Entwistle was in the Who, that's why he is viewed as better.
I strongly feel that all these fucking morons who say entwistle was better than guys like Jaco, Wooten, Clarke, and Miller, are severly retared, Entwistle was good no doubt, maybe bass player of the milenium, but what the fuck does that even mean, in a pure head cuttin duel between Entwistle and Jaco, or Wooten, Mr. Entwistle would surely lose without a doubt, and if there is a bass player in the world who disagrees, than switch instruments, because you are fucking retarded!
WTF, Is this some kind of Bass UFC?!!!!? Usually folks that sit around trolling youtube comparing masterful musicians like it's a "sport" can't hang in the real world of music themselves. Besides, there's probably some Joe Blow in shit kick middle America that can make all these guys bow their heads! Every guy is good in his element. Jeff or Victor might sound good with band A and suck with Band B. That would include every great player!
He's an amazing sight reader. Did you ever hear Steve Vai's story of Vinnie when he auditioned for Zappa's group? He was given a piece of music titled "Mo 'N Herb's Vacation" to play.
You may have already heard about it. If you haven't, I don't wanna spoil it for you. Steve Vai's quote is in the 'Vinnie Colaiuta" article on wikipedia in the 'career' section.
@Misterantinoodle yeaaaaaaah, I gotta disagree. Look up Victor Wooten, The man has been bass player of the year many times. And yeaaaaaah, Victor Wooten...probably one of the best Bassists ever lived, up there with Jaco.
Guess you didnt know John Entwistle was voted "BASSIST OF THE MILLENIUM" BEFORE HE DIED MORON! Entwistle has won thousands of polls for over 4 decades before he died. Entwistle won the crown in 2000, he died in 2002. Nice try dickhead. Did Wooten die? Oh you must be talking about Jaco! I Got it now.
Yes Jaco died and then became "GOD" lmao. John Entwistle lived long enough to see him win thousands of polls. Nothing new there. For over 45 yrs he was at the top of almost all polls and if not at the top very near the top. Quite an accomplishment would you agree? Oh and these two in this video, are they at a wedding hall?
John who?? Too bad those polls are mostly popularity contests by fans. Jaco was a bass god long before he died. Entwhistle was good but his main contribution was being part of one of the loudest bands in the world.
Entwistle has won thousands of polls for the last 5 decades, nothing new there. BASSIST OF THE MILLENIUM was not a popularity contest. The people who voted were other professional bass players and musicians. John who? Look up Bass Player Of The Millenium thats who! cheers
Like I said. A contest of popularity more than talent. I know exactly who he is and I've heard plenty of his playing but he doesn't even touch any of these guys in versatility. He gets voted in by other rock bassists who aren't as talented mostly as an influence on their early development of their sound.
I think 'jams' like this are cool to see if you know what they're doing, or at least know that they are doing something you can't yet. But I think this is will always be more satisfying to the people playing it, not to the audience. That said, I completely disagree with sciMG, the electric bass is incredibly melodically and percussionally expressive, and I think it's the most dynamic instrument in a band, including this music that he says "people want to see". He must play in a cover band.
Guys just let SciMaster think the way he does. Like I said earlier he won't get far thinking the way he does. People like me and others who will try to follow the revolution of guys like victor, jeff, jaco, etc will be the ones who will push the bass to new heights.
Scimaster you are a ho ass bitch they can play bass however they're feelin. Your a horrible person saying people can't do anything mother fucka. you dont like this, okay you cant change shit because your a BITCH
SciMaster, if you're really that good, my hat's off to you, but I'd like to see the videos to prove it. And a lot of people listen to Fleck and Vox Humana!
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As a bass player, I just don't understand why people would play the instrument like this. Lead bass sucks, it's just not that interesting of an instrument.
I think you just don't understand why people are better than you. If they have the talent, why would they not use it. I don't think you are bass player, because you would you ever want to put limitations on the it if you really played it.
If you were a musician, you would realise that I am referring to how one approaches the instrument, not limiting yourself. BASS IS NOT A LEAD INSTRUMENT! I play like this when I'm doodleing, but I wouldn't inflict it on anyone else! Be honest, wouldn't you rather listen to a guitar or piano player going off? What's next, a tuba solo?
First of all an instrument can be whatever you make of it. Second of all there plenty of tuba solos out there. You will never get anywhere thinking the way you do.
