Rick - You should be ashamed of yourself. Yes, you were a major part of Supertramp but Roger's vocals are what MADE Supertramp one of the greatest bands in the world. Hopefully you'll swollow your pride and extend an olive branch to Roger one of these days!! Like the song says, Just "Give a Little Bit"
Saw Supertramp yesterday @ Antwerpen. It was great! The two guys who did Rogers voice were good but Roger has this thing in his voice wich makes it so special. I missed that. I'm in love with his voice!
Saw Supertramp in Dublin last night, and they were FANTASTIC! I thought Jessee was brilliant - so talented. There was another young guy singing also, not sure of his name - Gabe, maybe?? but he was excellent too. I didn't miss Roger from the line up at all.... Great job Supertramp! Long may you continue!
@kingofallwhites I think you are giving more areguments why Roger Hogdson is not part of the reunion: he probably just demands and demands but he is not even a band member. I think Jessee and rest of band are doing just fine.
@Turbotalk I like Rick. I think his wife is so beautiful it's ridiculous. And I have nothing against the kid (Jesse). But this band doesn't feel like Supertamp. It's half-assed. And I am not saying that Rick, Bob or John are half-assed or that the other guys aren't good musicians. I am saying that paying all that money for a ticket to see some kid singing Roger's songs is pointless- and they play a lot of them.
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Man, I really love ST. I also like Hodgson solo and Supertramp after-Hodgson. They're all great. In my opinion, they should play only Davies' song. Not because the legal agreement, but because Hodgson songs without him are awful. Hart did a nice effort (and Jesse is doing ever better), but it isn't the same. I'd prefer to hear Davie singing something from Brother Where You Bound or even Free as a Bird than someone else singing Breakfast in America. Anyway, I'm looking forward for ST on Brazil!
Just saw on Roger's website that he has a new CD called "Classics Live". I am soooo excited about this. I think I have waited for something new from Roger for a long long time. Should be available soon for download. Has Roger solo, with a band and with an orchestra. I have seen him live and it is fantastic and I can't wait to be able to hear him live in my own living room. There's a free download of "Dreamer" from the CD if you go to his website. It's totally awesome!
A true Supertramp reunion tour would be something to behold. Unfortunately, that is not the case. Rick's songs are great. He should stick to his own music, instead of trying to insert pathetic imitations of the original brilliance of Roger's songs. Using Roger's face, voice, and music to promote this tour is a disservice to Supertramp fans. If you want to see & hear the real thing, check out Roger's current tour schedule on his website.. His voice is better than ever!
What possible harm could have come from Roger doing a show or two with Supertramp during this tour? Roger has not indicated he is interested in joining the group again, for he has been touring solo with great success for the better part of the last ten years. He just wanted to honor the many requests fans have asked, please play with Supertramp again. How would this not benefit Supertramp....sadly, Rick does not think it would.....
What possible harm could have come from Roger doing a show or two with Supertramp during this tour. Roger has not indicated he is interested in joining the group again, for he has been touring solo with great success for the better part of the the last ten years. He just wanted to honor the many requests fans have asked, please play with Supertramp again. How would this not benefit Supertramp....sadly, Rick does not think it would.....
It’s not correct that ST use Roger’s songs to announce his Tour, and it seems to me worse to be sung by other people. Roger’s voice can’t be replaced.He put his soul in each song. When another singer performance that songs, they sound as tucky covers. ST should play his own music. Rick has great songs, if he doesn’t want Roger with him in his Tour, why he does want his songs, maybe, because that songs are the trademark of Supertramp and are what the audience wants to hear.
If Roger signed onto the tour I'd buy tickets and all the replacements that try to sing Roger's songs have been horrible. Roger cares about his fans and has been touring for years now and his latest 2010 World Tour is awesome. Rick hasn't been on tour since 2002 so to be honest I lost interest in his music over the years.
It's about the music and fan base. From information presented in interviews, he really does not have a desire to "Tour " with Supertramp, he is happy with his solo work. However, he know the fans really want to see this, even if for a show or two..... What is the result of this, the fan base is tore between two points of view......who suffers..............the fan.
As I read through these comments, it saddens me. There has been literally no word from Rick other than it would not benefit Supertramp to have Roger do one or two shows with the group while Roger continues his very successful solo tour. The information I have read states, Roger does not want back into the band, he just wants fans to understand he is not touring with Supertramp, but the tour is being promoted as if he was, by using his images and voice. There are many examples of this...
Rick Davies not just does wrong using Roger's songs for advertising, he probably does himself and the group no favor when they are going to play Roger's songs on the tour.... it just sounds desastrous when any other singer tries to 'cover' Roger's unique voice ... I go on seeing the Original !!
I saw this quote on Facebook -- Going to see Supertramp without Roger Hodgson is like going to see the Stones without Mick Jagger or U2 without Bono. Why bother? Roger solely wrote and composed 9 out of 12 of Supertramp's Greatest Hits. Apparently Roger's songs are so very important to Rick that not only are Roger's songs being used to promote the Supertramp tour, but so is Roger's voice and his images. It is pathetic that fans are being misled. Roger is on tour now. See the original.
For me there are 2 Supertramps the original band with Rick and Roger and then Rick's version of Supertramp. I don't care for all the slamming on the internet and I just wish the promoters would just be honest to us fans so we know what we are getting. I haven't seen Rick for many years, I lost count. His fans will want to see him. I'm lucky Roger has kept touring and I love his music and he is touring so I get to see him. I will still hold on for a true reunion and that would be my dream.
Seen Supertramp without Hodgson,and him solo.No complaints,you get a two hour slick show.Best to think of the O2 show as Rick and friends,when they perform without each other a piece of the jigsaw is missing.Especially on their vocal exchanges,usually expressing frustration,anger dismay about the world or the plight of some anguished individual-would be great to seen them together again.
I'm seriously sick of all the Rick Davies hate I see on youtube. Roger's ego is astounding and one of the reason's I don't like him as a person. Rick broke the deal and played the songs, sure, but for Roger to promote himself as the "heart and soul" of Supertramp is just selfish. Also for Roger to just assume he'd be let back into the band on this tour is sad. He has screwed up reunions several times over the past couple decades and Rick never went out and condemned anyone.
@nattiep Your are absolutely quite right ! Roger himself promotes as "The heart of Supertramp; "The voice of Supertramp" etc. So he himself breaks the deal, not to use the band-name.
@nattiep Finally. This has been my point all along. Roger himself does not appear to have kept his side of the agreement. But what is worse is that he claims he does.
Rick Davies is an excellent composer and musician but I hope that "Better Days" come, when he realizes it’s not fair (neither beautiful) that his band performs Roger’s songs. Rick’s songs are good enough.There’s no need for Mr. Davies to “rape this universe” (= Roger’s songs, rights and fans). Roger Hodgson cannot be replaced. All his songs performed by other people are only gray cover souvenirs of the original ones.
Because Rick Davies had the money to found the band, it doesn’t mean he has the right to buy something that is not on sale (Roger’s songs). For me, that is stealing.
I used to think that the Supertramp affair (Rick Davies playing Roger’s songs) was not of my concern. But now, after attending to 3 Roger Hodgson’s concerts and realizing he is still my favorite artist, after receiving so much from him, I started wondering if I could be of any help. Any ideas?
