I wish I knew more about these individual cases. Sometimes, under some circumstances, companies do need to be closed down so that capital can be used more effectively, but sometimes companies are just chopped and and sold for the benefit of a few people. Either way, I would vote for the devil himself before I would vote for Romney.
Wow Claire...this is shameful...you quotemined the man out of context...he was saying he liked being able to control his own insurance...Congrats on acting like an ignorant creationist. I'm unsubscribing...I loved your channel when it actually talked about geology.
I'm a lifetime resident of Marion Indiana, and yes, there is still a lot of hatred and bitterness about SCM/Ampad. If you have seen Newt's "Super Pac" ad "When Mitt Romney Came To Town" - please know that most of the scenes they showed where the town looks destitute is a fraudulent peek into what our town really appears.
Just remember YOU USA, you deserve the leader you get! Obama may not be the baby you wanted and/or thought he would be several years ago, but if you are so stupid to vote a Republican, you will give use none USA fella's and felletta's lots of great laughs to mock your nation about upcomming years,... like we did with GW Bush. ... Reminds me the ever lasting question: "Did George W.'s wife have Bush?"
@JungleHyena You are right. It's a crazy, wasteful, silly form of government and we often elect some really dumb leaders with it. Do you have a better one?
I don't see how the Republican party could possibly win the presidential election with Romney. Especially when other Republicans are ripping him a new one about his history of vulture capitalism. Obama can relax.
Mitt 'Corporate Raider' Romney, goes around gutting the workplace, making money from closure after purchase. Wow, how American of him. Let's call him 'Captain Raider' from now on.
Hmm. So it would seem the US is a year away from experiencing the kind of 'austerity budget' we minor European economies have been labouring under for the past few years. Sorry to hear that.
@Misterb0z Oh, it's worse than that. We are on our long slow decline into the decrepitude once associated with the Ottoman Empire and Austria-Hungary.
@practicalmagic9 and REALLY? corperations are people...yeah...the upper 3% of the population...keeping them in summer homes, hot tubs, 1st class travel and OUT of touch with the rest of us...asshole indeed!thanks, claire!good vid~!
what is the vid of the clips you used at 1:11? & 1:29? As it seems probable Romney will be the nominee, he needs to get hit with this stuff daily in October.
Never heard that term "feral capitalist" before. I learn lots of things from you, Claire. It fits Romney very well. Refusing to release his tax returns, hiding money in the Cayman Islands, his three houses, and he claims he's "unemployed" ! He's been running for office ever since 1994 and only once held elective office. He's not worthy of all the adoration he's getting from Republicans who believe in the myth that he's a job creator.
@eggnchip The trick is not to give a damn. I suspect that Romney's attitude is like the bandit Calvera in the film "The Magnificent Seven": "If God did not want them (farmers) sheared, he would not have made them sheep." Put simply, Romney and his family consider themselves entitled, in much the same way medieval dukes and earls were entitled.
There has arisen an upper class who, like noblemen, see the public treasury as theirs to dispense. It is because the sheeple are swayed by advertising and advertising costs. Money counts. They support a candidate with advertising dollars for which they expect a quid pro quo.
Not just Romney but all the wealthy politicians. Obama's net worth rose by millions while in office.
How to know when a politician is lying? His lips are moving.
He earned his money legally. Also as fars as corporation equals people, only in the instance that they have the legal binding of people meaning they can be sued as one entity. MelianDialogue I think it was that cited this to be the fact in blogtv. Huntsman 2012.
@GingerAtheist : "Legal" does not equate to "moral." Romney is a scum-sucking pig who played the system for personal aggrandizement, blithely, obdurately wreaking lives, families, and local economies. Bastards like him are corrosive to our culture and the country's economic well-being.
@WildwoodClaire1 Romney is using the system of the country - capitalism. There is no general 'economy', there is 'capitalistic economy'.In a capitalistic social order, the laws are made to comply with the capitalistic economy.I am afraid Marx was right - the base (economic order) determines the superstructure (ideology, law, ethics).
@WildwoodClaire1 They took the bait. I never thought it was moral, but I don't care about morals in policy I just care whether someone was iriversably harmed.
The alternative will be Obama. He is an economic disaster; more debt added than any previous 4 years.
Money, money, money, money.
The choices are: crony capitalism (pro energy) vs. crony capitalism (pro big-business [at the expense of small businesses that employ the vast majority])
"Sound as a dollar." -- it used to mean "healthy."
@George4943 Increase of the Federal deficit during the past four years was partly due to Keynesian attempts to prevent total economic meltdown and partly to decreased revenues because of the recession. As you are aware (unless you have a longterm memory problem) Obama inherited a bad economy and a large deficit. One can debate whether attempts to prop up the economy via spending were effective, but I doubt that collapse of General Motors would have benefitted anyone.
@WildwoodClaire1 Going with Austrian rather than Keynesian economics, if GM had gone bankrupt someone would have bought their assets. Those factories, even if owned by someone else, would produce. But then you probably know of Austrian econ and don't need an explanation.
Who would have lost? Those who invested in a company that made bad business decisions. But even they would get their fair share of the purchase price of the company's assets after all senior debt was paid.
@George4943 Working people would have lost. The problem with "Austrian" economics is that it considers people as equipment, as if they can simply be warehoused until needed, or discarded and replaced when they break down. It is simply good old fashioned laissez faire that longs to return us to the Halcyon days of robber barons and steaming, squalid shotgun tenements filled with sweating, half-starved beasts of burden.
@WildwoodClaire1 No one wants the old fashioned laissez faire. But the crony capitalism is simply not Austrian economics which, by the way, does not treat people as equipment but as valued resources. My neighbor employs a dozen people to make phone books for small towns. Another runs a lumber company and employs about 40.
@GingerAtheist And, Huntsman may be the only person in the Republican field who isn't a flake, a loon, a thief, a philanderer, or a priest for the Ayn Rand cult.
@WildwoodClaire1 Yeah, but he's Republican. I can't bring up more than the tiniest bit of respect for someone who would voluntarily associate with their right-wing reactionary conservatism. From a European's point of view, even the Democrats are right-wingers, but Republicans would be just viewed as unelectable, inhuman. They'd get maybe 3%, toeing a mathematical line with Nazis and religious loons.
