I'm not an American hater. The Corvettte is awesome esp for the price, I wouldn't be caught dead in a truck that's not a Silverado, love old school Caddies + Chevys...I just don't think any partially sane person would opt for a CTS-V over a friggin 458 if given the choice. I don't care what the comments say...
If it was "engineered" so well, it would be faster. What is it with you anti American haters? Even when we make something that kicks ass you still don't give props... For the price of that "engineering" I'll buy 3 Caddy's so my wife and daughter can walk on you as well.
@BlockBig10 I'm not threatened at all...I'm just a fan of fine engineering & a great driving experience...instead of a bunch of power, noise & plastic. Sorry 'bigphony142.' If it was all about going fast & saying 'whoopee,' I'd jump on a $10k Honda CBR 1K & kick anybody's ass driving anything less than $500k which includes all primitive American cars...courtesy of Japan. America is at halftime....& has been for quite some time now.
@keithskillz90210 As a fan of "fine engineering" and a "great driving experience", can you please tell me, or better yet, post a video of which car you put your money into?
@keithskillz90210 Sorry if I wasnt being clear in my question. I asked what you actually put your money into (i.e. what do you own). Is that your UGR lambo? Or the honda camera car?
@yammieR12003 sorry, i misread. I own a stock 2010 BMW 328 coupe with sport package. Not fast AT ALL, but truly a blissful driving experience. The honda was my company car.
ouch....did you ever think we would see the day where a 2011 Top line Ferrari would be getting its ass handed to it by a freakin caddie?! Worlds funny sometimes =)
@STIRKDAWG i watch alot of news dumbass. and the way you askedyour question sounds like you want to rape little girls lol fuck this were talking about cars man i was just saying the ferrari got raped like a kittle girl as in i didnt stand a chance against the cts v
The Ferrari may be faster if they actually tried, but the Cadillac already beat the ferrari california on top gear america. im sure it could hang fairly well with this. and for a LOT less money i would go with the Cadillac
HAHA lots of haters here... funny how angry people get. I guess people are just so darn passionate about their cars.
Everyone has their own taste. Ferrari will always be a Ferrari. Don't worry Ferrari boys, girls will still look at your car before the V! lol... They don't care that it's not as fast as the V!
@3XICS , Yeah the CTS-V is better, the Ferrari is an overpriced piece of trouble. Cadillac makes of the best automobiles in the world, nothing more dependable.............or faster.
@autolinedaily really?! i saw just one race track test and there the gt2 had a better time, but not much... but nice to hear, my favs are the US cars!! ;)
The Cadillac won this race, and whether or not the 458 is a better handling car on a circuit we have yet to see a video of the two cars racing on a circuit. But there is one thing is for sure. We haven't heard of any Cadillac CTS-Vs catching on fire due to a manufacturing defect.............. just saying.
@theodor33e Charger 392 is sick...the interior on the Cadillac is 10x nicer, but it depends on what your looking for...Don't forget the V will run 20K more too
V. My friend owns the 458 and we have run each other many times in our other cars. The 458458 was stock. The V had simple bolt on mods that dyno'd a bit over 600whp. The video proves nothing other than with some simple mods, a heavy 4 door American sedan can run from a 40 roll (and beat) Vipers, Z06's, 458's etc. Wich car you prefer to drive is up to personal taste. But you can not deny how impressive these sedans are with some simple and reliable mods.
@ohioko4s4 I agree with you, but its still 600whp.. Thats a lot of power.. At the wheel the ferrari may barely get 500whp considering the its 570hp at the crank.. Also its not that heavy.. only 3800.. Camaro's weigh the same and its a two door. having 80 to 100 extra hp will make up for the 650lb difference from of the 458 which is why the race was so close.. Not to mention its a borrowed corvette engine.. I'm just saying.. But i do agree.. those mods make a huge difference for the low price..
@SDkawi6 a 458 does not weigh 3800 pounds dude! Maybe a 599 does, but not no 458! Try subtracting 500 pounds from that 3800 and you'll have your answer!
Ferrari didn't have straight line speed in mind when they made the 458. The Italians don't give a s*** if your cts-v is faster in a straight line. You get into the corners and the story turns around with the 458 leading by miles. Don't compare a tank of a car made by GM to a handmade piece of art made by a couple guys in Maranello. There is no comparison and never will be. I'll start to consider GM being on Ferrari's level when GM is racing in Formula 1.
@G34Rs Ok and did Ferrari not copy GM's Magnetic Ride Control?, looks like the guys in Maranello are behind cause us "Yanks" have been beating Euro crap for years. You talk about our old suspensions and push rod engines while they are faster than your Euro crap, Dodge Viper ACR, Corvette ZR1, Hennessey Venom GT, Cadillac CTS-V, Boss Mustang, all can beat the Euro rivals with out a problem, so what all that technology and money going to?, some dead cow skin in your car?
@noriceformeplz As a C6 corvette owner I love CTS-Vs and ZR-1s, but you gotta admit that Ferrari suspensions and traction controlls are a bit more sophisticated and better balanced, even if by a fraction. With that being said, hell yea Corvettes had Magnetorheological shocks before Ferraris. And no matter how balanced they may be, Corvettes usually get better lap times.
@G34Rs Corvettes dominate at Sebring and 24 Hours of Lemans. And if you think about it, the cars in those races are closer to the production versions than the cars in Formula One.
@G34Rs F1 shows nothing about factory cars. The CTS-V is a pretty cool car. If performance is what you're worried about. Compare lap times on nurbugring to the zr-1.for half the price.
@Verification11 there's no replacement for displacement! those cts-v's made over 100 ft/lbs more torque than the 458. since it's a boosted engine, i'm sure his bolt ons make the torque advantage way crazier. sweet ride!
Face it Europeans, American engines produce MASSSIVE power and extreme torque for a fraction of your price. and face it Americans, Europeans cars have BETTER details and build quality. all depends on personal preference and social status. why argue so much... i LOVE Ferrari's (458 is my dream car), i don't like how it lost but a race is a race and cts-v won, and i RESPECT it for that.
