australia provokator... ,mereka sepertinya ga ingin melihat indonesia sama timorleste hidup damai, dan selalu ingin membuka luka lama ..sehingga indonesia dengan timor leste terus bermusuhan.. dasar australia anjing
@rendra191 : Ini adalah kisah nyata juga historlical, rakyat harus tahu asal usulnya. Karena banyak rakyat innocent yang mati terterbak TNI di 1975-1999.
5 young dumb journalist went into the front line and got killed..what is new bout that?..theres a scene bout a genocide...but i only counted 50 bodies hahah...it seem they only want to hint bout a massacre...bcuz its always tricky with the real world..allegation was made but no one ever try to prove it..in east timor
the allegation is that they were murdered by Indonesian special forces and since the war crimes investigation started we have had a senior military official come forward and say the reporters were murdered so we will catch those responsible and they will be punished (i think for war crimes we still have the death penalty)
really? which miltary senior official? it was genocide, then massacre, then mass murder..you see the pattern here? they was always demanding acces to east timor back in 80, 90. for evidence searching..now that east timor free...no one bother to excavate any evidence , proofs whatsoever..allegation is there..but no one will be arrested..cuz there is no proof in the first place..instead they are busy with oil now
no ones bothered to investigate further, then tell me why a war crimes investigation has been launched and the name of the official who's come forward and said that they were murdered is Col. Gatot Purwanto
gatot purwanto? hahahahah....we all know TNI killed those journalist....here i was talking bout the alleged genocide, massacre, mass murder..on east timor...you keep talking bout these 5 dead dumb white journalists? ...nobody ever brought to justice on killing journalist of war...never in the whole world...you tripping..now what about the genocide? massacre? mass murder? any investigation on that? any ongoing investigation? becuz i remember there was allegation on that...what about now?
Gatot Purwanto at the time of the invasion was a commando in the Indonesian Army and was then made into Timor's intelligence chief from 1975 onwards, no the alleged genocide will not be investigated as officially its a mattter for your Government, we are investigating the deaths of the men because they were Australian and as a result neutral in the matter and keep in mind we do have evience that the men were murdered and since its a war crimes investigation Diplomatic Immunity does not exist
yeah i know who gatot are..i have read his confession. he said the journalist was killed in confussion of battle, which was a rescue attempt by the fretilin. there was no execution and there was no clear order from jakarta neithe. so from his point of view these journalists died like any other journalists died in area of conflict...there is just no political will and no financial back up to follow through this case..its just vague
been a year..nothing happen ..dude war crimes justice only happen if there is a superpower enforced it or war winner side enforced it on the looser side. idealistic doesnt really apply. what can australia do? even there is a clear cofession bout the murder...not much. its politic...when its come to politics...a lot of things have to be considered....not just the victims. some times it does considered for greater...i wouldnt say good...maybe the word is priorities
@sirsmokalotii murder investigations take a long time, 12 months is nothing compared to some of our investigations, the gangland murders spring to mind or the 1998 Silk-Miller Police murders (they were the first Victorian Police personnel killed on duty since 1990) it took a long time for these investigations to close so be on the lookout because the AFP has all the time in the world.
this why i love debating you...i think you are an idealist..of course 12 month is nothing..compare to 20 years old case, 5 government regimes come and go...gatot might laugh to his grave soon...all the time in the world AFP can investigates as long as they want really......wake up man..no body investigate nothing...AFP and the rest of the world know evidently who kills them...AFP is waiting for political closing..from both side. your government not even pursuing it...even there was a confession
@irishgodfatherchris..yes i heard you.. how bout this ..if there is an ongoing investigation.. gimme your arguments why would Australian government pursue this how far would they go?..and there is a case for you to think about ..29th may 2007 Sutiyoso incident in sydney...i believe you knew bout it. and fyi..i concur the crime did happen...i never denied it or defended those who did it...my point of view was political and realistic..
@sirsmokalotii that incident was regrettable and idiotic on the New South Wales Police's part, the Federal Government takes this seriously however its not a political matter its a police procedural one, even the Federal Attorney-General cannot interfere with what the AFP is doing however we do know that if we lean on Indonesia enough they may just cooperate, we cannot send our police officers uninvited to Indonesia to arrest those we feel are responsible, thats an act of war
@irishgodfatherchris its not that i dont believe you...but this case doesnt need more investigation..this case need action at this point...at least you can agree with me on that.