Our conservatives were happy with Reagan, uncomfortable with the Bushes, but fine with Obama now.
@GingerAtheist What's legal or not is largely defined by lobbies paid for by people like Romney themselves. Wealthy people get to decide on a larger number of words in financial laws than the common folk do. Also, when a particular situation is adverse to their interests, they can wait. Common folk usually can't.
The whole thing begs the question of whether democracy and capitalism really are good bedfellows.
@DoctorPlausible Contract law isn't usually lobbied into or out of law. Please show me what lobby and what law, because without this evidence I can reject your claim (Hitchens' Razor).
@GingerAtheist Er… I'm not sure whether you're being naïve or disingenuous. Which financial law? *Most* of them.
If you're going to play Hitchens' Razor, I could equally ask you for evidence that Romney earned his money legally, as you said. My point is that the phrase "wealth legally earned" can change its meaning according to whatever law favours the rich. A further point is that laws are a public concern, and if their use helps to make the public suffer, they should be changed.
@DoctorPlausible Inocent until proven guilty. The fact of him making the transactions. Both of these back up the claim that the default position is to presume it was legal. I am not an expert in any contract law, which is what it is called not financial law, so please enligten me.
If we were talking about the potato trade, we could talk about 'potato laws' because the potato trade is regulated by laws which, though not specifically about potatoes, regulates their trade. So please, choose to be clever rather than merely precise.
Calling a cruel, hurtful action "legal" just because it's protected by laws is, as I said, either naïve or disingenuous. Lawmakers have invested interests, and you must be old enough to know that.
@DoctorPlausible No, 'potato laws' don't exist. There are regulations on trade like tariffs etc.. Please don't make up your own language when speaking about policy it is the equivelent of saying 'thingy' and is unclear and shoddy. For financial law one could speak about regulations on the financial system, banks, and other investment items. I am speaking about contracts which Romney made, buying companies which he teared apart and sold, so please write using proper vocabulary.
@GingerAtheist You're 100% percent right, correct, exact and precise about 'financial' and 'potato' laws, of course. But, WTH, we're just some folks talking away here. If you go about asking for a reference bibliography every time someone disagrees with you on a point, it sounds like you're just trying to stuff a dead cow for milking it. The point is, it DOESN'T MATTER if someone's actions are strictly legal if the law is used to back up cruelty, greed and damn heartlessness.
@DoctorPlausible O, ok. Then I will just say what I said before to wildwoodclaire, "They took the bait. I never thought it was moral, but I don't care about morals in policy I just care whether someone was iriversably harmed." If you care so much go get someone elected in your county, state, and nation legislature. As far as third parties are concerned some of the contract can be null if the labor union argues so in court.
You are proboably wondering what the hell you are going to do with nothing but a complete bunch of unelectable shits as a choice against Obama. I wonder, what the hell WE ARE ALLgoing to do, because whoever is elected Pres affects the whole world not just the Americans. More to the point, I wonder what is going on that only this collection of reprobates gets this far in the process. Whoever is really in control does their machinations at this point in the process.
@NoFaithNoPain I hear you. All I can say is that it is not the civilian population of America. We have been unanimous in what we want our elected "representatives" to do, but they haven't done one thing the American public has demanded. I fear that it will come down to us killing them all to finally rid ourselves of them, but I don't think the American public has the balls for it. If this election cycle doesn't turn things around I fear that we will no longer have a country to worry about. Duck!
For more info on the invention and rise of these asset stripping "investment" practices and how they infiltrated and subverted the political process during the Reagan/Thatcher years I heartily recommend the 1999 Adam Curtis documentary series The Mayfair Set.
/user/kruger97#grid/user/6049BAA6B7DCE84C - For a playlist of ep #1
So the only republican candidate that isn't a bat-shit crazy liar is a robber baron? And the democrat alternative signed the martial law bill after saying he'd veto it? America, you scare me. :(
Confirmed: Americans are idiots. For two years the internet has been saturated with VOTE RON PAUL 2012 - it's been everywhere. And what's going to happen? You are going to send son of Bush Mormon moron Romney up to face Obama. What a fucking joke of a country.
Because every American President is a rich asshole. Seriously, our senators are rich assholes, our representatives are rich assholes, our judicial system is filled with rich assholes and our executive branch is full of rich assholes.
And people wonder why our country is so fucked up... Its because rich assholes run it.
To someone from Australia (me) the USA and its politicians appear to be either useless or crazy. The republicans all appear evil and self serving and your democrats appear useless, scared to act and dimwitted. You guys need to work on education some more before you guys can even THINK about voting in someone who isn't trying to screw you all over for personal gain.
@Avatar1987 American politics is a carefully orchestrated play of brainwashing and propaganda. America's super rich have made a fine art of creating the illusion of choice within a political system designed to serve only them and brainwashing others to turn against their own interests.
I'm not just talking about poor/middle class conservatives. I mean liberals too who insist on voting for the "lesser of 2 evils" even when it is pointed out that is a common propaganda technique.
@WildwoodClaire1 Aaaahhh, well clash away! It is entertainning as well as frightening from your neighbor's perspective... Yet again we have a more than american prime-minister at the moment which is a whole lot more frightening to me.
@chica476 Agreed, as a description of the economic system as it stands that one is spot on, these people want to make serfs of the working and middle class', it's really quite disturbing.
This is exactly the type of person we're trying to get OUT of government. Someone who's already proven he's only interested in raping everyone around him for his personal benefit. Fuck a Mitt Romney. Mitt? what kind of fucking name is that?
I personally think he doesn't have a chance between his millions and his Mormonism. Once a Christian realizes his religion.... they'd rather vote for Obama than a heretic.
@dangerouslytalented I don't even know who that is. hehe is he a repuklican running along with these others? I'm not much on politics so not really sure.
Pretty much everyone eye-balling the White House this year sucks! I have serious buyer's remorse about Obama, but not enough to vote for this specimen! I was willing to give Ron Paul the benefit of the doubt, but there isn't enough wacky tobaccy to get me thru four years of him either!
And the worst part is that I'm willing to bet that Rick Scott makes Romney look like a Sunday School teacher. That rat bastard BOUGHT the governor's mansion with 70 million dollars of his own cash, and he managed to get away with robbing Medicare for close to 2 BILLION dollars. He took home 10 million in severance and 300 million in stock options..he's a shining example of predatory capitalism.