@monkeymarine291 It was set up. The Ferrari is over all faster and has better acceleration. This american most of been so butthurt he had to set up a video. The CTS is heavily modified and the Ferrari isnt and still he Ferrari is faster. Other cars> American
Cadillac CTS-V n'ring lap time = 7:59. (GIANT s'charged V8)
Ferrari 458 n'ring lap time = 7:32. (tiny NA V8 making same bhp)
Stupid Americans. I'm sad to call myself one with with idiots like this.......we're the only country which actually likes drag racing....what a f'ing joke.
@KalEl600rr Name a DOHC American made motor that is a fraction as good as the 458s. Yeah isn't it funny? The caddy has a giant displacement motor with a s'charger yet still only just makes the same power as a much smaller NA motor. I love American companies, but they are cheap bastards. They have the technology to build brilliant motors but they refuse to all in the name of the almighty dollar. I will never buy an American car again unless their paradigm changes.
@Selmerpilot Stupid argument. EG. The LS7 motor in the z06 is lighter than the motor in the carrera gt, m5 v10, the enzo and ferrari f430. The 458 motor is barely lighter.
Not to mention american engines are way more reliable and require way less maintenance.
The aluminium block V8 in the ford GT can withstand enormous amounts of boost on the stock block as witnessed by the numerous 800+ whp GTs running around on untouched motors.
@Selmerpilot I suggest you study the technology that goes into making the LS7 and LS9 and LSA motors and come back to this argument again.
Anyone can use a longer stroke to make more hp/l. Its about reliability and maintenance and power.
Im from dubai, In the summer here it hits 120F+ during noon. All ferraris and lamborghinis and maseratis stay parked all day long while people in corvettes drive their cars without any problems
Out here, we prove what an engine is worth and the LS7 is a gem
@KalEl600rr Love GM products but the LS7 has had some issues of late n GM isn't very accommodating to even the owners of STOCK C6Z. Valve guide issues seems to be the culprit. These aren't very common but it's an issue for some who occasionally track their cars. I agreed about hot weather driving. The exotics aren't as DD friendly as a Z. As for this CTS-V. Has to have massive mods. The F458 is a 131MPH car in 1/4 mile to 120 for the V. V must have pulley swap full exhaust tune. Impressive still
@KalEl600rr BHP per liter ratio is horrid. 7 liters!!! come on, that's junk. Yes, the LS7 is a truck engine which works fine and even races fine but it is hardly an engineering masterpiece. I live in Las Vegas and I cannot get my Ferrari to overheat. On the track is a different story though. Both the LS7 and the Ferrari have inadequate oil cooling systems in stock cars. On the track the 458GT with a tiny motor just wiped the floor with Corvettes in the petit lemans
@Selmerpilot LS7 is physically smaller than the 4.3 v8 in the f430. The f458 motor is 437 lbs dressed while the LS7 is 458lbs. Only 11lbs heavier but produces more torque and is infinitely more reliable.
Second, its not an engineering masterpiece? its a 7.0 motor revs to 7100 rpm and produces a flat torque curve. It uses titanium con-rods/retainers, low friction lubricious polymer coating on the piston skirts and has titanium intake ports and sodium filled exhaust ports.
@KalEl600rr The LS7 block is undoubtedly larger. It revs high due to Ti components yes, but 7L of cubic displacement with the kind of compression they are running is horribly inefficient. With modern technology there is no excuse for them not making at least 100bhp/L. For a pushrod motor it's great, but pushrod motors are a thing of the past and that's where they should have been left, in the past. GM needs a 4 cam 180 degree fire V8, but they won't do it due to traditionalist buyers.
@Selmerpilot Like I said, hp/l is a USELESS stastic. ANYONE can use a longer stroke and get high hp/l. Its only impressive to people who know nothing about engines.
Engineering is making a motor that produces that is physically small and lighter, revs high, makes power THROUGH OUT the powerband and has reliability of a daily driver.
And this car with a pushrod motor destroyed all comers including the new 12 GTR and 458 at laguna seca by more than 4 seconds. (mt hot lap, sept 2011)
@KalEl600rr HP/L is not a useful statistic? I'll bet my engineering degree it is. It's only *the* most useful statistic as it shows combustion efficiency and rotating mass efficiency of the motor. If it wasn't important then every manufacturer would use a supercharger or turbo. Wow. Get help. The LS7 is a means to an end and given an unlimited budget they would build a proper engine. I tip my hat to GM for making a car at a certain price point, but it's an exercise in futility engineering-wise
@Selmerpilot hp/l shows how much power is made per liter, it does not show anything important like weight, size, power curve or tech etc Thats why its a ricer statistic.
Hp/l would say my 600rr motor is the most advanced engine in the world. Makes over 200hp/l stock.
And please, instead of calling it a truck motor, please explain how come it is more powerful, lighter, physically smaller and much more robust than a f430 v8 or bmw 5.0L V10 (same gen)?
@Selmerpilot Your ignorant is showing. LS7 is a product of years of racing experience .It has more in common with a race car. the C5.R and the C6.R than anything else. Its one of the most advanced engines put in a road car. A 7.0L V8 that revs to over 7k RPM and is endurace tested to easily handle 8K RPM. The internals have more tech than your simple mind can ever understand or appreciate. As mentioned here, its a 7L V8 thats LIGHTER than a 4.2 ferrari V8.
@slblack this has turned more into a fanboy pissing contest than facts. Fact, LS7 is lighter yet larger displacement and makes less power. Did GM deduce a way to make their engine lighter because they knew their efficiency was waning? probably. 20lbs weight difference is nothing, however 125bhp/L to 73bhp/L is. I'm wiping my hands from this nonsense. The LS7 is a evolved truck engine and not a soul will waitlist 2 years for one like Ferrari's engines command. Nice try
@Selmerpilot What you dont seem address is how with all the knowhow and tech that ferrari has, it couldnt make a motor that is lighter or more reliable than a big old 427 'truck engine'? (15k service intervals vs 25k)
Better yet, explain what exactly makes the ferrari engines better than the LS7. What about the internals of the ferrari engine is better exactly?