Yeah..yeah AUSTRALIA...always "want" to looked like a HERO..in everymoment But, we know..what the reality. it is not an australian fault to defend their country. Muslim always blame by all.. So, WE..INDONESIAN peopple..know the other side of AUSTRALIA. Such as Australian do for INDONESIA. May us not blame each other??? How Pitty to blame but cannot do something! It Just Showed something that make the other war.. SUCK IT ALL!!!
Jibrilxx is fucking retard and a bigot who makes light of the genocide in Timor (200,000 dead in 24 years), a country he has never visited because in 1999, the 'infidels' voted for FREEDOM from the murderous Muslims. If he set foot in Timor, they'd string him and slit his throat...now that would be funny! Yes, this documentary is all part of the terrible Christian-Zionist war to put down Muslims and the East Timorese all want the Indos back, raping and massacring them
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my dick want fuck your mom, sucker ...!!! your country always creat trouble, why don't you try proof it ??? we know Australia, US, UK are killing many peop[le in Iraq and Afghanistan.
hye sucker....!!! your country owe to muslim whole the world. your country attack iraq, attack palistan, afghanistan. your country murder, kill many many civilian without sin..!!! keep your hear open, sucker.!!!
Hey, dickhead, what, exactly is "palistan"? Or do you mean "Palestine"? Which A) isn't a country and B) has never been invaded by Australia. The AIF fought the Ottoman Empire there when the Ottoman Empire declared war on Great Britain.
My country owes the whole Muslim world nothing. The Muslim world owes us for protecting the Afghanis from the Taliban, for liberating the Indonesians and Malays from Japan.
The Muslim world thanked us by murdering 88 Australians in Bali, a Hindu island.
so do we but this was murder and as such an act of war, we've heard your countries story and it doesn't match up with Timorese eyewitness accounts and incase you haven't heard we have launched a War Crimes Investigation
lol, everybody knows this is a worst movie. no evidence, this was happened in Timor Leste, not Australia. your court couldn't judge it. so, who's care, sucker ..!!!
it has nothing to do with your country you don't know any thing about the incident and one more thing dick head this a documentary not a movie fuck head . go back where you came from monkey boy!!!!
That's right, this happened in Timor Leste, a Catholic country, not in Indonesia. Your Muslim buddies invaded a Christian country and murdered 200,000 Christian civilians. So, who owes what to who, exactly?
When you've learned something about history, then you get to talk about it.
there is evidence at least 25 INDONESIAN soldiers have all given their side of story all claimeing that the men were murdered and you should keep this in mind the men were journalists from a neutral nation so not only was it murder but it was also an act of war
kiss my ass sucker..!! what kind of war you said???? maybe you mean war like iraq, afghanistan, and there are many many Australian pigs kill civilians, kids death, wife becomes single mom, your country kill them only for oil, and gas...!!! do you know that sucker????
its not us that taking the oil and gas its the Americans and you know that, we actually mine and supply our own with the bulk of it coming from the Timor Sea and Bass Strait. and to educate you further an act of war is an action taken by a country such as firing on foreign territory which could be seen as an act of aggression
you should kiss my ass. are you blind??? australia is a colonial state, australia born from UK, australia stole aborigin land. thne australia troops killing civilans in iraqi, afghanistan,. now I will say, can you proof indonesian killed your stupid repoters????? Australian is true war crimes.....!!!!! eat iraqi and afghanistanis shit..!!!! wakakakakakakkkk
jibrilxx, I know you are from Singapore. The Australian military, along with British troops, stoped the Commies from taking over your country. You say that you are 29 years old but you write like a little 8 year old.
I think you are the stupid donkey...!!!! are you shy to say that Australia is new colonial, your country kill civilians everyday in iraq and afghanistan????? wakakakakakakak asshole, your country is new war crime........ don't fortget without Indonesia, Australia can not fight terrorists and the smuggling of human.
wakakakakak, hye muslims killer....... your movie only bullshit..... nothing you can prove that Indonesian killed your 5 stupid reporters...!!! we know why you support Timor Leste. it's simple " oil and gas" wakakakakak fuck with your mom...!!!
Who at the time were civi clothes. These guys were murdered in cold blood a few days before the Indo's invaded East Timor and what's worse the Indo Military was supported by the US government. The Australian government was just as bad at the time as it did nothing.