Amazing how eerilly that last photo was with all his sons wearing near identical attire. Who's sons do that in the real world.
If i was a member of the Romney pact my defense would probably be all these acusations/things brought are/were in the past and should remain there and hope that the ignorant voters buy it.
@java501 That's a Mormon thing. Family pictures with clone looks. I was Mor(m)on, all my family except my brother still are. A lot of our family pics look like that - or similar.
The sickest part is that all the conservative blue collar red-staters are the ones worst hurt by this guy, but if he's the nominee, they'll all run out and vote for him because they think Obama will wreck the economy....
I hate shit like this. They buy up perfectly viable companies, rape them, sell off the best stuff, then close them as unviable. Killling thousands of jobs in the process.
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My impression is that you can't screw over people who are working within a successful business. Mismanaged businesses fail and get bought out by people willing (or wanting) to make harsh decisions and screw people over. Failing businesses need to revamped or destroyed, and that seems to be what folks like Romney have done. The costs to workers are high, and so a social safety net is reasonable. But this "predatory" capitalism probably results in an overall good to society. Sorry.
@WildwoodClaire1 I've experienced a failing worksite more than once, and the only reasonable solution I find is to shut it down. What would you want? Keep it running for the workers' benefit despite the fact that it's hemorrhaging money? This is obviously important to you... what do you think should be done in such circumstances? I don't understand your hostility.
@ghuegel i think you need to watch the video again. maybe I am wrong, but the way I understood the information provided in the video was that a company would be purchased, then all it's capitol leveraged and drained, and then finally go into bankruptcy screwing everyone. maybe i am missing something. regards.
@susodino I don't buy the narrative of the video; it looks like propaganda. Some business models fail, and the workers lose out; this hurts them. It's unreasonable to assume that the original business was all good. The fact that it could be bought out and dissolved belies the notion that it was a useful enterprise. Failing businesses *should* be allowed to fail. People should have a safety net in a wealthy society, but failing companies shouldn't be bailed out. That's it.
The businesses weren't failing before they were taken over and gutted. The consistency of their failures by the same people, and the consistency of the profits made by those same people show they aren't failing businesses before their takeovers.
Failing businesses should be allowed to fail, but crooks who buy businesses and make them fail while sucking out the profit for themselves should be arrested and imprisoned just like armed robbers.
@ghuegel So then, check! Don't base your entire opinion on an assumption you just made that has no basis in reality, that's what Republicans do. That's how stooopid people rationalise their positions.
If you believe these businesses were failing anyway when Romney gutted them to improve his bank balance, RESEARCH it. Just maybe, you'll come to the same conculsion as wildwoodclaire - there wasn't a damn think wrong with the companies or their business models. Look it up for youself.
@ghuegel "The fact that it could be bought out and dissolved belies the notion that it was a useful enterprise."
What a very weird concept you have there. In reality, a business model is regarded as a failure by capitalists not when it loses money, but when it doesn't make a huge profit. If it just breaks even or makes a 1% profit, it's not enough to satisfy greed. Capitalists need a 10% profit. So what your ideology considers a 'failure' is very different from what their greed does.
@ghuegel hmmm. I agree that failing business should not be bailed out. my impression was that these companies were purchased then raped of it's assets for a few privileged investors. I'm sure it's legal but I don't think it's ethical if I understand all this correctly. Greed is a dangerous behavior in capitalism. Seems like greed is our nature unfortunately. Can you maybe clear up this "propaganda" by inserting omitted facts that would change the message in this video?
@ghuegel No. I worked in the computer industry for more than 20 years. I endured downturns, layoffs, restructuring, reorganizing and having to do the work of 3 people if I wanted to keep my job. My dad was an engineer in the Aerospace industry and that was much the same way. I understand tough decisions being made whether we like it or not.
@meleagrisfelis The difference is whether the people making the decisions are trying to save the company - and as many jobs as possible (as our company officers did) - or whether they are strip mining the company and selling off the assets in order to make money for themselves. The latter is feral capitalism. My companies officers took paycuts and deferred stock options. Romney and people like him deny themselves nothing.
@meleagrisfelis I agree that Mitt Romney doesn't deny himself anything. I've seen the house he bought in La Jolla, CA... nice place on the beach, even if the place is just for some political position. But if a company is based in an unprofitable scheme, there is no good outcome for the workers... nobody buys new tech for charity. So where could they earn money from?, if it's a failing business model? Good intentions don't make people buy a product... so... ???
@Paetaor I know the "I like to fire people" is out of context, it' part of the rather bitter joke. Everyone knows it is. And they know it is oddly reminiscent of what the man has made his living doing.
@tirua100 While I can agree about the Republican candidates (Obama is also to the right & seems to be governing more like a "moderate" republican), polls show the American population as a whole, with the exception of a rather small extreme right-wing minority, (mostly from the Christian right & in the south), are far more to the left than their politicians. This applies to almost all social issues. In fact, the majority, when asked, sound a lot like Canadians.
I have lots of problems with people inheriting a lot of money because rich lobbyists have twisted the laws around so the rich remain rich and the money doesn't circulate. Inheritance taxes have changed dramatically in favor of the wealthy. Higher taxes, which are a form of salary cap, on high income earners was a smart idea, now abandoned, as it incentivized them into investing in their workers instead of banking the money...
I watched his victory speech for the NH primary and I think I found your next dimbulb of the week. It's Romeny for the idiocy that he was spewing in that speech.
America should try leaning towards socialism, no kidding. But it's not happening as it's virtually impossible to get a third party going. That and Americans being conditioned to reject the idea like an incompatible organ transplant :)
@Flod81 Yeah, I have no problem with someone making (or inheriting) a lot of money, but when they are screwing people and local economies for their own venal reasons, I see red.
where is the clip they say : "Money, money, money" from?
Ghi102 1 month ago
@Ghi102 "Cabaret."