Roger has offered to do a few special concerts for the fans. Check out his website and you’ll see it in an article and also a letter to his fans. So it’s not Roger, its Rick who is keeping the reunion from happening. He won’t even publicly acknowledge that Roger has offered to do a few special reunion shows. I think that is an important thing for Supertramp fans to know.
Roger's has been touring solo.You can have this great experience of listening his classic Supertramp songs, and beautiful solo ones. Not only because Roger is the composer/writer of those songs. But because they are part of him, during the show he gives life to the songs. The songs then dance around the audience, get into our hearts, and we are able to go everywhere. Not only the old guys, my son too(16) experienced it twice.Check Roger's tour page.
I'm blessed to have attended to 3 Roger Hodgson's concerts (1998, 2008, 2010 - Brazil). They were all awsome! Roger perform all his songs with energy, love, everything!
I had attended to a Supertramp concert before (1988 - Brazil). Roger Hodgson wasn't there and his songs performed by somebody else were a disaster. I cried with sadness the whole concert.
Because I know how it feels, Rick Davies should not advertise his tours with Roger's songs like: Breakfast in America, Logical Song, etc.
I saw Supertramp in 2002 doing covers of Roger's songs and I was so disappointed after that concert because they sounded so flat and uninspired. I saw Roger perform solo recently and it was so amazing. People in the audience were hugging and crying and cheering and singing along with every song. Roger is such a presence on stage. Supertramp with all the bells and whistles can never compare to the personal and intimate feeling of the writer and composer performing his great works.
Have you ever heard the song “Under Pressure” performed by Freddie Mercury and David Bowie? It’s a beautiful song. Although there was a noble intention, and Bowie’s voice is beautiful, the same song performed by him and A. Lennox (F. Mercury Tribute) is rather poor. The same goes a million fold for Roger’s songs performed without him.
do not “rape this universe, don’t go from bad to worse”. I’m not a fan of yours but there are many who are. You’re a great musician and composer. Give your fans what’s best in you, and not these cover songs. Roger’s songs are wonderful, but when performed by another singer they have no magic. I’m sure you can give them much more than this. Your conscience will be in peace, your heart will be free to compose many beautiful songs.
I'm so glad I was lucky enough to see Roger Hodgson live once in my life. It's an experience words cannot describe. It feels like you're an invited guest as he plays songs with passion rarely seen and gives you an intimate tour into his psyche when he wrote the great songs. A Roger-less Supertramp is not worth hearing or seeing. Rick lacks Roger's talent and soul, especially now. If only Rick was man enough to acknowledge his error; it'd be great to hear the real Supertramp even just once more.
I've heard that Roger's show in South America was a smash! Let the music speak for itself and let the fans bask in the beauty and excitement of the shows that Roger is doing all over the world and stop making this into some kind of petty feud. Roger is a fabulous artist with integrity and honesty and he just wants to keep the fans and the public from getting misled.
Also forgot to mention that I saw Roger in concert two times last year in Paris. Oh, what magnificent shows. We could have listened to him for hours more. He performed every song flawlessly and with the most remarkable voice. Sounded even better than on my old vinyls. I loved hearing all of his classics again such as Dreamer, Breakfast in America, The Logical Song, Give a Little Bit, and so very many more. I also thoroughly enjoyed hearing songs from his solo albums. All amazing.
It's offensive that Rick and Co. would have the audacity to use Roger Hodgson's song, Breakfast in America, as the intro for their promo vid. Considering that long ago Rick made an agreement with Roger that he would not perform his songs in concert. Roger solely owns the copyrights to all the songs. Rick has enough songs of his own. Why would he need to promote his tour with audio of Roger's songs and for that matter, with photos of Roger? Is it because it is Roger who fans want to see?
Turbotalk, this is defamatory and pure gossip that you are putting out. Obviously you are not his bookkeeper or close personal friend, you have no way of knowing that. I am reporting you to Roger's managers. It's one thing to express criticism of his song writing or art, but it's another thing to spread gossip. You've crossed the line.
Turbotalk, this is defamatory and pure gossip that you are putting out. Obviously you are not his bookkeeper or close personal friend, you have no way of knowing that. I am reporting you to Roger's managers. It's one thing to express criticism of his song writing or art, but it's another thing to spread gossip. You've crossed the line.
it's worth mentioning again - everyone vote this fool down!
Turbotalk, this is defamatory and pure gossip that you are putting out. Obviously you are not his bookkeeper or close personal friend, you have no way of knowing that. I am reporting you to Roger's managers. It's one thing to express criticism of his song writing or art, but it's another thing to spread gossip. You've crossed the line.
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Turbotalk, this is defamatory and pure gossip that you are putting out. Obviously you are not his bookkeeper or close personal friend, you have no way of knowing that. I am reporting you to Roger's managers. It's one thing to express criticism of his song writing or art, but it's another thing to spread gossip. You've crossed the line.
Turbotalk, this is defamatory and pure gossip that you are putting out. Obviously you are not his bookkeeper or close personal friend, you have no way of knowing that. I am reporting you to Roger's managers. It's one thing to express criticism of his song writing or art, but it's another thing to spread gossip. You've crossed the line.
there was also this great article that listed all Rick's songs and Roger's songs, apparently they wrote separately, and i got wow, Rogers songs were the hits, no wonder why he wanted them when he left the band. to me they were worth more then the name. it's kind of shocking that after all those years together Rick would do that to Roger. i guess Rick hasn't listened to any of the words he sings from Roger's songs :)
A friend of mine went to see Supertramp in 2002 and was kind of disappointed. it just didn't feel like it was worth the price of the ticket is what he told me. kind of a bummer.
I have been a Supertramp fan for over 30 years, since 1977. I loved them, but alas they are not the band they were when i was 15. I prefer Roger's Supertramp, and i am so glad Roger started touring again eight years ago. no reason to argue, ST fans can go see Rick, and Roger Hodgson fans can hear Roger sing the classics and transport us back in time. lol.
I too hope Rick will play his own songs at the ST concert, i like the style they went after Roger left, it was blues and jazz, and it became Rick's band. I don't understand why Rick wouldn't want to do his own original stuff. why would you be a cover band if you don't need to be.
@Diet4smplanet me too, i love Brother, and Slow Motion. There are times i want to hear Roger's songs and days i listen to Rick's. Roger's Open the Door is a precious gem, one of his later CD's. i just don't understand why they don't each do their own thing. they are definitely two different people, and that's okay.
wow, Turbotalk You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. i hope you are not representative of the caliber of the rest of Supertramp's fans. With fans like you, who needs enemies?
Turbotalk, this is defamatory and pure gossip that you are putting out. Obviously you are not his bookkeeper or close personal friend, you have no way of knowing that. I am reporting you to Roger's managers. It's one thing to express criticism of his song writing or art, but it's another thing to spread gossip. You've crossed the line.
Makes my skin crawl to think that Supertramp is touring without Roger even after he proposed doing a few shows with them and their management said it would never happen. Doesn't make sense. Don't you want to make the fans who have supported you all these years happy.
@42csmith For me it is the same. I cannot understand why they both could not do it for the fans. Because of their age that might be the last chance to collaborate leastwise for a few shows. But we never will know the real reasons why it failed.