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ColonelSuck 2 years ago
australia provokator... ,mereka sepertinya ga ingin melihat indonesia sama timorleste hidup damai, dan selalu ingin membuka luka lama ..sehingga indonesia dengan timor leste terus bermusuhan.. dasar australia anjing
rendra191 2 years ago
@rendra191 : Ini adalah kisah nyata juga historlical, rakyat harus tahu asal usulnya. Karena banyak rakyat innocent yang mati terterbak TNI di 1975-1999.
Peace.!
AQ3101 2 years ago
@rendra191 menurut gw sih indo yang terlalu pengecut untuk minta maaf
asekneo 1 year ago
yes malaysia heat indon
there killing journalist
not army
BUAYAIPOH 2 years ago
5 young dumb journalist went into the front line and got killed..what is new bout that?..theres a scene bout a genocide...but i only counted 50 bodies hahah...it seem they only want to hint bout a massacre...bcuz its always tricky with the real world..allegation was made but no one ever try to prove it..in east timor
sirsmokalotii 2 years ago
the allegation is that they were murdered by Indonesian special forces and since the war crimes investigation started we have had a senior military official come forward and say the reporters were murdered so we will catch those responsible and they will be punished (i think for war crimes we still have the death penalty)
irishgodfatherchris 2 years ago
really? which miltary senior official? it was genocide, then massacre, then mass murder..you see the pattern here? they was always demanding acces to east timor back in 80, 90. for evidence searching..now that east timor free...no one bother to excavate any evidence , proofs whatsoever..allegation is there..but no one will be arrested..cuz there is no proof in the first place..instead they are busy with oil now
sirsmokalotii 2 years ago
no ones bothered to investigate further, then tell me why a war crimes investigation has been launched and the name of the official who's come forward and said that they were murdered is Col. Gatot Purwanto
irishgodfatherchris 2 years ago
gatot purwanto? hahahahah....we all know TNI killed those journalist....here i was talking bout the alleged genocide, massacre, mass murder..on east timor...you keep talking bout these 5 dead dumb white journalists? ...nobody ever brought to justice on killing journalist of war...never in the whole world...you tripping..now what about the genocide? massacre? mass murder? any investigation on that? any ongoing investigation? becuz i remember there was allegation on that...what about now?
sirsmokalotii 2 years ago
Gatot Purwanto at the time of the invasion was a commando in the Indonesian Army and was then made into Timor's intelligence chief from 1975 onwards, no the alleged genocide will not be investigated as officially its a mattter for your Government, we are investigating the deaths of the men because they were Australian and as a result neutral in the matter and keep in mind we do have evience that the men were murdered and since its a war crimes investigation Diplomatic Immunity does not exist
irishgodfatherchris 2 years ago
yeah i know who gatot are..i have read his confession. he said the journalist was killed in confussion of battle, which was a rescue attempt by the fretilin. there was no execution and there was no clear order from jakarta neithe. so from his point of view these journalists died like any other journalists died in area of conflict...there is just no political will and no financial back up to follow through this case..its just vague
sirsmokalotii 2 years ago
@sirsmokalotii no political will hmm lets ask the AFP who've lanuched an investigation
irishgodfatherchris 1 year ago
been a year..nothing happen ..dude war crimes justice only happen if there is a superpower enforced it or war winner side enforced it on the looser side. idealistic doesnt really apply. what can australia do? even there is a clear cofession bout the murder...not much. its politic...when its come to politics...a lot of things have to be considered....not just the victims. some times it does considered for greater...i wouldnt say good...maybe the word is priorities
sirsmokalotii 8 months ago
@sirsmokalotii murder investigations take a long time, 12 months is nothing compared to some of our investigations, the gangland murders spring to mind or the 1998 Silk-Miller Police murders (they were the first Victorian Police personnel killed on duty since 1990) it took a long time for these investigations to close so be on the lookout because the AFP has all the time in the world.
irishgodfatherchris 8 months ago
this why i love debating you...i think you are an idealist..of course 12 month is nothing..compare to 20 years old case, 5 government regimes come and go...gatot might laugh to his grave soon...all the time in the world AFP can investigates as long as they want really......wake up man..no body investigate nothing...AFP and the rest of the world know evidently who kills them...AFP is waiting for political closing..from both side. your government not even pursuing it...even there was a confession
sirsmokalotii 8 months ago
@sirsmokalotii I'll say it again murder investigations take a long time and the AFP has all the time in the world
irishgodfatherchris 7 months ago
@irishgodfatherchris..yes i heard you.. how bout this ..if there is an ongoing investigation.. gimme your arguments why would Australian government pursue this how far would they go?..and there is a case for you to think about ..29th may 2007 Sutiyoso incident in sydney...i believe you knew bout it. and fyi..i concur the crime did happen...i never denied it or defended those who did it...my point of view was political and realistic..