WildwoodClaire1 1 month ago
I wish I knew more about these individual cases. Sometimes, under some circumstances, companies do need to be closed down so that capital can be used more effectively, but sometimes companies are just chopped and and sold for the benefit of a few people. Either way, I would vote for the devil himself before I would vote for Romney.
christo930 1 month ago
Remember Mit dog Shamus. The poor dog had to ride in a dog carrier on top of the car. Because Mit just didn't want to paid anymore money
pigwigpa 1 month ago
There is nobody good to vote for. I'm sadly disappointed in democracy. We need a new congress.
mayrana2 1 month ago
Wow Claire...this is shameful...you quotemined the man out of context...he was saying he liked being able to control his own insurance...Congrats on acting like an ignorant creationist. I'm unsubscribing...I loved your channel when it actually talked about geology.
UpwardBound5656 1 month ago
@UpwardBound5656 Good riddance, you're an idiot.
WildwoodClaire1 1 month ago 6
I'm a lifetime resident of Marion Indiana, and yes, there is still a lot of hatred and bitterness about SCM/Ampad. If you have seen Newt's "Super Pac" ad "When Mitt Romney Came To Town" - please know that most of the scenes they showed where the town looks destitute is a fraudulent peek into what our town really appears.
JTlovesDexter2 1 month ago
Romney...dimbulb of the century!
JTlovesDexter2 1 month ago
us***
JungleHyena 1 month ago
Just remember YOU USA, you deserve the leader you get! Obama may not be the baby you wanted and/or thought he would be several years ago, but if you are so stupid to vote a Republican, you will give use none USA fella's and felletta's lots of great laughs to mock your nation about upcomming years,... like we did with GW Bush. ... Reminds me the ever lasting question: "Did George W.'s wife have Bush?"
JungleHyena 1 month ago
@JungleHyena You are right. It's a crazy, wasteful, silly form of government and we often elect some really dumb leaders with it. Do you have a better one?
foxlake02 1 month ago
Why people still vote is beyond me. They all advocate violence to pay for things. Some are just less despicable than others.
llamaczar 1 month ago
Stephen Colbert will announce whether or not he is a GOP candidate tonight.
I may have to register Republican if he does.
foxlake02 1 month ago
You diced up Gekko's words!!!
qtzlctl2012 1 month ago
@qtzlctl2012 The point was less effective without the edit.
WildwoodClaire1 1 month ago
@WildwoodClaire1 you're probably right. Just aesthetically i always loved how he delivered those lines
qtzlctl2012 1 month ago
Romney should really get some help from that reality show, y'know, Hoarders.
TheCraich 1 month ago
Here is the full video, "When Mitt Romney Came to Town"
/watch?v=UYg_OdXNc1Q
robertmike57 1 month ago
Ah Romney, he knows how to play the game of crony-capitalist best.
TheAtheistPaladin 1 month ago
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I think Newt is telling Mitt, Mitt A famous philosopher once said.
“Toto, I do not think we are in Kansas anymore”,
ups wrong quote, I start to sound like Herman Cain
JerezJulio 1 month ago
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JerezJulio 1 month ago
Just what is the song at the very end?
MrKrov 1 month ago
@MrKrov The I-95 Asshole song
WildwoodClaire1 1 month ago
@WildwoodClaire1 'k thanks.
MrKrov 1 month ago
Yet there's still people who support him.....
Arikiel 1 month ago
Romney is a racist see here
watch?v=RckqB2u9r3k
Huntsman 2012!!
NH4HuntsmanJr 1 month ago
I don't see how the Republican party could possibly win the presidential election with Romney. Especially when other Republicans are ripping him a new one about his history of vulture capitalism. Obama can relax.
foxlake02 1 month ago
All true patriots™ use offshore accounts, dontchaknow?
Anonamouse7 1 month ago
@Anonamouse7 While demanding that I pay higher taxes, apparently.
WildwoodClaire1 1 month ago
Mitt 'Corporate Raider' Romney, goes around gutting the workplace, making money from closure after purchase. Wow, how American of him. Let's call him 'Captain Raider' from now on.
saxmanchiro 1 month ago
@saxmanchiro Yeah. Now THERE'S a man uniquely qualified to fix our economy. :))
WildwoodClaire1 1 month ago
Oh, yeah, "Mutt" Romney the Moron - just what we need to sink America further...
WWZenaDo 1 month ago
Shame on anyone who votes for this disgusting piece of crap.
Or most of the others to be honest.
annoyed001 1 month ago
Romney for president!
Larvemannenz001 1 month ago
Hmm. So it would seem the US is a year away from experiencing the kind of 'austerity budget' we minor European economies have been labouring under for the past few years. Sorry to hear that.
Misterb0z 1 month ago
@Misterb0z Oh, it's worse than that. We are on our long slow decline into the decrepitude once associated with the Ottoman Empire and Austria-Hungary.
WildwoodClaire1 1 month ago
sone of a wealthy businessman....i think we can eliminate the word "wealthy"...it is presumed, and creates a more accurate acronymn
practicalmagic9 1 month ago
@practicalmagic9 and REALLY? corperations are people...yeah...the upper 3% of the population...keeping them in summer homes, hot tubs, 1st class travel and OUT of touch with the rest of us...asshole indeed!thanks, claire!good vid~!
practicalmagic9 1 month ago
One can see that light blue shirts are the way to go to be successful...
DeistByDefinition 1 month ago
@DeistByDefinition makes me wish they were standing infront of a blue screen, so we'd just see some silly floating heads...lol!
practicalmagic9 1 month ago
What a bunch of losers you have to choose from. Good luck!
AuntieDiluvian 1 month ago
Vote for Romney, Robber Baron in Chief.
Akira625 1 month ago
Great viddy.
Chimpdecheese 1 month ago
A company named "Bain"...should have spelled it "Bane" instead....
skeletonmom 1 month ago
CHOICE!
cjeffers101 1 month ago
what is the vid of the clips you used at 1:11? & 1:29? As it seems probable Romney will be the nominee, he needs to get hit with this stuff daily in October.
robertmike57 1 month ago
He is a predator. He will have, if elected, an extremely negative effect.
gabiotta 1 month ago
Well done. Since Mitt is the only one of the contenders with a brain cell, it's important to get this message out to people.
Hereticbooks 1 month ago
I really really hope Huntsman wins the nomination. He wont because he's too sane, though.
SecondOpinionMan 1 month ago
@SecondOpinionMan I'm hoping it will be Santorum because I want a genuinely insane theocrat to run, just for the LOLs.