Technical facts please, none of this childish hp/l garbage.
@Selmerpilot Why would GM make a heavy, unreliable motor that needs a ton of maintenance when they have one that makes instant power, huge torque, its smaller and lighter and is STILL robust enough to survive dubai's heat when ferraris and lamborghinis are afraid to go out even?
Its 140lb lighter than the 3.8L V6 in the GTR and produces far more torque and power. The motor makes the z06 into a four wheeled rocket sled. There is no match for p/w and power delivery of an LS7.
@KalEl600rr other than the ls3/ls9 thats in the zr-1. the ls7 has thinner cylinder walls than the ls3/ls9 so it cant handle superchargers as well. thats why they didnt put the 7.0 liter in the zr1
again another rigged video by americans...a 458 italia with a 0-60 of under 3.3 beaten by a car with a 0-60 of 3.9?? unless that cadalac was tuned to over 800 hp...and americans wonder why people put planes into there buildings ??
@mammo8369 look noob, those times are 0-60 like you stated. They went from a ROLL... and the Caddy has 556hp barely pulling away. GM > Ferrari (always brake down anyway)
@polaris2299 well its simple noob..anything with huge amounts of torque and power will go better from a rolling start...the 458 will KILL this from a standing start and on the track when it comes to cornering...
americans are simple, they make things go in a straight line or around an OVAL track like nascar..put this cadalac on a windy road and the ferrari will eat it, even with half the hp....or tune the ferrari to the same HP and its a different ball game
@mammo8369 you cant use a pun that was used agaisnt you derp. Don't hate on drag racing because Ferrari doesnt compete, don't hate on NASCAR because Ferrari doesn't compete there either, oh but does Chevy and Cadillac compete over on your tracks? you better believe and the C5R/C6R Vettes have been owning it for their class and the CTS-V race cars finished 1-2 if i recall not that long ago. Know what you are talking about before isnerting foot in mouth... oh btw the Caddy won in this video
@polaris2299 yeh in this video..tune that STOCK ferrari and lets see what happens....americans always rig races, the stock 458 has quicker acceleration that the cad, which proves it isnt stock....no car beats a ferrari unless its tuned..italians have been KINGS of natural aspiration for 20 years, you have to tune to keep up..
by the way whats the top speed on that cad..yer thats right less than the 458 !! if ferrari wanted a drag car they would make a twin turbo monster, actually they are atm..
lol alot of people are getting butt hurt b/c a caddy beat a Ferrari. its not well if this happened or if something was different. blah blah blah its not the outcome of the race in this video will be the same whether you bitch about it or not.
that is stock cts v . I guarantee that . from standstill ferrari would have won , because of its great lauch control. If the ctsv would be modified it would left 458 in the smokes. not many people realize what a beasts the new generation of ctsv cars are
This CTS-V must have at least ~700hp to keep up with the 458. It means that it is NOT stock. This hp surplus can conpensate the disatvantages of the CTS-V from weight, aerodinamics, transmission, etc...
And besides the +150hp & 6.2 l, she needs a supercharger in addition to be able to compete versus a european 4.5l n/a. It's not the same league.
@Hyperboreai What are you thinking trying to argue its not in the same league. One is a mid range luxury sedan and one is an exotic Italian super car. Any two year old would be able to tell the difference. But frankly, the CTS doesnt need to be tuned to win. It has roughly the same bhp, but has more torque. Of course, with the lack of launch control and a dual clutch gear box, the 458 would smoke it from a start. But that isnt what this video is about. you just need to think before you write.
@CrazyStuntmen8000 Ok, easy, my friend. Don't be crazy! A stock CTS-V would never win against a 458. It's obvious, just look at their technical data, acceleration. A stock 458 can keep up with an AUDI RS6 Evotech (700hp). Torque alone is nothing. Every family diesel car have more torque then an EVO. And which one do you think would win? None of the (stock) sedans are faster than a real sports car. And again: this CTS is NOT stock, I'm sure.
you guys need to do a little research if you believe a stock cts-v can beat a ferrari 458. Its no competition they are completely 2 different cars in 2 different price ranges.
@ddawg132 A stock CTSV can. They may be different price ranges but they have roughly the same bhp. The CTSV has more torque, so from a rolling start it won. From a standstill, the 458 wouldve won, with its lauch control and dual clutch gear box. You sir, need to do your research.
@CrazyStuntmen8000 This is just to clear everything up, because ur all so painfully stupid and ignorant. I am american living in san diego so this has nothing to do with culture im not italian. 458: 0-60: 3.2 1/4mile: 11.5 HP: 570 TQ: 400 ------>>>> --->>>>CURB WEIGHT: 3300lbs CTS-V: 0-60: 4.1 1/4mile: 12.3 HP: 555 TQ: 550 ------>>>>--->>> CURB WEIGHT: 4240 almost 1000lbs difference in weight.... enough said k?
@Lantho650 that's why vintage Ferraris from 50 years ago are selling for 30 mills in perfect condition, shut up man. don't be a patriot, be objective, US is not he center of the Earth.
all of you proud americans patriots fail to tell how much tuning are in those cheap plastic american cars. it's no wonder that nobody is buying your cars but you, and all of our cars are being sold in US like hot bread. people with good taste and money will always buy an EU car and not a cheap plastic car. curse now!!!
Quite obviously that's a tuned CTS-V. Nothing special here.. move along, move along,,
kubemaster 1 day ago
ill take a caddy over a ferrari anyday .. i dont need no super fast car... if i buy a caddy i think it has more then enough power and luxury for me.
NeighborKid 4 days ago
Props, but no way that CTS-V is stock; heavier, less aerodynamic, and less power.
makisp2 4 days ago
hahhahah Lol the cady's win
nivri00 1 week ago
I'm not an American hater. The Corvettte is awesome esp for the price, I wouldn't be caught dead in a truck that's not a Silverado, love old school Caddies + Chevys...I just don't think any partially sane person would opt for a CTS-V over a friggin 458 if given the choice. I don't care what the comments say...
keithskillz90210 1 week ago
@keithskillz90210 I'd snatch both keys and take them both. They're both on my list of dream cars.
