I don't get it. When you tweak the movies people throw a party, but when Lucasfilm does it, such as something as subtle as making Ewoks blink, they throw a fit and burn down a city.
i like the puppet the best, but not the phantom menace one....thats creepy! thank god they replaced that with CG! I like CG yoda too, just in a diff way. the both have pluses and minuses, its nice to see yoda jumping around, but the puppet looks more real somehow
I think Lucas shouldn't just make the mouth look like its actually speaking, I think the Yoda puppet from The Phantom Menace, Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi should be replaced with the CGI Yoda from Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith. That way if you watch them all the films together it looks much better
@BrightFilms117 the puppet from ESB & ROTJ you can tell it's real where the one from AOTC & ROTS looks totally fake. They just can't get CG to look or move realistic enough. Hopefully George would never replace the original puppet.
@adywanuk Well the ESB and ROTJ puppet may look real, I'll agree on that with you; but the TPM puppet is awful and looks nothing like the original puppet or the CGI Yoda, that should be replaced!
@adywanuk Yeah i was never fond of CGI replacements. The lighting doesn't match up, actual actors never look in the right place when speaking to the CGI. It's like watching a game sequence FMV rather than watching an epic masterpiece.
@Simwillb That is the actors fault though. CGI technology is rapidly getting better. I didn't even know they had done Clu entirely in CGI for TRON: Legacy until I was told.
@adywanuk Are you joking? The puppet in the original trilogy is terrible! It's no better than the one in The Phantom Menace. They're all puppets, they look bad. People just hop on the bandwagon of hating on Phantom Menace Yoda just like they hop on the bandwagon of hating the movie itself, because some others do. The CGI in the prequels is incredible. It only needed touching up in a few scenes in AOTC. The puppet is outdated, CGI is the way to go.
@EdwardNygma1 the CGI in the prequels already looks dated. Yoda in AOTC looks fake with the ROTS version only marginally better. CGI even to this day isn't 100% good enough to make convincing living characters. Sure its good enough now for spaceships and things like Transformers etc, but it is still obvious when a creature is CG. It has nothing to do with "hopping on the bandwagon" as you call it, but the fact that they just didn't get Yoda right in the prequels.
@adywanuk Yoda in the prequels looks bloody fantastic, I don't know what you're on about. He looks extremely real. Especially in Revenge Of The Sith and The Phantom Menace Blu-ray. He great in Attack Of The Clones as well, with only a few scenes looking a bit unpolished. They could be touched up in a future home video release. CGI today is really believable. I saw Tron Legacy and the Jeff Bridges CGI face was one of the most incredible things in CGI I'd ever seen done.
@adywanuk And it has everything to do with hopping on the bandwagon. Whether you want to admit it, you have a sentimental attachment to the Original Trilogy and that is why you are trying to say that a puppet is better than a CGI model....
When you say Yoda to someone on the street they will probably think of the CGI model.
@EdwardNygma1 even in the prequels Yoda's mouth does not sync up correctly with the words because, if you check one of the prequel behind the scenes doc, they deliberately didn't give him a natural mouth movement and sync so it would resemble the original puppet.
@adywanuk And yes, in the prequels Yoda's lip synching is not perfect either, and I know it was deliberate, but it's a damn lot better than the puppet, and looks more like it's because he is an odd creature than because he is a faulty puppet or in this case, faulty CGI.
@BrightFilms117 I remember reading somewhere that they had replaced the TPM puppet with the CGI AOTC model way back when AOTC was released (2004 I think) and only now on Blu Ray have they released that version. The one in ROTS is also the same model as the AOTC one and although it is very good, it still isnt as good as the original puppet which shouldnt be replaced.
@BrightFilms117 I don't think it's necessary to replace him. The Yoda puppet from the OT fits well because it gives the impression of an aged Yoda, you know, the movements, everything.
Dude! Excellent Job!!! i am a huge fan of the original tril. and this tweak was so subtle but added so much more realism! only other thing i would fix would be his eyes. his eyes seem puppetlike.. i wonder if you made him blink on one ocassion. If that was you DAMN! good job!
Very nice. I actually like that better than all-digital Yoda. CGI just hasn't evolved enough to make me believe a digital character is there. Combining puppetry with manipulation like this, though, is great and should be done more often IMHO. Great work!
OMG he looks so real! Actually this is the best way to animate non-existing creatues. Make a puppet and tweak it with CGI. Looks much, much better than CGI only.
@SpyengoEen - I was going to leave that exact same comment. Yoda looks far more realistic in the OT. They should've just used a puppet and then CGI him ONLY when they had to.