WildwoodClaire1 1 month ago
Never heard that term "feral capitalist" before. I learn lots of things from you, Claire. It fits Romney very well. Refusing to release his tax returns, hiding money in the Cayman Islands, his three houses, and he claims he's "unemployed" ! He's been running for office ever since 1994 and only once held elective office. He's not worthy of all the adoration he's getting from Republicans who believe in the myth that he's a job creator.
awreslr2 1 month ago
@awreslr2 I just invented it.
WildwoodClaire1 1 month ago
So this is a "job creator". How Orwellian ! meh....
tenagliac 1 month ago 2
Yet they call us atheists amoral assholes....
Azathoth59 1 month ago
how do people live witH themselves knowing they've destroyed thousands of lives just for MORE money?
eggnchip 1 month ago 11
@eggnchip The trick is not to give a damn. I suspect that Romney's attitude is like the bandit Calvera in the film "The Magnificent Seven": "If God did not want them (farmers) sheared, he would not have made them sheep." Put simply, Romney and his family consider themselves entitled, in much the same way medieval dukes and earls were entitled.
WildwoodClaire1 1 month ago 21
@WildwoodClaire1 And now he's making his play for the throne.
eggnchip 1 month ago
@WildwoodClaire1 One of my favorite quotes EVER!
ChunxOfEarth 1 month ago
@WildwoodClaire1 about your @eggnchip
There has arisen an upper class who, like noblemen, see the public treasury as theirs to dispense. It is because the sheeple are swayed by advertising and advertising costs. Money counts. They support a candidate with advertising dollars for which they expect a quid pro quo.
Not just Romney but all the wealthy politicians. Obama's net worth rose by millions while in office.
How to know when a politician is lying? His lips are moving.
George4943 1 month ago
@eggnchip If you have no conscience you have no guilt or remorse. It's really that simple.
belfastfreethinker 1 month ago
He earned his money legally. Also as fars as corporation equals people, only in the instance that they have the legal binding of people meaning they can be sued as one entity. MelianDialogue I think it was that cited this to be the fact in blogtv. Huntsman 2012.
GingerAtheist 1 month ago
@GingerAtheist : "Legal" does not equate to "moral." Romney is a scum-sucking pig who played the system for personal aggrandizement, blithely, obdurately wreaking lives, families, and local economies. Bastards like him are corrosive to our culture and the country's economic well-being.
WildwoodClaire1 1 month ago 24
@WildwoodClaire1 Romney is using the system of the country - capitalism. There is no general 'economy', there is 'capitalistic economy'.In a capitalistic social order, the laws are made to comply with the capitalistic economy.I am afraid Marx was right - the base (economic order) determines the superstructure (ideology, law, ethics).
Excellent video! Fav'ed
dewinthemorning 1 month ago
@WildwoodClaire1 They took the bait. I never thought it was moral, but I don't care about morals in policy I just care whether someone was iriversably harmed.
GingerAtheist 1 month ago
@WildwoodClaire1 About your @gingeratheist
The alternative will be Obama. He is an economic disaster; more debt added than any previous 4 years.
Money, money, money, money.
The choices are: crony capitalism (pro energy) vs. crony capitalism (pro big-business [at the expense of small businesses that employ the vast majority])
"Sound as a dollar." -- it used to mean "healthy."
George4943 1 month ago
@George4943 Increase of the Federal deficit during the past four years was partly due to Keynesian attempts to prevent total economic meltdown and partly to decreased revenues because of the recession. As you are aware (unless you have a longterm memory problem) Obama inherited a bad economy and a large deficit. One can debate whether attempts to prop up the economy via spending were effective, but I doubt that collapse of General Motors would have benefitted anyone.
WildwoodClaire1 1 month ago
@WildwoodClaire1 Going with Austrian rather than Keynesian economics, if GM had gone bankrupt someone would have bought their assets. Those factories, even if owned by someone else, would produce. But then you probably know of Austrian econ and don't need an explanation.
Who would have lost? Those who invested in a company that made bad business decisions. But even they would get their fair share of the purchase price of the company's assets after all senior debt was paid.
Just sayin'.
George4943 1 month ago
@George4943 Working people would have lost. The problem with "Austrian" economics is that it considers people as equipment, as if they can simply be warehoused until needed, or discarded and replaced when they break down. It is simply good old fashioned laissez faire that longs to return us to the Halcyon days of robber barons and steaming, squalid shotgun tenements filled with sweating, half-starved beasts of burden.
WildwoodClaire1 1 month ago
@WildwoodClaire1 No one wants the old fashioned laissez faire. But the crony capitalism is simply not Austrian economics which, by the way, does not treat people as equipment but as valued resources. My neighbor employs a dozen people to make phone books for small towns. Another runs a lumber company and employs about 40.
They are cronies of no one.
George4943 1 month ago
@GingerAtheist And, Huntsman may be the only person in the Republican field who isn't a flake, a loon, a thief, a philanderer, or a priest for the Ayn Rand cult.
WildwoodClaire1 1 month ago 7
@WildwoodClaire1 Are you saying Huntsman is the best candidate amoung the republicans. Or the best candidate in general?
gulbirk 1 month ago
@gulbirk I merely implied that he is the least malodorous dance partner at the Skunks' Ball.
WildwoodClaire1 1 month ago
@WildwoodClaire1 Yeah, but he's Republican. I can't bring up more than the tiniest bit of respect for someone who would voluntarily associate with their right-wing reactionary conservatism. From a European's point of view, even the Democrats are right-wingers, but Republicans would be just viewed as unelectable, inhuman. They'd get maybe 3%, toeing a mathematical line with Nazis and religious loons.
Our conservatives were happy with Reagan, uncomfortable with the Bushes, but fine with Obama now.
blackwolf1200 1 month ago
@WildwoodClaire1 Huntsman flip flops and isn't honest about his stance on several political issues.
EatTinker 1 month ago
@EatTinker I didn't say I supported him. In fact, I couldn't possibly support someone who has carried out some of his actions as governor of Utah.
WildwoodClaire1 1 month ago
@WildwoodClaire1
That "Ayn Rand cult" bit made me fall in love with you Claire.
May I propose ?
gaglamesh731 1 month ago
@GingerAtheist What's legal or not is largely defined by lobbies paid for by people like Romney themselves. Wealthy people get to decide on a larger number of words in financial laws than the common folk do. Also, when a particular situation is adverse to their interests, they can wait. Common folk usually can't.