SciMaster, widen your horizons a bit! If you truly believe it's just not that interesting, perhaps you should play something you DO find interesting. Then you might not make such ridiculous comments when faced with virtuosity.
I love playing bass more than anything, I face virtuosity every time I pick up the bass . But what good is it, I play bass like one should when making good music that people will want to listen to! How many people listen to Fleck or Vox Humana, not many!
"How many people listen to Fleck or Vox Humana, not many!"
That's an odd point to make, I think.
No, not extremely many, but some do... They make a living playing and have listeners, you know. Should we always aim for the larger crowds?
"good music that people will want to listen to!"
Define "good". Define "people". Do you mean music that will earn you a lot of money since a large crowd listens to it? I don't really understand your reasoning.
Lead bass sucks?....WHAT??? WHAT??? you dont understand why people would play the instrument like this???
WHAT???
Just listen to the two of em. They are making music. Two bass players make music. This is music..so creative n so damn fine. They have the percussive side of it coverered..they have the Bass side of it covered..the have the Melody covered. I mean, this is what music is all about. And they Are doing it with only Two bass guitars!!! How awesome is that???
Music CONSTANTLY changes. You have to accept that. Victor Wooten has made some of the most beautiful and original music I've ever heard in my life. Its because he sometimes treats the bass as a lead that his solos become so interesting, with so much range and possibility. I personally think the bass is a beautiful sound, and should be featured. arnbassbaritone is right, you won't get far at all thinking the way you do. And you want to see a tuba solo? Look up "Tuba Solo Carnival in Venice."
instruments aren't meant to be played any certain way. its all about the person expressing them self. and to be honest, playing bass just to keep time or have a deeper voice in the music is just a waste of an instrument. explore life more and you might just understand what true music is about.
by saying that the bass has to keep the low end is just putting restrictions on the instrument. yes it usually does keep the low end. but it doesnt mean that that has to be what it does always.
Sounds like Victor's been hanging out with Stanley Clarke--there's some very distinctive phrasing and melodic passages there. (yes I know he has...no need to give the news)
It's like I've just climbed up mount olympus and beheld the gods themselves "jamming righteously" before being struck from the mountain by a mighty thunderbolt.
It's strange seeing these two together after Berlin insulted Wooten's bass camp. Thank you Victor for being the bigger man and forgiving Berlin.
psyoptica 1 week ago in playlist bajeros cabrones
Jeff looks like he spends most his time playing World of Warcraft then practicing his bass, but what a talent he is!
ThreeCrowns 2 weeks ago
These are two of my favorite bassists - some of their recordings are great listens which much to enjoy and learn from - i attended jeff's one week intensive and he's really advanced in note relationships and many aspects of music - however i dont like this jam very much... as a musician it holds my interest somewhat, but as a listener it wasnt a good experience - i think we should forget this jam and move on to these guys prime material - IN MY OPINION
TheDennyAblack 3 weeks ago
wonderful playing!
SamLowerySF 1 month ago
Vic plays "licks" and "riffs" in a couple of positions. Jeff plays fluid horn like solo lines, and he uses the entire fretboard. Jeff's playing is far more musical, and worlds ahead of Wooten.
432ps1 1 month ago
Vic Woo's accompaniment was groovier! Both great bassists though. Vic Woo's solo also had more spacr and breathed more.
carloscs5 1 month ago
Love them both but...Berlin had the tastier licks.
muchostacos 2 months ago
Berling owns Wooten a lil bit in this one!
Murreh 2 months ago
both are better!!
bishvilma 2 months ago
victor lost it when jeff busted into some latiny jazz awesomeness!!!
impaled 2 months ago
What's frightening is Jeff doesn't look at his bass, even during large jumps, that's how well he knows his fretboard. Had a lesson with him once, nice guy.
tacomadc 3 months ago
What truly wonderful musicians. Both obviously show their well deserved fame for technical chops, but i am most blown away by their ability to listen and respond to one-another. Just one thing... Is Jeff really big or is Vic really small???
greatballsofbass 3 months ago
@greatballsofbass Jeff is a tall huge man!!!
impaled 2 months ago
@greatballsofbass Combination of both.
lorenzini 1 month ago
They play together... GOD and... GOD!