@MrSupertramp1970 Hi, I totally agree with you. It saddens me aswell that they couldn't get together, if only for one concert. The world sure could do with a band like Superttramp reuniting. (In my opinion), the magic came when they were all making the music together. XX
it seems the point is Roger and Rick had an agreement and Rick isn't holding up his end of the bargain. it's just not right for Supertramp to tour with Roger's songs. to me that is what it boils down to, they each have songs and Roger's were the ones people loved and bought the albums for and that is what Rick is trying to cash in on - and it's wrong.
I like Rick's music. But it's not the music that the band was about when Roger was with them. Supertramp is a different band now, they should play their own music.
It seems only fair that Rick and Roger each be true to their own songs and creations, the pieces they each wrote separately. Supertramp was a vehicle for both of them at one time for their music to be heard and they are each entitled to get credit for what they created. The question is why does Rick need to do Roger's songs and call it a greatest hits tour if he has his own material that Supertramp is now a vehicle for and Roger is the vehicle for his songs. That would be the right thing to do.
Why doesn't Rick's Supertramp advertise with his songs? Why does ST uses Roger's hits, image and voice to sell hits? It would just be good if the guy had enough integrity to play his own songs. It's just right, bloody well righ to let the fans hear his songs and not draw people expecting the hits they love from Roger.
@markruku But it is ! You listen to The Logical Song; Breakfast as well as Goodbye Stranger, Bloody Well Right and Crime. That´s the Supertramp-history.
Roger's shows are awesome. His clear, soaring voice was one of the defining features of Supertramp. Many remember Supertramp as a chart-topping stadium band, but that's not why thefans go to see Roger. My guess is they are there to hear songs like Take The Long Way Home, Give a Little Bit and The Logical Song, soulful numbers written by Roger that made an indelible impression on a lot of people. When I saw him the audience was very generous with its standing ovations for nearly every song.
@killerwhaletotem Sure. Many want to hear the good old chart-topping classics. But Supertramp always was an album-band with sophisticated music. "Rudy", "Crime Of The Century", "From Now On", "Another Man´s Woman" , all written and sung by the other head of the Band Rick Davies, are classics on concert that cast a spell over you. I´m also looking forward impatiently for "Goodbye Stranger", "Bloody Well Right" and "Cannonball", which all became single-hits...
I have always been a Supertramp fan,not particular a Rick Davies or Roger Hodgson fan. I think both their music is good in its own way. People have been clamoring for years for a reunion tour with Roger, so I think its pointless .h to have a tour without Him.
Supertramp is advertising using Roger's songs and voice. Whether you like Roger songs better or Rick's songs better, doesn't matter, the point is that Supertramp is misleading fans with their advertising to send the message that Roger is going to be part of the tour and he won't be there. that's sad. I'm a fan of Supertramp but i don't like their dishonesty. i still like their music, but it's unethical what they are doing.
I was too young to have experienced Supertramp first hand back in the day. But in 1984 i was old enough to buy my first album and it was "In the Eye of the Storm". At the time i didn't even know Supertramp, i just loved Roger's music. So i kind of went backwards to discover Give a LIttle Bit, Two of Us, Logical Song. I can't relate much to current day Supertramp, the sound was definitely different without Roger, you just can't replace his voice.
I think it's awesome that roger is just staying true to his own heart and soul by playing the music that comes from deep inside of him as a writer and composer. I think any artist needs to be true to their own self, their own music and true to their fans. That's what makes it authentic and real. It's refreshing to me that Roger wants to keep his art pure and untainted by people who are promoting ST with Roger's voice, songs & image and that just want to take the money and run.
I know there are fans that prefer Ricks song writing and style of music more than Roger's but bottom line Roger doesn't perform Rick's songs just so the Rick fans will come to his shows. He stays true to the integrity of his own artistry. What would be more honest would be for Rick to simply go out as a ST tour and not try to call it a 40th anniversary or a greatest hits tour and just be honest and call it a ST tour. Then each of their individual concerts would be more honest and more true.
Rick hasn't toured since 2002 so I'm wondering is he touring because he needs money. Roger has been promoting and keeping all the hits songs and the name Supertramp alive all these years and Rick has been living off of Sugar Daddy Hodgson so I'm glad he's going to finally tour again. He may have the band name Supertramp but he also has to put a new band together again so that's pretty meaningless. 40th anniversary would be the original band to me but Rick's management doesn't care about fans.
@teton2401 Have you been to Roger's concerts? Pretty bad and expensive, he was to pull a one man show and preted to be Supertramp. At least at a Supertramp concert I get my money's worth. Roger is no finacial guru or sugar daddy, in fact he declared bankrupty post Supertramp.
Rick dear be a gentleman and keep your agreements sweetheart. I like your music, I love jazz. I also like Roger's music but I go to his concerts when I want to hear his hits. Please play your songs and prove that you have enough of your own material you don't need Roger's songs to fill out a show. Of course you can give us fans a real treat and ask Roger to play some shows and make everyone happy.
@florasummers I have been to Roger's solo concerts. He plays with a great deal of emotion and the audience relates to him, but by himself the music sounds bad and he sounds bad. I think people like him because they are nostalgic about the past instead of filtering the quality of the music which is being offered them. Why don't you ask Roger to keep his side of the agreement: not to use the Supertramp name?
Mark Hart won't be on this tour either, he's touring with Crowded House. I know he got criticized for trying to replace Roger Hodgson but I'm glad Mark is back touring doing his own music again. It would be great if Rick just did his own songs but he hasn't toured in so long he probably can't sing a full concert so that's probably why he has to do Rogers songs with someone else singing. Hey I thought the other band members had songs he should give them a chance to sing their material too.
I don´t know why Roger Hodgson has a problem that Supertramp sings "his" songs. "Dreamer" and "The Logical Song" are SUPERTRAMP-SONGs written by Roger, arranged and performed by Supertramp. So it is respectful to say: "These are my songs. Supertramp has not to play them !". People expect that some of them are played on concerts. I saw Pink Floyd and they also played songs by Roger Waters. So for me it is quite normal.
On another hypocritical note regarding the shared writing credits: one Roger and Rick did co-write. Rick wrote the piano solo on School and other songs in Crime of the Century, two, Roger benefits financially from Rick Daviess music.
Even more hypocritical is that Rogers omits to say he has had financial troubles post-Supertramp but has without shame used the Supertramp brand halo to promote himself and tours to make his living
It is hypocritical for Roger to say he made poor business arrangements with Rick Davies in his early years. Rick Davies created Supertramp and later offered a job to Roger. By the time Roger joined Supertramp he had already done a lot of the legwork and monetary investment to create and record the Crime of The Century album.
@Turbotalk I don't know what hat you're pulling your facts from but that is not historically true - Crime of the Century was Supertramp's third album and Roger co-founded Supertramp with Rick years before that. Roger had his own recording deal and had just made his first tracks with Elton John on the piano under the name Argosy when he met Rick. they co-founded Supertramp together so was part of it from the beginning, before it was even called Supertramp. Just to be historically accurate.