Huh? And this was tweaked how? Slight color correction perhaps? Other than that pretty much the same great scene. Not sure what you have to do with it or why other fanboy's are raving?
@jayce79 Well all the information is up there ^^. But i have manipulated Yodas mouth and some facial expressions so he looks a little less like a puppet and more like he would actually be speaking those words.
Actually if you can't see any difference then the new tweaks i have added are working perfectly as they don't stand out as not originally being performed by the puppet
im asuming you are making this and are the same guy who made the first revisited? (great work btw everything you did made sense to me for a SE)
i do have to say that nothing really needed to be added to Yoda, im still impressed how they made him work after all these years, he doesnt even look like a puppet to me. that well done.
however i have the '80s version so i can watch it any day. a SE is a SE, so im open for it. i look forward to watch the final version, out this year?
@jayce79 Oooh knocked down :P. I could tell just by looking that there were differences. This guy has done a crapload more than Lucas has for remastering.
This is brilliant. I hated the idea of any change to the Yoda puppet (since I knew Luca$ would do it one day) but this is so subtle, yet powerful and by an unpaid amateur! Just compare this to the crap job ILM did "enhancing" the E.T. puppet for the SE. I'm speechless.
Dear Adywan: you should be very proud of yourself. I watched this video not realizing what your tweaks were; after watching it, I thought to myself: "man, that puppet was really well handled by OZ"...only to discover that's what you tweaked. Like everyone else, I am in complete awe of the perfect balance you manage to achieve between the tweaks and the original footage. Mr. Lucas: fire whoever supervised the remastered DVD versions of the OT, or at least FORCE THEM TO WATCH ADYWAN'S WORK!!
This clip has been out since Jan and only 8 responds!?! Man this is awesome! This is like the perfect blend of leaving the puppet alone but making Yoda more realistic! Tweaking the mouth is all it needs!
Awesome work, Ady! It can be so tempting and so easy to go overboard with the tweaks, but I think it's just about perfect! He just needs a little work with the 'F' and 'V' sounds (where the bottom lip touches the teeth when we talk), but I don't know how hard that would be.
Keep up the good work, Ady! We're rooting for you, mate!
I don't get it. When you tweak the movies people throw a party, but when Lucasfilm does it, such as something as subtle as making Ewoks blink, they throw a fit and burn down a city.
duderme 1 week ago
I think the old Yoda puppet looks better in the OT; it makes him look older than the CGI.
TheBlackRavenclaw 1 week ago
@adywanuk Wow..you do a better job than George Lucas
thekingofRIS 4 months ago
i like the puppet the best, but not the phantom menace one....thats creepy! thank god they replaced that with CG! I like CG yoda too, just in a diff way. the both have pluses and minuses, its nice to see yoda jumping around, but the puppet looks more real somehow
KUCOOEINSTEIN 5 months ago
The quality is amazing
12SeanH 6 months ago
I think Lucas shouldn't just make the mouth look like its actually speaking, I think the Yoda puppet from The Phantom Menace, Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi should be replaced with the CGI Yoda from Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith. That way if you watch them all the films together it looks much better
BrightFilms117 6 months ago
@BrightFilms117 the puppet from ESB & ROTJ you can tell it's real where the one from AOTC & ROTS looks totally fake. They just can't get CG to look or move realistic enough. Hopefully George would never replace the original puppet.
adywanuk 6 months ago
@adywanuk Well the ESB and ROTJ puppet may look real, I'll agree on that with you; but the TPM puppet is awful and looks nothing like the original puppet or the CGI Yoda, that should be replaced!
BrightFilms117 6 months ago
@BrightFilms117 yes, i agree that the TPM puppet is terrible, but that has already been replaced with the CG version for the new releases of TPM
adywanuk 6 months ago
@adywanuk Yeah i was never fond of CGI replacements. The lighting doesn't match up, actual actors never look in the right place when speaking to the CGI. It's like watching a game sequence FMV rather than watching an epic masterpiece.
Simwillb 5 months ago
@Simwillb That is the actors fault though. CGI technology is rapidly getting better. I didn't even know they had done Clu entirely in CGI for TRON: Legacy until I was told.
ValinKrai 5 months ago
@adywanuk Are you joking? The puppet in the original trilogy is terrible! It's no better than the one in The Phantom Menace. They're all puppets, they look bad. People just hop on the bandwagon of hating on Phantom Menace Yoda just like they hop on the bandwagon of hating the movie itself, because some others do. The CGI in the prequels is incredible. It only needed touching up in a few scenes in AOTC. The puppet is outdated, CGI is the way to go.