GEGrassi 6 months ago in playlist HENRY'S
talkin' bass
DuncanDonuts3 6 months ago
both are amazing... end of discussion...
pietzouille 7 months ago
6 people just binned their instrument ...
MonsieurJ69 7 months ago 3
3:15 the camera man messed his pants
iamajames 8 months ago
This is the concept of heaven for me:D
demexicoamagallanes1 8 months ago
A Love Supreme for all musicians, not just bassists.
TheStatue1 10 months ago
Were they getting married afterwards? Cheesy decoration! Lmao!!
schindlerial 10 months ago 2
I met and studied with Jeff Berlin. He is a "once in a lifetime" master of this instrument. His knowledge of theory transcends just "bass playing theory". He's like the Andre Segovia, Arthur Rubinstein, Pat Martino or Ted Greene of this generation. He's the master bassist, and that's just that. He's at the top, alone.
TheSteveSteele 11 months ago
@TheSteveSteele You, my friend are 1000% correct, and one of the few that understand that. Jeff's playing is unparalleled and worlds ahead of Wooten.
432ps1 1 month ago
I love what JB did in the beginning. Vic is sick but I find him to be less musical than I like, most times.
baudilus 1 year ago
@baudilus I'm glad that you can quantify musicality so concretely and then post that definition as fact. I think Wooten is at a level of musicality where, along with many other great musicians, it cannot be used as a scale of comparison.
potatomasta 10 months ago
great performance - a pity about all the usual youtube yawn yawn " so and so is better than so and so" comments.
thGory1 1 year ago
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!! What a 'Nasty' line at 3.35!!!!
LOVE IT!!!
smoothbabic 1 year ago
Wooten = Groove = much feelings in his melodies .. Wooten = Humility = Peace = no competition .. Wooten has a lot of technique, lots of groove and that makes him a master of the instrument. Not equate to another bassist.
Greetings from Uruguay
ismabass1 1 year ago 2
@ismabass1
I totally agree
adurgaram 1 year ago
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delitemyheart 1 year ago
@delitemyheart - I reckon you're being a bit harsh on JB - I reckon what you're seeing is to different personalities meeting on common ground - VW is a naturally shy bloke and JB likes a bit of eye contact.. no big deal.. Try listening to this wihout watching the clip - I think they compliment each other very well.
royism 1 year ago
@royism i think your right. I have repented from what i said in my comment..so i removed it now. Thanx for pointing that out man!
delitemyheart 1 year ago
@delitemyheart - cheers mate :)
royism 1 year ago
@royism indeed they sorta do
TehSneakyFox 10 months ago
Is a bass UFC like a chicken KFC? Does KFC kinda contain the word F*CK? Guess you'll not have time to read this with your packed programme, but comparing masterful musicians like it's a sport is a sport! Your comment is a bore, and popular, like Kenny G.
sxmadrid 1 year ago
Saw John Pattituchi live with Chic Corea in Minneapolis back in 1991, and he blows both these guys away.
richiebeegood 1 year ago
@richiebeegood You are so funny I tell yo what. You go ask John Pattituchi What he thinks of Jeff the legend Berlin and of The rhythms master Victor wooten
foxybrown2 1 year ago
YOU GUYS ARE CONFUSED WITH WHAT CAN DO AND WITH WHAT HE LIKES TO PLAY. I'VE TRAVELED WITH HIM AND HE CAN MIMIC ANYONES STYLE TO A T. THEN HE'LL COMBINE THEM. LOL. I HEARD JEFF ADMIT THAT VIC WAS ALL AROUND BETTER.
goneruff22 1 year ago
3.09 !!!!!
teracite 1 year ago
Jeff Berlin does have some killer technique, even though its not as flashy or as apparent as Wootens. Listen to his redention of 'tears in heaven' on his 'taking notes' album. He plays bass alot like a classical guitarist. The way he will let some notes ring out while playing others & other subtle things in his playing are very difficult. I'm kind of bad at describing it, but just listen to it for yourself. I feel it's more of a challenge then the double thumb technique that Victor is known for.