@vivalaevolution It is very interesting reading the comments here. There obviously is a Rick-gang and a Roger-gang :-). I thing it is true that the initiative came form Rick and Roger contributed and bulit up Supertramp together with Rick. I think we all can agree that both - Rick and Roger - were very important for the glory of Supertramp and that it would be wrong if we say "Roger is the ral heart of Supertramp" or "Rick is the guiding light of Supertramp".
@Turbotalk you obviously don't know what you're talking about - Crime of the Century was their third album, you're just talking out of your hat! And thier break through hit from that album was Dreamer - a song that Roger wrote by himself in his mother's house shortly after he left school. That was the album where they started writing songs separately and that was when the hits started coming - mostly from Roger!
@vivalaevolution Crime of course was the third album. Problem is Roger thinks can pull it by himself. but have you been to his concerts? Quite pathetic without a band. In the meantime Supertramp has surrounded itself Cliff Hugo, Carl Verheyen, and Lee Thornburg in addition to John and Bob, and they just rock. I think this is what upsets Roger; they can pull it off without having to call on nostalgia.
uh, pootie, i think you meant to say "60 million albums" that Roger has sold. anyway, the story is Roger and Rick had an agreement Roger would take his songs with him when he left in 1983, but it didn't take much booing for ST, once on tour sans-Roger, to realize who their sugardaddy was, and they've been breaking their agreement with Roger ever since. I heard Rick is even posting pictures of roger on promo sites to sell tickets. a tricky-dick move rick, for sure.
I read this review of Roger's Auckland show last week - "It was the old ST songs the crowds were there to hear - there were plenty of them. Don't forget, this is a guy respnonsible for selling more than 60 albums. Sister Moonshine, The Logical Song and Breakfast in America were all belted out with such precision that if you closed your eyes you'd swear you were back in the 70's with the turntable in full swing. By the time Roger got to Dreamer he had fans up off their feet."
Don't be fooled, listen to what ST really sounds like singing Roger's songs, and what Roger sounds like singing his songs - key in the following headlines to bring up the videos:
"if you've got teh voice, who needs the band? Roger's got most of ST's extensive playlist up his sleeve - it's a winning formula that has survived the test of time"
"CALL it the Roger Syndrome. In British rock mythology, Roger is the shy geezer who leads his band to staggering heights then makes a graceful exit at a timely peak only to hear his own songs echoing around stadiums without him for the next 20 years."
I haven't seen Supertramp tour since 2002 and it was pretty disappointing without Roger. Rick needs to make it up to us fans and have Roger play some concerts. Rick play your own songs and stop living off of all the touring Roger has done these past years. He can call it the greatest 2 hits tour.
I've been to Supertramp concerts without Roger: they still sound incredible. They have evolved the band and artistry and don't have to call on nostalgia to make their concert's successful.
Great to have them back on tour. Too bad that three Hodgson songs are used in this promotion clip. I hope the concert will be filled with Rick songs. That would be just great. I just don't like to see and hear the band covering Rogers songs. Only a true reunion with Hodgson will do justice to these songs.
@NUNOCALHEIROSPONCES Yes, of course, this is Supertramp. I agree with you, Nuno. I would like Mark Hart could be on board again but he is touring with Crowded House, now. I love Mark Hart.
@NUNOCALHEIROSPONCES mas é que é mesmo:) o roger armado em campeao a pensar que se orientava sozinho numa carreira a solo. fodeu-se bem tanto sofreu ele como supertramp... por causa de lhe ter subido a fama a cabeça.
Tanto que eu acho que o Rick Davies nunca mais conseguir perdoar o Roger.
Foi uma traição muito grande da parte do roger hodgson.
@ferlvs Ja muitos os fizeram, mas a razao do roger não é sufeciente. aquilo foi parvoeira, tanto que sofreram os dois periodos de poucas vendas (em comparação com albuns anteriores) e deixaram de aparecer nos tops.
Outra coisa importante era a diferença nos estilos e grande variadade deles que preenchia a verdadeira alma de supertramp:)
where can i find video of the original lineup?
peacemusicjam 5 months ago
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MusicbyBenjamin 9 months ago
Roger was better
rickc747 11 months ago
Shit on a stick. Roger made this band.
heanex 1 year ago
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pimpinhector 1 year ago
Rick - You should be ashamed of yourself. Yes, you were a major part of Supertramp but Roger's vocals are what MADE Supertramp one of the greatest bands in the world. Hopefully you'll swollow your pride and extend an olive branch to Roger one of these days!! Like the song says, Just "Give a Little Bit"
bk71259 1 year ago
Saw Supertramp yesterday @ Antwerpen. It was great! The two guys who did Rogers voice were good but Roger has this thing in his voice wich makes it so special. I missed that. I'm in love with his voice!
RnR1989 1 year ago
Saw Supertramp in Dublin last night, and they were FANTASTIC! I thought Jessee was brilliant - so talented. There was another young guy singing also, not sure of his name - Gabe, maybe?? but he was excellent too. I didn't miss Roger from the line up at all.... Great job Supertramp! Long may you continue!
beemerbabe08 1 year ago 6
@kingofallwhites I think you are giving more areguments why Roger Hogdson is not part of the reunion: he probably just demands and demands but he is not even a band member. I think Jessee and rest of band are doing just fine.
Turbotalk 1 year ago 3
@Turbotalk I like Rick. I think his wife is so beautiful it's ridiculous. And I have nothing against the kid (Jesse). But this band doesn't feel like Supertamp. It's half-assed. And I am not saying that Rick, Bob or John are half-assed or that the other guys aren't good musicians. I am saying that paying all that money for a ticket to see some kid singing Roger's songs is pointless- and they play a lot of them.
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Man, I really love ST. I also like Hodgson solo and Supertramp after-Hodgson. They're all great. In my opinion, they should play only Davies' song. Not because the legal agreement, but because Hodgson songs without him are awful. Hart did a nice effort (and Jesse is doing ever better), but it isn't the same. I'd prefer to hear Davie singing something from Brother Where You Bound or even Free as a Bird than someone else singing Breakfast in America. Anyway, I'm looking forward for ST on Brazil!
KingArthur13 1 year ago
Just saw on Roger's website that he has a new CD called "Classics Live". I am soooo excited about this. I think I have waited for something new from Roger for a long long time. Should be available soon for download. Has Roger solo, with a band and with an orchestra. I have seen him live and it is fantastic and I can't wait to be able to hear him live in my own living room. There's a free download of "Dreamer" from the CD if you go to his website. It's totally awesome!
JDBrewco 1 year ago
Magico nella mia città in Arena.
Solo al pensiero mi vengono i brividi su tutta la schiena.
La loro musica, un epoca da non dimenticare!
lele71vr 1 year ago 2
A true Supertramp reunion tour would be something to behold. Unfortunately, that is not the case. Rick's songs are great. He should stick to his own music, instead of trying to insert pathetic imitations of the original brilliance of Roger's songs. Using Roger's face, voice, and music to promote this tour is a disservice to Supertramp fans. If you want to see & hear the real thing, check out Roger's current tour schedule on his website.. His voice is better than ever!
RosieDish 1 year ago
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What possible harm could have come from Roger doing a show or two with Supertramp during this tour? Roger has not indicated he is interested in joining the group again, for he has been touring solo with great success for the better part of the last ten years. He just wanted to honor the many requests fans have asked, please play with Supertramp again. How would this not benefit Supertramp....sadly, Rick does not think it would.....