sirsmokalotii 6 months ago
@sirsmokalotii that incident was regrettable and idiotic on the New South Wales Police's part, the Federal Government takes this seriously however its not a political matter its a police procedural one, even the Federal Attorney-General cannot interfere with what the AFP is doing however we do know that if we lean on Indonesia enough they may just cooperate, we cannot send our police officers uninvited to Indonesia to arrest those we feel are responsible, thats an act of war
irishgodfatherchris 6 months ago
@irishgodfatherchris its not that i dont believe you...but this case doesnt need more investigation..this case need action at this point...at least you can agree with me on that.
sirsmokalotii 6 months ago
Respond to this video... and then there will be a regime change..here..and there too...everything going to reset again.
sirsmokalotii 8 months ago
noeline12 2 years ago
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Gilb777 2 years ago
jibrilxx , your are like a bloody cockroach, spreading crap and diseases where ever they go. About time someone steped on you.
krissyeh 2 years ago
sudahlah jangan berdebat...jangankan orang asing sesama pribumi dan satu ibu pun akan dibunuh oleh suharto jika tidak seide
younglenin 2 years ago
pelem opo to iki....? je ra mudeng!
sen84oke 2 years ago
indonesians are a cancer
the World would be much better without them
Gilb777 2 years ago
bro its all mistake of our past goverment suharto would kill anyone who disagree with him event his own family,his people..its all his mistake
younglenin 2 years ago
I LOVE INDONESIA...!!!!
soekarnocheguevara 2 years ago
The Indonesian's were backed by the US Government
krissyeh 2 years ago
how could pigs like Australian kill muslim in iraq, afghanistan????
jibrilxx 2 years ago
australia stole gas???? oh my god, evil sucker..!!
jibrilxx 2 years ago
This is true story.
gamalita001 2 years ago
Jibrilxx is fucking retard and a bigot who makes light of the genocide in Timor (200,000 dead in 24 years), a country he has never visited because in 1999, the 'infidels' voted for FREEDOM from the murderous Muslims. If he set foot in Timor, they'd string him and slit his throat...now that would be funny! Yes, this documentary is all part of the terrible Christian-Zionist war to put down Muslims and the East Timorese all want the Indos back, raping and massacring them
TomthatiscalledTom 2 years ago
LOL.. suck movie..!!
jibrilxx 2 years ago
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johnmoreland 2 years ago
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worst movie.. and stupid producer..!!!
jibrilxx 2 years ago
what kind of dick head are you?
wogboy1705 2 years ago
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my dick want fuck your mom, sucker ...!!! your country always creat trouble, why don't you try proof it ??? we know Australia, US, UK are killing many peop[le in Iraq and Afghanistan.
jibrilxx 2 years ago
plz what does Balibo have to do with Iraq and Afghanistan
monkey boy im sure you where there you know what happen. fuck of idiot enjoy your ban-nans monkey boy go away enjoy your life in monkey land!!!!!
wogboy1705 2 years ago 2
Your country owes us. Your little island-city wouldn't exist without us, so time you shut your mouth and paid your dues.
All those 2AIF boys buried at Changi were "creating trouble", were they?
You ignorant shit.
Prod1Kh 2 years ago
hye sucker....!!! your country owe to muslim whole the world. your country attack iraq, attack palistan, afghanistan. your country murder, kill many many civilian without sin..!!! keep your hear open, sucker.!!!
jibrilxx 2 years ago
Hey, dickhead, what, exactly is "palistan"? Or do you mean "Palestine"? Which A) isn't a country and B) has never been invaded by Australia. The AIF fought the Ottoman Empire there when the Ottoman Empire declared war on Great Britain.
My country owes the whole Muslim world nothing. The Muslim world owes us for protecting the Afghanis from the Taliban, for liberating the Indonesians and Malays from Japan.
The Muslim world thanked us by murdering 88 Australians in Bali, a Hindu island.
Prod1Kh 2 years ago 2
For your information: Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Kuwait, Jordan and Saudi Arabia wouldn't exist without Australia defeating the Ottoman Empire.