ZappaFan101 1 year ago
this is bass player history
10aciouss 1 year ago
jeff is better than wooten
TheMezak 1 year ago
@TheMezak Victor can do everything Jeff can do, but Jeff can't do half the things, Victor can, on a bass. so in other words, Jeff can't touch Victor. Sometime what Victor does is hold back, because he knows if he wants, he would blow away most bass players.
noinwe 1 year ago
@noinwe Sadly no one hold up victor in the same light as Jaco pastorius as Jeff is. In terms of having an effect on modern bass playing Jeff, Jaco and Stan Clarke are the shining lights and anyone else who reaches greatness in bass playing today does it on their shoulders - they have the cumulative effect on bass playing style and technique akin to a nuclear weapon...no one and I mean NO ONE else comes close...except John Pattitucci
bakerj02 1 year ago
@bakerj02 In terms of revolutionizing the electric bass as we know it, so did Jamerson, totally different style, but they're all great players. Awesome to see two amazing players jam out.
Craigisnotcool 1 year ago
@noinwe
Jeff can do stuff victor can´t and Victor can do stuff Jeff can´t. Nuff said.
SevenCircles 1 year ago
@SevenCircles Victor can do what Jeff does, in his sleep. Jeff Berlin is not even close to Victor Wooten. Jeff is good bass player though, he's just no where near Wooten!!!!
noinwe 1 year ago
@noinwe
Victor is a great groover and has a lot of flashy technique, but Berlin's knowledge of music is VAST.
ZappaFan101 1 year ago
@ZappaFan101 You obviously don't know much about Wooten.
noinwe 1 year ago
@noinwe
Don't get me wrong - Vic is an amazing bassist. I am quite familar with his work. I got a couple of his solo albums and a lot of bela fleck. I just feel alot of his music does come off more technical than musical. Jeff's knowledge of music is just mindblowing. He's got an amazing talent when it comes to phrasing. He can play something so advanced and complicated, but he makes it sound so effortless at the same time. That to me is much greater than technical playing, that's all...
ZappaFan101 1 year ago
@TheMezak oh c'mon already... you are a baby musician and/or human
GrooveInYourOwnTime 1 year ago
lord of the bass victor wooten
OZDREMA1 1 year ago
Got two words for you: FOUR STRINGS.
lizpan1 1 year ago 2
@lizpan1 If 4 strings are good enough for these guys and Carol Kaye, James Jamerson, Chris Squire, Geddy Lee, Flea, Stu Hamm, and Billy Sheehan (and more), well, it's enough for me!
kayleedee1 1 year ago
Saw Wooten with Bela Fleck and Jeff with Bill Bruford. This is a nice little jam but is only a small taste of what they can do.
videocanone 1 year ago
nice.......
elkrakem 1 year ago
Jeff Berlin is certainly the man, but the way he's standing and looking at Victor makes me laugh. I can't even listen to the music if I don't minimize the page
thebadbrown 1 year ago
I acknowledge that they are great musicians but i've grown tired of hearing endless modern jazz fusion bass offs or jams... Honestly, this stuff has really started to bore me. which is sad because they are great players... I just can't take this style anymore. I'm just no longer entertained by prog play. Impressive? I suppose so, but I think wooten shines best in my eyes when he plays the simple things. Same goes for Berlin. This stuff has no emotional association for me.
MST3Killa 1 year ago
@MST3Killa I think you have very little understanding musically of what is going on if you can't appreciate the fact that this is more than just a show of technique.
DrVinkBlowJob 1 year ago
@DrVinkBlowJob I think you don't understand my comment. I know it's more than a show of technique... but as I said, I've lost my taste for their style... When they play the simple stuff, it triggers more with me emotionally. When it's more complex, It looses some of it's character for me. These are my opinions based on my emotional responses... If you can't understand that, then you have absolutely no understanding of what music is and why people feel what they feel as a result.
MST3Killa 1 year ago
Not only does these guys hit ALL the right notes, but they make all the wrong ones sound beautiful. Really starts to groove around 3:55.
kbodonne 1 year ago
jeff berlin champions con scott henderson y neal schon, victor con steve smitt bestial
27adry 1 year ago
This is music
Bluesub6 1 year ago
Just can't help but wonder why they didn't up as guitarists instead since they love playing so melodically and in the upper registers ;-0
Lorbeer321 1 year ago
@Lorbeer321 Probably because basses are just so much cooler.
:P
jonjonjonmw3 1 year ago
I'd have to say Jeff has got Victor by a small margin...his solo's are a bit more interesting. Good shit !