Heartsong62 1 year ago
What possible harm could have come from Roger doing a show or two with Supertramp during this tour. Roger has not indicated he is interested in joining the group again, for he has been touring solo with great success for the better part of the the last ten years. He just wanted to honor the many requests fans have asked, please play with Supertramp again. How would this not benefit Supertramp....sadly, Rick does not think it would.....
Heartsong62 1 year ago
It’s not correct that ST use Roger’s songs to announce his Tour, and it seems to me worse to be sung by other people. Roger’s voice can’t be replaced.He put his soul in each song. When another singer performance that songs, they sound as tucky covers. ST should play his own music. Rick has great songs, if he doesn’t want Roger with him in his Tour, why he does want his songs, maybe, because that songs are the trademark of Supertramp and are what the audience wants to hear.
nuskysa 1 year ago
If Roger signed onto the tour I'd buy tickets and all the replacements that try to sing Roger's songs have been horrible. Roger cares about his fans and has been touring for years now and his latest 2010 World Tour is awesome. Rick hasn't been on tour since 2002 so to be honest I lost interest in his music over the years.
bradrndavis 1 year ago
It's about the music and fan base. From information presented in interviews, he really does not have a desire to "Tour " with Supertramp, he is happy with his solo work. However, he know the fans really want to see this, even if for a show or two..... What is the result of this, the fan base is tore between two points of view......who suffers..............the fan.
guitar62player 1 year ago
As I read through these comments, it saddens me. There has been literally no word from Rick other than it would not benefit Supertramp to have Roger do one or two shows with the group while Roger continues his very successful solo tour. The information I have read states, Roger does not want back into the band, he just wants fans to understand he is not touring with Supertramp, but the tour is being promoted as if he was, by using his images and voice. There are many examples of this...
guitar62player 1 year ago
Rick Davies not just does wrong using Roger's songs for advertising, he probably does himself and the group no favor when they are going to play Roger's songs on the tour.... it just sounds desastrous when any other singer tries to 'cover' Roger's unique voice ... I go on seeing the Original !!
kunstspione 1 year ago
I saw this quote on Facebook -- Going to see Supertramp without Roger Hodgson is like going to see the Stones without Mick Jagger or U2 without Bono. Why bother? Roger solely wrote and composed 9 out of 12 of Supertramp's Greatest Hits. Apparently Roger's songs are so very important to Rick that not only are Roger's songs being used to promote the Supertramp tour, but so is Roger's voice and his images. It is pathetic that fans are being misled. Roger is on tour now. See the original.
pariscafe1 1 year ago
where can i see Roger? does anyone have tour dates for him?
Bjovolfis12yearsold 1 year ago
@Bjovolfis12yearsold - Visit Roger's website for all of his tour information.
pariscafe1 1 year ago
For me there are 2 Supertramps the original band with Rick and Roger and then Rick's version of Supertramp. I don't care for all the slamming on the internet and I just wish the promoters would just be honest to us fans so we know what we are getting. I haven't seen Rick for many years, I lost count. His fans will want to see him. I'm lucky Roger has kept touring and I love his music and he is touring so I get to see him. I will still hold on for a true reunion and that would be my dream.
goer4ever 1 year ago
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TAFKAS71 1 year ago
Seen Supertramp without Hodgson,and him solo.No complaints,you get a two hour slick show.Best to think of the O2 show as Rick and friends,when they perform without each other a piece of the jigsaw is missing.Especially on their vocal exchanges,usually expressing frustration,anger dismay about the world or the plight of some anguished individual-would be great to seen them together again.
ttneiltt 1 year ago
I'm seriously sick of all the Rick Davies hate I see on youtube. Roger's ego is astounding and one of the reason's I don't like him as a person. Rick broke the deal and played the songs, sure, but for Roger to promote himself as the "heart and soul" of Supertramp is just selfish. Also for Roger to just assume he'd be let back into the band on this tour is sad. He has screwed up reunions several times over the past couple decades and Rick never went out and condemned anyone.
nattiep 1 year ago
@nattiep Your are absolutely quite right ! Roger himself promotes as "The heart of Supertramp; "The voice of Supertramp" etc. So he himself breaks the deal, not to use the band-name.
MrSupertramp1970 1 year ago
@nattiep Finally. This has been my point all along. Roger himself does not appear to have kept his side of the agreement. But what is worse is that he claims he does.
Turbotalk 1 year ago
why are they going with out Hodgson?
BNSF9250 1 year ago
sem duvida!
NUNOCALHEIROSPONCES 1 year ago
What a shit promo.
CrocodileRocker 1 year ago
Rick Davies is an excellent composer and musician but I hope that "Better Days" come, when he realizes it’s not fair (neither beautiful) that his band performs Roger’s songs. Rick’s songs are good enough.There’s no need for Mr. Davies to “rape this universe” (= Roger’s songs, rights and fans). Roger Hodgson cannot be replaced. All his songs performed by other people are only gray cover souvenirs of the original ones.
ferlvs 1 year ago 2
Because Rick Davies had the money to found the band, it doesn’t mean he has the right to buy something that is not on sale (Roger’s songs). For me, that is stealing.
ferlvs 1 year ago
I used to think that the Supertramp affair (Rick Davies playing Roger’s songs) was not of my concern. But now, after attending to 3 Roger Hodgson’s concerts and realizing he is still my favorite artist, after receiving so much from him, I started wondering if I could be of any help. Any ideas?
Fernanda
ferlvs 1 year ago 5
Roger has offered to do a few special concerts for the fans. Check out his website and you’ll see it in an article and also a letter to his fans. So it’s not Roger, its Rick who is keeping the reunion from happening. He won’t even publicly acknowledge that Roger has offered to do a few special reunion shows. I think that is an important thing for Supertramp fans to know.
JDBrewco 1 year ago 2
Roger's has been touring solo.You can have this great experience of listening his classic Supertramp songs, and beautiful solo ones. Not only because Roger is the composer/writer of those songs. But because they are part of him, during the show he gives life to the songs. The songs then dance around the audience, get into our hearts, and we are able to go everywhere. Not only the old guys, my son too(16) experienced it twice.Check Roger's tour page.
ferlvs 1 year ago
I'm blessed to have attended to 3 Roger Hodgson's concerts (1998, 2008, 2010 - Brazil). They were all awsome! Roger perform all his songs with energy, love, everything!
I had attended to a Supertramp concert before (1988 - Brazil). Roger Hodgson wasn't there and his songs performed by somebody else were a disaster. I cried with sadness the whole concert.
Because I know how it feels, Rick Davies should not advertise his tours with Roger's songs like: Breakfast in America, Logical Song, etc.
ferlvs 1 year ago
I saw Supertramp in 2002 doing covers of Roger's songs and I was so disappointed after that concert because they sounded so flat and uninspired. I saw Roger perform solo recently and it was so amazing. People in the audience were hugging and crying and cheering and singing along with every song. Roger is such a presence on stage. Supertramp with all the bells and whistles can never compare to the personal and intimate feeling of the writer and composer performing his great works.
lizardcanyon 1 year ago 4
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Dear Mr. Davies,
Have you ever heard the song “Under Pressure” performed by Freddie Mercury and David Bowie? It’s a beautiful song. Although there was a noble intention, and Bowie’s voice is beautiful, the same song performed by him and A. Lennox (F. Mercury Tribute) is rather poor. The same goes a million fold for Roger’s songs performed without him.