The whole thing begs the question of whether democracy and capitalism really are good bedfellows.
DoctorPlausible 1 month ago
@DoctorPlausible Contract law isn't usually lobbied into or out of law. Please show me what lobby and what law, because without this evidence I can reject your claim (Hitchens' Razor).
GingerAtheist 1 month ago
@GingerAtheist Er… I'm not sure whether you're being naïve or disingenuous. Which financial law? *Most* of them.
If you're going to play Hitchens' Razor, I could equally ask you for evidence that Romney earned his money legally, as you said. My point is that the phrase "wealth legally earned" can change its meaning according to whatever law favours the rich. A further point is that laws are a public concern, and if their use helps to make the public suffer, they should be changed.
DoctorPlausible 1 month ago 3
@DoctorPlausible Inocent until proven guilty. The fact of him making the transactions. Both of these back up the claim that the default position is to presume it was legal. I am not an expert in any contract law, which is what it is called not financial law, so please enligten me.
GingerAtheist 1 month ago
@GingerAtheist "Please enlighten me." HAHAHAHAHA
If we were talking about the potato trade, we could talk about 'potato laws' because the potato trade is regulated by laws which, though not specifically about potatoes, regulates their trade. So please, choose to be clever rather than merely precise.
Calling a cruel, hurtful action "legal" just because it's protected by laws is, as I said, either naïve or disingenuous. Lawmakers have invested interests, and you must be old enough to know that.
DoctorPlausible 1 month ago
@DoctorPlausible No, 'potato laws' don't exist. There are regulations on trade like tariffs etc.. Please don't make up your own language when speaking about policy it is the equivelent of saying 'thingy' and is unclear and shoddy. For financial law one could speak about regulations on the financial system, banks, and other investment items. I am speaking about contracts which Romney made, buying companies which he teared apart and sold, so please write using proper vocabulary.
GingerAtheist 1 month ago
@GingerAtheist You're 100% percent right, correct, exact and precise about 'financial' and 'potato' laws, of course. But, WTH, we're just some folks talking away here. If you go about asking for a reference bibliography every time someone disagrees with you on a point, it sounds like you're just trying to stuff a dead cow for milking it. The point is, it DOESN'T MATTER if someone's actions are strictly legal if the law is used to back up cruelty, greed and damn heartlessness.
DoctorPlausible 1 month ago
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@DoctorPlausible O, ok. Then I will just say what I said before to wildwoodclaire, "They took the bait. I never thought it was moral, but I don't care about morals in policy I just care whether someone was iriversably harmed." If you care so much go get someone elected in your county, state, and nation legislature. As far as third parties are concerned some of the contract can be null if the labor union argues so in court.
GingerAtheist 1 month ago
Romney makes me queasy.
gothatfunk 1 month ago
You are proboably wondering what the hell you are going to do with nothing but a complete bunch of unelectable shits as a choice against Obama. I wonder, what the hell WE ARE ALLgoing to do, because whoever is elected Pres affects the whole world not just the Americans. More to the point, I wonder what is going on that only this collection of reprobates gets this far in the process. Whoever is really in control does their machinations at this point in the process.
NoFaithNoPain 1 month ago
@NoFaithNoPain I hear you. All I can say is that it is not the civilian population of America. We have been unanimous in what we want our elected "representatives" to do, but they haven't done one thing the American public has demanded. I fear that it will come down to us killing them all to finally rid ourselves of them, but I don't think the American public has the balls for it. If this election cycle doesn't turn things around I fear that we will no longer have a country to worry about. Duck!
yeshuahfullofit 1 month ago
@yeshuahfullofit Love then name By The Way LOL :)
NoFaithNoPain 1 month ago
@NoFaithNoPain Thanks! XDD
yeshuahfullofit 1 month ago
For more info on the invention and rise of these asset stripping "investment" practices and how they infiltrated and subverted the political process during the Reagan/Thatcher years I heartily recommend the 1999 Adam Curtis documentary series The Mayfair Set.
/user/kruger97#grid/user/6049BAA6B7DCE84C - For a playlist of ep #1
Venator70 1 month ago
@Venator70 Oops. I think I borked the link. Direct link to ep 1 part 1 is at /watch?v=5U-sNn28dJk
Venator70 1 month ago
I find it hillarious that America is becoming a feudal state due to a party called the Republicans.
DarthAzabrush 1 month ago 3
yes, but if the US is going towards bankrupcy anyway, why not do it with a guy that has done it so well, in so many cases, in the past?
eyallev 1 month ago
So the only republican candidate that isn't a bat-shit crazy liar is a robber baron? And the democrat alternative signed the martial law bill after saying he'd veto it? America, you scare me. :(
Take Care
akylae101 1 month ago
@akylae101 Huntsman appears to be brighter than Mitt and doesn't have the baggage.
WildwoodClaire1 1 month ago
@WildwoodClaire1
Haven't heard of him. I really hope he gets more coverage, ASAP.
Take care
akylae101 1 month ago
Confirmed: Americans are idiots. For two years the internet has been saturated with VOTE RON PAUL 2012 - it's been everywhere. And what's going to happen? You are going to send son of Bush Mormon moron Romney up to face Obama. What a fucking joke of a country.
HitMeQuick 1 month ago 2
@HitMeQuick
(whispers) Maybe it's some plot conspired by Democrats to win elections by forcing Reps to choose only ridiculous candidates.
SwineNahNah 1 month ago
Ron Jeremy 2012
ApemanD 1 month ago
@ApemanD Ron Jeremy: If you're going to be screwed, might as well be screwed by a pro!
Squiglypig 1 month ago
It's a shitty crop this year..
SlideRulePirate 1 month ago
It kinda scares me that this is the only one with any hope of besting obama... and he won't.. and it means you get another 4 years of black Bush.
Darkfirebrand 1 month ago
What dog of a man.
With a record like that i dont know how he can even bring himself to run for president.
He should lose and anyone voting for him has to be retarded.
australianews 1 month ago
@australianews
Because every American President is a rich asshole. Seriously, our senators are rich assholes, our representatives are rich assholes, our judicial system is filled with rich assholes and our executive branch is full of rich assholes.
And people wonder why our country is so fucked up... Its because rich assholes run it.