MrThestig8 5 days ago
And as far as the CBR 1000 goes, you'd wipe out in 2nd gear...
72fasterthanyou 1 week ago
If it was "engineered" so well, it would be faster. What is it with you anti American haters? Even when we make something that kicks ass you still don't give props... For the price of that "engineering" I'll buy 3 Caddy's so my wife and daughter can walk on you as well.
72fasterthanyou 1 week ago 2
I would rather have a stock 2007+ BMW 328 sedan than a brand new CTS-V...let alone a brand new 458. Shove that crap
keithskillz90210 2 weeks ago
@keithskillz90210 what are you, a retard? Obviously you feel threatened - let's hear your bullshit excuse..
BlockBig10 2 weeks ago
@BlockBig10 "She's" not threatened "she's" a fanboy lol.
bigtony142 2 weeks ago
@BlockBig10 I'm not threatened at all...I'm just a fan of fine engineering & a great driving experience...instead of a bunch of power, noise & plastic. Sorry 'bigphony142.' If it was all about going fast & saying 'whoopee,' I'd jump on a $10k Honda CBR 1K & kick anybody's ass driving anything less than $500k which includes all primitive American cars...courtesy of Japan. America is at halftime....& has been for quite some time now.
keithskillz90210 1 week ago
@keithskillz90210 As a fan of "fine engineering" and a "great driving experience", can you please tell me, or better yet, post a video of which car you put your money into?
yammieR12003 1 week ago
@yammieR12003 There are thousands of videos out there but watch this since I recorded it myself. Bring your CTS-V to this fight /watch?v=ouic_rGs0YQ
keithskillz90210 1 week ago
@keithskillz90210 Sorry if I wasnt being clear in my question. I asked what you actually put your money into (i.e. what do you own). Is that your UGR lambo? Or the honda camera car?
yammieR12003 1 week ago
@yammieR12003 sorry, i misread. I own a stock 2010 BMW 328 coupe with sport package. Not fast AT ALL, but truly a blissful driving experience. The honda was my company car.
keithskillz90210 6 days ago
made in the U.S.A
Mrdeandean100 2 weeks ago
@Mrdeandean100 Makes me proud too!
technofi2011 2 weeks ago
@technofi2011 AMERICa!
Mrdeandean100 2 weeks ago
Best way to compare these two is like ferrari is a cockroach and the caddy is a size 13 boot ready to squash hahaha
Trx450rallday 3 weeks ago 2
@STIRKDAWG taking shit too literally you need to chill out
Trx450rallday 3 weeks ago
id like to see my dads cts-v coupe vs the ferrari 458
dominicdominate 1 month ago
ouch....did you ever think we would see the day where a 2011 Top line Ferrari would be getting its ass handed to it by a freakin caddie?! Worlds funny sometimes =)
GTO19020 1 month ago 17
@GTO19020 Do you know Ferrari used the Cadillac 's suspension technology on that 458?
IDontHateOnCars 6 days ago
@IDontHateOnCars yeah...i know. CTS-V = my dream car.
GTO19020 5 days ago
We had CTS V @ shop amazingly fast
AUTORINOMOTORSPORTS 1 month ago
CTS-V's gotta be tuned...
twztd28 1 month ago
Tom Po raped me
cdub6969 1 month ago
@STIRKDAWG i watch alot of news dumbass. and the way you askedyour question sounds like you want to rape little girls lol fuck this were talking about cars man i was just saying the ferrari got raped like a kittle girl as in i didnt stand a chance against the cts v
Trx450rallday 1 month ago
@Trx450rallday "Little girl rape" isn't really an apropos simile for a drag race. Pick a different way to describe it next time, Creep!
STIRKDAWG 3 weeks ago
Caddy is modded and putting out over 600hp to the wheels
CTSV4MEE 1 month ago
ferrari got raped like a little girl lol
Trx450rallday 1 month ago
@Trx450rallday GROSS. Do you know a lot of little girls that got raped?
STIRKDAWG 1 month ago
ferrari owner needs the driver mod, or that caddy isn't stock 'cause last i looked the caddy doesn't run 10.9 stock.
flauretta 1 month ago
if this is a race to catch fire first, i think the ferrari is gonna win
PepperGnome12 1 month ago 16
CTS V, 556 hp. What did the Caddy say to the Ferrari? How you like me now?
FSEVENMAN 2 months ago
Fuck yeah Cadillac, and you can have another two friends along.
FSEVENMAN 2 months ago
The Ferrari may be faster if they actually tried, but the Cadillac already beat the ferrari california on top gear america. im sure it could hang fairly well with this. and for a LOT less money i would go with the Cadillac
Rob10321 2 months ago
Im one for the underdog but 458s scream that one didnt it did seem like it wasnt shifting at high revs
boostmecoupeup 2 months ago
That CTS-V is soo sweet! I love that car, the Italia also :)
FirEhiT001 2 months ago
Whats up with the 458 short shifting?
luv2mx 2 months ago
How much power does that CTS-V have? I'm guessing a lot.
Hello6761 2 months ago
@Hello6761 i guess 568..not quite sure...
dninetyc 2 months ago
does anybody else think the national anthem should be playing in this video?
codeeLS6 2 months ago
Nothing will beat GM performance
steelrain210 2 months ago
HAHA lots of haters here... funny how angry people get. I guess people are just so darn passionate about their cars.
Everyone has their own taste. Ferrari will always be a Ferrari. Don't worry Ferrari boys, girls will still look at your car before the V! lol... They don't care that it's not as fast as the V!
GethinJames 2 months ago
Wow! The Caddi is better looking and faster. They can keep that pasta rocket shit on the other side of the pond.
Beezer32279 2 months ago
@Beezer32279 Better looking!?!?!?!?!?!?!? D:? It is definitely faster in anything from a dig as well.
AustinDeM 2 months ago
@AustinDeM The Ferrari is faster from a dig.
AustinDeM 2 months ago
Why does the Caddilac a 4 door luxury car get the CTS-V makes sports cars look like gimmicks
SuperLoriek 3 months ago
suck that enzo....