... to be continued
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ferlvs 1 year ago
So please Mr. Davies,
do not “rape this universe, don’t go from bad to worse”. I’m not a fan of yours but there are many who are. You’re a great musician and composer. Give your fans what’s best in you, and not these cover songs. Roger’s songs are wonderful, but when performed by another singer they have no magic. I’m sure you can give them much more than this. Your conscience will be in peace, your heart will be free to compose many beautiful songs.
God bless you,
Fernanda
ferlvs 1 year ago
What happend to the supertramp videos live in munich... etc??? I can't find them any more!
Tom3PT 1 year ago
I'm so glad I was lucky enough to see Roger Hodgson live once in my life. It's an experience words cannot describe. It feels like you're an invited guest as he plays songs with passion rarely seen and gives you an intimate tour into his psyche when he wrote the great songs. A Roger-less Supertramp is not worth hearing or seeing. Rick lacks Roger's talent and soul, especially now. If only Rick was man enough to acknowledge his error; it'd be great to hear the real Supertramp even just once more.
funkey72monkey 1 year ago
I've heard that Roger's show in South America was a smash! Let the music speak for itself and let the fans bask in the beauty and excitement of the shows that Roger is doing all over the world and stop making this into some kind of petty feud. Roger is a fabulous artist with integrity and honesty and he just wants to keep the fans and the public from getting misled.
42csmith 1 year ago 4
Also forgot to mention that I saw Roger in concert two times last year in Paris. Oh, what magnificent shows. We could have listened to him for hours more. He performed every song flawlessly and with the most remarkable voice. Sounded even better than on my old vinyls. I loved hearing all of his classics again such as Dreamer, Breakfast in America, The Logical Song, Give a Little Bit, and so very many more. I also thoroughly enjoyed hearing songs from his solo albums. All amazing.
pariscafe1 1 year ago 5
It's offensive that Rick and Co. would have the audacity to use Roger Hodgson's song, Breakfast in America, as the intro for their promo vid. Considering that long ago Rick made an agreement with Roger that he would not perform his songs in concert. Roger solely owns the copyrights to all the songs. Rick has enough songs of his own. Why would he need to promote his tour with audio of Roger's songs and for that matter, with photos of Roger? Is it because it is Roger who fans want to see?
pariscafe1 1 year ago 2
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Turbotalk, this is defamatory and pure gossip that you are putting out. Obviously you are not his bookkeeper or close personal friend, you have no way of knowing that. I am reporting you to Roger's managers. It's one thing to express criticism of his song writing or art, but it's another thing to spread gossip. You've crossed the line.
worth mentioning again...
pootietangh 1 year ago 5
everyone - vote turbotalk down - yeah.
pootietangh 1 year ago 3
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Turbotalk, this is defamatory and pure gossip that you are putting out. Obviously you are not his bookkeeper or close personal friend, you have no way of knowing that. I am reporting you to Roger's managers. It's one thing to express criticism of his song writing or art, but it's another thing to spread gossip. You've crossed the line.
it's worth mentioning again - everyone vote this fool down!
:)
pootietangh 1 year ago 4
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Turbotalk, this is defamatory and pure gossip that you are putting out. Obviously you are not his bookkeeper or close personal friend, you have no way of knowing that. I am reporting you to Roger's managers. It's one thing to express criticism of his song writing or art, but it's another thing to spread gossip. You've crossed the line.
it's worth mentioning again, everyone vote this fool down! :)
pootietangh 1 year ago 4
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Turbotalk, this is defamatory and pure gossip that you are putting out. Obviously you are not his bookkeeper or close personal friend, you have no way of knowing that. I am reporting you to Roger's managers. It's one thing to express criticism of his song writing or art, but it's another thing to spread gossip. You've crossed the line.
Yeah!!!!
TomPinzino 1 year ago 4
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Turbotalk, this is defamatory and pure gossip that you are putting out. Obviously you are not his bookkeeper or close personal friend, you have no way of knowing that. I am reporting you to Roger's managers. It's one thing to express criticism of his song writing or art, but it's another thing to spread gossip. You've crossed the line.
TomPinzino 1 year ago 5
there was also this great article that listed all Rick's songs and Roger's songs, apparently they wrote separately, and i got wow, Rogers songs were the hits, no wonder why he wanted them when he left the band. to me they were worth more then the name. it's kind of shocking that after all those years together Rick would do that to Roger. i guess Rick hasn't listened to any of the words he sings from Roger's songs :)
TomPinzino 1 year ago 9
A friend of mine went to see Supertramp in 2002 and was kind of disappointed. it just didn't feel like it was worth the price of the ticket is what he told me. kind of a bummer.
TomPinzino 1 year ago 10
I have been a Supertramp fan for over 30 years, since 1977. I loved them, but alas they are not the band they were when i was 15. I prefer Roger's Supertramp, and i am so glad Roger started touring again eight years ago. no reason to argue, ST fans can go see Rick, and Roger Hodgson fans can hear Roger sing the classics and transport us back in time. lol.
lavas47 1 year ago 15
@lavas47 since '73... its just not "SUPERTRAMP"...
wesmundil 1 year ago
I too hope Rick will play his own songs at the ST concert, i like the style they went after Roger left, it was blues and jazz, and it became Rick's band. I don't understand why Rick wouldn't want to do his own original stuff. why would you be a cover band if you don't need to be.
Diet4smplanet 1 year ago 12
@Diet4smplanet me too, i love Brother, and Slow Motion. There are times i want to hear Roger's songs and days i listen to Rick's. Roger's Open the Door is a precious gem, one of his later CD's. i just don't understand why they don't each do their own thing. they are definitely two different people, and that's okay.
DannyBDangerous 1 year ago 10
but if you want to see Roger, you'll have to go see his own world tour shows, go to rogerhodgson com for tour information.
bravenpoe 1 year ago 12
I love roger hodgson, heart of supertramp.
bravenpoe 1 year ago 12
I like Rick's songs, I hope he plays his own songs at the Supertramp concert. i don't want to see such talented guys do covers of Roger's songs.
teton2401 1 year ago 12
wow, Turbotalk You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. i hope you are not representative of the caliber of the rest of Supertramp's fans. With fans like you, who needs enemies?
teton2401 1 year ago 11
Turbotalk, this is defamatory and pure gossip that you are putting out. Obviously you are not his bookkeeper or close personal friend, you have no way of knowing that. I am reporting you to Roger's managers. It's one thing to express criticism of his song writing or art, but it's another thing to spread gossip. You've crossed the line.
pootietangh 1 year ago 10
@pootietangh I agree with you, everyone vote this idiot down, love you rog.
TomPinzino 1 year ago 3
Makes my skin crawl to think that Supertramp is touring without Roger even after he proposed doing a few shows with them and their management said it would never happen. Doesn't make sense. Don't you want to make the fans who have supported you all these years happy.
42csmith 1 year ago
@42csmith For me it is the same. I cannot understand why they both could not do it for the fans. Because of their age that might be the last chance to collaborate leastwise for a few shows. But we never will know the real reasons why it failed.