EdwardNygma1 2 months ago
@EdwardNygma1 the CGI in the prequels already looks dated. Yoda in AOTC looks fake with the ROTS version only marginally better. CGI even to this day isn't 100% good enough to make convincing living characters. Sure its good enough now for spaceships and things like Transformers etc, but it is still obvious when a creature is CG. It has nothing to do with "hopping on the bandwagon" as you call it, but the fact that they just didn't get Yoda right in the prequels.
adywanuk 2 months ago
@adywanuk Yoda in the prequels looks bloody fantastic, I don't know what you're on about. He looks extremely real. Especially in Revenge Of The Sith and The Phantom Menace Blu-ray. He great in Attack Of The Clones as well, with only a few scenes looking a bit unpolished. They could be touched up in a future home video release. CGI today is really believable. I saw Tron Legacy and the Jeff Bridges CGI face was one of the most incredible things in CGI I'd ever seen done.
EdwardNygma1 2 months ago
@adywanuk And it has everything to do with hopping on the bandwagon. Whether you want to admit it, you have a sentimental attachment to the Original Trilogy and that is why you are trying to say that a puppet is better than a CGI model....
When you say Yoda to someone on the street they will probably think of the CGI model.
EdwardNygma1 2 months ago
@adywanuk Another thing that is bad about the puppet is that the mouth does not match the words, even with your edits.
EdwardNygma1 2 months ago
@EdwardNygma1 even in the prequels Yoda's mouth does not sync up correctly with the words because, if you check one of the prequel behind the scenes doc, they deliberately didn't give him a natural mouth movement and sync so it would resemble the original puppet.
adywanuk 2 months ago
@adywanuk And yes, in the prequels Yoda's lip synching is not perfect either, and I know it was deliberate, but it's a damn lot better than the puppet, and looks more like it's because he is an odd creature than because he is a faulty puppet or in this case, faulty CGI.
EdwardNygma1 2 months ago
@BrightFilms117 I remember reading somewhere that they had replaced the TPM puppet with the CGI AOTC model way back when AOTC was released (2004 I think) and only now on Blu Ray have they released that version. The one in ROTS is also the same model as the AOTC one and although it is very good, it still isnt as good as the original puppet which shouldnt be replaced.
Mikez4 5 months ago
@BrightFilms117 I don't think it's necessary to replace him. The Yoda puppet from the OT fits well because it gives the impression of an aged Yoda, you know, the movements, everything.
OdanUrr87 2 months ago
the improvement in the eyes made them feel alive.
solve809 8 months ago
Dude! Excellent Job!!! i am a huge fan of the original tril. and this tweak was so subtle but added so much more realism! only other thing i would fix would be his eyes. his eyes seem puppetlike.. i wonder if you made him blink on one ocassion. If that was you DAMN! good job!
repoman182 11 months ago
now i get it! good work buddy!
Z3R00NE 1 year ago
Thats all we ever wanted Adywanuk, Just the right amount without showing off, thats where Lucas fails every time.
Morrgore 1 year ago
Very nice. I actually like that better than all-digital Yoda. CGI just hasn't evolved enough to make me believe a digital character is there. Combining puppetry with manipulation like this, though, is great and should be done more often IMHO. Great work!
huzdaman100 1 year ago 3
Ben being trained by Yoda isn't special anymore. Everyone was trained by Yoda.
mymatryoshka 1 year ago
That scene looks pretty good. And when Yoda says, "You will be" as he stares at Luke, it always makes me nervous! yaaa-aaaaauuuggghhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!
Raxipyensid 1 year ago
VERY WELL DONE...HUGE STAR WARS FAN HERE AND AND BELIEVE YOU DID GREAT
tvgeek1 1 year ago
OMG he looks so real! Actually this is the best way to animate non-existing creatues. Make a puppet and tweak it with CGI. Looks much, much better than CGI only.
SpyengoEen 1 year ago 4
@SpyengoEen - I was going to leave that exact same comment. Yoda looks far more realistic in the OT. They should've just used a puppet and then CGI him ONLY when they had to.
thx291 1 year ago
@thx291 they did that in Phantom Menance. Yoda in that was entirely a Puppet.