GL0CK19onboard 3 months ago
@GL0CK19onboard
Are you an idiot?
BenSteigerwald 3 months ago
@BenSteigerwald . I sure am Steinberg. piss off.
GL0CK19onboard 2 months ago
Hell if a bolt on CTS-V can beat a Ferrari 458 just imagine what a bolt on ZL1 can do..... What all mods do you got to the CTS-V
DoggyB22 3 months ago
@mammo8369 haha, i'm definitely into the poor mans game!!
swissfox87 3 months ago
@Camaromandave98 my dads ctsv steals f430 lunch money
MrLiam0118 3 months ago
I DOUBT IT
therock505505 3 months ago
Seriously ? Are you people suggesting that the CTS-V is better ? They are not even in the same class.
3XICS 3 months ago
@3XICS , Yeah the CTS-V is better, the Ferrari is an overpriced piece of trouble. Cadillac makes of the best automobiles in the world, nothing more dependable.............or faster.
TheMadSyrupMaker 3 months ago
both are bone stock
both have basically the same horsepower(556)
its a battle against weight
sk8r4lif3luke 3 months ago
just like to say no way you gave that 458 full power.
rostron1234 3 months ago
@autolinedaily really?! i saw just one race track test and there the gt2 had a better time, but not much... but nice to hear, my favs are the US cars!! ;)
swissfox87 3 months ago
jajajajajaja a huevo cadillac much power !!
fredyjunior87 3 months ago
The Cadillac won this race, and whether or not the 458 is a better handling car on a circuit we have yet to see a video of the two cars racing on a circuit. But there is one thing is for sure. We haven't heard of any Cadillac CTS-Vs catching on fire due to a manufacturing defect.............. just saying.
minivan442 3 months ago 2
Mod list plz?
proto12qs 3 months ago
@headtufino haha, a zr1 will beat almost every european car on the race track.. you need a porsche gt2 rs to keep up with a zr1..
swissfox87 3 months ago
@swissfox87 Even then , the GT2 rs can't even keep up with the ZR1
AutoLineDaily 3 months ago
its so quiet, its got baby exhaust
Aft3rMathProductiion 3 months ago
Euro cars have better handling in a REAL race track with corners
headtufino 3 months ago
why wouldn't he be at full throttle do you people think he WANTS to be beaten by a 4 door caddi in his mid engined Italian supper car
surredneck66 3 months ago
you can tell that F458 is not firing the full revs..it sunds like it's on automatic mode.
vitto 3 months ago
now take them to the track and see which is faster
tibojones 3 months ago
nice work with the V...I have a 11 v-coupe - what bolt-ons did you add and what company?? D3?? thanks
rayjoedef 3 months ago
damn my pride is kind of hurt... but ill still pick the 458!
fpatolot01 3 months ago
Great daily driver there!!
225TTuned 3 months ago
doesnt seemto be full throttle
chrisluvjh 3 months ago
Im stuck between getting the cts V or the Charger SRT8 ;(
theodor33e 3 months ago
@theodor33e Charger 392 is sick...the interior on the Cadillac is 10x nicer, but it depends on what your looking for...Don't forget the V will run 20K more too
doubleeyegouge 3 months ago
@theodor33e DUDE STAY AWAY FROM CHRYSLER.
thejuice3 3 months ago
@thejuice3 Y yu say that ?
theodor33e 3 months ago
fake
francisco232021 3 months ago
Its all about the ls motor
AMISRAELCHAI4EVER 3 months ago
Cady ftw
Jx1x3 3 months ago
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uplandassault 3 months ago
wait....... didnt the video just show the cts v winning? so why all the confusion?
xripperx898 3 months ago
V. My friend owns the 458 and we have run each other many times in our other cars. The 458458 was stock. The V had simple bolt on mods that dyno'd a bit over 600whp. The video proves nothing other than with some simple mods, a heavy 4 door American sedan can run from a 40 roll (and beat) Vipers, Z06's, 458's etc. Wich car you prefer to drive is up to personal taste. But you can not deny how impressive these sedans are with some simple and reliable mods.
ohioko4s4 3 months ago 26
@ohioko4s4 I agree with you, but its still 600whp.. Thats a lot of power.. At the wheel the ferrari may barely get 500whp considering the its 570hp at the crank.. Also its not that heavy.. only 3800.. Camaro's weigh the same and its a two door. having 80 to 100 extra hp will make up for the 650lb difference from of the 458 which is why the race was so close.. Not to mention its a borrowed corvette engine.. I'm just saying.. But i do agree.. those mods make a huge difference for the low price..
SDkawi6 3 months ago
@SDkawi6 a 458 does not weigh 3800 pounds dude! Maybe a 599 does, but not no 458! Try subtracting 500 pounds from that 3800 and you'll have your answer!
goodfella949 3 months ago
@goodfella949 my bad bro, i was talking about the cts-v.. lol.. my bad.. haha :)
SDkawi6 3 months ago
@ohioko4s4: Thats pretty good for a car that weighs 1000lbs more.
V8Supercar1 3 months ago
@ohioko4s4 What are the simple bolt-ons out of curiosity?
ThirdHonk 3 months ago
@ohioko4s4 a lot of ppl for example underestimate the dodge charger....slap on few simple mods and that thing flys for weighing 4200lbs
Dimmuborgir6969 3 months ago
@ohioko4s4 excellent post my friend
scottiethebody0 3 months ago
@ohioko4s4
Ferrari didn't have straight line speed in mind when they made the 458. The Italians don't give a s*** if your cts-v is faster in a straight line. You get into the corners and the story turns around with the 458 leading by miles. Don't compare a tank of a car made by GM to a handmade piece of art made by a couple guys in Maranello. There is no comparison and never will be. I'll start to consider GM being on Ferrari's level when GM is racing in Formula 1.