BiorythmicDrifter 1 year ago
@BiorythmicDrifter absolutely, I'd say jeff's a BIT more interesting!
jrobinso 1 year ago
im sorry, but i think victor's facial expressions are hilarious!
blackened247 1 year ago
All those notes and musicality between the both of them, and guess what?......they are both using 4string bass guitars!
Just goes to show how much you can do on 4strings!!!
delitemyheart 1 year ago
i'd prefer the melodic parts of their solo's..
pharoahscurse 1 year ago
Jeff the BEST and Wotten PLEASE GO TO STUDY.
cx7at 1 year ago
@cx7at you too .
teracite 9 months ago
this brings a clear picture of what david and goliath looked like,love both of em.
dxbonnez 1 year ago
Jeff is f***ing great...
anjomeridiano 1 year ago
the first note of victor's solo. the first note of victor's solo........ bad. mother. fucker.
jbasedig 1 year ago
bravo!
joeylodes 1 year ago
both of them make me feel like pure disgusting shit
Hugoj33 2 years ago 3
2 Awesome bassits. I have to say if I had to pick one, Berlin would be the one. Victor's technique is over the top awesomeness and he has great groove. However, Berlin knows his bass in and out, and is VERY educated in the theory of music. I am not saying Victor doesn't have a great understanding of his bass, but Vic even admitted his knowledge of theory isn't that great. Berlin's ideas of harmony are just jaw dropping. None the less, both of these guys are just amazing.
ZappaFan101 2 years ago
markbass for life victor and jeff are inspiring
olpotface 2 years ago
Both are good listeners too.
jaiyoo74 2 years ago 19
Vic is a beast! Jeff is nice too...got his own style. V just has more structure & soul & tempo to what he laid.
jaiyoo74 2 years ago
hahahaha Jeffberlinlookssofunny
Hackumsackum 2 years ago
different of this two masters
jeff berlin has a really mellow sound obviously an amazing technique
and wooten has a lot of groove !! .. both cant play anything that you ask for
theres no limits for this two bass masters
landhozo 2 years ago
Nice!!!
shanonobanion 2 years ago 5
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Why does that guy play, victor is playing so nice, and this guy only hitting wrong notes :p
litocool 2 years ago
I really dont think you know what you're talking about!
jacoojake92 2 years ago
Wooten the hamster ;)
I prefer by far Berlin, he has a more fluid touch, and more class
kinggambitabc 2 years ago
Jeff berlin is an excellent bass player. you have to realise that this is a spontaneous jam, and both players have different tastes and styles. Therefore, the notes and speed that they play at any given moment will vary. You can tell they both enjoy what they are doing, so there is no need to say that one thinks less of the other.
SuperGeo1987 2 years ago 2
Victor is just like, 'What is this white guy doing? He has no soul!'
sorencasonwood 2 years ago 2
lol agreed. thats wuts kool bout victor hes got pocket and chops
crazybassplayerdude 2 years ago
if thats what you think he tbelieves.. you havent understand what victor is about yet.
Harbec 2 years ago
@Harbec
Oh, please, there are plenty of 'white' bass players that have soul. The only thing that Jeff has EVER concentrated on is his technique. People like Vic, Jaco, Marcus, Stanley, and others have something 'special' that we should all strive to work towards, not the technique that Jeff has focused on. We should focus on being musicians instead of being 'bass players'. I'm pretty sure that Vic agrees with me.
sorencasonwood 2 years ago
I love Jeff Berlin's touch on the instrument
wcr4 2 years ago 4
Ya Vic and his brother Reg will make you shit your pants.. Every Wednesday night at the 12th & Porter club Nashville Tn USA
Patricio4u 2 years ago
orgasmico!
Isleofview87 2 years ago
If Victor was gonna bust a nut in your moms eye, that's what his face would look like. LOL
mobley211 2 years ago
It's called guitar face. It's an uncontrollable side effect from playing a stringed instrument. So much focus is on the muscle movements of the arms and hands your brain sends mixed signals to the muscles in you face and forces you to make an orgasm face... If you played guitar (or bass) you would understand.
mobley211 2 years ago 3
two of the creepiest bass players in the buisness. But of course they are excellent players.
tonyguyer 2 years ago
what u mean?i dont get it..