MrSupertramp1970 1 year ago
@MrSupertramp1970 Hi, I totally agree with you. It saddens me aswell that they couldn't get together, if only for one concert. The world sure could do with a band like Superttramp reuniting. (In my opinion), the magic came when they were all making the music together. XX
aussieangie 1 year ago
They should have Roger Hodgson on the tour!
JDBrewco 1 year ago
go to roger's website for his tour dates for the show of your life.
lavas47 1 year ago 4
it seems the point is Roger and Rick had an agreement and Rick isn't holding up his end of the bargain. it's just not right for Supertramp to tour with Roger's songs. to me that is what it boils down to, they each have songs and Roger's were the ones people loved and bought the albums for and that is what Rick is trying to cash in on - and it's wrong.
lavas47 1 year ago 5
I like Rick's music. But it's not the music that the band was about when Roger was with them. Supertramp is a different band now, they should play their own music.
pootietangh 1 year ago
Rick, bury the hatchet before one of you dies and it's too late.
kingofallwhites 1 year ago
It seems only fair that Rick and Roger each be true to their own songs and creations, the pieces they each wrote separately. Supertramp was a vehicle for both of them at one time for their music to be heard and they are each entitled to get credit for what they created. The question is why does Rick need to do Roger's songs and call it a greatest hits tour if he has his own material that Supertramp is now a vehicle for and Roger is the vehicle for his songs. That would be the right thing to do.
lizardcanyon 1 year ago
Why doesn't Rick's Supertramp advertise with his songs? Why does ST uses Roger's hits, image and voice to sell hits? It would just be good if the guy had enough integrity to play his own songs. It's just right, bloody well righ to let the fans hear his songs and not draw people expecting the hits they love from Roger.
markruku 1 year ago
@markruku But it is ! You listen to The Logical Song; Breakfast as well as Goodbye Stranger, Bloody Well Right and Crime. That´s the Supertramp-history.
MrSupertramp1970 1 year ago
Roger's shows are awesome. His clear, soaring voice was one of the defining features of Supertramp. Many remember Supertramp as a chart-topping stadium band, but that's not why thefans go to see Roger. My guess is they are there to hear songs like Take The Long Way Home, Give a Little Bit and The Logical Song, soulful numbers written by Roger that made an indelible impression on a lot of people. When I saw him the audience was very generous with its standing ovations for nearly every song.
killerwhaletotem 1 year ago
@killerwhaletotem Sure. Many want to hear the good old chart-topping classics. But Supertramp always was an album-band with sophisticated music. "Rudy", "Crime Of The Century", "From Now On", "Another Man´s Woman" , all written and sung by the other head of the Band Rick Davies, are classics on concert that cast a spell over you. I´m also looking forward impatiently for "Goodbye Stranger", "Bloody Well Right" and "Cannonball", which all became single-hits...
MrSupertramp1970 1 year ago 5
I have always been a Supertramp fan,not particular a Rick Davies or Roger Hodgson fan. I think both their music is good in its own way. People have been clamoring for years for a reunion tour with Roger, so I think its pointless .h to have a tour without Him.
dschwartz0 1 year ago
12/9 In Lisbon! I'm there
13JNT 1 year ago 2
Deceptive and False advertising bites the hand that has been feeding Supertramp for 40 years, loyal and trusting fans.
Diet4smplanet 1 year ago
Supertramp is advertising using Roger's songs and voice. Whether you like Roger songs better or Rick's songs better, doesn't matter, the point is that Supertramp is misleading fans with their advertising to send the message that Roger is going to be part of the tour and he won't be there. that's sad. I'm a fan of Supertramp but i don't like their dishonesty. i still like their music, but it's unethical what they are doing.
Diet4smplanet 1 year ago
I was too young to have experienced Supertramp first hand back in the day. But in 1984 i was old enough to buy my first album and it was "In the Eye of the Storm". At the time i didn't even know Supertramp, i just loved Roger's music. So i kind of went backwards to discover Give a LIttle Bit, Two of Us, Logical Song. I can't relate much to current day Supertramp, the sound was definitely different without Roger, you just can't replace his voice.
pootietangh 1 year ago
I think it's awesome that roger is just staying true to his own heart and soul by playing the music that comes from deep inside of him as a writer and composer. I think any artist needs to be true to their own self, their own music and true to their fans. That's what makes it authentic and real. It's refreshing to me that Roger wants to keep his art pure and untainted by people who are promoting ST with Roger's voice, songs & image and that just want to take the money and run.
MsEndersgame 1 year ago
I know there are fans that prefer Ricks song writing and style of music more than Roger's but bottom line Roger doesn't perform Rick's songs just so the Rick fans will come to his shows. He stays true to the integrity of his own artistry. What would be more honest would be for Rick to simply go out as a ST tour and not try to call it a 40th anniversary or a greatest hits tour and just be honest and call it a ST tour. Then each of their individual concerts would be more honest and more true.
lizardcanyon 1 year ago
Rick hasn't toured since 2002 so I'm wondering is he touring because he needs money. Roger has been promoting and keeping all the hits songs and the name Supertramp alive all these years and Rick has been living off of Sugar Daddy Hodgson so I'm glad he's going to finally tour again. He may have the band name Supertramp but he also has to put a new band together again so that's pretty meaningless. 40th anniversary would be the original band to me but Rick's management doesn't care about fans.
teton2401 1 year ago
@teton2401 Have you been to Roger's concerts? Pretty bad and expensive, he was to pull a one man show and preted to be Supertramp. At least at a Supertramp concert I get my money's worth. Roger is no finacial guru or sugar daddy, in fact he declared bankrupty post Supertramp.
Turbotalk 1 year ago
Rick dear be a gentleman and keep your agreements sweetheart. I like your music, I love jazz. I also like Roger's music but I go to his concerts when I want to hear his hits. Please play your songs and prove that you have enough of your own material you don't need Roger's songs to fill out a show. Of course you can give us fans a real treat and ask Roger to play some shows and make everyone happy.
florasummers 1 year ago
@florasummers I have been to Roger's solo concerts. He plays with a great deal of emotion and the audience relates to him, but by himself the music sounds bad and he sounds bad. I think people like him because they are nostalgic about the past instead of filtering the quality of the music which is being offered them. Why don't you ask Roger to keep his side of the agreement: not to use the Supertramp name?
Turbotalk 1 year ago
Mark Hart won't be on this tour either, he's touring with Crowded House. I know he got criticized for trying to replace Roger Hodgson but I'm glad Mark is back touring doing his own music again. It would be great if Rick just did his own songs but he hasn't toured in so long he probably can't sing a full concert so that's probably why he has to do Rogers songs with someone else singing. Hey I thought the other band members had songs he should give them a chance to sing their material too.
goer4ever 1 year ago
There's a hilarious new video I recommend seeing and it has some good points.
BBC Radio on Supertramp without Roger Hodgson
This guy dubbin wants to talk about the 2 tours.
bradrndavis 1 year ago
I don´t know why Roger Hodgson has a problem that Supertramp sings "his" songs. "Dreamer" and "The Logical Song" are SUPERTRAMP-SONGs written by Roger, arranged and performed by Supertramp. So it is respectful to say: "These are my songs. Supertramp has not to play them !". People expect that some of them are played on concerts. I saw Pink Floyd and they also played songs by Roger Waters. So for me it is quite normal.