G34Rs 3 months ago
@G34Rs Ok and did Ferrari not copy GM's Magnetic Ride Control?, looks like the guys in Maranello are behind cause us "Yanks" have been beating Euro crap for years. You talk about our old suspensions and push rod engines while they are faster than your Euro crap, Dodge Viper ACR, Corvette ZR1, Hennessey Venom GT, Cadillac CTS-V, Boss Mustang, all can beat the Euro rivals with out a problem, so what all that technology and money going to?, some dead cow skin in your car?
noriceformeplz 3 months ago
@noriceformeplz As a C6 corvette owner I love CTS-Vs and ZR-1s, but you gotta admit that Ferrari suspensions and traction controlls are a bit more sophisticated and better balanced, even if by a fraction. With that being said, hell yea Corvettes had Magnetorheological shocks before Ferraris. And no matter how balanced they may be, Corvettes usually get better lap times.
epsilonian818 2 months ago
@noriceformeplz Almost brought a tear to my eye. Beautiful, and the truth.
Rsvideohub 2 months ago
@noriceformeplz dead cow skin makes you get laid:)
MrTianak69 2 months ago
@G34Rs Corvettes dominate at Sebring and 24 Hours of Lemans. And if you think about it, the cars in those races are closer to the production versions than the cars in Formula One.
epsilonian818 2 months ago
@G34Rs F1 shows nothing about factory cars. The CTS-V is a pretty cool car. If performance is what you're worried about. Compare lap times on nurbugring to the zr-1.for half the price.
Karadimos 2 months ago
@ohioko4s4 torque advantage ??
Verification11 3 months ago
@Verification11 there's no replacement for displacement! those cts-v's made over 100 ft/lbs more torque than the 458. since it's a boosted engine, i'm sure his bolt ons make the torque advantage way crazier. sweet ride!
adamjames25 2 months ago
In response to many of the ridiculous comments, I decided to post some clarifications. I am the owner of the CTS-
ohioko4s4 3 months ago 3
Face it Europeans, American engines produce MASSSIVE power and extreme torque for a fraction of your price. and face it Americans, Europeans cars have BETTER details and build quality. all depends on personal preference and social status. why argue so much... i LOVE Ferrari's (458 is my dream car), i don't like how it lost but a race is a race and cts-v won, and i RESPECT it for that.
peter226688 3 months ago
@2DoesMakeADifference wohoo, straightline performance is nice to have, but on a track, the cadi would explode in the trees.
enta2k 3 months ago
hahahahaha win sedan
jonasnyder 3 months ago
@2DoesMakeADifference It was set up idiot. The Ferrari didnt even pass 4000 RPM showing that it was set up.
banddude121 3 months ago
@monkeymarine291 It was set up. The Ferrari is over all faster and has better acceleration. This american most of been so butthurt he had to set up a video. The CTS is heavily modified and the Ferrari isnt and still he Ferrari is faster. Other cars> American
banddude121 3 months ago
Cadillac CTS-V n'ring lap time = 7:59. (GIANT s'charged V8)
Ferrari 458 n'ring lap time = 7:32. (tiny NA V8 making same bhp)
Stupid Americans. I'm sad to call myself one with with idiots like this.......we're the only country which actually likes drag racing....what a f'ing joke.
Selmerpilot 3 months ago
@Selmerpilot Did you just compare an OHV motor to a DOHC?
Idiot.
KalEl600rr 3 months ago
@KalEl600rr Name a DOHC American made motor that is a fraction as good as the 458s. Yeah isn't it funny? The caddy has a giant displacement motor with a s'charger yet still only just makes the same power as a much smaller NA motor. I love American companies, but they are cheap bastards. They have the technology to build brilliant motors but they refuse to all in the name of the almighty dollar. I will never buy an American car again unless their paradigm changes.
Selmerpilot 3 months ago
@Selmerpilot Stupid argument. EG. The LS7 motor in the z06 is lighter than the motor in the carrera gt, m5 v10, the enzo and ferrari f430. The 458 motor is barely lighter.
Not to mention american engines are way more reliable and require way less maintenance.
The aluminium block V8 in the ford GT can withstand enormous amounts of boost on the stock block as witnessed by the numerous 800+ whp GTs running around on untouched motors.
Im not american, but I can respect a good motor.
KalEl600rr 3 months ago
@Selmerpilot I suggest you study the technology that goes into making the LS7 and LS9 and LSA motors and come back to this argument again.
Anyone can use a longer stroke to make more hp/l. Its about reliability and maintenance and power.
Im from dubai, In the summer here it hits 120F+ during noon. All ferraris and lamborghinis and maseratis stay parked all day long while people in corvettes drive their cars without any problems
Out here, we prove what an engine is worth and the LS7 is a gem
KalEl600rr 3 months ago
@KalEl600rr Love GM products but the LS7 has had some issues of late n GM isn't very accommodating to even the owners of STOCK C6Z. Valve guide issues seems to be the culprit. These aren't very common but it's an issue for some who occasionally track their cars. I agreed about hot weather driving. The exotics aren't as DD friendly as a Z. As for this CTS-V. Has to have massive mods. The F458 is a 131MPH car in 1/4 mile to 120 for the V. V must have pulley swap full exhaust tune. Impressive still
westy44cal 3 months ago
@KalEl600rr BHP per liter ratio is horrid. 7 liters!!! come on, that's junk. Yes, the LS7 is a truck engine which works fine and even races fine but it is hardly an engineering masterpiece. I live in Las Vegas and I cannot get my Ferrari to overheat. On the track is a different story though. Both the LS7 and the Ferrari have inadequate oil cooling systems in stock cars. On the track the 458GT with a tiny motor just wiped the floor with Corvettes in the petit lemans
Selmerpilot 3 months ago
@Selmerpilot HP/L is a ricer stastic. Id rather compare engine outputs, physical size and weight, robustness and internal valve and piston technology.
talking about HP/L makes your opinion irrelevant and shows that you know nothing about motors. No need to reply to you any more.
KalEl600rr 3 months ago
@Selmerpilot LS7 is physically smaller than the 4.3 v8 in the f430. The f458 motor is 437 lbs dressed while the LS7 is 458lbs. Only 11lbs heavier but produces more torque and is infinitely more reliable.