Isleofview87 2 years ago
What? How?
arnbassbaritone 2 years ago
:? creepiest
upperlupus1617 2 years ago
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total respect for both these guys, but why the faces?
playing with feeling has nothing to do with looking like your about to shit yoru pants haha
deathinbodom1 2 years ago
awsum jam...
GrantSmithBass 2 years ago
nice little jean pierre diddy!
funkbeastbasslover 2 years ago
love how both change rythm at 4:50
alvarokas 2 years ago
these dudes are really vibing hard! total focus and comradery.
dankgeetar 2 years ago
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this song sucks they both play well but this does not show how good they are
foxybrown2 2 years ago
yeah i know but the sound of the notes you play above the 12 fret isn´t the same like you play the note on an lower fret on the guitar.
know what i mean?
LouBass09 2 years ago
hey i heard that song in an elevator or call waiting on the phone someday good playing guys
Electricienbatard 2 years ago 2
The successful person ( like Victor and Jeff ) has the habit of doing the things other people don't like to do. Jeff & Victor don't like doing them necessarily either, but their disliking is subordinated to the strenth of their purpose.
PlayersSchoolofMusic 2 years ago
Both those guys are smoking. Berlin's got a legato thing going on his solo's that u don't hear a lot on bass
It makes it flow. Might of got that from his years playing with Allan Holdsworth.
msawbe 2 years ago
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why jeff berlin don´t play guitar?
his hand is most of the time around the 12th fret.
LouBass09 2 years ago
Bass doesn't sound that good soloing in the lower end with another player playing the bass part.
Zyplen 2 years ago
Because he's primarily a soloist in much of his personally-done music. It's his style on the instrument he loves most.
JederLacht1 2 years ago
looks like these two are playing at a wedding hall
commieobama 2 years ago
They are. It's a place called "the Kapok". It's what the trailer park set consider a classy place to get hitched.
Schtickbass 2 years ago
LOL!! Right...I'm like where are they at...the vestibul of a Romanic wedding hall??
cjtoota1 2 years ago 3
must be someones wedding cause they need a gig, lol.
commieobama 2 years ago
Wooten is way better keeping the groove and comp together.
Elriath 2 years ago
i was too busy enjoying the music to distinguish the better player, don't know about you assholes. John Entwistle was in the Who, that's why he is viewed as better.
saxophonehero 2 years ago
Both players are good respectively....but Jeff Berlin had more feel than Vicky out of that bass!
shred88 2 years ago
for solo Jeff Berlin is away better.
3toso 2 years ago
wooten is good, but berlin is THE MASTER
reflixtinian 2 years ago
Are you kidding! Berlin sounds like the stuff you learn in class. Wooten flows more natural.
bonesworld2 2 years ago
I strongly feel that all these fucking morons who say entwistle was better than guys like Jaco, Wooten, Clarke, and Miller, are severly retared, Entwistle was good no doubt, maybe bass player of the milenium, but what the fuck does that even mean, in a pure head cuttin duel between Entwistle and Jaco, or Wooten, Mr. Entwistle would surely lose without a doubt, and if there is a bass player in the world who disagrees, than switch instruments, because you are fucking retarded!
redhouse7 2 years ago 4
WTF, Is this some kind of Bass UFC?!!!!? Usually folks that sit around trolling youtube comparing masterful musicians like it's a "sport" can't hang in the real world of music themselves. Besides, there's probably some Joe Blow in shit kick middle America that can make all these guys bow their heads! Every guy is good in his element. Jeff or Victor might sound good with band A and suck with Band B. That would include every great player!
Misterantinoodle 2 years ago 30
bahahaha veery well said
huginandmunin 2 years ago
VERY well worded!!! FINALLY some sense on youtube!!! :)
Nickradamus 2 years ago
@Misterantinoodle
except for VINNIE COLAIUTA!!!!!! who can play every kind of music with upmost grace and style.
Rambonbon 1 year ago
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He's an amazing sight reader. Did you ever hear Steve Vai's story of Vinnie when he auditioned for Zappa's group? He was given a piece of music titled "Mo 'N Herb's Vacation" to play.
You may have already heard about it. If you haven't, I don't wanna spoil it for you. Steve Vai's quote is in the 'Vinnie Colaiuta" article on wikipedia in the 'career' section.