CassDaMan1138 11 months ago
@CassDaMan1138 - Yes but that puppet in TPM was rather phony looking. Too bad the original puppet from ESB was degraded and unusable.
thx291 11 months ago
very nicely done, very subtle, i like it a lot, well done
grinchycrumpet 1 year ago
nicely done!
kujofox 1 year ago
Looks awesome! Maybe add a few subtle quick blinks on Yoda? Hope you get hired by Lucas to release the bluray of these films.
gerchanikerzov 1 year ago
Yoda is so addorable at 1:12 - 1:17 <3
Flash11I19 1 year ago
Huh? And this was tweaked how? Slight color correction perhaps? Other than that pretty much the same great scene. Not sure what you have to do with it or why other fanboy's are raving?
jayce79 1 year ago
@jayce79 Well all the information is up there ^^. But i have manipulated Yodas mouth and some facial expressions so he looks a little less like a puppet and more like he would actually be speaking those words.
Actually if you can't see any difference then the new tweaks i have added are working perfectly as they don't stand out as not originally being performed by the puppet
adywanuk 1 year ago 3
@adywanuk
im asuming you are making this and are the same guy who made the first revisited? (great work btw everything you did made sense to me for a SE)
i do have to say that nothing really needed to be added to Yoda, im still impressed how they made him work after all these years, he doesnt even look like a puppet to me. that well done.
however i have the '80s version so i can watch it any day. a SE is a SE, so im open for it. i look forward to watch the final version, out this year?
henkman00 1 year ago
@adywanuk did you improve the eyes?
solve809 8 months ago
@jayce79 Oooh knocked down :P. I could tell just by looking that there were differences. This guy has done a crapload more than Lucas has for remastering.
ThatSwimGuy 5 months ago
Blimey. Awesome.
DrHock 1 year ago
Great Work! maybe you can tweak the entire "new" trilogy into actually good films ... i would like that! :)
joeylodes 1 year ago
@joeylodes LOL. Not sure if he has that much time
jeditwinz 1 year ago
This is brilliant. I hated the idea of any change to the Yoda puppet (since I knew Luca$ would do it one day) but this is so subtle, yet powerful and by an unpaid amateur! Just compare this to the crap job ILM did "enhancing" the E.T. puppet for the SE. I'm speechless.
JMYodaTHX 2 years ago 4
LucasArts needs to take a poll about whose special edition is better liked. Seriously, you should apply to work for them.
Doctorwhoisforu 2 years ago 7
You mean Lucasfilm, if you're talking about the movies division.
AragornIsStrider 2 years ago
@AragornIsStrider
Oh, right. Thanks.
Doctorwhoisforu 1 year ago
I think it's okay but I still like the original yoda better.
indyclonejr 2 years ago
Good God! That was Perfect!
jediwampaoola 2 years ago 3
Dear Adywan: you should be very proud of yourself. I watched this video not realizing what your tweaks were; after watching it, I thought to myself: "man, that puppet was really well handled by OZ"...only to discover that's what you tweaked. Like everyone else, I am in complete awe of the perfect balance you manage to achieve between the tweaks and the original footage. Mr. Lucas: fire whoever supervised the remastered DVD versions of the OT, or at least FORCE THEM TO WATCH ADYWAN'S WORK!!
dektarium 2 years ago
One question, Adywan. Are you still going to keep the DVD edition change of Ian McDiarmid as the Emperor?
darthkurland 2 years ago
This clip has been out since Jan and only 8 responds!?! Man this is awesome! This is like the perfect blend of leaving the puppet alone but making Yoda more realistic! Tweaking the mouth is all it needs!
GeoMFilms 2 years ago 2
Can this proper remastered version and the others you made be released on DVD?
Snagprophet 2 years ago
ETA on this? I can't wait.
PizzaguylolXD 2 years ago
Subtle but effective enough to show a remarkable difference :)
GrandJediMaster7860 2 years ago
Seriously, this is brilliant! I hope you are doing this work with a high definition copy!
polcrendszer 2 years ago
wow this yoda is almost as good as the one from episode 3! congratulation adywan!!
iRoNiCoSaRCaST 2 years ago
Much better, if you ask me.
cloak211 2 years ago
Looking awesome! I've finally tracked down a decent quality of ANH Revisited...looking forward to watching that and this as well! :)
TheCodefinder 2 years ago
Awesome work, Ady! It can be so tempting and so easy to go overboard with the tweaks, but I think it's just about perfect! He just needs a little work with the 'F' and 'V' sounds (where the bottom lip touches the teeth when we talk), but I don't know how hard that would be.
Keep up the good work, Ady! We're rooting for you, mate!
AmrasFelagund 3 years ago 2
Subtle but brilliant!
jambedavdar 3 years ago 9