Second, its not an engineering masterpiece? its a 7.0 motor revs to 7100 rpm and produces a flat torque curve. It uses titanium con-rods/retainers, low friction lubricious polymer coating on the piston skirts and has titanium intake ports and sodium filled exhaust ports.
Thats a truck engine?
KalEl600rr 3 months ago
@KalEl600rr The LS7 block is undoubtedly larger. It revs high due to Ti components yes, but 7L of cubic displacement with the kind of compression they are running is horribly inefficient. With modern technology there is no excuse for them not making at least 100bhp/L. For a pushrod motor it's great, but pushrod motors are a thing of the past and that's where they should have been left, in the past. GM needs a 4 cam 180 degree fire V8, but they won't do it due to traditionalist buyers.
Selmerpilot 3 months ago
@Selmerpilot Like I said, hp/l is a USELESS stastic. ANYONE can use a longer stroke and get high hp/l. Its only impressive to people who know nothing about engines.
Engineering is making a motor that produces that is physically small and lighter, revs high, makes power THROUGH OUT the powerband and has reliability of a daily driver.
And this car with a pushrod motor destroyed all comers including the new 12 GTR and 458 at laguna seca by more than 4 seconds. (mt hot lap, sept 2011)
KalEl600rr 3 months ago
@KalEl600rr HP/L is not a useful statistic? I'll bet my engineering degree it is. It's only *the* most useful statistic as it shows combustion efficiency and rotating mass efficiency of the motor. If it wasn't important then every manufacturer would use a supercharger or turbo. Wow. Get help. The LS7 is a means to an end and given an unlimited budget they would build a proper engine. I tip my hat to GM for making a car at a certain price point, but it's an exercise in futility engineering-wise
Selmerpilot 3 months ago
@Selmerpilot hp/l shows how much power is made per liter, it does not show anything important like weight, size, power curve or tech etc Thats why its a ricer statistic.
Hp/l would say my 600rr motor is the most advanced engine in the world. Makes over 200hp/l stock.
And please, instead of calling it a truck motor, please explain how come it is more powerful, lighter, physically smaller and much more robust than a f430 v8 or bmw 5.0L V10 (same gen)?
KalEl600rr 3 months ago
@Selmerpilot Your ignorant is showing. LS7 is a product of years of racing experience .It has more in common with a race car. the C5.R and the C6.R than anything else. Its one of the most advanced engines put in a road car. A 7.0L V8 that revs to over 7k RPM and is endurace tested to easily handle 8K RPM. The internals have more tech than your simple mind can ever understand or appreciate. As mentioned here, its a 7L V8 thats LIGHTER than a 4.2 ferrari V8.
slblack 3 months ago
@slblack this has turned more into a fanboy pissing contest than facts. Fact, LS7 is lighter yet larger displacement and makes less power. Did GM deduce a way to make their engine lighter because they knew their efficiency was waning? probably. 20lbs weight difference is nothing, however 125bhp/L to 73bhp/L is. I'm wiping my hands from this nonsense. The LS7 is a evolved truck engine and not a soul will waitlist 2 years for one like Ferrari's engines command. Nice try
Selmerpilot 3 months ago
@Selmerpilot What you dont seem address is how with all the knowhow and tech that ferrari has, it couldnt make a motor that is lighter or more reliable than a big old 427 'truck engine'? (15k service intervals vs 25k)
Better yet, explain what exactly makes the ferrari engines better than the LS7. What about the internals of the ferrari engine is better exactly?
Technical facts please, none of this childish hp/l garbage.
slblack 3 months ago
@Selmerpilot Why did it take ferrari a whole four years to make a 4.5l motor barely lighter than a 7.0L american 'truck engine'?
What excuse does bmw have for making a 5.0 v10 that physically larger and much heavier than an 'old school' 7.0L LS7?
Or AMG with its 6.3L
Or the Carrera GT V10
Or the lamborghini V10,V12
Or the Enzo V12
Or the GTR 3.8l V6 (600+lbs)
The point im trying to make is the ls7 is LIGHTER and SMALLER than all these motors. Whats the bad thing about that?
KalEl600rr 3 months ago
@Selmerpilot Why would GM make a heavy, unreliable motor that needs a ton of maintenance when they have one that makes instant power, huge torque, its smaller and lighter and is STILL robust enough to survive dubai's heat when ferraris and lamborghinis are afraid to go out even?
Its 140lb lighter than the 3.8L V6 in the GTR and produces far more torque and power. The motor makes the z06 into a four wheeled rocket sled. There is no match for p/w and power delivery of an LS7.
KalEl600rr 3 months ago 13
@KalEl600rr other than the ls3/ls9 thats in the zr-1. the ls7 has thinner cylinder walls than the ls3/ls9 so it cant handle superchargers as well. thats why they didnt put the 7.0 liter in the zr1
PearlDrumsAllDay94 3 months ago
@PearlDrumsAllDay94 Thanks for stating what the whole world knows.
KalEl600rr 3 months ago
@Selmerpilot This was either set up or the CTS is heavily modified.
banddude121 3 months ago
again another rigged video by americans...a 458 italia with a 0-60 of under 3.3 beaten by a car with a 0-60 of 3.9?? unless that cadalac was tuned to over 800 hp...and americans wonder why people put planes into there buildings ??
mammo8369 3 months ago
@mammo8369 look noob, those times are 0-60 like you stated. They went from a ROLL... and the Caddy has 556hp barely pulling away. GM > Ferrari (always brake down anyway)
polaris2299 3 months ago
@polaris2299 well its simple noob..anything with huge amounts of torque and power will go better from a rolling start...the 458 will KILL this from a standing start and on the track when it comes to cornering...
americans are simple, they make things go in a straight line or around an OVAL track like nascar..put this cadalac on a windy road and the ferrari will eat it, even with half the hp....or tune the ferrari to the same HP and its a different ball game
mammo8369 3 months ago
@mammo8369 you cant use a pun that was used agaisnt you derp. Don't hate on drag racing because Ferrari doesnt compete, don't hate on NASCAR because Ferrari doesn't compete there either, oh but does Chevy and Cadillac compete over on your tracks? you better believe and the C5R/C6R Vettes have been owning it for their class and the CTS-V race cars finished 1-2 if i recall not that long ago. Know what you are talking about before isnerting foot in mouth... oh btw the Caddy won in this video
polaris2299 3 months ago
@polaris2299 yeh in this video..tune that STOCK ferrari and lets see what happens....americans always rig races, the stock 458 has quicker acceleration that the cad, which proves it isnt stock....no car beats a ferrari unless its tuned..italians have been KINGS of natural aspiration for 20 years, you have to tune to keep up..