ZappaFan101 1 year ago
@Misterantinoodle Great comment you are one true musician thank you for the truth
we have way to many youtube idiots on here. comparing musicians.
foxybrown2 1 year ago
@Misterantinoodle yeaaaaaaah, I gotta disagree. Look up Victor Wooten, The man has been bass player of the year many times. And yeaaaaaah, Victor Wooten...probably one of the best Bassists ever lived, up there with Jaco.
jandsbfan 1 year ago
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John Entwistle was voted by other professional bass players as the, "BASSIST OF THE MILLENIUM", enough said.
commieobama 2 years ago
It's amazing how great you become....after you die!
Kilmarley 2 years ago
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Guess you didnt know John Entwistle was voted "BASSIST OF THE MILLENIUM" BEFORE HE DIED MORON! Entwistle has won thousands of polls for over 4 decades before he died. Entwistle won the crown in 2000, he died in 2002. Nice try dickhead. Did Wooten die? Oh you must be talking about Jaco! I Got it now.
commieobama 2 years ago
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Yes Jaco died and then became "GOD" lmao. John Entwistle lived long enough to see him win thousands of polls. Nothing new there. For over 45 yrs he was at the top of almost all polls and if not at the top very near the top. Quite an accomplishment would you agree? Oh and these two in this video, are they at a wedding hall?
commieobama 2 years ago
John who?? Too bad those polls are mostly popularity contests by fans. Jaco was a bass god long before he died. Entwhistle was good but his main contribution was being part of one of the loudest bands in the world.
cathridge 2 years ago 2
Entwistle has won thousands of polls for the last 5 decades, nothing new there. BASSIST OF THE MILLENIUM was not a popularity contest. The people who voted were other professional bass players and musicians. John who? Look up Bass Player Of The Millenium thats who! cheers
commieobama 2 years ago
Like I said. A contest of popularity more than talent. I know exactly who he is and I've heard plenty of his playing but he doesn't even touch any of these guys in versatility. He gets voted in by other rock bassists who aren't as talented mostly as an influence on their early development of their sound.
cathridge 2 years ago
since when did polls ever tell the truth?
burlearth 2 years ago
since polls were conducted by other musicians and bass players thats when they tell the truth. Also Osama Obama won the election, votes count.
commieobama 2 years ago
doesn't mean they're right, not everyone is "well" informed. What the fuck does Obama have to do with it anyway, all politicians lie for a living.
burlearth 2 years ago 2
you are pathetic
patches0007 2 years ago
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juanbarros88 2 years ago
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juanbarros88 2 years ago
Love the swaying 0.02 - 0.11
rumdidda84 2 years ago
who won?
wyattdawg 2 years ago
Us!
panhead1219 2 years ago
I think 'jams' like this are cool to see if you know what they're doing, or at least know that they are doing something you can't yet. But I think this is will always be more satisfying to the people playing it, not to the audience. That said, I completely disagree with sciMG, the electric bass is incredibly melodically and percussionally expressive, and I think it's the most dynamic instrument in a band, including this music that he says "people want to see". He must play in a cover band.
thebadbrown 2 years ago 3
I think theyre in the here and now but mabye theyre ahead of their time someday when lead bass is not a minority youll understand
Fr3eStyle2 2 years ago
Oh my bad I'm really arnbassbaritone, but I'm on my dad's account. Sorry
aionbass 2 years ago
Guys just let SciMaster think the way he does. Like I said earlier he won't get far thinking the way he does. People like me and others who will try to follow the revolution of guys like victor, jeff, jaco, etc will be the ones who will push the bass to new heights.
aionbass 2 years ago 2
lead bass is the way of the future maaannnnnn
Fr3eStyle2 2 years ago 2
the way of the future the way of the furute the way of the future the way of the future
rockeritaz 2 years ago
Hahaha why the hell always so hysterical man, just calm down people.
Lead bass or not, in things music, the mind sets the limit.
Take it easy, bass is a wonderful instrument for multiple purposes.
Listendudeok 2 years ago
Scimaster you are a ho ass bitch they can play bass however they're feelin. Your a horrible person saying people can't do anything mother fucka. you dont like this, okay you cant change shit because your a BITCH
A2KID420 2 years ago
I'm a horrible person because I don't like this shit? You called me a ho ass bitch!! Who talks like that? You are an idiot.