Australians reached Damascus before Lawrence.
So, the Muslim world owes us for its "freedom".
We created Iraq. So you can stick your "invasion" up your arse.
Go learn history.
Prod1Kh 2 years ago 2
a buddhist island you mean (Bali is buddhist)
irishgodfatherchris 2 years ago
I said what I meant (I usually do).
Prod1Kh 2 years ago
BALINESE religion is HINDU, not BUDHIST
I think, this film is a story based of Australian eyes, so is just one side story ...
I am Indonesian, I don't like war and killing people story ...
We love PEACE!
ajiekstoneman 2 years ago
so do we but this was murder and as such an act of war, we've heard your countries story and it doesn't match up with Timorese eyewitness accounts and incase you haven't heard we have launched a War Crimes Investigation
irishgodfatherchris 2 years ago 2
lol, everybody knows this is a worst movie. no evidence, this was happened in Timor Leste, not Australia. your court couldn't judge it. so, who's care, sucker ..!!!
jibrilxx 2 years ago
it has nothing to do with your country you don't know any thing about the incident and one more thing dick head this a documentary not a movie fuck head . go back where you came from monkey boy!!!!
wogboy1705 2 years ago 2
That's right, this happened in Timor Leste, a Catholic country, not in Indonesia. Your Muslim buddies invaded a Christian country and murdered 200,000 Christian civilians. So, who owes what to who, exactly?
When you've learned something about history, then you get to talk about it.
Prod1Kh 2 years ago
there is evidence at least 25 INDONESIAN soldiers have all given their side of story all claimeing that the men were murdered and you should keep this in mind the men were journalists from a neutral nation so not only was it murder but it was also an act of war
irishgodfatherchris 2 years ago
kiss my ass sucker..!! what kind of war you said???? maybe you mean war like iraq, afghanistan, and there are many many Australian pigs kill civilians, kids death, wife becomes single mom, your country kill them only for oil, and gas...!!! do you know that sucker????
jibrilxx 2 years ago
its not us that taking the oil and gas its the Americans and you know that, we actually mine and supply our own with the bulk of it coming from the Timor Sea and Bass Strait. and to educate you further an act of war is an action taken by a country such as firing on foreign territory which could be seen as an act of aggression
irishgodfatherchris 2 years ago
jibrilxx , there is plenty of evidence that came out in a formal war crimes investigation and there are no statute of limitations on war crimes.
krissyeh 2 years ago
you should kiss my ass. are you blind??? australia is a colonial state, australia born from UK, australia stole aborigin land. thne australia troops killing civilans in iraqi, afghanistan,. now I will say, can you proof indonesian killed your stupid repoters????? Australian is true war crimes.....!!!!! eat iraqi and afghanistanis shit..!!!! wakakakakakakkkk
jibrilxx 2 years ago
jibrilxx, I know you are from Singapore. The Australian military, along with British troops, stoped the Commies from taking over your country. You say that you are 29 years old but you write like a little 8 year old.
krissyeh 2 years ago
I think you are the stupid donkey...!!!! are you shy to say that Australia is new colonial, your country kill civilians everyday in iraq and afghanistan????? wakakakakakakak asshole, your country is new war crime........ don't fortget without Indonesia, Australia can not fight terrorists and the smuggling of human.
jibrilxx 2 years ago
I challenge you to prove that Indonesia guilty....!!!! if not, I'm gonna kill you asshole......
jibrilxx 2 years ago
Well do tell how you are going to do that
krissyeh 2 years ago
wakakakakak, hye muslims killer....... your movie only bullshit..... nothing you can prove that Indonesian killed your 5 stupid reporters...!!! we know why you support Timor Leste. it's simple " oil and gas" wakakakakak fuck with your mom...!!!
jibrilxx 2 years ago
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just look at my video reply in the video responses above. I bet don't have the guts to do that.
krissyeh 2 years ago
what its say on this video documentary its not true.......bcoz there is no prove......
TheMarcar1126 2 years ago
They were killed by military.
johnmoreland 2 years ago
Who at the time were civi clothes. These guys were murdered in cold blood a few days before the Indo's invaded East Timor and what's worse the Indo Military was supported by the US government. The Australian government was just as bad at the time as it did nothing.
krissyeh 2 years ago
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krissyeh 2 years ago
Malcolm Rennie and Brian Peters were BRITISH not English - Rennie was from Scotland.
kmfw72 4 years ago