by the way whats the top speed on that cad..yer thats right less than the 458 !! if ferrari wanted a drag car they would make a twin turbo monster, actually they are atm..
mammo8369 3 months ago
@mammo8369 haha yea the top speed might be higher but which one gets to top speed first???? the v
PearlDrumsAllDay94 3 months ago
@PearlDrumsAllDay94 acceleration is a poor mans game...top speed is a rich mans game
mammo8369 3 months ago
@monkeymarine291 Its 458, sorry ive made a fault.
TaMereSuceMal 3 months ago
@monkeymarine291 Not a stock Cts-v. $58 italia destroys this cadillac in any aspect (when both are stock).
TaMereSuceMal 3 months ago
Doubt it
DHGxCODHeaDshot 3 months ago
man fuck all that bullshit you all are yapping, look: the CTS WON!! LoL!!
demariojason 4 months ago 12
Ferrari did not sound like he went over 6k rpm, neverf got on it at all.. Caddy would need 750 hp to run with an Italia 458
08turboSS 4 months ago
@08turboSS You cant tell if he was over 6k or not cuz the quality of camera. The italian stallion just got wrapped plain and simple!
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B18C5Teggy 4 months ago
lol alot of people are getting butt hurt b/c a caddy beat a Ferrari. its not well if this happened or if something was different. blah blah blah its not the outcome of the race in this video will be the same whether you bitch about it or not.
03silvermustang 4 months ago
that is stock cts v . I guarantee that . from standstill ferrari would have won , because of its great lauch control. If the ctsv would be modified it would left 458 in the smokes. not many people realize what a beasts the new generation of ctsv cars are
lo3mer 4 months ago
@lo3mer 0-60 in 3.9 is impressive for a sedan, so I have no doubt after the 60mph the cts-v is gone. In any race against a italita
Camaros5678 4 months ago
@lo3mer just seen a vid of a CTS-V with 120 shot destroy and supercharged Vette and a Viper so yes these Caddys are indeed beasts
polaris2299 3 months ago
sounds like the ferrari did not pass 4000 RPM; cause if it did the engine would be screaming a lot louder
Harutmakina 4 months ago
This CTS-V must have at least ~700hp to keep up with the 458. It means that it is NOT stock. This hp surplus can conpensate the disatvantages of the CTS-V from weight, aerodinamics, transmission, etc...
And besides the +150hp & 6.2 l, she needs a supercharger in addition to be able to compete versus a european 4.5l n/a. It's not the same league.
Hyperboreai 4 months ago
@Hyperboreai you forgot pricing the cadi only costs around 60,000 the ferrari does not
z8428 4 months ago
@z8428 I didn't. That's why I wrote: it's not the same league.
Hyperboreai 4 months ago
@Hyperboreai Its the driver of the Ferrari bro; terrible;
Harutmakina 4 months ago
@Hyperboreai What are you thinking trying to argue its not in the same league. One is a mid range luxury sedan and one is an exotic Italian super car. Any two year old would be able to tell the difference. But frankly, the CTS doesnt need to be tuned to win. It has roughly the same bhp, but has more torque. Of course, with the lack of launch control and a dual clutch gear box, the 458 would smoke it from a start. But that isnt what this video is about. you just need to think before you write.
CrazyStuntmen8000 4 months ago
@CrazyStuntmen8000 Ok, easy, my friend. Don't be crazy! A stock CTS-V would never win against a 458. It's obvious, just look at their technical data, acceleration. A stock 458 can keep up with an AUDI RS6 Evotech (700hp). Torque alone is nothing. Every family diesel car have more torque then an EVO. And which one do you think would win? None of the (stock) sedans are faster than a real sports car. And again: this CTS is NOT stock, I'm sure.
Hyperboreai 4 months ago
oh yeah cadillac
khaled6100 4 months ago
Not even worth discussing... :-(
Jayturbo71 4 months ago
hahaha get raped ferrari
ItzzFatal 4 months ago
you guys need to do a little research if you believe a stock cts-v can beat a ferrari 458. Its no competition they are completely 2 different cars in 2 different price ranges.
ddawg132 4 months ago
@ddawg132 This looked like a legit race to me.
daveyamudda 4 months ago
@ddawg132 A stock CTSV can. They may be different price ranges but they have roughly the same bhp. The CTSV has more torque, so from a rolling start it won. From a standstill, the 458 wouldve won, with its lauch control and dual clutch gear box. You sir, need to do your research.
CrazyStuntmen8000 4 months ago
ddawg132 4 months ago
the V puts out more than556 bhp... dyno a stock one and you'll see the numbers im talking about...upwards of 600...stock
bryancampbell511 4 months ago
Tuned Hard....
Bizness301 4 months ago
Corvette V8 engine is what makes it a beast!!!!!!
fletch00001 4 months ago
@Lantho650 that's why vintage Ferraris from 50 years ago are selling for 30 mills in perfect condition, shut up man. don't be a patriot, be objective, US is not he center of the Earth.
63Jax 4 months ago
all of you proud americans patriots fail to tell how much tuning are in those cheap plastic american cars. it's no wonder that nobody is buying your cars but you, and all of our cars are being sold in US like hot bread. people with good taste and money will always buy an EU car and not a cheap plastic car. curse now!!!
63Jax 4 months ago 2
@63Jax i agree! screw that old american engineering thats why i drive a BMW!
andeleputo89 4 months ago
@63Jax Typical EU niggerspeak
MAWLGIBSON 4 months ago
@MAWLGIBSON we don't call our black community in Europe ''niggers'' like you americans do, you fail again dude...
63Jax 4 months ago