SciMasterGeneral 2 years ago
Two amazing bassists... I am so glad I found this... These two are a big part of why I play the bass, and it is just so beautiful...
thunderbird590 2 years ago
That was Sensational!!!
delitemyheart 2 years ago
SciMaster, if you're really that good, my hat's off to you, but I'd like to see the videos to prove it. And a lot of people listen to Fleck and Vox Humana!
chrisbassplayer 2 years ago
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As a bass player, I just don't understand why people would play the instrument like this. Lead bass sucks, it's just not that interesting of an instrument.
SciMasterGeneral 2 years ago
I think you just don't understand why people are better than you. If they have the talent, why would they not use it. I don't think you are bass player, because you would you ever want to put limitations on the it if you really played it.
arnbassbaritone 2 years ago 7
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If you were a musician, you would realise that I am referring to how one approaches the instrument, not limiting yourself. BASS IS NOT A LEAD INSTRUMENT! I play like this when I'm doodleing, but I wouldn't inflict it on anyone else! Be honest, wouldn't you rather listen to a guitar or piano player going off? What's next, a tuba solo?
SciMasterGeneral 2 years ago
First of all an instrument can be whatever you make of it. Second of all there plenty of tuba solos out there. You will never get anywhere thinking the way you do.
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yan123456789AZ 2 years ago
SciMaster, widen your horizons a bit! If you truly believe it's just not that interesting, perhaps you should play something you DO find interesting. Then you might not make such ridiculous comments when faced with virtuosity.
chrisbassplayer 2 years ago
I love playing bass more than anything, I face virtuosity every time I pick up the bass . But what good is it, I play bass like one should when making good music that people will want to listen to! How many people listen to Fleck or Vox Humana, not many!
SciMasterGeneral 2 years ago
"How many people listen to Fleck or Vox Humana, not many!"
That's an odd point to make, I think.
No, not extremely many, but some do... They make a living playing and have listeners, you know. Should we always aim for the larger crowds?
"good music that people will want to listen to!"
Define "good". Define "people". Do you mean music that will earn you a lot of money since a large crowd listens to it? I don't really understand your reasoning.
Flemmingdoerken 2 years ago
Lead bass sucks?....WHAT??? WHAT??? you dont understand why people would play the instrument like this???
WHAT???
Just listen to the two of em. They are making music. Two bass players make music. This is music..so creative n so damn fine. They have the percussive side of it coverered..they have the Bass side of it covered..the have the Melody covered. I mean, this is what music is all about. And they Are doing it with only Two bass guitars!!! How awesome is that???
But Saddly..you dont GET IT!
delitemyheart 2 years ago
Music CONSTANTLY changes. You have to accept that. Victor Wooten has made some of the most beautiful and original music I've ever heard in my life. Its because he sometimes treats the bass as a lead that his solos become so interesting, with so much range and possibility. I personally think the bass is a beautiful sound, and should be featured. arnbassbaritone is right, you won't get far at all thinking the way you do. And you want to see a tuba solo? Look up "Tuba Solo Carnival in Venice."
thebassguy127 2 years ago
instruments aren't meant to be played any certain way. its all about the person expressing them self. and to be honest, playing bass just to keep time or have a deeper voice in the music is just a waste of an instrument. explore life more and you might just understand what true music is about.
bassplayerguy4 2 years ago 4
dude what are you saying, gotta keep the low end solid and then cut loose when the time is right. just ask jeff, victor, or pino.
Jack458111 2 years ago
by saying that the bass has to keep the low end is just putting restrictions on the instrument. yes it usually does keep the low end. but it doesnt mean that that has to be what it does always.
bassplayerguy4 2 years ago
Sounds like Victor's been hanging out with Stanley Clarke--there's some very distinctive phrasing and melodic passages there. (yes I know he has...no need to give the news)
jrutid 2 years ago
Two masters of the electric bass. An honor to get to hear this clip. Thanks to jazzsoulgroovy for posting.
ntesslafan 2 years ago
They know how to sound awesome but at times theyre dissonant as shit on purpose
SLiMxShANuS 2 years ago
It's like I've just climbed up mount olympus and beheld the gods themselves "jamming righteously" before being struck from the mountain by a mighty thunderbolt.
Aoenias 2 years ago