MrSupertramp1970 1 year ago 2
I hate people think that Roger Hodgson is the poor little victim.... he left cause he thought he could manage himself up alone:S
I am disappointed that he is out, but rick is the true heart of supertramp, never gave up, and his compositions are much better.
Tom3PT 1 year ago 3
On another hypocritical note regarding the shared writing credits: one Roger and Rick did co-write. Rick wrote the piano solo on School and other songs in Crime of the Century, two, Roger benefits financially from Rick Daviess music.
Turbotalk 1 year ago
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Even more hypocritical is that Rogers omits to say he has had financial troubles post-Supertramp but has without shame used the Supertramp brand halo to promote himself and tours to make his living
Turbotalk 1 year ago
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It is hypocritical for Roger to say he made poor business arrangements with Rick Davies in his early years. Rick Davies created Supertramp and later offered a job to Roger. By the time Roger joined Supertramp he had already done a lot of the legwork and monetary investment to create and record the Crime of The Century album.
Turbotalk 1 year ago
@Turbotalk I don't know what hat you're pulling your facts from but that is not historically true - Crime of the Century was Supertramp's third album and Roger co-founded Supertramp with Rick years before that. Roger had his own recording deal and had just made his first tracks with Elton John on the piano under the name Argosy when he met Rick. they co-founded Supertramp together so was part of it from the beginning, before it was even called Supertramp. Just to be historically accurate.
vivalaevolution 1 year ago
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Rick Davies placed an add on Melody Maker magazine offering a "genuine opportuniy". Roger applied for the job an got it: Rick offered Roger a Job.
Funding came from Stanley August Miesegaes (Sam) who entrusted Davis with creating a band: Rick had done the moneteary legwork.
Turbotalk 1 year ago
@vivalaevolution It is very interesting reading the comments here. There obviously is a Rick-gang and a Roger-gang :-). I thing it is true that the initiative came form Rick and Roger contributed and bulit up Supertramp together with Rick. I think we all can agree that both - Rick and Roger - were very important for the glory of Supertramp and that it would be wrong if we say "Roger is the ral heart of Supertramp" or "Rick is the guiding light of Supertramp".
MrSupertramp1970 1 year ago
@Turbotalk you obviously don't know what you're talking about - Crime of the Century was their third album, you're just talking out of your hat! And thier break through hit from that album was Dreamer - a song that Roger wrote by himself in his mother's house shortly after he left school. That was the album where they started writing songs separately and that was when the hits started coming - mostly from Roger!
vivalaevolution 1 year ago 7
@vivalaevolution Crime of course was the third album. Problem is Roger thinks can pull it by himself. but have you been to his concerts? Quite pathetic without a band. In the meantime Supertramp has surrounded itself Cliff Hugo, Carl Verheyen, and Lee Thornburg in addition to John and Bob, and they just rock. I think this is what upsets Roger; they can pull it off without having to call on nostalgia.
Turbotalk 1 year ago
uh, pootie, i think you meant to say "60 million albums" that Roger has sold. anyway, the story is Roger and Rick had an agreement Roger would take his songs with him when he left in 1983, but it didn't take much booing for ST, once on tour sans-Roger, to realize who their sugardaddy was, and they've been breaking their agreement with Roger ever since. I heard Rick is even posting pictures of roger on promo sites to sell tickets. a tricky-dick move rick, for sure.
krynmiller 1 year ago
I read this review of Roger's Auckland show last week - "It was the old ST songs the crowds were there to hear - there were plenty of them. Don't forget, this is a guy respnonsible for selling more than 60 albums. Sister Moonshine, The Logical Song and Breakfast in America were all belted out with such precision that if you closed your eyes you'd swear you were back in the 70's with the turntable in full swing. By the time Roger got to Dreamer he had fans up off their feet."
pootietangh 1 year ago
Don't be fooled, listen to what ST really sounds like singing Roger's songs, and what Roger sounds like singing his songs - key in the following headlines to bring up the videos:
Supertramp The Logical Song without Roger Hodgson
The Logical Song Roger Hodgson Montreal 2006
Roger Hodgson Breakfast in America
Supertramp Breakfast in America
Diet4smplanet 1 year ago
saw this on another blog - he he, lol
"if you've got teh voice, who needs the band? Roger's got most of ST's extensive playlist up his sleeve - it's a winning formula that has survived the test of time"
TomPinzino 1 year ago
"CALL it the Roger Syndrome. In British rock mythology, Roger is the shy geezer who leads his band to staggering heights then makes a graceful exit at a timely peak only to hear his own songs echoing around stadiums without him for the next 20 years."
TomPinzino 1 year ago
i would rather see Roger any day of the week. i wouldn't see the current day ST if they were playing for free in my driveway.
Bjovolfis12yearsold 1 year ago
I haven't seen Supertramp tour since 2002 and it was pretty disappointing without Roger. Rick needs to make it up to us fans and have Roger play some concerts. Rick play your own songs and stop living off of all the touring Roger has done these past years. He can call it the greatest 2 hits tour.
teton2401 1 year ago
Great news!!!
I've been to Supertramp concerts without Roger: they still sound incredible. They have evolved the band and artistry and don't have to call on nostalgia to make their concert's successful.
They don't need Roger
Turbotalk 1 year ago 13
Great to have them back on tour. Too bad that three Hodgson songs are used in this promotion clip. I hope the concert will be filled with Rick songs. That would be just great. I just don't like to see and hear the band covering Rogers songs. Only a true reunion with Hodgson will do justice to these songs.
paradiddel 1 year ago 3
This is Supertramp. Roger left the band in 1983. Supertramp has already tour in 1985, 1988, 1997, 2002 withou Roger with much sucess!
NUNOCALHEIROSPONCES 1 year ago 15
@NUNOCALHEIROSPONCES Yes, of course, this is Supertramp. I agree with you, Nuno. I would like Mark Hart could be on board again but he is touring with Crowded House, now. I love Mark Hart.
tiemposvenideros 1 year ago 3
@NUNOCALHEIROSPONCES mas é que é mesmo:) o roger armado em campeao a pensar que se orientava sozinho numa carreira a solo. fodeu-se bem tanto sofreu ele como supertramp... por causa de lhe ter subido a fama a cabeça.
Tanto que eu acho que o Rick Davies nunca mais conseguir perdoar o Roger.
Foi uma traição muito grande da parte do roger hodgson.
Tom3PT 1 year ago
@Tom3PT
Sair de uma banda não é traição alguma. Quantos já não o fizeram? Ainda mais que os 2 tinham estilos muito diferentes.
Agora, não saber perdoar não é vantagem alguma, é uma fraqueza.
ferlvs 1 year ago
@ferlvs Ja muitos os fizeram, mas a razao do roger não é sufeciente. aquilo foi parvoeira, tanto que sofreram os dois periodos de poucas vendas (em comparação com albuns anteriores) e deixaram de aparecer nos tops.
Outra coisa importante era a diferença nos estilos e grande variadade deles que preenchia a verdadeira alma de supertramp:)
Tom3PT 1 year ago
This is Rick Davies band...this is not Supertramp...
genesis2006 1 year ago