BusinessIDBAI 1 month ago 2
Pretty much the standard American business model.
glifencible 1 month ago
To someone from Australia (me) the USA and its politicians appear to be either useless or crazy. The republicans all appear evil and self serving and your democrats appear useless, scared to act and dimwitted. You guys need to work on education some more before you guys can even THINK about voting in someone who isn't trying to screw you all over for personal gain.
Avatar1987 1 month ago
@Avatar1987 American politics is a carefully orchestrated play of brainwashing and propaganda. America's super rich have made a fine art of creating the illusion of choice within a political system designed to serve only them and brainwashing others to turn against their own interests.
I'm not just talking about poor/middle class conservatives. I mean liberals too who insist on voting for the "lesser of 2 evils" even when it is pointed out that is a common propaganda technique.
WhirlingWolves 1 month ago
I thought you didn't want to dwell into the political scene because it would be too much bullshit shacking... What happened from last video to now?
tankusfred 1 month ago
@tankusfred i think she meant not getting involved in the way of dim bulb of the week.
Avatar1987 1 month ago
@tankusfred Romney pissed me off. And, I just said I didn't want to start naming them "Dim Bulbs," I didn't say I wasn't going to talk about them.
WildwoodClaire1 1 month ago
@WildwoodClaire1 Aaaahhh, well clash away! It is entertainning as well as frightening from your neighbor's perspective... Yet again we have a more than american prime-minister at the moment which is a whole lot more frightening to me.
tankusfred 1 month ago
At first, i thought it said "Feudal Capitalism"... which wouldn't actually stray too far from the original title. :P
chica476 1 month ago
@chica476 Agreed, as a description of the economic system as it stands that one is spot on, these people want to make serfs of the working and middle class', it's really quite disturbing.
anothergazman 1 month ago
Blue Horseshoe loves South Carolina.
army2k08 1 month ago
Even Larry the Liquidator wasn't that bad.
Astrobrant2 1 month ago
You do know that the group calling themselves "Winning our Future" is a front group for the Newt Gingrich campain?
TheMudbrooker 1 month ago
@TheMudbrooker yeah, but I used clips from them anyway because they were conveying a message with which I agree.
WildwoodClaire1 1 month ago
This is exactly the type of person we're trying to get OUT of government. Someone who's already proven he's only interested in raping everyone around him for his personal benefit. Fuck a Mitt Romney. Mitt? what kind of fucking name is that?
I personally think he doesn't have a chance between his millions and his Mormonism. Once a Christian realizes his religion.... they'd rather vote for Obama than a heretic.
TruthSurge 1 month ago
@TruthSurge ... and Huntsman has exactly the same problem, but without name recognition.
dangerouslytalented 1 month ago
@dangerouslytalented I don't even know who that is. hehe is he a repuklican running along with these others? I'm not much on politics so not really sure.
TruthSurge 1 month ago
@TruthSurge He's the one guy in the Republican field who appears to be neither an idiot, insane, a thief, or a pig f***ing whore.
WildwoodClaire1 1 month ago
@WildwoodClaire1 ah. prob why he's not getting as much attention.
TruthSurge 1 month ago
@TruthSurge Precisely.
WildwoodClaire1 1 month ago
1:07 that's a scary picture... {:[
Polum824545201 1 month ago
Pretty much everyone eye-balling the White House this year sucks! I have serious buyer's remorse about Obama, but not enough to vote for this specimen! I was willing to give Ron Paul the benefit of the doubt, but there isn't enough wacky tobaccy to get me thru four years of him either!
RadarKat73080 1 month ago
And the worst part is that I'm willing to bet that Rick Scott makes Romney look like a Sunday School teacher. That rat bastard BOUGHT the governor's mansion with 70 million dollars of his own cash, and he managed to get away with robbing Medicare for close to 2 BILLION dollars. He took home 10 million in severance and 300 million in stock options..he's a shining example of predatory capitalism.
Homer177 1 month ago
Capitalism must never be questioned, for in America it is greater than God. Now, go swiftboat that Romney boy!
goosed1 1 month ago
Amazing how eerilly that last photo was with all his sons wearing near identical attire. Who's sons do that in the real world.
If i was a member of the Romney pact my defense would probably be all these acusations/things brought are/were in the past and should remain there and hope that the ignorant voters buy it.
java501 1 month ago
@java501 That's a Mormon thing. Family pictures with clone looks. I was Mor(m)on, all my family except my brother still are. A lot of our family pics look like that - or similar.
Ersa1a 1 month ago
The sickest part is that all the conservative blue collar red-staters are the ones worst hurt by this guy, but if he's the nominee, they'll all run out and vote for him because they think Obama will wreck the economy....
SiriusMined 1 month ago 2
I hate shit like this. They buy up perfectly viable companies, rape them, sell off the best stuff, then close them as unviable. Killling thousands of jobs in the process.
SiriusMined 1 month ago
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My impression is that you can't screw over people who are working within a successful business. Mismanaged businesses fail and get bought out by people willing (or wanting) to make harsh decisions and screw people over. Failing businesses need to revamped or destroyed, and that seems to be what folks like Romney have done. The costs to workers are high, and so a social safety net is reasonable. But this "predatory" capitalism probably results in an overall good to society. Sorry.
ghuegel 1 month ago
@ghuegel Thanks for responding. You're a fucking idiot.
WildwoodClaire1 1 month ago 10
@WildwoodClaire1 Thank you too. Fuck you too. Ain't politics grand?
ghuegel 1 month ago
@WildwoodClaire1 I've experienced a failing worksite more than once, and the only reasonable solution I find is to shut it down. What would you want? Keep it running for the workers' benefit despite the fact that it's hemorrhaging money? This is obviously important to you... what do you think should be done in such circumstances? I don't understand your hostility.
ghuegel 1 month ago
@ghuegel i think you need to watch the video again. maybe I am wrong, but the way I understood the information provided in the video was that a company would be purchased, then all it's capitol leveraged and drained, and then finally go into bankruptcy screwing everyone. maybe i am missing something. regards.
susodino 1 month ago 2
@susodino I don't buy the narrative of the video; it looks like propaganda. Some business models fail, and the workers lose out; this hurts them. It's unreasonable to assume that the original business was all good. The fact that it could be bought out and dissolved belies the notion that it was a useful enterprise. Failing businesses *should* be allowed to fail. People should have a safety net in a wealthy society, but failing companies shouldn't be bailed out. That's it.
ghuegel 1 month ago
@ghuegel
The businesses weren't failing before they were taken over and gutted. The consistency of their failures by the same people, and the consistency of the profits made by those same people show they aren't failing businesses before their takeovers.
Failing businesses should be allowed to fail, but crooks who buy businesses and make them fail while sucking out the profit for themselves should be arrested and imprisoned just like armed robbers.
BusinessIDBAI 1 month ago
@ghuegel So then, check! Don't base your entire opinion on an assumption you just made that has no basis in reality, that's what Republicans do. That's how stooopid people rationalise their positions.
If you believe these businesses were failing anyway when Romney gutted them to improve his bank balance, RESEARCH it. Just maybe, you'll come to the same conculsion as wildwoodclaire - there wasn't a damn think wrong with the companies or their business models. Look it up for youself.
G0lfYankee 1 month ago
@ghuegel "The fact that it could be bought out and dissolved belies the notion that it was a useful enterprise."
What a very weird concept you have there. In reality, a business model is regarded as a failure by capitalists not when it loses money, but when it doesn't make a huge profit. If it just breaks even or makes a 1% profit, it's not enough to satisfy greed. Capitalists need a 10% profit. So what your ideology considers a 'failure' is very different from what their greed does.
DoctorPlausible 1 month ago 2
@ghuegel hmmm. I agree that failing business should not be bailed out. my impression was that these companies were purchased then raped of it's assets for a few privileged investors. I'm sure it's legal but I don't think it's ethical if I understand all this correctly. Greed is a dangerous behavior in capitalism. Seems like greed is our nature unfortunately. Can you maybe clear up this "propaganda" by inserting omitted facts that would change the message in this video?
susodino 1 month ago
@ghuegel No. I worked in the computer industry for more than 20 years. I endured downturns, layoffs, restructuring, reorganizing and having to do the work of 3 people if I wanted to keep my job. My dad was an engineer in the Aerospace industry and that was much the same way. I understand tough decisions being made whether we like it or not.
meleagrisfelis 1 month ago
@meleagrisfelis The difference is whether the people making the decisions are trying to save the company - and as many jobs as possible (as our company officers did) - or whether they are strip mining the company and selling off the assets in order to make money for themselves. The latter is feral capitalism. My companies officers took paycuts and deferred stock options. Romney and people like him deny themselves nothing.
meleagrisfelis 1 month ago
@meleagrisfelis I agree that Mitt Romney doesn't deny himself anything. I've seen the house he bought in La Jolla, CA... nice place on the beach, even if the place is just for some political position. But if a company is based in an unprofitable scheme, there is no good outcome for the workers... nobody buys new tech for charity. So where could they earn money from?, if it's a failing business model? Good intentions don't make people buy a product... so... ???
ghuegel 1 month ago
I don't like Romney but this was quote mined as well as Nephilim Free on Darwin,
Paetaor 1 month ago
@Paetaor I know the "I like to fire people" is out of context, it' part of the rather bitter joke. Everyone knows it is. And they know it is oddly reminiscent of what the man has made his living doing.
WildwoodClaire1 1 month ago
I worry about you Americans. Your country as a whole is so far to the right I can't see how you can reach a sane position.
All of your republican candidates scare me.
tirua100 1 month ago 24
@tirua100 While I can agree about the Republican candidates (Obama is also to the right & seems to be governing more like a "moderate" republican), polls show the American population as a whole, with the exception of a rather small extreme right-wing minority, (mostly from the Christian right & in the south), are far more to the left than their politicians. This applies to almost all social issues. In fact, the majority, when asked, sound a lot like Canadians.
bobbytookalook 1 month ago
@tirua100 Huntsman isn't scary. But he is wrong.
WildwoodClaire1 1 month ago
@WildwoodClaire1 Do you think Huntsman is more wrong than Obama? I keep thinking I just can't vote O again, especially with this NDAA BS.
GreatBigBore 1 month ago
@WildwoodClaire1 And he won't be nominated because he's not insane or evil.
logicked 1 month ago
@WildwoodClaire1 Correction: Insane enough or evil enough. Your country is so far to the right that I can forget the "enough".
logicked 1 month ago
@WildwoodClaire1 In addition to your Dim Bulb of The Week, I think you should have politicians put up for Douche-bag of The Week on your videos.
BigFatHeretic 1 month ago
I have lots of problems with people inheriting a lot of money because rich lobbyists have twisted the laws around so the rich remain rich and the money doesn't circulate. Inheritance taxes have changed dramatically in favor of the wealthy. Higher taxes, which are a form of salary cap, on high income earners was a smart idea, now abandoned, as it incentivized them into investing in their workers instead of banking the money...
zoxovox 1 month ago
assholes like this guy should be gaoled, not president...
Spinobreaker 1 month ago
Romney = predatory capitalist scum
canu2u 1 month ago
It's ironic the job Mitt Romney is running for could be considered bankrupt, usually that comes AFTER he takes over.
StanMarsh1 1 month ago
I wonder if Mitt Romney could be diagnosed as a sociopath or psychopath? I think his ilk is somewhat overrepresented in the statistics.
NielsC68 1 month ago
@NielsC68 Look up ""I Am Fishead" Are Corporate Leaders Egotistical Psychopaths ?" here on YouTube.
NielsC68 1 month ago
Thanks Claire. Great vid.
dan91709 1 month ago
America ♥'s corporate fascism.
PompousPreacher 1 month ago
I watched his victory speech for the NH primary and I think I found your next dimbulb of the week. It's Romeny for the idiocy that he was spewing in that speech.
lautz73 1 month ago
America should try leaning towards socialism, no kidding. But it's not happening as it's virtually impossible to get a third party going. That and Americans being conditioned to reject the idea like an incompatible organ transplant :)
Holammer 1 month ago
He's a predator? Like Michael Douglas' character in "Wall Street"? Nice.: (
winterstellar 1 month ago
Shit like this makes me so mad. This is the reason we, as a species, is f****d.
Flod81 1 month ago
@Flod81 Yeah, I have no problem with someone making (or inheriting) a lot of money, but when they are screwing people and local economies for their own venal reasons, I see red.
WildwoodClaire1 1 month ago 15